Caravan Hub Selection

[NTB]

Hello,

We have ordered a new caravan to be delivered 2nd quarter this year.
I have found that I cannot get matching Discovery 4 Hubs (PCD 5x120, M14x1.5) for the caravan. The caravan shall be fitted with Vehicle Components CruiseMaster Coil Suspension. I have spoken to Vehicle Components directly and they have confirmed that I cannot get matching Discovery Hubs.
So I need to choose which Hubs to have fitted.

I am tossing up between the following:
6 Stud Nissan/Toyota (PCD 6x139.7)
5 Stud Toyota (PCD 5x150)

I cannot be the first one with a Discovery having to make this choice. So I am interested to hear what others have chosen for their caravan hubs before I make my final choice.

NTB

[rufusking]

Yes they don't do a 120PCD with M14 studs but they do a standard Commodore (120PCD) with 7/16 studs. Obviously there are many design aspects to the van setup, # of axles, GVM, limit of rim offset, etc but with a hub ring and different nuts there may be a work around?

[Graeme]

There is a problem with using Commodore hubs albeit fitted with the correct studs in that the load rating of the hub and its bearings when fitted with wheels with 30" tyres may not be enough for the weight of the van. If load rating is not an issue then the hub boss may not fit through the cap hole in the LR rim although may withstand machining to fit. If you get past these hurdles then the axle has to be longer than usual to cater for the more positive offset of the LR rims.

The boss on heavier duty hubs is a little too large for LR rims (normal minimum is 80mm whereas LR needs 73mm - I had mine machined to take X5 rims) but is much too big for the cap hole.

[101RRS]

The boss on heavier duty hubs is a little too large for LR rims (normal minimum is 80mm whereas LR needs 73mm - I had mine machined to take X5 rims) but is much too big for the cap hole.

I have VE Commodore hubs on my box trailer and my X5 rims went straight on without any issues - no machining required. I haven't tried the RRS rims as yet.

Garry

[IvanR]

It is possible to do it (fit LR pattern rims) but it means getting the hubs machined to the min possible. This is the case if the hubs have parallel bearings. ie inner and outer the same size. In my case the minnium for the boss was 78mm and I think the wheel centre from memory is about about 76mm. I used Dynamic steel wheels and then had the wheel centre machined to fit the hubs. This means that push comes to shove the trailer rims will fit the D3, but not the other way round. And yes I was told it was not possible etc, etc. Ended up talking directly to the manufacturer of the hubs to sort it all out.
If use hubs with smaller outside bearings then it isnt a problem.

IvanR

[NTB]

Hello All,

Thanks for the replies.

I am not going to try and get the PCD120 hubs fitted to the caravan as I still cannot have the same wheels as my Discovery on the Caravan. I shall not be going down the track of modifying my new caravan.
The Vehicle Components has said No to fitting PCD120 land rover wheels.

I am interested in what other's have chosen to fit to their caravans when travelling in the outback.

NTB

[discotwinturbo]

Forum member heavyduty (Dave) had some hubs made to fit his camper trailer to match his factory 19 inch rims. I think it cost him a few bickies for the mod. From memory it was a qld mob.
I will be doing the same shortly for my offroad ct.....I have cruise master independent and they were unable to do this for me.
Brett...

[goingbush]

Go with the 6 stud, Most 4WD's use them including Patroi, Pajero, Prado, FJ Cruiser, Hilux, Ford courier / Ranger / Bravo BT50 / Great Wall , just about any Jap Ute I can think of and all older Landcruisers,

Only the 100- 200 series and Later 70 series use the 5 stud.

so if all else fails you can pick up a spare anywhere .

[Graeme]

Forum member heavyduty (Dave) had some hubs made to fit his camper trailer to match his factory 19 inch rims. I think it cost him a few bickies for the mod. From memory it was a qld mob.
I will be doing the same shortly for my offroad ct.....I have cruise master independent and they were unable to do this for me.
Brett...
You might want to check that the offset of the LR rims wont cause the tyres to rub the chassis before going too far with the project. A live axle can always be replaced with a longer one but not so simple with independent suspension.

[RoverLander]

I have recently taken delivery of a new 21 foot caravan with the 3.7 Tonne Cruisemaster independent suspension. I didn't even try to match the Disco 4 wheels as I couldn't imagine the caravan with 19inch rims.


I did specify 12 inch (rather than standard 10inch) and off-road brakes. The bearings are meant to be stronger. The off road brakes are designed to cope with dust and vibration. Apparently the normal brakes catch and bend internal components (I was told this and haven't seen it).


The wheels I got have six studs but I cant tell you what they match.


I would be interested in what type of caravan you are ordering.


Peter

[Ean Austral]

Personally I would think tyre size would be more important than stud pattern. Being able to get tyres at out of the way places at a reasonable cost would be a better option. How often to you think you will need a new rim.

Cheers Ean

[NTB]

Hello All,

Thanks for the replies.

Ean Austral
Good point about the tyre size.

RoverLander
I have ordered a "LifeStyle Camper Trailers" AT12 with Internal Kitchen. Which is a Hybrid Poptop Caravan.
Lifestyle AT-12 (http://www.lifestylecampertrailers.com.au/model/lifestyle-at-12/)
Looking forward to the new caravan.
Currently have a Goldstream Campervan which has served us well. Will be for sale shortly.

NTB

[discotwinturbo]

You might want to check that the offset of the LR rims wont cause the tyres to rub the chassis before going too far with the project. A live axle can always be replaced with a longer one but not so simple with independent suspension.

Good point. Heavyduty's camprite is independent and worked well for his central Australia trip.

I think I will go and have a closer look at his to be sure. I really want to reduce having two many spares for remote trips. One for trailer and one for car will give me the extra option should trailer or car have two flats between them.

Brett....