Best family dog?

[DT-P38]

Looking to get a puppy for my kids.

Have short listed Cocker Spaniel, Labrador and Golden Retriever breeds as they seem to be most family friendly for younger kids. Most likely will be a Cocker due to size and being a bit more cuddly. Constant Grooming needs they big downside.

Had heard young lab's are often crazy and are reported as most frequent biters?

Any thoughts on these breeds (or others) as family dogs for family with younger kids?

Finally, Cockers are harder to come by and reasonably expensive, anyone know a good breeder in VIC?

[Tank]

Jack Russels or crosses of same, Regards frank.

[Sitec]

Hi. We've had Labs since I was a kid back in the 70's, and I've never been bitten by one! They r still my choice today. I know its for your kids, but don't forget the rescue option... We now have two rescue pups, and they're the best dogs!! You'd be saving someone who's had a crap start to life. Any pound is happy for you to go meet all their dogs, so you can confirm they will be good with your kids. :)

[clive22]

Hi

I've had standard schnauzers as family pets. 2 now over the last 20 years

Both been nice natured, sturdy healthy dogs that don't shed too much

Bit silly when there under 2 great after that


Clive

[JDNSW]

My grandchildren have a Cavalier King Charles - friendliest dog imaginable and amazing what it puts up with from the 3yo! My niece was raised alongside a labrador - never any qualms, although he did bite my brother once - while breaking up a dog fight with a larger dog. My sons were raised alongside German Shepherds, with no problems.

John

[Homestar]

Labrador mate. We had one when the kids were groing up - he's only shuffled off in the last year. They have a great temperament towards the family that owns them, but they are very protective - this is a good and bad thing. They will never hurt anyone in the family, but can be funny around others if they don't like them.

Also, a Lab puppy will chew and destroy everything it can get its teeth into. Shoes, towels, clothes, etc left on the floor will be fair game.

They are an awesome dog though.:). If we were getting another large dog, then it would be a Lab. Got the Pugs now, which we love, but if you don't want dog hair on everything or don't want a dog sleeping on your bed, then a Pug may not be the dog for you.:D

[Dougal]

Hi

I've had standard schnauzers as family pets. 2 now over the last 20 years

Both been nice natured, sturdy healthy dogs that don't shed too much

Bit silly when there under 2 great after that


Clive

Standard Schnauzers are amazing dogs, never a dull moment. Only problem is they're too intelligent so evaluate each command before deciding to follow it or not.
They're a dog you can have a conversation with, endlessly trainable and always up for any activity.

Mine has been great with little kids. Even when he was young and really silly. Never bites back (even when beard, tail and ears are being pulled) and will delicately take a sausage from the hands of a baby and then lick their hands clean afterwards.:D

I had a cocker spaniel as a kid. He was a complete sook, great dog but the hanging ears were terrible for picking up grass seeds which resulted in pain, ear infections and eventual hearing loss. I couldn't get another one solely for that reason, the place I live is too dry with too many seeds.

[Grumbles]

Got the Pugs now, which we love, but if you don't want dog hair on everything or don't want a dog sleeping on your bed, then a Pug may not be the dog for you.:D

Had to chuckle at this comment. I have a recently arrived 18 month old Cavalier who thinks my house - and bed - is his. I've never owned a small dog before - always had and still have Weimaraners. The little Cav is an absolute gem with his interaction, personality, affection and his intelligence.

[seano87]

I have a cocker, and another one that is a cocker x cavalier.

Grooming the cocker spaniel is really a non-event to me. She likes to curl up with me and I'll give her a quick run over with a slicker brush every few days - that gets rid of any small tangles and loose hair with ease. Clipped every 6-8 weeks usually by me.

Long ears - haven't had a problem with any dog yet. Check the ears regularly and all has been fine. They aren't a maintenance free breed, but I hardly think a few minutes grooming every couple of days is terrible. You wash, feed, dress your children for years on end and survive, having to do a little for a canine member of the family every so often shouldn't be the biggest deciding factor.

As for a lab, grew up with one as a child (lab x kelpie x ???) Beautiful dog, more prone to getting bored when left alone, digging holes etc. He was a pound puppy.

[seano87]

Had to chuckle at this comment. I have a recently arrived 18 month old Cavalier who thinks my house - and bed - is his. I've never owned a small dog before - always had and still have Weimaraners. The little Cav is an absolute gem with his interaction, personality, affection and his intelligence.

Intelligent? I want to meet an intelligent cavalier! Our cav x cocker isn't the sharpest at the best of times, and my parents pure bred cavalier is stunningly dopey - but about as adorable as they come.

Weimaraners - I had a weim x short hair collie (jet black but looks exactly like a weim) who now lives with my parents with the cavalier as they are inseparable. Weimaraner's are just great aren't they?

[Dougal]

I have a cocker, and another one that is a cocker x cavalier.

Grooming the cocker spaniel is really a non-event to me. She likes to curl up with me and I'll give her a quick run over with a slicker brush every few days - that gets rid of any small tangles and loose hair with ease. Clipped every 6-8 weeks usually by me.

Long ears - haven't had a problem with any dog yet. Check the ears regularly and all has been fine. They aren't a maintenance free breed, but I hardly think a few minutes grooming every couple of days is terrible. You wash, feed, dress your children for years on end and survive, having to do a little for a canine member of the family every so often shouldn't be the biggest deciding factor.

As for a lab, grew up with one as a child (lab x kelpie x ???) Beautiful dog, more prone to getting bored when left alone, digging holes etc. He was a pound puppy.

The problem we had with ears was the dog with nose down trying to track rabbits. Invariably through seeding grass.
By the time you'd get home he'd be hanging his head to one side and clearly in pain.
So out with the cooking oil to try and soften the seed and book him straight into the vet again.
Shaving the inside of his ears helped reduce it, but didn't stop it.

For grooming the Schnauzers don't shed so just like a sheep the keep getting fluffier and fluffier. I get mine clipped about 4x a year. The groomer is excellent and it's a full health check for the dog at the same time.

[RIN03]

It all comes down to the training. Most dogs can be suited to family life some more than others. The thing is to have a set of rules that you set on how you want your dog to act. We lie all over our dog and put our fingers in her mouth even when she is eating a bone, basicly everything that kids will do. We don't have kids yet but you can't expect a dog to all of a sudden become the perfect dog if you don't put the time in at the start. Trust me it is a lot of work at first but it is very much worth it if you can trust the dog and know you can tell a dog to sit (and it listen) if it gets a bit excited running around with kids and starts to jump up on them.

[Reads90]

It all comes down to the training. Most dogs can be suited to family life some more than others. The thing is to have a set of rules that you set on how you want your dog to act. We lie all over our dog and put our fingers in her mouth even when she is eating a bone, basicly everything that kids will do. We don't have kids yet but you can't expect a dog to all of a sudden become the perfect dog if you don't put the time in at the start. Trust me it is a lot of work at first but it is very much worth it if you can trust the dog and know you can tell a dog to sit (and it listen) if it gets a bit excited running around with kids and starts to jump up on them.

Well said

We have two Siberian Huskies and we took a lot if time to train them knowing we would have kids. And we can take food off them and put you hand in near their teeth when they are eating and they stop eating. We did all this know the kids would do it, and they have.

But one important thing with dogs is making sure they know where they are in the pack.

Ours are at the bottom and they know that. They like being part of a pack and love knowing where they are in that pack . Huskies are right into this and there are some things you have to do to make sure they know this.
Always walk through a door way before them.
Step over them when they are asleep or lying on the floor.
And other dominating things.



The dogs even have chosen one of the boys each as theirs although the boys will tell you they chose the dogs.
The dogs are now 6 and we have 5 and 4 year old boys. So you can imaging what the dogs have been through but they have been angels and put up with a lot from the boys. Sometime it amazes
me what they have put up with but still love the boys.

Great dogs and great part of our family. Although saying all this still would not trust the dogs totally.

