Puma cruise control [Archive] - Australian Land Rover Owners

Bess

15th January 2014, 07:10 PM

Just wandered out to Bess to check my receipts , not much help I'am sorry cause it's an Autron unit. Had it fitted about 12mths ago at BDP in Sydney. No probs with install,fitted just where I wanted it. Works extremely well & even better with Alive remap in place. Less over speed when cresting hills due to lower throttle percentage required for given road speed. All in all I guess I'am happy with it.
Regards Chris.:)

nugge t

15th January 2014, 07:16 PM

Yep. The over speed cresting hills was my only criticism. I would have happily got another for the 130 but given the laclk of communication thought it was worth seeing if there was an alternative.

Pickles2

15th January 2014, 07:49 PM

VDO would be another option for you.
If you google VDO Cruise control, I guess you'd find a contact in your state.
Cheers, Pickles.

mark_coffey

15th January 2014, 09:43 PM

I installed an AP900 about 12 months ago, PUMA 2.4, never had an issue, went the stalk option and it fitted into the steering switch cradle and into the knockouts in the column cover. cost about $1000

nugge t

16th January 2014, 09:23 AM

Hi Mark

You installed it yourself? Any issues? They say it has to be calibrated either on road or by one of their "installer network members". Wouldn't think there would be too many of them in Whyalla :D:D

Haven't spoken to them yey but if the on road calibration isn't a nighhtmare I would be happy to fit it myself.

nugge t

16th January 2014, 09:26 AM

Hi Pickles2,

not finding VDO guys coming out of the woodwork in Brissie.

Cheers

Scallops

16th January 2014, 11:44 AM

I believe MR Auomotive do a cruise control for the PUMA - I'm not sure what system they use, but you could give them a ring and see if they can point you towards an alternative.

nugge t

16th January 2014, 11:48 AM

Thanks Scallops...apreciate it.

Pickles2

16th January 2014, 01:43 PM

Hi Pickles2,

not finding VDO guys coming out of the woodwork in Brissie.

Cheers
I googled up VDO Cruise Control Brisbane...there's a few on there...try SGESCO 07 37153715..??
Pickles.

mark_coffey

16th January 2014, 02:40 PM

Hi Nugget,

I installed it myself, the longest was to wire in the foot pedal connections, having soldered and heatshrink every connection.
As for the calibration, I didnt have to do anything really apart from take it for a drive, I dont have too much issue with over run unless it is a steep decline.
All I needed was the instructions supplied and a good copy of the wiring diagram, AULRO, and away I went.
the best investment I have ever done with this truck

Defender Mike

16th January 2014, 03:48 PM

Mine cost $ 750 fitted and it took the guy around 2 hrs . There are two red wires to choose from coming from the fly by wire and he picked the wrong one first go. After that it all went well. I don't think any cruise control knows it has reached the top of a hill until it over speeds . I had my resume slowed down a bit to save fuel. We have done 6000ks with it so far and love it.:)
Mike

Samblers

16th January 2014, 06:30 PM

Who was it in Perth did this Mike?

Just did 2150kms and cruise control would have been nice!

pannawonica

16th January 2014, 06:38 PM

AP900 from Mobilecentre in the UK cost 275 pounds with postage. Good back up and support, spent extra ten quid for T harness for the clutch switch was well worth it.:D

Rickoz

16th January 2014, 09:02 PM

Has anyone fitted a cruise control other then the Autron. I had an AUtron in the 110 and was very happy with it but have had a bit oif trouble trying to deal with them this time and wondered if anyone had an alternative for a Puma.
I sent them a e-mail & got a reply the next working day, what sort of trouble are u having. Maybe i shouldn't order one if they hard to deal with (no customer Support).

I put up a thread "Ricks Wish List" a Cruise Control is on it.

nugge t

17th January 2014, 06:10 AM

I sent them a e-mail & got a reply the next working day, what sort of trouble are u having. Maybe i shouldn't order one if they hard to deal with (no customer Support).

