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AIF
2nd January 2014, 06:44 PM
My "New" 88 110 Troop carrier which has now just 10000km on is needs it's oil changed.
Can someone who really "knows" tell me what oil to use as the old FMX is no longer made.
Should I use GTX diesel or RX Super?
I would like to change the oil tomorrow before going on a 700km drive.
Cheers.

87County
2nd January 2014, 07:29 PM
RX Super is what most are using

Have you got a filter?

AIF
2nd January 2014, 07:38 PM
No I will have to get one when I get back and change it then.
Would the GTX do for a 1000 km change or don't risk it and use the RX?

87County
2nd January 2014, 07:46 PM
Before you try to buy a filter have a read of posts about #49 - #50 in the attached link - most retailers won't have a reference for these vehicles and will try to sell you what's listed for the civvie model of the same era

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/isuzu-landy-enthusiasts-section/65358-4bd1-part-numbers-reference.html

In reality any 15-40 diesel oil will be ok - it's a very robust engine

Read up on other fluids or ask when you're ready to change them - there's a few different experiences on here

AIF
2nd January 2014, 08:16 PM
Wow, thanks for the link. I will stick with the Land Rover one. Just waiting for the mob in Vic to get back to it.
Cheers.

AIF
2nd January 2014, 09:55 PM
Oil now changed, will do the filter when I get back. Cheers.

87County
2nd January 2014, 10:47 PM
Wow, thanks for the link. I will stick with the Land Rover one. Just waiting for the mob in Vic to get back to it.
Cheers.

There's some doubt that the LR item would be available - the only ones I've seen were fitted by the ADF - that's why the other p/ns are listed.

rar110
3rd January 2014, 09:36 AM
Donaldson publish a list of alternative part numbers by various makers for the perentie size spin on single oil filter (ie not twin filter used in turbo motors). The only variation appears to be the length or diameter (physical size) of the filter. The list is on the below site.
http://www.donaldsontoolbox.com.au/search/partdetail/equivalentparts/P550422/

The below list is also from Donaldson as alternative to P550422. Although I've never heard of most makers.
- A E C WHITLOCK: MO521 - ALCO: SP924 - AMC: MO516 - ASAHI: MO521 - BALDWIN: B7027, B7085, B7144 - BIG A: 91411, 92725 - COOPERS: LSF5147 - CROSLAND: 2086 - FLEETGUARD: LF3642 - FLEETRITE: LFR83642 - FRAM: PH4885, PH5503, PH8026 - GREYFRIARS: 993S, 997S - HASTINGS: LF464, LF488 - HITACHI: 4183753, 4183853, 4439863, L4183853 - HYSTER: 1368795 - INTRUPA: 83496 - ISUZU: 8941609641, 8943212190, 8943212191, 8944160690, 89444675011 - JCB: 8943212190, 8944160690, KNH0324 - KOBELCO: 2451V3091 - KOMATSU: TK130523802 - KUBOTA: 8941609641 - LINK BELT: KNH0324 - MASSEY FERGUSON: 130523802, 3728819M1, 8943212191 - MAZDA: SE2623802 - NIPPON: T8208 - P.B.R.: BC1140 - PERKINS: 130523802 - PMC: PE749 - PUROLATOR: L44735, L45242 - RYCO: Z435 - SAKURA: C8027 - SUMITOMO JUKI: KNH0324 - SURE FILTER: SFO3853 - SYSTEMS MATERIAL HANDLING: CT32B4000100 - UFI: 2323600 - VMC: LF550422 - WAKO: LO722K - WIX: 551725, 59249 - WOODGATE: 993S, WGL3642 - YALE: 901024829, 901095857

isuzurover
3rd January 2014, 11:37 AM
... FLEETGUARD: LF3642 ...

You should be able to buy this one from Truckline.

cummo
3rd January 2014, 12:27 PM
I had hells own trouble buying my first replacement oil filter for my Perentie.
After a lot of hunting got hold of a genuine Isuzu filter - Part No. 8-94321219-1.
I now run with FLeetguard filter Part No. LF3642; a bit cheaper and I can get them readily from Cummins Filtration.

With regard to engine oil I run Nulon High Protection Diesel Oil 15W-40. I'm running the same oil in the LT95 with the addition of Nulon G70 gear additive.