[Chucaro]

I am looking for a dog as well with the idea to training it as a assistance dog or therapy dog to take it to the old people homes and give them some good quality time.
Golden Retrievers, Labradors and puddles are on the list. having said that I was talking with reputable breeders and it was mentioned that Labradors are having problems related to the temperament later and are trying to eradicate this problem.
Many of them are timid and this make them be defensive and in many cases nip a person or do not integrate. This is a problem for what I am trying to do.

[amatol]

You could have many dog breeds that would be suitable. All would need basic discipline and obedience training. Not too hard to achieve if a person is committed to having a good, obedient, family member.

Socializing pups from an early age is very important to avoid behavioural problems later in life. A lot of people complain about dogs this and dogs that, but I would put money on that in most instances people themselves are to blame for the dog's poor behaviours. No point getting dogs if they just sit in a backyard all day.

Most important though, is NEVER, EVER leave ANY dog unsupervised with children no matter how well he/she is trained or how smart you may think he/she is.. It is asking for trouble. Kids may not be the nicest humans when it comes to dogs and will do some silly things, most unintentionally, but a dog may react and it can be disastrous. What Reads90 said about the food, taking it away etc is excellent and for dogs to know where they are in your pack.

The only other thing I would suggest is check your local pounds out for suitable dogs. I am strong advocate for rescuing unwanted animals, as there are tens of thousands of them every year.

Best of luck.... :)

[LR D4]

We had the same list of dogs for a latest dog and after a lot of reseach we went with a miniature labradoodle, which is a mix of a lab, poodle and a cocker spaniel.

Easyly trained, no malting, loves kids and old people to death, sometimes a little too much! but very loving!
Down sides are, he's a bit crazy and you need firm training, also he's a bit of a mummy's boy and he's scared of the vacuum cleaner! Wimp!!

[Dougal]

But one important thing with dogs is making sure they know where they are in the pack.

Ours are at the bottom and they know that. They like being part of a pack and love knowing where they are in that pack . Huskies are right into this and there are some things you have to do to make sure they know this.
Always walk through a door way before them.
Step over them when they are asleep or lying on the floor.
And other dominating things.

Always feed the dog after everyone else. Only let them up on chairs/beds when invited by you.

Dogs get really stressed if they think they are in charge. That's when all the problems start.
Particularly with small dogs when people don't think the above rules matter.

[buckscreek]

We have a 13 y.o kelpie border collie cross and a 3 y.o red kelpie. The old dog we've had since birth, the young dog we got as a 6 month old pup from the pound. They are both very loyal dogs who enjoy being part of the crew. They love all our kids and have never been any problem aprt from being VERY energetic as young dogs. They're easy to train but you have to put the time in. The young dog was already housetrained, trained to lead, sit etc when we rescued him so a great find and he is a lovely soft dog who isvvery gentle ehen he takes food, both will let us look in their mouths ears etc and take food away from them. Kelpies are often overlooked as family pets but if you have some space and time to train/exercise I think they are great!

[Redback]

English Staffie, brilliant with kids.

Baz.

[MR LR]

Border collie

[London Boy]

Border collie
Got one of those. I'd not have one if there are small kids around, too much energy and too much of a tendency to nip.

Grew up with Labradors but they can get a bit lairy around other dogs and around strangers. But they're protective of the family, so that's a plus.

Retrievers are just dumb blondes. Nice enough but not much going on upstairs.

Cocker spaniel - ears and hips, springer spaniel - rage.

Best is a schnauzer for a family dog. Take next to bugger all looking after, negligible moulting, gentle, trainable, all those things. That and they look pretty cool.

[BMKal]

I was brought up with German Shepherds, as were both our kids. Never had any problems with them.

It's not the breed of dog that gives you problems mixing dogs with with small kids - it's the attitude of the owners. ;)

One of my Grandmothers also had Border Collies and I spent a lot of time with them when on holidays. Loved them - brilliant dog with a great temperament.

[Epic_Dragon]

id be wary of border collies too, they seem to have a closet aggressive side. the one here killed my pet sheep. and he is well trained and raised extremely well.

rottys or rotty crosses are fantastic family pets, cuddly, protective, friendly and will sit there all day letting young ones brush them. i know they are too big, but great danes are fantastic with children too. they are what i grew up with (and old english sheep dogs)

like mentioned though dont discount a rescued dog :) grew up with one and she was awesome, and both of mine now are sensational.
id be wary too with the small breeds and children. i only know of one small dog that hasnt shown any aggression/bitten anyone, shes a fox terrier. every other little breed ive come across seems to like tp nip/growl. id be petrified of them nipping little fingers. i do not know if it is the few i know are just bad examples or what. or they were not raised right or not trained or whatever. but small is not necessarily safe :) golden retrievers are awesome gentle dogs.
lots of excellent advice in this thread though :) good luck! rodehsian ridgebacks are another great family dog. protective yet gentle and very smart and easy to train. a bit larger than the average labrador/retriever but absolutely awesome dogs.
a cross breed might suit you better though, crosses a lot of the time seem to be better at avoiding the health problems a lot of purebreds suffer, and are a lot cheaper to buy than pure breeds. and if undecided with a lab or retriever say, there are a lot of them crossed together around and make lovely dogs, best of both worlds :) the unlikely dogs often make the best ones :)

by the way im not trying to offend small dog owners at all, just sharing my experiences. i know we all have different experiences with dogs of all shapes and sizes. As most if not all issues are caused by lack of training, and not being raised correctly among all dogs.

oh another good breed for families is the boxer :)

[clive22]

Hi


From Dougal.. couldn't agree more


"Always feed the dog after everyone else. Only let them up on chairs/beds when invited by you"

Most problems with dogs are elevating them in the pack..don't.. there not humans.. there dogs..they don't mind being low in the order.. set appropriate boundaries, keep to 'em at all times.

I never let my dog in the kitchen (safety reasons), on the bed and couch my space, nor feed at the same time. Separates us and makes for a better relationship. They really don't mind - they like the order.

Clive

[Epic_Dragon]

oh and dalmations :D other than when they get old they turn into grumpy little people and fat haha :) but they offer never ending devotion to their families.

[ugu80]

Doesn't matter what you get, spend some time with the parents to get an idea of the temperament of the puppy.

[DiscoMick]

I work on the theory that, for safety reasons living in the city, I wouldn't buy any dog bred for hunting or rounding up cattle, since it will try to control those around it.
For example, a relative had a border collie which just went round and round and round the backyard fence all day, obviously needing to get out for more exercise, but also patrolling its territory. I grew up on a farm, so I know what dogs will do if allowed to get a pack mentality.
Its not the size of dog that matters, but the temperament. The wife's little Pomeranian is more likely to bite than our old boxer, for example.
As other have said, dogs have to be trained to accept they are the bottom of the pack and all humans, including little kids, are above them and must be obeyed. Dogs need some basic training (sit, stop, wait, OK) so they take orders.
They also must be taught about unacceptable behaviour (barking at people who walk past in the street or noises). People in the next street have a dog which just barks all day continuously while they are at work. Its obviously bored, and undisciplined. And they have to have a bit of territory which is 'theirs', and a routine they come to rely on.
BTW our daughter in law got a beautiful beagle recently and its just the most lovely dog, but it has to be exercised and its obsessive about tracking smells. Allow for that and its great with kids. Just a thought.

[MacMan]

NO KILL Shelter | Save-A-Dog Scheme (http://www.saveadog.org.au/)

All the current pooches in our family are rescue dogs. Our Kelpie x Shepherd took some work, but I think after what they have sometimes endured as younger dogs, rescue dogs make especially close companions in the right household.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Not really a dog person ............. just pugs!


Alhough we did have blue heeler, kelpie or their crosses on the farm.

My little pack (4) has a pug mentality and keep themselves entertained during the day or sleep.

[Dougal]

Hi


From Dougal.. couldn't agree more


"Always feed the dog after everyone else. Only let them up on chairs/beds when invited by you"

Most problems with dogs are elevating them in the pack..don't.. there not humans.. there dogs..they don't mind being low in the order.. set appropriate boundaries, keep to 'em at all times.

