Buying from Army

[adamv8]

Can anobody give me some info how does australian ex-army market works ? I am interested to buy some staff from those guys, but have completely no idea how, where and so on...
adam

[fernockulated]

Originally posted by adamv8
Can anobody give me some info how does australian ex-army market works ? I am interested to buy some staff from those guys, but have completely no idea how, where and so on...
adam

:roll: would suggest checking your spelling before posting as that could be taken very differently to how it was originally posted, eg , you could end up with a couple of used generals or something similar, however other than gov. auctions not sure how you would go about it!

[adamv8]

Thank you and sorry for my spelling mistake. I would like to know, if there are any possibility to buy spare parts, engines, accesories and so on... from Army.
adam

[fernockulated]

style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif please dont think i was being sarcastic or anything like that , was just a funny type-o that i couldnt resist! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif 8)

[Cul]

From time to time Auctions come up through Pickles Auctions in major southern cities that have a lot of fantastic gear. Keep an eye on their website for upcoming auction dates.

Apart from that, you'll find that there are certain landrover spares places that attend these auctions and purchase gear for their rental landrovers used on Fraser Island or other, and a lot of the times they have parts left over for sale.
Pretty much all the gear I have bought has originated from these parts places, and also there are some disposal stores around that I have found a wealth of ex-army landrover parts.

Generally as far as I have been told, the army uses their existing gear until its falling to pieces before they exchange it with the new article from Q store. A fine example is the genuine Army Landrover canvas I bought. When they are produced they have an expiry date printed on the packet. The expiry to my knowledge is the water proofing and some times IR reflective coatings. When the inspectors come through... they look at the expiry and I guess they are shipped out to auctions seeing they are outdated.

Most of the other REMLR guys will give you some hints on finding specific things, so don't ever hesitate to ask questions. Always happy to help.

Cheers,
Cul

[Cul]

http://www.pickles.com.au/auctiontt.html

Clicking on "Defence Surplus" is a good start style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[adamv8]

Thanks Cul ! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
adam

[falci]

hi everyone
ive been looking at the pickles website with the intention of purchasing a 6x6 perentie
im new to this so i may bore you with some stupid questions
some of these vehicles have very little km for there age, i know the auction has a warning that this is not to be taken as actual km traveled
so my question is what does one use to determine approx km traveled
before i part with apprx $20k.i would like to do some elimination checks for peace of mind.
any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated
cheers

[grey_ghost]

Hi,

The speedos in these vehicles are often changed - hence why you can't rely on them. I think that some (if not all) vehicles also come with an hours meter - so you can see how many hours the vehicle has run for, but again - these also can be changed.

Some of the Perenties come with a full service log book - if you can find one with a log book, that will tell you everything that you need to know.

Jump on the REMLR web-site (a web-site built specifically for ex-military Land Rovers) - from memory there is a guy on there who sells a "Perentie Buying Guide". It explains all of the different variants, what to look for, common problems, etc. I bought this guide when I bought my FFR 4x4.

I have heard rumours that there are less than 500 Perenties left to be sold, but - they are only rumours.

From memory - KLR (Sydney based company) - will inspect a vehicle for you, and write up a report. They are ex-military mechanics and know the vehicles quite well.

Be careful - there are some very poor vehicles being sold at auction (buyer beware). There are also some very good vehicles going at auction - you really need to inspect in person, or pay somebody to inspect the vehicle that knows what to look for.

To drive a 6x6 you will need a (I think) heavy rigid driving license, as the 6x6's are considered a truck due to their weight/payload.

Best of luck - I love my Perentie, but they aren't for everyone.

Cheers,
GG

[falci]

Hi,

The speedos in these vehicles are often changed - hence why you can't rely on them. I think that some (if not all) vehicles also come with an hours meter - so you can see how many hours the vehicle has run for, but again - these also can be changed.

Some of the Perenties come with a full service log book - if you can find one with a log book, that will tell you everything that you need to know.

Jump on the REMLR web-site (a web-site built specifically for ex-military Land Rovers) - from memory there is a guy on there who sells a "Perentie Buying Guide". It explains all of the different variants, what to look for, common problems, etc. I bought this guide when I bought my FFR 4x4.

I have heard rumours that there are less than 500 Perenties left to be sold, but - they are only rumours.

From memory - KLR (Sydney based company) - will inspect a vehicle for you, and write up a report. They are ex-military mechanics and know the vehicles quite well.

Be careful - there are some very poor vehicles being sold at auction (buyer beware). There are also some very good vehicles going at auction - you really need to inspect in person, or pay somebody to inspect the vehicle that knows what to look for.

To drive a 6x6 you will need a (I think) heavy rigid driving license, as the 6x6's are considered a truck due to their weight/payload.

Best of luck - I love my Perentie, but they aren't for everyone.

