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Dockstrada
5th January 2014, 11:55 AM
Hi All after having my 4.4 Vogue for a while I'm going to pass it on to the wife to do the shopping in, I'm thinking of trading into a 2011 or 12 TDV8 Vogue L322, any reason why I shouldn't and is there any difference between the 2 years models ? . I'm looking for one with some factory warranty .
I have read many things about them lots of good but some bad e.g.; gearbox , off road ability as this will be important being that I'm going to let the SVX Defender go . your comments good and bad will be appreciated

harlie
5th January 2014, 12:35 PM
only problem off road is tyres

CSBrisie
6th January 2014, 02:46 PM
send me an PM and your Mb and I will give you my comments in detail - but briefly - having owned a June 2012 built Vogue TDV8 Luxury for 6 months and just spent a week on the beach at North Stradbroke island I can say its a sensational car; Ofcourse if I hear another ****ing LC200 driver tell me I …"won't get far on 20's….(on the beach) " I will SCREAM.

We had a ball….ran "the 20's" (!) at 18psi with zero issues getting on and off the various beaches / into the camping spots off Main Beach etc.

We have the rear e-diff fitted to ours; an ARB fridge in the rear, running off a dual battery system (mounted in the rear battery space in the floor right hand side)®; Redarc isolator; an Anderson plug out back (which we use for camper trailer / van (hire) and to run the ARB air compressor. We just fitted a UHF in the rear fuse box area too. We fill fit Cooper LTZ tyres soonish as we plan to do outback trips in the future (Birdsville, Oodndatta Tracks etc) towing Bushtracker.

In the meantime - Beautiful, comfortable, sensational 4WD (off road)

Beautiful, sensational, comfortable 4WD (on road) … (!)

However, as I cleaned out half a ton of sand I did wonder if an old Defender might be more sensible at times!!!!

cheers

Chris

GregMilner
7th January 2014, 12:00 PM
Chris, those Cooper LTZ tyres - I presume you're getting those in 20 inch size? As you know I'm doing a trip to the Kimberley in June, I was going to risk it on the standard Continentals but the more I think about it - Gibb River Rd etc - the more nervous I get.
I'm tempted to get a set of LTZs as well, what did you pay for yours and where did you get them?

CSBrisie
7th January 2014, 11:10 PM
Hi Greg, yeah I agree I don't think the Contis are up to it; I haven't bought the LTZ's yet - still pricing them like you. My main worry on the outback tracks is cracking a rim, but I think it will come down to taking it a little easier than if you were running say 18's, and keeping pressures a little higher than you would on that size or smaller rims, to try and make up for the low profile factor.

Off topic - I'm enjoying sunny Perth this week - noting 41c forecast for Saturday!!! :eek::(

GregMilner
8th January 2014, 09:03 AM
Yeah, it's going to be a stinker for days, so we're heading to Rottnest on Saturday. If you get a chance and feel like a break from work give me a call 0416 139520 my office/warehouse/toyshop is in Osborne Park.

Dockstrada
10th January 2014, 07:35 PM
Ok so today I left a deposit on a Santorini Black metallic 2012 TDV8 Vague Luxury with 55000km, Jet leather and grand black lacquer interior trim, sight un seen , Dealer tells me that its in as new condition, he assures me that its is immaculate or he'll refund my deposit and airfare .

It wasn't my first choice in colours but the only other one out there was a Bronze one. I'm so excited but I'll be going away next week and won't be able to pick it up until the 24th of this month , that's going to be painful.

I bought the car from Victoria , My first trip will be to fly down and make sure it is as expected to collect it , then I'll cruise it back to Sydney via some dirt and twisty roads .


Does anyone know if my 2003 L322 wheel will fit on this one ? they are 19" .