I never let my dog in the kitchen (safety reasons), on the bed and couch my space, nor feed at the same time. Separates us and makes for a better relationship. They really don't mind - they like the order.

Clive

The only problem here is when new people arrive who won't give commands to a dog.

My dog thinks those people are just here to play with him. Or worse.
One guy about a month ago said "oh look he's hugging me!":D

Ah no mate, that's not hugging. He's just made you his bitch.

[DiscoMick]

Yeah, they must be trained to obey commands. For example, our dogs are trained to sit and wait for an 'OK' command after I've put their feed down. If any dog gets restless about waiting I make it wait until after the others.

[DoubleChevron]

Hopefully we'll get another dog with the kids in a couple of years. There no way I'd ever get anything with the slightest bit of cattle dog in it ( no healers, etc...). Great dogs, they will absolutely destroy everything you own until there about 5years old. They WILL snap at the kids, it's bred into them to be "snap". I don't mean maul/attack. I mean "snap/bite" to control livestock.

cavlier kings charles ?? Only if you want the most stupid brainless inbred dog you could ever imagine. My sister has one and it was so brainless I'm amazed it worked out how to breath and eat.

We have had foxies and jack russels for years. My experiance with these is there is only two types.

1) proper jack russels/foxies... There vicious little bastards that want to chase a kill everything (brilliant if you like rabiting). Don't always do well around young kids and will snap at them.
2) whinger jack russels/foxies .... scared of everything including there own shadows and sooks. This type are great for kids.

Somehow we always ended up with one of each type. 1 whoosy sook and one that wanted to try and take on every german shepard in the area :o

Best dog I've ever had .... ever ... Irreplaceable .. Was the rottie cross I we got when my wife and I first met. She was a Ridgeback/rottie cross. and was bloody enormous for a female dog... The most gentle mutt you have ever seen in your life, incredibly smart .... unbelievably stubborn ( :) ). Never even snapped at anyone. Never even attacked other dogs, she'd just tower over them looking at them like they were crazy while trying to attack her. The only time she ever caused a seconds fear on my part was when we were sitting under a tree at our local playground (that backed onto bushland). the kids (2 & 4) were playing on the playground.... And I see the dog suddenly pop it's head up, every heckle up from the top of it's head right to it it's tail ....... And take off like a startled rabbit around the kids ............... :eek: :eek: :eek: There was no doubt in my my mind our dog was about to attack/killl someone or something ... I'd never even seen her heckles up in the 7years we'd had her. There was no way I could possibly stop her ... and spot she's heading for some poor, now absolutely petrified person coming out of the bush .... She come to a stop 2meters away from him and started snarling .... Only huge dogs can make that absolutely petrifying incredibly deep loud vicious sound growl.... and I was bloody scared too :eek: Our never vicious, never angry dog was about too kill someone from what I could tell :eek:... I could also see exactly what was going on, the guy was in his early 20's and was off his face on drugs ... he was definately a few sandwiches short of a picnic. As he turned and sprinted for his life I noticed he had a crossbow and a quiver of arrows on his back :eek: :eek: :eek: I'm glad he had the common sense to turn and run, 'cos there's no doubt if he'd taken even one tiny step towards the playground our kids.... She'd have attacked. Once he was out of site, she turn around and went back to the playground and layed down in the shade beside the kids again :confused: :confused:

Dogs like this never live long enough, and it's heart breaking when they die... gentle giants never live long :(

seeya,
Shane L.

[steveG]

We've got Cocker, and a Lab. Both were second hand/rescue dogs.
Cocker was extremely timid when we got her, and small kids scared the hell out of her. She had come from a family with young children so no idea what treatment she had previously.
Our previous dogs were a bitsa with some spaniel, and a Welsh Springer spaniel. Spaniel or Spaniel-cross are very good around children in my experience and I'd happily have another.

The Lab is a big boofy doufas, and not 200% food driven like most labs I've met. Great temperament.
But.....I've never known an animal to shed hair like she does.
They are both inside dogs while we are at home, and the lab just continually sheds hair all year round (just varying degrees). Compulsory sweep or dry mop of the hard floors each day. Brushing can only be done in close weave clothing and bare feet (definitely no socks unless you want them wool/dog-hair mix) and the back lawn looks like someone has ripped a feather pillow apart once you are finished.
I wouldn't have another one purely for the hair issue.

Steve

[Landover]

We are new to the dog scene and after recommendation from other family members settled on a Havanese. Google it, no one seems to know what they are. We wanted a dog that was not to big or over powering for our kids. Had him for 3 months now. He has a great temperament and very playful and intelligent. I can shove my face in his food bowl or take his bone from him and he will just give you a lick. Practice this with any dog when socializing them. Great with the kids and other dogs. They also have hair not fur so no hair left around the house. This does mean you will have to get them groomed though.

Might be worth a look, we are very happy with our choice.

[POD]

We have a golden lab who is now 13 years old, everyone who knows him comments on what a lovely dog he is. He has never showed an ounce of aggression; I suspect that the badge of 'most dog bites' was given back in the 1970's (that's when I first heard it) when Labs outnumbered all other dog breeds by quite a margin.
He sheds hair like there's no tomorrow, always has, as mentioned earlier it just varies with the season.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I bet my 4 pugs could challenge your lab in a shedding contest any day of the week. :BigCry:

[Chucaro]

:twisted:
I bet my 4 pugs could challenge your lab in a shedding contest any day of the week. :BigCry:

This photo reminds me our old Great Pyrenean after the monthly grooming :D
We line in a small place now so we cannot have another Pyr :(

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/11764_10151041929714575_752877250_n.jpg

[CraigH]

I grew up with Australian silky terriers. Their okay but can be a bit yappy. On the plus side they don't shed hair, but they will need to be cut and trimmed.
Over the past 19 years I've had Golden Retrievers ( 3 of them) and wouldn't have anything else. Just such a gentle temperament, great around kids and elderly people. Love to be part of the family, they respond well to training and love just to be next to you. Down side is they shed hair in the warmer months, but only need basic grooming and trimming. I got my last boy from golden retriever rescue and he is just perfect!

No matter which breed of dog you choose they all require a commitment and time from you and the family to look after him or her.

Good luck

Craig

[Psimpson7]

We have a golden Retriever, She is 19 months old and awesome around kids, adults and other dogs. She does weigh about 28kg's though so she can flatten unsuspecting kids.

She was socialized with other dogs and people from a very early age.

Downsides - shed a lot of fur! Can have hip problems.
Positives - loves being around people all the time. happy to be left on her own

She also loves watching fireworks for some reason!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/01/326.jpg

bit of a change from

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/01/327.jpg

[Gooner]

Anything crossed with a poodle is popular these days. Our Golden Retriever left us a couple of years back, so when the time was right we looked into the Poodle crosses.
We ended up with 2 Bichon Frise x Poodles, they are sisters.
Love 'em to bits, well behaved (for puppies), are covered in hair - not fur, so no malting or allergies or dropping of fur inside and having 2 means they keep each other company when we are at work.

[Homestar]

I bet my 4 pugs could challenge your lab in a shedding contest any day of the week. :BigCry:

Absolutely. Had a Lab, now have 2 pugs - these guys easily out shed the Lab. Can't imagine what 4 of them would do...:eek::D

[Basil135]

Growing up, we had 2 Dalmations. A pup, and then later, rescued her mum. They were great dogs, and very intelligent too.

Later on, we have had 2 Rotties, again, 1 a pup & the other a rescue.

Up until last year, we had 2 Labradors. Got the boy at 11 mths old, and a few years later, rescued a girl. She was 7, and quite literally, on her way to the vet for the final time. She lived until she was 13, and was full of character. Considering we had no idea as to her history, it was a learning curve for everyone. But, my daughter was looking after an Autistic boy a few times, and the dogs personality changed, like flicking a switch - for the best. She would come to him & sit quietly while he pat her, or hugged her or whatever. She seemed to sense that this kid was special. Mind you, when our girls went outside later, she was back to her normal self & bouncing like a kid on a pogo stick.