I put up a thread "Ricks Wish List" a Cruise Control is on it.

Have had a lot of trouble getting a return phone call which doesn't bode well

pannawonica

17th January 2014, 09:10 PM

I had a bit of difficulty fitting the cruise control, my fault really. Every time I rang up Tim the owner of mobile centre, he came to the phone to help me, displaying more patience than myself.:D:D

Defender Mike

18th January 2014, 05:31 PM

Who was it in Perth did this Mike?

Just did 2150kms and cruise control would have been nice!
I emailed Autron and they gave me the contact details of big Dave from Delphi 0416286185. He did a good job but winged a bit about how difficult Defenders are to work on.
Mike:)

nugge t

19th January 2014, 06:18 AM

The guy in Brisbane who fitted the autron to the 110 was exactly the same:D

wally

21st January 2014, 08:22 PM

The local car audio bloke here fits Command units. I'd be interested to know if anyone has any experience with those.

wally

21st January 2014, 08:31 PM

By way of a reply to my own thread, a quick search has revealed that the AP900 as installed by panawonica, is a Command unit. So there you go. Does anyone have any more feedback on them?

nugge t

22nd January 2014, 08:12 AM

JayBoRover

22nd January 2014, 10:22 AM

I have spoken with the Command people and theya re insisteant that the unit must be fitted by one of their certified installers. They were checking who would do it in my area but I am still waiting to hear.
That puts me off straight away. Where will they be if it fails out in the middle of nowhere? I prefer to do all my accessory installations myself so I know exactly how it's done and how to deal with it.
Also, I'd be keen enough to have Cruise Control on the Puma but not if overrun at the crest of hills is an issue. Been there done that with my Nissan GUte and it frustrated the heck out of me:mad:. My wife's Audi has no such issue and I like the CC in that. If there was an aftermarket CC to suit the Puma that worked like the Audi's CC, I'd be a buyer for sure.

Rickoz

23rd January 2014, 10:26 PM

Our Products - Cruise Control (http://www.motorcare.com.au/content.php?pageid=1248854117)

Defender Mike

23rd January 2014, 11:51 PM

We are back in WA although still 400 ks from home and have now done over 10,000 ks with the Autron . I'm very happy with it we have tested it in all types of conditions including low range crawling to high speed touring . The guy fitted it at my home so I could watch where everything was hooked up. I believe there can be insurance issues if it's not installed by a qualified installer ( remember the runaway toyotas). The most the speed picks up at top of hills is 5 kph and it drops again in a hundred meters. No worse than my company Hilux or my Old Disco . In areas with lots of corners and up and down hill like Norseman to Coolgardie I turn it off no cruise works well in these conditions and you need to drive the vehicle yourself. I found on very heavy corrigations it did not work and kept dropping out but again this type of situation requires manual input on the throttle. I drove 1300 ks today across the Nullabor and I don't have a sore right foot.:)
Mike

JayBoRover

24th January 2014, 12:01 AM

... no cruise works well in these conditions and you need to drive the vehicle yourself. Mike
Nah - sounds like you need to drive my wife's Audi. You'd be lucky if it'd overrun by 1kph even on the crest of a steep hill. I'm pretty sure it'll also bring in engine braking and down-change (tip-tronic auto) on a steep downhill to maintain the CC set speed. I use it pretty much every time I drive it. Overrun of +5kph sounds like my old GUte with the K-mart CC fitted at ~$200. I would very, very rarely use it because it was ... I'll be nice ... "frustrating".
Does the Autron have a minimum useable speed? The K-mart one wouldn't go below 40kph, so was limited use for low range.

