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Dapper
9th January 2014, 05:01 PM
Hi I can find plenty of postings about auxiliary fuel tanks but nothing about water tanks? Any recommendations? I am kitting out an 07 HSE Diesel for camping, and have a Dolium windcheatah roofrack + rear wheel carrier. Water is the next challenge.....
TDV6
9th January 2014, 07:03 PM
Either TJM or ARB had a collapsible bladder suitable for water which could fit behind the front seats.
Ryall
Ean Austral
9th January 2014, 08:04 PM
Hi I can find plenty of postings about auxiliary fuel tanks but nothing about water tanks? Any recommendations? I am kitting out an 07 HSE Diesel for camping, and have a Dolium windcheatah roofrack + rear wheel carrier. Water is the next challenge.....
Check out Dolium for their range of poly water tanks, lotsa people get the ones that fit against the cargo barrier.
Cheers Ean
oldsalt
9th January 2014, 08:56 PM
Yep - Dolium is the way to go...
http://files.myopera.com/veedub5/albums/9546232/IMG_1909.JPG
Graeme
10th January 2014, 06:33 AM
That is neat!
jon3950
10th January 2014, 11:17 AM
That is a neat tank and I would still like to have one. However I tried one in my D3 a few years ago and couldn't live with the noise of the water sloshing around. Have you done anything to reduce this, or do you just live with it?
I ended up using a bladder which sits between the rear seat and cargo barrier.
Cheers,
Jon
oldsalt
10th January 2014, 12:26 PM
Two bags of this stopped the sloshing... Baffle Foam | Liquid Containment Bladders & Liners ? Fuel, Water, Petrol, Diesel, Water Storage (http://liquidcontainment.com.au/category/29/Baffle-Foam)
cheers
jon3950
10th January 2014, 01:00 PM
Two bags of this stopped the sloshing... Baffle Foam | Liquid Containment Bladders & Liners ? Fuel, Water, Petrol, Diesel, Water Storage (http://liquidcontainment.com.au/category/29/Baffle-Foam)
cheers
Perfect, just what I had in mind. No problems with taste or bacteria?
Cheers,
Jon
Graeme
10th January 2014, 01:22 PM
couldn't live with the noise of the water sloshing around.I don't notice the sloshing in my 10L container when its over the back but certainly do when it occasionally gets moved to behind the front passenger seat.
oldsalt
10th January 2014, 06:46 PM
Perfect, just what I had in mind. No problems with taste or bacteria?
Cheers,
Jon
Nope to both counts - I use Milton's baby bottle cleaner every now and then - mix up the appropriate strength and leave it in a full tank for a day and then empty it out - if it's good enough for babies bottles it's good enough for me :D Our Products | Milton (http://www.miltonbaby.com.au/our-products/antibacterial-solution-1l/1175/)
cheers
Dapper
11th January 2014, 09:49 AM
New to the Forum and haven't worked out how to say "thanks" yet, but thanks for the comments and advice. Wondered if there was any options for water tanks in the spare wheel well, just to save space inside?
phl
11th January 2014, 09:55 PM
Two bags of this stopped the sloshing... Baffle Foam | Liquid Containment Bladders & Liners ? Fuel, Water, Petrol, Diesel, Water Storage (http://liquidcontainment.com.au/category/29/Baffle-Foam)
cheers
Do you just put the whole lot into the tank and that's it?
HarryO
16th January 2014, 04:12 PM
I have always been worried about having these internal tanks come loose and bounce around the car in an accident. It might only have a dead weight about 90 kg when full of water but the forces exerted in an accident are massive. If my army days of running around like a mad man with half full jerry cans are anything to go by - having it half full makes it even more unstable.
If I were to have one I would use bigger straps and take a good look at how the straps are connected onto the vehicle – that could be your weakest point.
Beerdead
16th January 2014, 07:59 PM
Is there an option for a tank in the third row seat well?
de7158
16th January 2014, 08:37 PM
This is one from Gough and is a underbody 70L, 1080x810x115 and would be the best fit that I've been able to find so far.
I think it's a smidgen deeper than the recess with the rear seats out.
Tie down straps over the tank with a false floor over. A set of custom rear drawers/kitchen from Drifta to finish it off. :)
I'am thinking of going down this path.
Peter
oldsalt
17th January 2014, 09:03 AM
I have always been worried about having these internal tanks come loose and bounce around the car in an accident. It might only have a dead weight about 90 kg when full of water but the forces exerted in an accident are massive. If my army days of running around like a mad man with half full jerry cans are anything to go by - having it half full makes it even more unstable.