Middle of last year, we got another Rottie pup. He has learnt his place in the pecking order, which puts him even below the cats... ;)

Whatever breed you get, has to be right for you & the family. Rescue dogs are great, and they are usually temperament tested, and they will let you know if a particular dog is not suited to your environment. They usually will let you take it back, if it doesn't work out.

Sure, pups are cute, but it doesn't last long. :(

[gofish]

My Staffy was the best dog I have had. She was brilliant with kids & loved them. Was good with training & happy to go for a long walk or just chill out. The retrievers & labs on your list are great choices though. I have always had a soft spot for retrievers but I wanted short hair & nothing too big or small. The Staff ticked the boxes for me. Good luck & I am sure he/she will bring you plenty of joy regardless the breed.

[Epic_Dragon]

Hopefully we'll get another dog with the kids in a couple of years. There no way I'd ever get anything with the slightest bit of cattle dog in it ( no healers, etc...). Great dogs, they will absolutely destroy everything you own until there about 5years old. They WILL snap at the kids, it's bred into them to be "snap". I don't mean maul/attack. I mean "snap/bite" to control livestock.

cavlier kings charles ?? Only if you want the most stupid brainless inbred dog you could ever imagine. My sister has one and it was so brainless I'm amazed it worked out how to breath and eat.

We have had foxies and jack russels for years. My experiance with these is there is only two types.

1) proper jack russels/foxies... There vicious little bastards that want to chase a kill everything (brilliant if you like rabiting). Don't always do well around young kids and will snap at them.
2) whinger jack russels/foxies .... scared of everything including there own shadows and sooks. This type are great for kids.

Somehow we always ended up with one of each type. 1 whoosy sook and one that wanted to try and take on every german shepard in the area :o

Best dog I've ever had .... ever ... Irreplaceable .. Was the rottie cross I we got when my wife and I first met. She was a Ridgeback/rottie cross. and was bloody enormous for a female dog... The most gentle mutt you have ever seen in your life, incredibly smart .... unbelievably stubborn ( :) ). Never even snapped at anyone. Never even attacked other dogs, she'd just tower over them looking at them like they were crazy while trying to attack her. The only time she ever caused a seconds fear on my part was when we were sitting under a tree at our local playground (that backed onto bushland). the kids (2 & 4) were playing on the playground.... And I see the dog suddenly pop it's head up, every heckle up from the top of it's head right to it it's tail ....... And take off like a startled rabbit around the kids ............... :eek: :eek: :eek: There was no doubt in my my mind our dog was about to attack/killl someone or something ... I'd never even seen her heckles up in the 7years we'd had her. There was no way I could possibly stop her ... and spot she's heading for some poor, now absolutely petrified person coming out of the bush .... She come to a stop 2meters away from him and started snarling .... Only huge dogs can make that absolutely petrifying incredibly deep loud vicious sound growl.... and I was bloody scared too :eek: Our never vicious, never angry dog was about too kill someone from what I could tell :eek:... I could also see exactly what was going on, the guy was in his early 20's and was off his face on drugs ... he was definately a few sandwiches short of a picnic. As he turned and sprinted for his life I noticed he had a crossbow and a quiver of arrows on his back :eek: :eek: :eek: I'm glad he had the common sense to turn and run, 'cos there's no doubt if he'd taken even one tiny step towards the playground our kids.... She'd have attacked. Once he was out of site, she turn around and went back to the playground and layed down in the shade beside the kids again :confused: :confused:

Dogs like this never live long enough, and it's heart breaking when they die... gentle giants never live long :(

seeya,
Shane L.

rotty x ridgies are wonderful dogs. one of mine is this mix. hes rotty coloured and furred, but tall and leggy and has the ridge and the most sensational tail. he is so loyal and clever too. had an abusive ex go for me and he was right there in the blink of an eye to my defense. as well when adog went to attack me, he was right there again! cant he has just turned 9. ive had him since 12 weeks old. i hope hes around for a long time to come yet. cannot imagine life without him.

[mike123]

We had to the same decision to make and chose a Collie dog (aka Lassie and not Border Collie). They are intelligent, good temperament, good around kids, won't rip up the back yard and good on the land. Grooming is the down side but 5-10 minutes a day keeps the coat looking good. Training will be important no matter which dog you choose.

[loanrangie]

English Staffie, brilliant with kids.

Baz.

Yep, you wont find a more loving or loyal dog than a Staffie.
My kids could sit on ours and pull his tail and ears and he wouldnt blink, happy to stay by your side (or sit on your lap) where ever you may be.

[laney]

King charles cavalear have one of these's lovely little dog my dad worked in local laws in my home town of Warrnambool he always said if a Lab turns nasty they would put any other dog to shame. You think cavs are dopey Ialso own a bullmastiff staghound cross ate all my chillies the 15 year old rose bush and tryed to bury the cav in the garden cav was not impressed. dog dug the hole and tryed to drag cav into hole by the tail.

[jimr1]

Looking to get a puppy for my kids.

Have short listed Cocker Spaniel, Labrador and Golden Retriever breeds as they seem to be most family friendly for younger kids. Most likely will be a Cocker due to size and being a bit more cuddly. Constant Grooming needs they big downside.

Had heard young lab's are often crazy and are reported as most frequent biters?

Any thoughts on these breeds (or others) as family dogs for family with younger kids?

Finally, Cockers are harder to come by and reasonably expensive, anyone know a good breeder in VIC?

We have a Spaniel cross poodle (Spoodle) , I think they even better than some of the full pedigree , not so strung . No good as a Gard dog would lick them the death ..

[rovercare]

What ever it is, don't bother unless you can spend time with it, alot of time, I take the corgi I have everywhere I go....although on the hot days she went on strike, she would work the morning and when I went home for lunch would refuse to some back to work for the arvo, haha

If noone is home 5 days a week, a dog is not seriously for you, they make awseome campanions if they are just that, if you think 2 hours a day company is enough, buy a cat

[scarry]

Springer Spaniel,fantastic with children and a great family dog.

But they do need a lot of exercise,particularly when young or they get bored and then chew everything.

Need clipping regularly,particularly if the weather is hot.

This breed also has very few health problems.

And if you want a pup,sorry,just sold all mine,last one goes on the weekend.
Had that many calls,could have sold them all twice....
.

[dullbird]

Now I dont want to be the party pooper here

I love poodle crosses but they are just that crosses they are not spoodles or labradoodles or cockapoos.

I ask you that if a poodle cross is what you go for or any other "designer breed" please please make a point of seeing the parents and or living arrangements.

because there are a lot of designer breeds out there that have come from puppy farms..I say designer because what ever the lastest craze is, is generally what gets bred because popular breeds mean big money.

poodle cross breeds usually have very fun loving active personalities and are a hoot thats why I really like them, they are chacters but can be a little nutty (in a fun way)

I don't think you would go wrong with many breeds as said before you train it right.

However there is one breed I would not over look for kindness and temperament and that is a golden retriever. I have NEVER come across one with a questionable temperament.

I will also advocate the pound, you can still get the breed you want at the pound too...and you may also be lucky enough to get a puppy in the breed you want it just depends on who long you want to wait and how lucky you are. some people forget about the pounds and shelters but its not just old unwanted dogs that fill them...puppies do too :)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

What ever it is, don't bother unless you can spend time with it, alot of time,----

------If noone is home 5 days a week, a dog is not seriously for you, they make awseome campanions if they are just that, if you think 2 hours a day company is enough, buy a cat


Best advice yet.
remember you are adding to your family.

[Chucaro]

I agree with Dullbird comments.
The pound (to rescue a dog) it is not the only option.
If you like a particular breed get in touch with the breeders association of that breed and put your name to rescue unwanted pets.
Some clubs do not offer that service but reputable breeders can help you.
For Golden Retriever look at this LINK (http://grr.org.au/)
there are some young dogs now ready for adoption (http://grr.org.au/current.htm)

Cheers

[davidsonsm]

Dave, whatever you decide I'd recommend pet insurance. Also remember the bigger the dog the bigger the poo's. And you gotta pick em up. Also biggrr dogs tend to have more hip problems. Health wise I reckon you can't beat a Heinz 57 varieties breed.

