Anyone recognise this defender?

[ozy013]

Hey all, this 2007 defender is currently advertised on carsales, just wondering if anyone knows its history ? as the dealer selling doesn't have much of a clue.

2007 Land Rover Defender 110 07MY (http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Land-Rover-Defender-2007/AGC-AD-14331085/?Cr=13&sdmvc=1)

[DeeJay]

I normally don't look at carsales etc, I've drawn the line at owning two Landies, but I've seen that advertised elsewhere before Christmas, maybe eBay ? I recall trying to match the background with Albert Park as it was supposed to be there. Pretty sure it was registered too, ( & cheaper) I would be cross referring the VIN & checking with Vicroads as its unreg which is suss. Any books with it? Sounds to me they don't want the old owner getting questioned.

[Dopey]

I know nothing of the vehicle, however looking at the photos from carsales, there is a few things that I noticed....

1) left hand rear door rubber is coming off (a simple fix).
2) there is a row of four rivets(?) on the bottom of the right rear guard, never seen this before on 110's ( just interested to know what they are for).
3) if you look at carsales photo numbers 5 & 8, it shows aftermarket rear trailing arms that have a different mount than standard??? Allows for better flex without stressing the bushes, but not sure how legal they are?
4) it looks like it may have had a suspension lift? If so, has it a double cardon front drive shaft in it to alleviate binding of the yokes?
5) why no rear corner protection? Ie: Mulgo, TerraFirma, or FF corner protection. (In my opinion, I would think it better to start with protection first rather than modifications) Others may disagree....
6) if looking at it seriously to buy, prospective owners should remove the rear door panel to inspect the inside of the door frame for cracking as it still has the standard rear door mounted carrier for the wheel.

Mike.

[noogie]

It looks way over priced anyway.
You'd only consider it if it had all the goodies on it.
lockers
sliders

Larger intercooler
etc
etc
etc
I'd pass on it personally.

[Gerokent]

2) there is a row of four rivets(?) on the bottom of the right rear guard, never seen this before on 110's ( just interested to know what they are for).

Maybe re-enforcing for mud flap bracket?

[chris_mack]

I actually saw this Defender on saturday becuase it was in the same yard (but a different dealer) as another Puma i was looking at. Nobody was there from that dealer & it was locked so I just had a quick look at it, but id say it looks better in the flesh than in the pictures.

[ozy013]

Thanks for the feed back, I spoke to dealer on the phone couple of days ago and they were vague to say the least. Looked at it today on way home from work, they couldn't find the service books nor were there any receipts for the aftermarket gear. It's raised approx 2 inches and there's just the standard drive shaft. I asked for a test drive, the reply was not today come back on the weekend !!!. Very suss, needless to say i walked away.
I also couldn't figure out the need for the rivets and they're on both sides.

[beefy]

keep in mind in wa full service history can mean it hasn't been serviced because in the history it shows that's it's had nothing done to it.

[Sirocco]

You don't need double jointed props for a moderate 2" lift. Only if you find it IS binding. Otherwise your just wasting your money... like corner protection.

G

[Dopey]

[QUOTE=Sirocco;2070088]You don't need double jointed props for a moderate 2" lift. Only if you find it IS binding. Otherwise your just wasting your money... like corner protection.

G'day Sirocco,
Not looking to get in an argument, however there are different driveline angles in defenders with 300TDI's and Defenders with 2.4 & 2.2 TDCI engines.

I have a couple of defenders 90's, 1 a 300TDI 90 (private import from the UK) which now has a two inch lift. I have put a wide angle propshaft on it.
This Defender has had on it at various times, different height springs up to a 5 inch lift, and no real issues with binding at all.

One of my other 90's is a 2013 LE TDCI, I have used this off road a little bit and have noticed that there has been a bit of binding of the prop shaft yokes with standard suspension height, only got worse with a lift approximately 45-50mm height.
So I have put a double cardon joint prop shaft on it and no such issues are displayed since.

Many, many, many owners of TDCI engined Defenders around the world have had similar issues with theirs, this is why it is very rare to see a TDCI Defender with more than a two inch lift, and a large percentage of these owners either go for wide angle prop shafts or double cardon shafts.

Anyways, on to rear guard protection.
One of the reasons that I brought up that it had no rear guard protection was, (in my opinion) I would always go for levels and layers protection first rather than big suspension modifications.

The vehicle in question, has had suspension mods that would be beneficial to it in hard core off road situations, Ie: increased flex, better articulation of the axle with the trailing arms in the pictures.

Your 90 may not require rear corner protectors because a lot of the time you are towing a trailer and may not wish to take tracks that extra protection is perhaps needed for?

Very simply a Defender 110 has a big bum compared to your and mine Defender 90's. They tend to be like Kim Karwhateverhernameiz' bum, rather than a trim tight pert supermodels bum of a 90. With the extra overhang of a 110 over a 90 they have a potential to get caught up in tight places that a 90 may not even come close to touching.

With standard suspension you can go to lots of places, modify the suspension and you start to try to go further and to harder places.... Just makes sense to me to put a little bit of protection there to save ripping and bending the rear corner panels.

On my old 90's I have got the rear guards cut off level with the chassis crossmember and made some corner protection for what remains..
On my new 90, I have patriot alloy rear panels behind FF steel rear corner protectors.
I bent both rear corners of the car using it offroad when it was only a week old, didn't want to do more damage.

Every one is different and has differing needs for their vehicle and as such builds it to their own specs, another reason for corner protectors on my 90's are that I live in Sydney and work around places such as, Epping, Eastwood, Chatswood and Rhodes. I'm not being racist, however there are large populations in these areas that do not have a clue about successfully navigating their cars throughout the traffic with due regard to road rules and quite frequently park via touch rather than sight.
Also a lot of these people are from countries where they are the first generation to own a vehicle and don't have a history or background of learning about driving and road rules from a young age from their parents.
As such 360 degree protection for my Landies is paramount for me!

The driving instructors that attempt to teach these people to drive are even worse sometimes.....
Anyways, I have read your website, awesome trip that you are doing! One day I would like to do even half as much as you have done!
Keep up the posts on what you are doing and where you are going, and of course keep posting up the great photographs as well.
Regards,
Mike.

[MLD]

Hey all, this 2007 defender is currently advertised on carsales, just wondering if anyone knows its history ? as the dealer selling doesn't have much of a clue.

2007 Land Rover Defender 110 07MY (http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Land-Rover-Defender-2007/AGC-AD-14331085/?Cr=13&sdmvc=1)

Seems over priced for the year and kms. I just bought a 2010 130 with 44,000 kms with Bull bar and other bolts ons and the insurance book value was $34,000. Get a benchmark quote from an insurer (or Redbook/Glasses it) to get an idea what the market value is.

Heads up - if the dealer wants to sell you a aftermarket service warranty have a look at the T&C's first. I negotiated a warranty into the price and the T&C's limit warranty to vehicles under 3000 GVM. The 130 is 3500 GVM and the 110 is 3050.

A test drive with an ear out the window and crawling under the truck can be as telling as the service book.

With respect 90@, rear panel protection is the least of his concerns when buying an unknown quality. As for DC prop shaft, they create their own problems. Not much point in spending $$ on the DC if there is no binding or vibration problem. This truck may be in the lucky few to get away with a lift and no front prop shaft issues. If a lift is not necessary there is the option to return to stock height. Cheaper than a DC prop. Those issues are a distraction to the OP.

MLD