Defender Mike

24th January 2014, 12:39 AM

No I set it up on the old telegraph track in and out of trees in low range at 20 kph and it worked ok. On the beach at Fraser Island it was great at 50 kph . It will do me although I will take you up on a drive of the Audi. Need to catch up I have heaps of news and found lots of Series 1 bits. How about dinner in a week or so after I get the house and pool back in shape .
Mike:)

wally

30th January 2014, 03:35 PM

MR Automotive sell one called autostrada e-cruise. Does anyone have one of those?

Dorian

31st January 2014, 03:15 PM

MR Automotive sell one called autostrada e-cruise. Does anyone have one of those?

Wally
I got MR to install mine, works well :) , same problem with overspeed at the top of a hill, but every cruise I have has had the same problem especially if towing. My background in control systems tells me it's something to do with integral windup and if you solved it you would have problems elsewhere.
From memory it was the first one the mechanic had installed in a Defender and it cost about $750 installed.
Mine looks exactly like this one Our Products - Cruise Control (http://www.motorcare.com.au/content.php?pageid=1248854117)

Cheers Glen

dullbird

31st January 2014, 04:02 PM

That link just brings up the 4wd service I can't see any pic if the cruise or find the product on their website

Ancient Mariner

31st January 2014, 06:42 PM

Nah - sounds like you need to drive my wife's Audi. You'd be lucky if it'd overrun by 1kph even on the crest of a steep hill. I'm pretty sure it'll also bring in engine braking and down-change (tip-tronic auto) on a steep downhill to maintain the CC set speed. I use it pretty much every time I drive it. Overrun of +5kph sounds like my old GUte with the K-mart CC fitted at ~$200. I would very, very rarely use it because it was ... I'll be nice ... "frustrating".
Does the Autron have a minimum useable speed? The K-mart one wouldn't go below 40kph, so was limited use for low range.
I have a Audi 3.0 tdi A4 with adaptive radar cruise control ,Once you have driven one you would not be happy with any other cruise control

fitchaj

1st February 2014, 01:09 PM

I have been quoted $926 installed for the Autron unit up here in Cairns. I thought that seemed reasonable. Is that about what everyone else is paying?

Defender Mike

1st February 2014, 04:55 PM

I payed $759 fitted here in Perth the most expensive city to live in Australia so they are having a lend of you. Get in touch with Autron direct and they will put you on to one of their installers and Quote my price fitted in December 2013 a few weeks back.
Mike:)

Defender Mike

1st February 2014, 05:00 PM

:angrylock:
I have a Audi 3.0 tdi A4 with adaptive radar cruise control ,Once you have driven one you would not be happy with any other cruise control
I see well you won't get one of them cheap. Still across the Nullabor on the way home there were no hills for a long long way and my right foot didn't ache once. Most of the WA highways are flat as well so the old bead type will do me.
Mike:)

Dorian

3rd February 2014, 02:58 PM

That link just brings up the 4wd service I can't see any pic if the cruise or find the product on their website

Apologies, works on my PC an is as per the link above by RickOz

nugge t

24th February 2014, 08:40 AM

Eventually decided on to go with the Command AP900 cruise control. Very happy with the way it works. I opted for the pad on the dash style rather than the stalk as I found that worked well for me with the last cruise and the pad is virtually identical except in colour.

Have not been on a longer drive yet but will give feed back after I head to Toowoomba next week.

specwarop

28th May 2014, 09:24 PM

Anyone know of any good places to get an Autron or AP900 installed in the Perth area?
Are they still charging $900 for these?

digger

29th May 2014, 10:03 PM

Could we not use one for a Ford Transit?