They're not a cheap hobby :D Love ours to death but she can be a pain with the barking - considering buying one of those electric shock collars. Brilliant with the bubs. Ours is one if those dogs that used to be described as a mutt but is now a designer breed (a sorry story of female domination).

Its a scnoodlier. There. I've confessed.

[Chucaro]

................- considering buying one of those electric shock collars. Brilliant with the bubs. ...............

:( I will never ever get one of those, dogs barking because it is their waay to communicate and a well trained dog will bark only when it does not get the attention of their masters.

[rb30gtr]

The most docile cuddly breed, perfect for kids, Bullmastiff.
The best medium to small sized dog for Kids, would be Pit Bull Terrier or Staffie

But they are NOT low maintenance dogs, and have to be a member of the family, not just a dog. And they MUST sleep/live inside (as all dogs should)

I lay in front of the TV cuddling my living teddy bear for hours every day, we do go for walks but that is a bit of a non event after about 200 meters as he gives up. He loves test cricket.

And as others have said, be very careful with breeders, blood lines and the breeding parents. Farming style practices of any breed are destroying dogs lives to push out multiple litters to sell 'designer' dogs to people who just don't get it.

And just remember no breed of dog is any more dangerous when born based on personality, it all comes down to how you bring up your new family member.

And to the last guy, I do not agree with your shock collar comment, please think very carefully about what you are considering to do there. Spend time with your dog, incorporate it into your family, and have it inside to join in with whatever you are doing, and it wont be outside barking. And big dogs only end up with hip problems because of the inbreeding, and over breeding. So check the breeders very carefully.

And rovercare, SPOT on mate! good comment, and so so true.

Give BDR (Big Dog Rescue)a call if you are interested, they rescue dogs and get them back on track if they have been miss treated and re introduce them to a normal poochy life, and are very strict on people they allow the dogs to go home with. They are incredible people.

[davidsonsm]

Calm down guys. I used the word considering. Every time the dog barks for no aparent reason, usually just at the moment when we've got the baby off to sleep.

We love our dog to death but treat it as a dog. It's not a human. All the trainers are very clear on the need for dogs to know who is boss.

[loanrangie]

What ever it is, don't bother unless you can spend time with it, alot of time, I take the corgi I have everywhere I go....although on the hot days she went on strike, she would work the morning and when I went home for lunch would refuse to some back to work for the arvo, haha

If noone is home 5 days a week, a dog is not seriously for you, they make awseome campanions if they are just that, if you think 2 hours a day company is enough, buy a cat

I agree, we take ours everywhere as they are part of the family as much as our kids are.
They sleep inside and have the run of the house while we are there and the laundry with their cosy beds when we arent - i even leave a light and a radio on if we are out for a while :)

I took my lab/staff for a drive yesterday in the Kombi, she loved it because she can sit in between the seats right next to my left leg :).

[Epic_Dragon]

i am always doing something with my dogs, sadly they live outside at the moment :( an ex that wouldnt let me have them inside, and now at my parents they cannot cmoe inside. but im always walking them, sitting with them, playing with them, taking them out :D id be lost without my pets and soon when i have own place again, they will be back to chilling with me inside too. ill just have to retrain them with my cats again i think.
speaking of dogs though my maremma has got a yucky wound on his foot that im off to clean and dress!

[DiscoMick]

Dogs need a place to call home. Ours both have kennels, which are outside, but under the shelter of a carport. They are quite happy to be outside during the day when we're at work, and have food and water. At night they can come in for a while if they want. Its important they have a place which is theirs alone, I reckon.

[JDNSW]

I agree, we take ours everywhere as they are part of the family as much as our kids are. ......

Just as a matter of interest - how do you manage this when it is illegal to either leave them in your car or to take them into probably most places you might be going (many shops, most shopping centres, all public transport, most parks, most public venues etc)?

Mine travels with me when it is practical, lives inside and has the run of the house when I can't take her, or stays with relatives, kennels, for periods longer than a day.

John

[Grumbles]

Dave, whatever you decide I'd recommend pet insurance.

Good idea but.........I have had medical and accident pet insurance on my dogs but in recent years the annual premium cost went through the roof with it just about doubling. I'm talking over $800.00 P.A. for one dog.

As a result I have dropped the medical cover but kept the accident cover combined with swapping insurance companies all of which has substantially lowered my annual policy cost to a tad under $300.00 P.A.

[bigdog]

id be wary of border collies too, they seem to have a closet aggressive side. the one here killed my pet sheep. and he is well trained and raised extremely well.

Not sure I entirely agree with that. We have two Border Collies who make fantastic family pets. They are absolutely great with the kids, other than they like to chase and heard the boys if they are running around in the yard so the boys get an occasional nip on the buttock or hip if the dogs are getting too into the games! The older one (bitch) has adopted my sons guinea pigs and 'mothers' them if they are out of their cages. The youngster (male) is still a pup and completely mad. We have trained them to get used to being handled when they are eating and we can take a bone or food away either of them without any drama's.

However I am sure there are big differences between farm bred collies and breader bred collies, particularly in temperament.

[bigdog]

What ever it is, don't bother unless you can spend time with it, alot of time.
If noone is home 5 days a week, a dog is not seriously for you, they make awseome campanions if they are just that, if you think 2 hours a day company is enough, buy a cat

On that note, and we are out of the house for a couple of days of the week, we have always had two dogs to keep each other company when we are not home. We have reomoved the pane of glass from the bottom of the back door (never replaced it after the kids broke it) and the dogs come and go as they wish.

I often get up in the middle of the night and the two of them are lying on the pavers outside, alert, on 'Possum Patrol' :) They will do a lap of the garden to inspect every tree occasionally, and then revert back to guard duty to make sure none of the little b'stards make it into the house !!!

[djam1]

You havent lived until you have owned a Roebourne Camp Dog
Shire of Roebourne | Site | Welcome (http://www.roebourne.wa.gov.au/)
Quite a bargain from the local SAFE office not particularly happy if the temperature is below 30 degrees C.
Will happily lay in the Sun on its back in 55 degree C heat.
Quite keen to watch what you are cooking by standing up to the stove and bench.
Must sit on your lap if you are watching television this is particularly important if it has been rolling in something particularly dead and foul.
Doesn't like anyone in the house yelling.
Great birth control agent as 2 humans must never touch without it being between them.
Will bite small Children if they are particularly annoying thus teaching valuable life skills.
Can jump over 6 foot fences with ease even though it is only knee high this is particularly useful for keeping the lizard population to a minimum

[Gooner]

[QUOTE=dullbird;2072589]
poodle cross breeds usually have very fun loving active personalities and are a hoot thats why I really like them, they are characters but can be a little nutty (in a fun way).
snip

You just described our two poodle crosses beautifully.
They're sisters, they're inseperable, they're nutty but smart and they are as different as chalk and cheese.

Our pups came from my wife's sister, so we were fortunate to already know their parents.
I agree, avoid puppy farms and check the pounds and rescue centers.

[Baggy]

There's plenty of excellent advise given by everyone and the choice comes down to doing your homework on the breed (if your after a specific one) who you are purchasing it from and the size that suits your home.

As others have stated check out the dog shelters, pounds and alike as there are some really lovely dogs to be found .......pitty about their owners and unfortunately they (the dogs) don't get a choose their owner.

I'm a firm believer after my current staffy rescued from a shelter is that all dog owners need to be properly screened to own a dog (or any animal) for that matter.......the physical abuse my dog had taken (to nose, missing lower teeth and back) just begs disbelief.