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/01/1124.jpg

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Homestar
11th January 2014, 08:47 AM
Nice! Love the Drug Dealer look...:D. Seriously though, that looks awesome.:). If you need a lift from the airport let me know, or even if you don't mind me turning up to have a look at it before your trip home.:)

Dockstrada
11th January 2014, 09:40 AM
Nice! Love the Drug Dealer look...:D. Seriously though, that looks awesome.:). If you need a lift from the airport let me know, or even if you don't mind me turning up to have a look at it before your trip home.:)


Thanks for the offer that's really nice of you , Dealer has offered to Pick me up, your quite welcome too come and have a look at it .I don't know exactly when I'm going to pick it up but it'll let it be known .


I really love it too, Black isn't my preferred colour for a Range Rover for many reasons 1st being the heat it generates 2nd the ability to keep it clean 3rd scratches and dents .


But I'm a sucker for black, I have a black Defender a black Land Cruiser which for sale now a black Bike and a black work ute, you think I would learn after that .

Homestar
11th January 2014, 11:54 AM
At least you know what you're in for.:D

Let me know what time you are going to be there, and if I'm in the area, I'll drop in and say hi.:)

harlie
11th January 2014, 04:04 PM
Very nice!



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Does anyone know if my 2003 L322 wheel will fit on this one ? they are 19" .

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yes they should, unless the brakes have grown again, HOWEVER the wheel nuts are different, you need 2003 wheel nuts with the 2003 wheels.

Dockstrada
26th January 2014, 08:23 AM
I know I have asked this before but the time is near to make a decision.

Next week I pick up a 2012 RR . My last thought was to run 3 cars, 2003 RR Vogue 4.4 petrol for the wife around town , My 2009 SVX Defender to do the off road trips and camping with the kids and the 2012 RR for a daily commuter for me .

Here's the problem , after taking the 03 RR off road again the other day I'm pretty happy with its capability as a standard unit I am assuming the 2012 is as capable if not more than the 03 RR ,
I don't really get into hard core 4x4 , I'm more like an explorer/ adventurer . So I'm now considering using the 2012 RR as my off road , camping and commuting truck as I really can't see me using the Defender more than 5 times a year for its intended purpose , So I would sell the Defender .

Though the Defender is such a great truck, it has that special thing about it....It's hard to explain, you just need to drive one for a week to experience it , it impresses me every time I drive it on and off road . I must say the smile on my face when driving the Defender far exceeds the smile when I'm driving the RR .

I know the 2012 is a pricy truck for an off road unit yet so was the SVX, the rear load space is much less then that in the Defender , I'm also mindful that any damage on the RR could be costly and the first dent or scratch is going to be a heartbreaker, is anyone using their late RR as per my intended purpose ? and how does the RR paint work hold up to tree branches and scuffs ? Judging from experience on the Defender it's pretty tough paint and buffs out well . Is load capacity sufficient for a 3 day camping trip for 4 ?

CSBrisie
26th January 2014, 12:10 PM
Yes, we are. Loadspace is fine for the ARB 45 litre fridge and odds and ends - ARB air compressor, recovery gear, webber Bq) etc with all soft stuff on the roof in a large Rhino Bag in same / roof basket; will upgrade to pioneer platform rack soon so I can get spare wheel and heaps of gear (including 40l fuel if necessary) up top for longer expeditions.

We will (and have started to) use it for its intended purpose - but won't be taking it anywhere its likely to get significant panel damage. Its just not worth it despite the fact I'm sure the car is capable (we even got one with the rear e-diff). We will use it for more of the Island (Moreton, Straddie, Fraser) short holidays and the "Outback Tracks" (Oodndatta, Plenty Highway, Birdsville, Red Centre) style trips (towing an off road caravan with kids) and associated 4wd'ing (e.g. I'd do Big Red outside Birdsville etc) but would I do the whole Simpson Desert crossing?? maybe not……… - although with GOE taking a group of D3/4's and RRS this year gee its tempting!!!!).

Having done the VHC in a brand new D4 in 2010 with no damage I'd tackle that without too much worry too.