Cheers,
GG
thanks grey_ghost
there are some comming up for auction next month at thuroonga
but because of covit no inspections are alowed
im looking for what they call the electronic test station or module
which i intend to convert to a slideon camper.
im sure this may have been done by some members of the club
their input is Paramount to eliminate costly mistakes.
i believe that they are not suited for highway driving so i believe some modification will need to be made to make it more pleasant on long journeys
i appreciate your input and will continue to search
cheers

[Tins]

To drive a 6x6 you will need a (I think) heavy rigid driving license, as the 6x6's are considered a truck due to their weight/payload.


GG

Medium rigid should be enough. GVM is 5.6, so not a car licence.

[W&KO]

Isn’t LR up-to 8T

What the GVM of a 6B

Although if you’re going to the trouble of getting LR you’d be mad not to consider MR, probably same amount of effort.

[Bearman]

LR is all you need in Qld. 5600kg GVM.

[Tins]

LR? Heck, there was no such thing back in my day.. Car, MR, HR, HA was what it was..

Tipping my MC will be ok though[bigsmile1]

[Phil B]

thanks grey_ghost
there are some comming up for auction next month at thuroonga
but because of covit no inspections are alowed
im looking for what they call the electronic test station or module
which i intend to convert to a slideon camper.
im sure this may have been done by some members of the club
their input is Paramount to eliminate costly mistakes.
i believe that they are not suited for highway driving so i believe some modification will need to be made to make it more pleasant on long journeys
i appreciate your input and will continue to search
cheers

Not sure why they are unsuitable for highway travel.
Yes they are noisy ( insulation fixes that), slow ( more modern turbo + inter cooler fixes that) and thirsty ( they use 20-25 l/100km at 90kph) if your right foot is heavy.
However they are very capable off road and the drive train is Bullet proof if maintained correctly
As others have said not every bodies cup of tea but I love mine.

[Tins]

LR is all you need in Qld. 5600kg GVM.

It's the same here. I simply forgot the existence of LR, as it always seemed pointless to me.

[falci]

Not sure why they are unsuitable for highway travel.
Yes they are noisy ( insulation fixes that), slow ( more modern turbo + inter cooler fixes that) and thirsty ( they use 20-25 l/100km at 90kph) if your right foot is heavy.
However they are very capable off road and the drive train is Bullet proof if maintained correctly
As others have said not every bodies cup of tea but I love mine.

would a 5 speed make much difference

[Phil B]

would a 5 speed make much difference

I don’t believe the cost involved is worth the effort.
There are boxes that will withstand the 4bd1 (not sure on details) but nothing AFAIAA that bolts straight up. Expensive to do I believe.
I’m sure others (you out there Brian?) will chip in.

[NLR]

Hi GG,

Noticed you have an FFR too. I am struggling to identify the correct part number for the top alternator belt on my FFR, it just snapped and of course right where the part number was printed. Also wanting to confirm the layout of where it travels, Is it Alternator, fan and crankshaft?

Cheers

Nic


Hi,

The speedos in these vehicles are often changed - hence why you can't rely on them. I think that some (if not all) vehicles also come with an hours meter - so you can see how many hours the vehicle has run for, but again - these also can be changed.

Some of the Perenties come with a full service log book - if you can find one with a log book, that will tell you everything that you need to know.

Jump on the REMLR web-site (a web-site built specifically for ex-military Land Rovers) - from memory there is a guy on there who sells a "Perentie Buying Guide". It explains all of the different variants, what to look for, common problems, etc. I bought this guide when I bought my FFR 4x4.

I have heard rumours that there are less than 500 Perenties left to be sold, but - they are only rumours.

From memory - KLR (Sydney based company) - will inspect a vehicle for you, and write up a report. They are ex-military mechanics and know the vehicles quite well.

Be careful - there are some very poor vehicles being sold at auction (buyer beware). There are also some very good vehicles going at auction - you really need to inspect in person, or pay somebody to inspect the vehicle that knows what to look for.

To drive a 6x6 you will need a (I think) heavy rigid driving license, as the 6x6's are considered a truck due to their weight/payload.

Best of luck - I love my Perentie, but they aren't for everyone.

Cheers,
GG

[grey_ghost]

Hi GG,

Noticed you have an FFR too. I am struggling to identify the correct part number for the top alternator belt on my FFR, it just snapped and of course right where the part number was printed. Also wanting to confirm the layout of where it travels, Is it Alternator, fan and crankshaft?

Cheers

Nic

Hi Nic,

Sorry for the late reply - I've only just noticed this question. Thanks to another member on here (Mick88) - the part numbers are:

8941469530 or 1136713440 - for the standard fan belt
AYG2751 - for the 24v alternator (if your FFR has one fitted).. [Gates XL7420 or Dayco 10A1080 also fit]

I can't remember the path though.

Cheers,
GG