Rostra 250 9605 Cruise Control KIT 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 Ford Transit AT | eBay (http://ccs.dogpile.com/ClickHandler.ashx?ld=20140529&app=1&c=info.dogpl&s=dogpile&rc=info.dogpl&dc=&euip=1.123.196.143&pvaid=53347725192843e2bf6cd31906c6a66a&dt=Desktop&fct.uid=cfe5dac84643444f9b6e30efe122dc32&en=0WEFU%2fZhSoQrR2QhC9ngyiLWjD1jFApuD%2bA8y%2fAiI z1wW%2fgzy%2bNk0g%3d%3d&du=www.ebay.com.au%2fitm%2fRostra-250-9605-Cruise-Control-Kit-2009-2010...&ru=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ebay.com.au%2fitm%2fRostra-250-9605-Cruise-Control-Kit-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013-Ford-Transit-AT-%2f261180478126&ap=10&coi=771&cop=main-title&npp=10&p=0&pp=0&ep=10&mid=9&hash=5CFFB7732215A8F7A7141D467BD61F0B)

or similar? Huge price difference...

specwarop

29th May 2014, 10:05 PM

I would certainly love to find out!!!

digger

30th May 2014, 09:39 AM

Had a hunt about the defender2 forum in UK.

Puma Tdci TD4 2.2 & 2.4 Cruise Control MY2007 > [407TD4CCK] - £299.99 : LED Lights, Marker Truck LED Vehicle Lighting Trailers Commercial Lightbars Warning Lights Land Rover (http://www.mobilecentre.co.uk/index.php'main_page=product_info&products_id=643)

This one above seems to be one that they say is a good one and self installed apparently very easily... and is for puma 2.4 and 2.2

still looking through

specwarop

30th May 2014, 10:04 AM

Do you think the price for that is still quite high, considering you can get the AP900 installed for $200 more (apparantly).
Do you have the link to the Defender2 article that says this?

Grappler

8th September 2014, 04:54 PM

Wally
I got MR to install mine, works well :) , same problem with overspeed at the top of a hill, but every cruise I have has had the same problem especially if towing. My background in control systems tells me it's something to do with integral windup and if you solved it you would have problems elsewhere.
From memory it was the first one the mechanic had installed in a Defender and it cost about $750 installed.
Mine looks exactly like this one Our Products - Cruise Control (http://www.motorcare.com.au/content.php?pageid=1248854117)

Cheers Glen

I did a search for Autostrada and your post came up.

Ive been considering buying The Autostrada LA01S. and installing it myself.
cruise controls | ecruise controls | Autostrada Brisbane (http://www.autostrada.com.au/cruise-controls.html)
http://www.autostrada.com.au/land-rover-cruise-controls.html
Is this what you have got and is it still performing OK?

specwarop

8th September 2014, 06:04 PM

That LA01S says it is Analog, I thought it would need to be CAN to fit the Defender?
Also, what cost are we talking to supply only?

Grappler

8th September 2014, 06:14 PM

That LA01S says it is Analog, I thought it would need to be CAN to fit the Defender?
Also, what cost are we talking to supply only?
Yeah I noticed the blurb with ea notation, but it also says its plug and play and doesnt require any calibration- tailored to the specific make model The LA 01S is for a Def Puma 2007 on - Perfect for DIY.

Was quoted $575 supply only plus 15 delivery

specwarop

8th September 2014, 06:16 PM

You're sourcing from that site?

tcf

8th September 2014, 06:20 PM

I need this. Where can I get a stalk cruise control installed in Geelong (preferably) or Melbourne?

Cheers

Tim.

Grappler

8th September 2014, 06:24 PM

Spewarop,Yes. Price and and other info came from that crowd.
Im in no rush as I wont be installing before LR warranty runs out in 6 month

Id like some feedback from someone who has used or even better installed one.

ian4002000

8th September 2014, 06:42 PM

Try Steve's Car Alarms. They did my 2012 Puma, they are mobile or it can be done at there workshop.
Price was reasonable, fitment was good and the fitter did a great job, took his time and it has worked well.