So, would I take the RRV everywhere I'd take a Defender? No. Panel damage (absence of rock sliders) puts me off. Will each trip be a thousand time more comfortable for all in the Vogue, esp the long travel days- yep.

Having said all that - I LOVE the Defender SVX for what it was designed to do and that model is probably as good as they get for comfort…but its not even remotely in the league of the RRV 2012.… as you are about to discover!

In the end, everyone is different, (thank goodness!) and if I could afford an SVX (too) for just off road trips….hmmmmmmmmmm. maybe!!… Good luck!!!!!

Dockstrada
3rd February 2014, 07:04 PM
So I've picked up my 2012 Range Rover , what a sensational motor car the TDV8 is astonishing .

Picked her up at 9:30 am from Port Melbourne , headed out of town driving to Wodonga taking the Murray Valley Hwy then the Alpine way through Khancoban to Perisher, what a great road, I cant wait to get back through there on my bike for the Australian Super bikes at the end of the month.
After arriving in Perisher Valley at 4pm for a BBQ a few beers and night sleep....a total of aprox 680Km travelled, I was fresh as a daisy. The next morning I was up early and home in Sydney by 12pm .

I must say the ride from my 03 is much more plush but the 12 has much better handling in the twisty stuff .

It averaged bang on 8L/100 for the trip now that great , the 03 with its 4.4 petrol engine on the same trip is up around 13l/100 .which is still really good for such a big lump of metal .

Il be keeping the keys to this one tight to my chest , I think the wife has some car park envy . Yet the 03 is still a sensational car and ill still be taking her out when possible .

On another note one thing I did notice from the exhaust is lots of smoke black(normal) but some white indicating a lack of fuel from my experience has anyone had this ? mind you my foot was well buried deep in the carpet :-)

Another thing I noticed, the seat adjustment has less features than my 03 and the information in less .


Here she is .


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Homestar
3rd February 2014, 08:09 PM
Very nice. Sorry I couldn't meet you work got in the way...:mad:

CSBrisie
4th February 2014, 11:18 AM
Some issue with exhaust on mine - when the right boot hits the floor only though :p

nat_89
4th February 2014, 02:41 PM
So I've picked up my 2012 Range Rover , what a sensational motor car the TDV8 is astonishing .

Picked her up at 9:30 am from Port Melbourne , headed out of town driving to Wodonga taking the Murray Valley Hwy then the Alpine way through Khancoban to Perisher, what a great road, I cant wait to get back through there on my bike for the Australian Super bikes at the end of the month.
After arriving in Perisher Valley at 4pm for a BBQ a few beers and night sleep....a total of aprox 680Km travelled, I was fresh as a daisy. The next morning I was up early and home in Sydney by 12pm .

I must say the ride from my 03 is much more plush but the 12 has much better handling in the twisty stuff .

It averaged bang on 8L/100 for the trip now that great , the 03 with its 4.4 petrol engine on the same trip is up around 13l/100 .which is still really good for such a big lump of metal .

Il be keeping the keys to this one tight to my chest , I think the wife has some car park envy . Yet the 03 is still a sensational car and ill still be taking her out when possible .

On another note one thing I did notice from the exhaust is lots of smoke black(normal) but some white indicating a lack of air from my experience has anyone had this ? mind you my foot was well buried deep in the carpet :-)

Another thing I noticed, the seat adjustment has less features than my 03 and the information in less .


Here she is .


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Congrats on your new purchase lucky you getting a vogue they are amazing and i would love one so much!! I have just purchased a new Disco 4 HSE and have no complaints its beautiful love it!! But i would like a Vogue maybe in 2 years trade it in for a good second hand L405 that would be nice..

Anyway congrats on the purchase and as for the colour they do look good i was chasing a white one but just couldn't find one and they were still more than i wanted to spend, but I'm sure you'll get so much enjoyment out of it!!