Three year on with love and care she's a lovely family dog, not many would have taken her on as she was 6 years (young) then and too old by most especially with the current cost of vet bills ......but could'nt leave her there (she was a long term resident)

Don't discount the excellent comment the bigger the dog the bigger the poo's.....and believe me they do more than one per day and no matter what the misses says you'll end up having to deal with it :D

Hope you find the dog that ticks all your boxes ......and they are mans best friend

Cheers

Baggy

[Modelsp]

I have LABRADOODLES Mum&Dad. she loves having Puppies but only allowed 1 litter per year until she's 5yrs,now 2 1/2yrs,they are non shedding ,non allergenic,and also have the run of the house even to who gets the best spot on my bed at night.easily trained but goofy until 18 months and super smart,mine have the curly poodle fur and are shorn 3 times a year.
attached foto's of Mum/Dad & some of Puppies.
there is also a Cavoodle which is about the same size as a miniature poodle & they are a good >>Excellent family pet.
Oh and the Lab Gene makes them Looove water.
cheers
Paul

[loanrangie]

Just as a matter of interest - how do you manage this when it is illegal to either leave them in your car or to take them into probably most places you might be going (many shops, most shopping centres, all public transport, most parks, most public venues etc)?

Mine travels with me when it is practical, lives inside and has the run of the house when I can't take her, or stays with relatives, kennels, for periods longer than a day.

John

Not literally everywhere, i never leave them in the car unless someone is with them - if we go on holidays we take the dogs.

[Baggy]

Here's a photo of our Tess ...her muzzle and nose has taken a bit of battering by some Ba*%@#+

This was taken not long after we got her .....Tess adores my wife and its taken a long time for her to trust males but that normal Staffy nature is finally returning :D

Baggy

[scarry]

Don't discount the excellent comment the bigger the dog the bigger the poo's.....and believe me they do more than one per day and no matter what the misses says you'll end up having to deal with it :D


And if you feed them the real cheap dog biscuits with lots of fibre in it,they will produce lots of it:(

The medium priced dog food will have half the fibre of the cheap stuff.

[dullbird]

Just as a matter of interest - how do you manage this when it is illegal to either leave them in your car or to take them into probably most places you might be going (many shops, most shopping centres, all public transport, most parks, most public venues etc)?

Mine travels with me when it is practical, lives inside and has the run of the house when I can't take her, or stays with relatives, kennels, for periods longer than a day.

John

John its not illegal to leave a dog in the car in NSW :)

However it is illegal to expose an animal to excessive heat...so if someone leaves their dog in a car on a hot day they need to be prepared to have their car window smashed and the likely hood of at least a fine and potentially prosecution.

it only takes 6 mins for a dog to die in a hot car..and they can still die even if you have a window slightly cracked. The moral of the story is avoid leaving a dog in the car during hot periods in fact avoid travelling the dog as much as possible in hot periods....so many people have be caught with the "I only ran in for a paper etc" don't realise that stopping for the bank machine didn't take the 2mins like they thought but the 10 mins once the person in front had used it...excuses like this just do not cut the mustard when it comes to a dog lying in the boot of a car with all its vitals shutting down one by one. having seizures and then dying.

[Piddler]

Well I am biased if you get them from a Puppy and you want a busy active dog that loves a job and looks after his people and possessions you cant go past an Australian Cattle Dog.

The attached pic is our boy sleeping one morning last week. totally relaxed.

Cheers

[Piddler]

Attached is another of the boy but in the garden. They are mini agapanthas not full size he is not that large. He is a solid boy though and very active, we live on 6 acres and run 5 days a week. He loves a job.
Cheers

[bigdog]

Daisy & Beau

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/01/221.jpg

[JDNSW]

John its not illegal to leave a dog in the car in NSW :)

.....

I may be mistaken, but I am under the impression that in NSW it is specifically illegal to leave a dog in a closed car, regardless of weather conditions. I believe the law was changed around ten or fifteen years ago, as previously we did carry the dog with us in reasonable weather, taking advantage of the 110's vent flaps and a dog proof grille on one of the rear sliding windows, but stopped this practice when the law changed.

I have not, however, looked at the actual wording of the law.

John

[Chucaro]

I may be mistaken, but I am under the impression that in NSW it is specifically illegal to leave a dog in a closed car, regardless of weather conditions. I believe the law was changed around ten or fifteen years ago, as previously we did carry the dog with us in reasonable weather, taking advantage of the 110's vent flaps and a dog proof grille on one of the rear sliding windows, but stopped this practice when the law changed.

I have not, however, looked at the actual wording of the law.

John

Have a look HERE (https://www.lawsociety.com.au/cs/groups/public/documents/internetyounglawyers/420246.pdf) John.
As far as I know it is cruelty expose the animal to severe heat or cold but I cannot see what will be the difference in leaving the dog in a well ventilated vehicle to leave them in a dog trailer.

[dullbird]

I may be mistaken,
but I am under the impression that in NSW it is specifically illegal to leave a dog in a closed car, regardless of weather conditions. I believe the law was changed around ten or fifteen years ago, as previously we did carry the dog with us in reasonable weather, taking advantage of the 110's vent flaps and a dog proof grille on one of the rear sliding windows, but stopped this practice when the law changed.

I have not, however, looked at the actual wording of the law.

John


I dont think so :) but feel free to point me in the direction of this specific law

[1976_michelle]

mongrel bred rescue dog. each and every time for me. Esp from the smaller rescues that foster them out and so know them better and how they interact with other dogs and cats and kids, than the rspca dogs

[beagleONE]

our two are mongrel breed rescues as well.
both are a bull terrier cross, with something something something as well :D hahaha. weve got two cats, have mates with kids and they have been fine with all.

a smaller dog if you have smaller kids will be a good option. mid/big dogs will bowl a little kid straight over with out even trying.


its all in the training, and maintaining of the dog.
keep the dog well exercised, take them to training, socialise them as much as possible (if you get a puppy rescue) and you will be fine.




oh and two dogs = three times the poop.
i dont know how, it just does.

[Homestar]

Ours are all rescues too - 1 Greyhound - best couch potato you have ever seen, and our 2 Pugs.:)

[London Boy]

Daisy & Beau

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/bigdog-albums-home-picture4664-daisy-beau.jpg
Gorgeous dogs. They remind me of mine when he was young and pretty, instead of old and grey.

[twitchy]

We have big dogs ( bull arab x American bulldog )with our kids & don't trust the littlw yappy things. Never owned a lab but my cousins black lab was always a great dog.

[bidds]

We waited until our youngest child was 4 to get our first family dog. We both grew up with various dogs but our choice this time around was a Doberman.

We wanted an inside-the-house dog so shedding and grooming were an issue: the Dobe has a thin, single coat that stays the same year round and low skin oil so it doesn't get that real 'doggie' smell. Their coat is beautiful and I only wash them a few times a year.

Despite their appearance (to some - I think they're beautiful), they've been trained to know their place and are happiest when they're with their family - truly intelligent, loving dogs. We have lots of kids of all ages visiting and playing with them and there's never been a problem - though I follow the 'never unattended' rule with the little ones (it's simply the right thing to do).

I ride mountain bikes a lot and their athleticism is brilliant - they love running along behind/beside me on the bike and can do 20km and be keen for more. They're just as happy to plod along on a walk. With a walk/run in the morning (a good thing for all of us) they're happy to chill the rest of the day.

And of course, they're brilliant guard dogs. Relaxed but have a deep, resonant 'rack-off' woof to alert me of strangers, without being annoying.

The rescue dog thing can go either way: getting a rescue allows you to see what the dog is like and select a good fit. However, a puppy can be moulded (to a large degree IMO) to fit into more situations through taking them everywhere when they're young. One of ours was a rescue and there are some things he'll never be happy with; love him to bits though.

[mike_beecham]

We have a pure Kelpie and Border Collie. Both great with kids. Gentle. They are however, very well trained etc. They come with me to work (school agricultural teacher).

Never had a problem. I grew up with Blue/Red Heelers. Doesn't matter what the breed is - dogs should never be left with a child alone.

[meldrew]

No dog is perfect, and I think many dogs could suit your needs. Very important which ever breed you choose that it is with its people as often as possible. You will have a much better dog that way. I have had many breeds over my life, and have to say that the most amazing and surprisingly lovable breed, is a Boxer. Lovely with children and look the part as a deterrent. Short coat, easy to live with.