Dorian

9th September 2014, 03:29 PM

Grappler
Just posting the content of the PM I sent you.
It works OK and the actual cruise control is good.
However IMO the switch interface is a bit clunky compared to say the units that come pre-installed in holden/ford/toyota. Those units have 5 or 6 seperate buttons mounted on the steering wheel. So you get on/off, + speed, - Speed, reset and cancel. The stalk unit only has one button on the end and the whole end also rotates to give you 2 switches ( a total of 3 "Buttons") This means that the functions double up so to speak. My main problem with the unit is that the LED only shows whether the unit is on or off and not if it's engaged in cruise control or on standby. Gets a bit confusing if you are engaging and disabling it a few times in a row as there is no LED feed back, I often end up turning off the cruise when I meant only just to disengage it - not a big thing but then you loose the ability to resume at your previous setting. In my partners Mazda 3 and my previous Camry, the LED comes on yellow when you turn it on and then goes green when its engaged. The Autostrada LED just goes green when you turn it on.

Just the LED thing annoys me enough that it would make me choose a different unit if I were doing it again, but it's not enough to make me replace my unit, as it otherwise functions perfectly.

Having said that I don't know if you have a choice, I'd ask Nugget as he installed a different unit, he may have the same problem.

Cheers Glen

Dorian

10th September 2014, 12:05 PM

Update on the above post. Talked to Autostrada today and heading over Friday to look into a bi-coloured LED.

tcf

10th September 2014, 07:09 PM

So here is a list of the Puma cruise control options I found when looking, along with links. I did get prices for each option but wont be posting them in fairness to individual installers, distributors etc. (I can PM if you require). Hope this helps someone along the line.

For what its worth, I have booked in to get the Lite-On AP900 with CM-35 stalk installed. Reasons I chose this were that this stalk seems to be the best design IMHO, price (although was not the cheapest, it wasn't the dearest), local support from installer etc.

Good luck.

Tim.

************************************************** *******

Brand - Lite-On
Model - AP900
Via - Command Auto Group (they will find you a local distributor)

AP900 (http://www.tcag.com.au/products.html?p=5526)
switches as below
CM-30 (http://www.tcag.com.au/products.html?p=20223http://)
CM-35 (http://www.tcag.com.au/products.html?p=5537)
CM7 (http://www.tcag.com.au/products.html?p=5539)

Brand - Aus Cruise
Model - Autron
Via - Aus Cruise (they will find you a local distributor)
Autron Australia (http://www.autron.com.au/pages/Auscruise/Drive-by-Wire.php)
switches
Autron Switches (http://www.autron.com.au/pages/Auscruise/switches.phphttp://)

Brand - Terrafirma
Model - TFCCK07
Via - Many resellers
TFCCK07 - Terrafirma cruise control (http://www.terrafirma4x4.com/product_detail.php?prod=TFCCK07&grp=359)
(I believe the stalk is identical to TD5 models?)

Brand - Autostrada
Model - LA01S
Via - Autostrada
Autostrada LA01S (http://www.autostrada.com.au/land-rover-cruise-controls.html)

Brand - Defender Tuning
Model - Cruise Control (looks to me, to be the same/similar to Lite-On AP900 unit)
Via - Land Rover Tuning
Landrover Tuning Cruise (http://www.landrovertuning.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=cruise)

Dorian

15th September 2014, 12:14 PM

As a followup to the Autostrada unit I have installed. Headed over to Autostrada Friday and had the BI coloured LED installed. Used it in anger over the week end and it made my life easier would recommend going for the two coloured LED. Had a talk to the chap over there and the two coloured LED has always been available just need to ask for it and add a few dollars.

Cheers

specwarop

15th September 2014, 01:33 PM

Wow I must be cheap...I am finding it hard to justify spending upwards of $700 for something that essentially will only keep the speed of the vehicle constant....