A little off topic but with regards the spin-on fuel filter I run with another FLeetguard filter - Part No. FF5114.

Good luck with your maintenance!

Dave

spudboy
9th January 2014, 10:03 PM
Cummo - tell me about the G70 Nulon stuff. Did it reduce the gearbox rattle at all?

I've just gone from Castrol VMX-80, which made the gearbox rattle a lot worse, back to plain old engine oil (Super RX) which is quieter than the VMX-80.

Thanks
David

87County
10th January 2014, 08:30 AM
Cummo - tell me about the G70 Nulon stuff. Did it reduce the gearbox rattle at all?

I've just gone from Castrol FMX-80, which made the gearbox rattle a lot worse, back to plain old engine oil (Super RX) which is quieter than the FMX-80.

Thanks
David

The Nulon is probably fine but I'll just add for further info that we've been using Castrol Syntrans75/85 in LT95 and LT85 and R380 boxes - expensive but long life, quiet running and makes gear changes very smoooth

cummo
10th January 2014, 01:10 PM
Spudboy,

I've used Nulon G70 in my Series 1 Landie gearbox, transfer case and diffs for the thirty-odd years I've had it on the initial advice of the mechanic who did some minor work on the gearbox way back then. I've since used it in the gearboxes and diffs of all my cars.

G70 is apparently a mix of PTFE (Teflon) with other extreme pressure and anti corrosion compounds. Nulon has a blurb on it on their website describing its formulation and how it works. My gut feeling is yes it works, definitely easing gear changes, but having run it in my vehicles from their first/benchmark oil changes it's hard to compare any changes definitively. How it's described to work makes sense so I've stuck with it. An internet search on reviews for G70 in various vehicle forums generally seem positive also. As far as additives go I think it's reasonably priced.

When I first got my Perentie I contacted the technical department at Nulon to check the suitability of the Nulon diesel engine oil for the LT95, and they advised G70 would be OK in this unit. The operation of the LT95 in my Perentie seems good; it's a little stiff to go into first gear but with gentle pressure it slips in when it's ready :) - all other shifts up and down are fine. No racing gear changes in a Perentie though!

Cheers

Dave

LandroverScott
14th January 2014, 06:15 PM
The Nulon is probably fine but I'll just add for further info that we've been using Castrol Syntrans75/85 in LT95 and LT85 and R380 boxes - expensive but long life, quiet running and makes gear changes very smoooth

Hi what do you use in your transfer case?

thanks
Scott

87County
14th January 2014, 07:35 PM
Hi what do you use in your transfer case?

thanks
Scott


For the Perentie LT95 t/c we use the same (Syntrans 75/85),

Engine oil is OK

NB the LT 230 (not in the Perentie) uses diff oil

LandroverScott
14th January 2014, 07:39 PM
For the Perentie LT95 t/c we use the same (Syntrans 75/85),

Engine oil is OK

NB the LT 230 (not in the Perentie) uses diff oil

Hi Thanks,

Yeah Perentie LT95, so I will use Syntrans 75/85 in gear box and transfer case

many thanks
Scott

AIF
18th January 2014, 01:13 AM
Spudboy,

I've used Nulon G70 in my Series 1 Landie gearbox, transfer case and diffs for the thirty-odd years I've had it on the initial advice of the mechanic who did some minor work on the gearbox way back then. I've since used it in the gearboxes and diffs of all my cars.

G70 is apparently a mix of PTFE (Teflon) with other extreme pressure and anti corrosion compounds. Nulon has a blurb on it on their website describing its formulation and how it works. My gut feeling is yes it works, definitely easing gear changes, but having run it in my vehicles from their first/benchmark oil changes it's hard to compare any changes definitively. How it's described to work makes sense so I've stuck with it. An internet search on reviews for G70 in various vehicle forums generally seem positive also. As far as additives go I think it's reasonably priced.

When I first got my Perentie I contacted the technical department at Nulon to check the suitability of the Nulon diesel engine oil for the LT95, and they advised G70 would be OK in this unit. The operation of the LT95 in my Perentie seems good; it's a little stiff to go into first gear but with gentle pressure it slips in when it's ready :) - all other shifts up and down are fine. No racing gear changes in a Perentie though!

Cheers

Dave

Going into first sometimes is the same with mine. Needs a shuffle and re-try.