If I were to have one I would use bigger straps and take a good look at how the straps are connected onto the vehicle – that could be your weakest point.
Good point Harry - I have heavy duty straps around mine which are of course attached to the cargo barrier and the tank sits snugly between the barrier and the rear seats - so I would say it's unlikely to come loose in an accident...but it pays to be careful of course - so I try not to "run around like a mad man" with a heavily loaded vehicle :D
cheers
eddomak
17th January 2014, 09:57 AM
New to the Forum and haven't worked out how to say "thanks" yet, but thanks for the comments and advice. Wondered if there was any options for water tanks in the spare wheel well, just to save space inside?
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Steve Td5 130
17th January 2014, 01:25 PM
Hi All
My father had a stainless steel water tank made for his Disco 3
Which fits in the floor in the cargo area ( removed the dicky seats )
Also has a aluminium slide out storage system.
Cheers
Steve
Dapper
17th January 2014, 11:33 PM
This is the way I'd like to go. Thanks for sharing that. I'm fiddling with ideas to make it a quick fit and remove so it's not permanently fitted. Perhaps over centre latches onto the tie downs or similar
Steve Td5 130
19th January 2014, 10:26 AM
The whole lot is removable takes about 30 - 40mins to remove it.
Cheers
Steve
IvanR
19th January 2014, 03:47 PM
10 litre containers we find to be very convenient when comes to filling and using. ie the cook has water at hand and I dont have to fetch it.
Water bladders have a bad habit of getting holes in then. All the bladders that have been used by people on our trips have.
IvanR
phl
8th March 2014, 06:31 PM
Thanks to OldSalt; the foam baffles works a treat.
As to the FlexiTank, they deem any modification to their system, including the eyelets on the cover, to have voided the warranty, as it will put undue pressure on the bladder when filled.
But if the tank is not properly restraint, the rating on the cargo barrier is voided, so making you liable to any injury that may be preventable by the barrier (which is why I fitted mine). It was also pointed out any modifications to the barrier, in the way it is mounted or the position it is mounted, could potentially also make you liable for any injury, as the barrier was rated in its unmodified form and mounting position.
Something for unwary punters to think about.
At least the water damage is covered by my insurance.
[Edit: Comments from Gavin, FlexiTank]
I actually contacted Gavin for his comments as well; his reply as follows:
Im sorry, but the information below is factually incorrect.
We have checked our tank, in conjunction with ARB and SAI global, and we operate well within the cargo barrier standard AS4034. The stipulation is that the barrier must not carry a load greater than 60 kg. As we are selling a 50 litre bladder, as long it is installed correctly in that the base is sitting on the floor when it is empty, and therefore when it is full, the barrier is then simply suspending the bladder vertically, and the load is on the floor of the area.
In any event, we are also under the 60kg weight limit rating, so even without this feature, we would not be in contradiction of the standard.
As a manufacturer of a range of products we take every standard applicable to our products very very seriously.
So take your own legal advice on this issue.
AGRO
9th March 2014, 05:34 PM
Hi,
For the big trip last year I removed the centre second row seat.
A 60 litre rectangular tank sat on the floor. 10mm Eye bolts temporarily replace the 10mm seat bolts. The tank is strapped in using webbing belts.
Heavy weight low and central and well restained. Access is via the flexible hose and gate valve at the tank. I decant to a 10litre container as needed.
I also use 10liter water containers on short weekend trips. They are a lot easier to handle for old blokes and the water is in separate containers. One behind each front seat on the floor.
I didn't have the anti slosh foam in the 60l tank but would in the future.
jon3950
30th July 2014, 06:40 PM
So after I found a leak in my bladder, I decided to buy a new Boab water tank for this trip. It sits behind the cargo barrier and front of my drawers:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1492.jpg
I've put a couple of bags of foam baffling in it, thanks to Oldsalt, and am very happy with the setup.
One problem I have found with the foam though, is it breaks up when travelling on rough roads and I end up with little pieces of foam in the water (which are probably carcinogenic. :()
Anyone having this problem? Any thoughts on a solution?
Cheers,
Jon
oldsalt
30th July 2014, 10:20 PM
Sorry to hear about the foam breaking up - I'll keep an eye on mine, sadly of late all my miles seem to be on the highway... :(
cheers
pwillo
31st July 2014, 09:16 PM
I'm thinking about removing the third row seating and putting a bladder under the Drifta drawers. Might have to get a custom made to maximise the space.
Regards
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