Grappler

17th October 2014, 11:03 PM

Just got back from a test drive having installed Autostrada eCruise to my 2.2 130 HCPU this arvo

Works fine, and even performed at speeds of less than 40 kph

Chose to buy it as a kit and DIY. The instructions provided are basic and adequate. Identifying the correct wire at connector 1040 pin 13 (vehicle speed at instrument cluster) has the potential for confusion as there are several Red/Black wires. Use a meter to confirm the correct conductor

Took about 3 hours but most of that was running cables neat and secure. Needed to make 4 solder joints in existing wiring 1 at the connector to the instrument cluster, 2 at the brake switch and one on the clutch master switch.

The ECU fits neatly under the dash- The only criticism on the installation is the connector jumper for the accelerator pedal is a bit untidy. Will probably extend the existing connector guard to hide and protect the extra connectors

digger

18th October 2014, 02:00 AM

Grappler

19th October 2014, 12:04 PM

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photos please?

Here are a couple of pics. One showing the location of the stalk and one of the accel pedal jumper connectors. Plan to fabricate a cover to protect the extra connectors

Done a few more trips and happy with the unit. Holds speed within a few kph . Tried it at low speed in lower gear and it drops out at 36kph

tcf

5th November 2014, 05:21 PM

Summing up from my earlier research posted, I had the AP-900 cruise unit installed with the CM-30 stalk. Stalk went behind the wiper switch and is easy to reach and use. Only criticism is the over/under speed is a bit too large (6-8kph either way) on only gentle undulations.

Overall I am happy with the unit. And is not too much hassle to cope with the over/under speed.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/948.jpg (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/tcf19/media/EAFB4C54-4056-4352-9A05-FA4FCBD60CCD_zpszw2krtek.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/949.jpg (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/tcf19/media/D4A6118F-2216-4660-BC4D-2DF29AC75DFD_zpsbox42nd1.jpg.html)

esamari

9th October 2019, 04:11 PM

Has anyone installed the cruise control kit from CANM8 ?

The kits looks pretty decent and the price.......185 pounds from UK

PRECISION CRUISE CONTROL LAND ROVER DEFENDER (http://www.canm8.com/cruise-control-systems/land-rover-cruise-control/precision-cruise-land-rover-defender.html)

NW3192

9th January 2023, 09:44 AM

Dorian

11th January 2023, 12:09 PM

Hi All -as its been a few years since posts on Cruise Control for Puma 2.2 - does anyone have any updates or comments. The Autostrada and Command AP900 seem to be the options. Whats your advice before I pull the trigger for my MY15 D90. Cheers!

I've had the Autostrada unit on my MY12 pretty much since it was new. My controls are a stalk mounted behind the wipers on the right hand side of the column which I believe is the only option.
The standard install is a unit with a single colour LED to show if it's on or off.
Probably me but I had trouble with setting it at the correct speed or even telling whether it was engaged or not, I eventually got a two colour LED which shows if it has been set as well, much better.

It works as it should and while I am happy with it and would not put you off buying one , don't expect anything fancy in terms of functionality.
I am sure you are aware of this, but with the defender being a modestly powered diesel, there is no cruise control that will make it perform well in hilly terrain

Cheers Glen

edit - sorry I'd forgotten that I had posted to this thread previously.

NW3192

11th January 2023, 02:11 PM

I've had the Autostrada unit on my MY12 pretty much since it was new. My controls are a stalk mounted behind the wipers on the right hand side of the column which I believe is the only option.
The standard install is a unit with a single colour LED to show if it's on or off.
Probably me but I had trouble with setting it at the correct speed or even telling whether it was engaged or not, I eventually got a two colour LED which shows if it has been set as well, much better.

It works as it should and while I am happy with it and would not put you off buying one , don't expect anything fancy in terms of functionality.
I am sure you are aware of this, but with the defender being a modestly powered diesel, there is no cruise control that will make it perform well in hilly terrain

Cheers Glen

edit - sorry I'd forgotten that I had posted to this thread previously.

Thanks - and yes - not expecting much other than a foot off the accelerator while freeway cruising

Have quotes on the AP900 (~$900) and Auto strada (~$1600) both fitted.