[UncleHo]

We have had dogs since the early 70's and pure Aust Cattle Dogs from 75-until our last one died in 2001,and Border Collies since 94,we currently have 5 and the house chocolate mini poodle,our daughter grew up with the ACD's from from age 2.5yrs, and to see a child dress up a 10 week old cattle dog pup in doll's clothes and wheel them around the yard in a dolls pram is hilarious, in later years we had no problem leaving her in the car by herself (8-11) with a dog for company while we did the grocery shopping,nobody hassled her :D and they were a great judge of boyfriends during her high school years, if the dog didn't like them she only went with them once ;)

We started to change over to Border Collies (chocolate) in 94 as we are involved in Obedience training and trialling,my wife has been an instructor at our local dog club for 21 years now (all breeds) ,and thoroughly enjoys it. every Monday and Wednesday evening

[Ratel10mm]

We have a Labradoodle from Cloudcatcher. At the time they were certainly one of the best breeders of the cross.
Ruby has been a brilliant family dog. She gets bored easily & likes lots of exercise. Loves to chase birds, especially seagulls. I guess that's the gun dog in her.
She has snapped at our son once, when he was crawling & decided her eyelids were a pull toy. Didn't come close to connecting, and he seems to have learnt his lesson as he didn't try that again. What she'll tolerate from him is quite amazing at times.
She's always allowed us to take her food, just gives you a sad look. I make a big point of eating before her, stepping over her or shoving her out of the way, etc. As a result, she listens to me more than the wife, who isn't really used to dogs & is way too soft with her, making the mistake of anthropomorphising her.
Ruby is a medium, so she's about the size of a Cocker or Springer.
Cloudcatcher are pretty careful with their breeding, and the breeding dogs & bitched live in care homes, not kennels or a puppy farm (Ruby was a breeder). The system is hat they live with you as your pet, but remain legally the property of the breeder until they've fulfilled their breeding contract. It seems to work pretty well, except that your bitch will be away for up to 6 weeks to have her puppies & wean them. Although you can visit her & the pups, it does leave a big hole in your life.

[gusthedog]

Greyhounds are supposed to be awesome pets and really good with kids. The only thing for us is that they can't be taken off lead in public and can't live out side at night which would not work in our tiny house! If you get a retrained racing one you are saving a doggies life too :)

http://gap.grv.org.au

[Homestar]

Greyhounds are supposed to be awesome pets and really good with kids. The only thing for us is that they can't be taken off lead in public and can't live out side at night which would not work in our tiny house! If you get a retrained racing one you are saving a doggies life too :)

GAP >> GRV Clubs > Home (http://gap.grv.org.au)


They are - we have had a couple of greyhound rescues now. Very good temprement uunless you're small and fluffy, then you may be in trouble...:D Yes, if you take them off the lead, you won't see them again, and they need to be kept warm, so inside is better for them at night, and an assortment of coats for the Winter is a must. Well worth it though. On the plus side, they don't have a lot of doogy smell, and don't need baths as often as most. They are happy to lie on the couch, floor, bed - anywhere they can and gt cuddles all day.

Great dogs.:)

[rovercare]

Dude in town here has 7 greyhounds, they are great companions, relatively hassle free, but they do need exercise and it beats the poor buggers being killed

2 dogs I have now are rescues, the corgi from the RSPCA and the boxer....which is really good for a boxer, but its still a knucklehead as it is a boxer:D....was from some people who thought that they would keep it couped up in a unit court yard then whinge is its "to much to handle" at 8 months old:eek: people are stoopid, who buys a boxer pup and thinks that a courtyard and no attention will make a good dog:mad:

[Chucaro]

Dude in town here has 7 greyhounds, they are great companions, relatively hassle free, but they do need exercise and it beats the poor buggers being killed

2 dogs I have now are rescues, the corgi from the RSPCA and the boxer....which is really good for a boxer, but its still a knucklehead as it is a boxer:D....was from some people who thought that they would keep it couped up in a unit court yard then whinge is its "to much to handle" at 8 months old:eek: people are stoopid, who buys a boxer pup and thinks that a courtyard and no attention will make a good dog:mad:

It does matter with breed of dog you have, they all need company and attention. Some people do not deserve to have a dog, perhaps they can get a lizard as a pet, then again better not.
Have a plastic one will be the solution.

[Homestar]

For those th want to know more about adopting Greyhounds as pets - GAP >> GRV Clubs > Home (http://gap.grv.org.au/) :)

[richard4u2]

as an x postie I have been bitten 4 times from little poodle type things to an Alsatian all the dogs were in front of their home the Alsatian went through a flywire door to get me at the letter box in front of his house that house had 2 kids one about 3 another a baby

[dullbird]

as an x postie I have been bitten 4 times from little poodle type things to an Alsatian all the dogs were in front of their home the Alsatian went through a flywire door to get me at the letter box in front of his house that house had 2 kids one about 3 another a baby

Sorry Richard but other than you unfortunately being bitten that means nothing to me other than the dog protecting its property from an intruder.

Just because you were bitten does not mean the dog will rip the family apart..that dog was probably under the impression you were going to rip the family apart.

[DoubleChevron]

Sorry Richard but other than you unfortunately being bitten that means nothing to me other than the dog protecting its property from an intruder.

Just because you were bitten does not mean the dog will rip the family apart..that dog was probably under the impression you were going to rip the family apart.

Nah dogs love posties .... Posties torment them day in and day out by riding past .... and not being able to chase them.... The day they get out (especially cattle dogs) will chase them to the next state ... just for fun. Nipping at there ankles the entire way :D

seeya,
Shane L.

[richard4u2]

Sorry Richard but other than you unfortunately being bitten that means nothing to me other than the dog protecting its property from an intruder.

Just because you were bitten does not mean the dog will rip the family apart..that dog was probably under the impression you were going to rip the family apart.
so what happens if they have visitors ?

[Homestar]

so what happens if they have visitors ?

Visitors are generally not a problem because the owners know, and are interacting with the visitors. Once a dog understands you aren't a threat to the family, they will soon become your friend. I have been in that position when going to a friends place for the first time. He said no one would hear the front door as they would be out the back and to just go through the side gate when I got there. They failed to inform me that thier German Sheppard was rather protective, and he soon had me bailed up in the corner - and I'm not scared of dogs. My mate came around the corner to see what the fuss was, called the dog off, and it was like he was my best mate 1/2 an hour later.

Thier just doing what they do.:)

[chuck]

Mate of mine is in hospital after a Labrador attacked him whilst walking his dog on the footpath out the front of the house.
Tore a chunk of flesh out of his calf & has been in hospital for three weeks so far.

We recently lost our Maremma at 13 years of age & as he was not that good with the grandchildren we researched a new dog with our highest priority being children safety.

The Newfoundland comes out as one of the best dogs with kids & family.

We now have had a newfoundland for approximately 3 months and she is great.

[Dougal]

German Shepherds are a lottery.
Some are extremely smart, others are soo dumb they'll try to jump into the wrong end of your ute.:o

[DiscoMick]

We had a newfie and he was lovely, but they only have a short life. Ours choked on a bone.

As I mentioned previously, I'm impressed with the daughter in laws new beagle - a lovely, fun dog and not aggressive at all.

But as others have said, dogs are social animals and need attention.

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[Chucaro]

Today I am going to see a 2years old Golden Retriever.She is champion and I would have her from the dog breeder, She will have a litter this year and one after 18 months after the first litter. The puppies will be belong to the breeder but I do not have to pay more than $2000 for the dog.
On the top of that the dog will be groomed free of charge when need it :)
If all is going ok I would post photos, I am very exited :D

[Dougal]

Today I am going to see a 2years old Golden Retriever.She is champion and I would have her from the dog breeder, She will have a litter this year and one after 18 months after the first litter. The puppies will be belong to the breeder but I do not have to pay more than $2000 for the dog.
On the top of that the dog will be groomed free of charge when need it :)
If all is going ok I would post photos, I am very exited :D

That sounds like a great deal for the breeder.
Sell you a dog for a high price yet still get to breed from it.:eek:

[Chucaro]

That sounds like a great deal for the breeder.
Sell you a dog for a high price yet still get to breed from it.:eek:

I think that I have expressed myself wrong, I do not have to pay one cent for a dog that costs $2000 or more :)
Also free vet cost for the first 2 years and she have the fool shots, Once the she have the litters the breeder pay of desexing as well.

[Dougal]

I think that I have expressed myself wrong, I do not have to pay one cent for a dog that costs $2000 or more :)
Also free vet cost for the first 2 years and she have the fool shots, Once the she have the litters the breeder pay of desexing as well.

That sounds much better. I thought you were happy at getting the dog for $2000 and not paying more.

[CraigE]

Most dogs are generally good, it mostly depends on how they are treated and brought up.
Staffordshires are fantastic family dogs, I have one now and have had 3.
Labs are great dogs had one as a kid.
The problem with the smaller dogs is that they often nip and people dont take this seriously as a bite, when they should be.
Whatever you choose I am sure you will be happy.
Do a bit of research into genetic problems first.

[chuck]

Whatever dog you get be careful of their vaccines.

Our Newfoundland developed a severe allergic reaction to her 3rd needle.

Further research and tests indicate she already had the immunity she required thru selective & responsible breeding.

For her next needles we have been told to blood test her first to check on her "immunity status" prior to routine vaccination.

[VladTepes]

Staffy.
They are great dogs and fantastic with kids.

I have a Staffy x Bull Arab and she is a wonderful gentle dog just LOVES people. Not so much little yappy dogs, but LOVES people.... and very submissive. She has NEVER attacked or bitten anyone.



Naturally one would not leave children alone with ANY dog at all. But a Staffy is as family oriented as they come and LOVES people....

Yep Labs can be snappy and WILL eat anyuthing they can get their teeth on from food to shoes etc.

[dullbird]

Whatever dog you get be careful of their vaccines.

Our Newfoundland developed a severe allergic reaction to her 3rd needle.

Further research and tests indicate she already had the immunity she required thru selective & responsible breeding.

For her next needles we have been told to blood test her first to check on her "immunity status" prior to routine vaccination.


That's interesting, never heard that before

Can i ask, Immunity to what? as you don't vaccinate just for one thing.

[Chucaro]

Whatever dog you get be careful of their vaccines.

Our Newfoundland developed a severe allergic reaction to her 3rd needle.

Further research and tests indicate she already had the immunity she required thru selective & responsible breeding.

For her next needles we have been told to blood test her first to check on her "immunity status" prior to routine vaccination.

Today I was talking with a very experienced and reputable breeder who also is an international judge.
She told me that she vaccine the dogs every 3 years because the blood test shows that the dogs have the antibodies for more that 2 years or more.

[chuck]

I believe the needle was the 12 week C5 vaccination.

The response to the needle was a steroid responsive auto immune meningitis.

Thankfully she will make a full recovery.

Had to happen while we were 500km away and our daughter was looking after her.

[dullbird]

I must admit I'm curious to know how the dog won't get parvo virus or distemper due to the selective and careful breeding though

Parvo virus is not hereditary?

Understand your concern for the reaction to the vaccine quite rightly so

For what its worth my dogs have the vaccine that is 3 yearly anyway

[chuck]

Not quite sure yet may be she will have to separate vaccines.

The vet seemed to think kennel cough was more of an issue if not vaccinated against although he did say that wont kill her.

Guess we will find out at 12 months.

[Epic_Dragon]

that is crazy chuck, glad shes making a full recovery though. thatis a really unlucky thing to occur.

i did not know that parvo was being bred out either. i thought that they got that from the ground some how. unless its from years of vaccinations that new generations are developing their own resistance and antibodies to it. i guess that could happen? evolution style. lol! sorry if someone already said that, i have so many blank posts on my screen thanks to silly slow internet! its almost unusable after using all my monthly gbs! and nothing loads!!

[DT-P38]

Drumroll please....

We finally went with a Standard Schnauzer for our first ever family dog.

The choice has been finalised the breeder found and we visited the mother, father and 8 puppies (7 bitches and 1 dog just 2 Weeks Old) last weekend. We also got to meet the poor humans that have to attend to the needs of the young family, lovely folk with great sensibilities about how to raise and train and look after this breed.

Given the decision is made, no negative comments on the breed now please. We are in for a penny, in for a pound (err... dollar), so what will be will be from here on in. In saying that, thanks heaps for all the advice on breeds, training, insurance,etc. it prompted a lot of thought and subsequent plans for when we finally pick up our little bitch in a couple of months.

And here is a few photo's to share as a (sort of?!?) thank you to all the dog loving contributors! Head shot is the dad, full one the mum. Will try and put some puppy shots up off my phone soon.

[Dougal]

Excellent choice. Not from klaubauter kennels by any chance?

[DT-P38]

Excellent choice. Not from klaubauter kennels by any chance?

No. A reasonably new breeding team down in Gippsland. Can't even remember their name off hand... if you are interested, I will PM it when I find it.

This is their first litter of Standards (they have had mini's before) although they have been in and around the dog game for 20 years in QLD. The pup's were born on Australia Day and I believe they have strong ties to VIC's top Standard breeders/Show Kennels (who actually recommended this breeder to us). We have been told the blood lines are mostly from strong local and imported (Russian and English) backgrounds and are solid from all angles. The parents are certainly good looking (to my untrained eye) and very calm and well mannered young (prime) animals.

FWIW, there is a Schnauzer breed championship on in 6 weeks down on the Mornington Peninsula and we are going to drop in and see "who's who in the Schnauzer zoo" and watch how they all "stack up" (doggy show term I learned on the weekend!). My Aunt used to breed and show German Shepard's, so I know what to expect, but it should be good for the kids to see how the world of champions works!

In saying all that it is not our intent to breed or show dogs. I only have time and motivation to show (or breed?) one sort of pet and that is my Landies! At this point, they seem to be doing more breeding than showing too... every time I turn around another one arrives into the pride. HA-HA!!! Pepper (best name the kid's have come up with to date) will be pedigree papered but on a restricted level and will remain a family pet, companion and protector. Mrs or myself will definitely be doing obedience school, and the kids are a little interested in obstacle course training (is that the right term?). But we will wait to see what comes of that!

For now its just relax and keep an eye out to see how the litter comes along. 2 weeks is very young and we have a couple of months until the breeder is happy to take their pick(s) of the litter and then let customers select from the remainder. Hopefully she picks us too. I believe we have 5th selection so, barring a catastrophe, we should get Pepper just in time to settle her into the family before heading off to Melrose. Fingers crossed.

[incisor]

nice dogs....

you'll really enjoy having one of them.

[Dougal]

No. A reasonably new breeding team down in Gippsland. Can't even remember their name off hand... if you are interested, I will PM it when I find it.

Please do. We are looking for a breeding female to keep ours company. Mine came from Klaubauter in Queensland. None of the NZ breeders would sell me a dog with a tail.:(
Zorba Calvera http://www.grandcalvera.cz/zorba.html is my dogs father. So it'd be a shame not to breed from him.

Let me know if you need any Schnauzer puppy behaviour tips. A water squirt bottle is a must and chew toys too.
Your kids will love her. They are endlessly trainable, but you need motivators (treats). Unlike other dogs they won't work for affection alone.[/QUOTE]

[Chucaro]

Beautiful dogs Dave, they are smart buggers!
I have a friend that have a male called Johny for John Howard's eye brows :D

[1976_michelle]

I'd go rescue mutt personally (one from a foster where they've had a chance to get to know the dog and how it interacts with family and pets)/ something medium sized, a bit placid but with some play in
But otherwise, Lab. THere are possibly more reports of lab bites simply because there are so many more labs - I think you would find percentage wise their rate of bites would be modest. They are bimbo slow maturing puppies though lol