Compliance Plates

[101RRS]

One of my vehicles doesn't have a compliance plate when it should have - there is no evidence of it ever been fitted. How do I go about getting a replacement?

The vehicle has been continuously registered in various states for its entire life.

Thanks

Garry

[chopper]

How old is it ?
If it never had one, then getting one wouldn't be a replacement.
Why do you want one now ?
What State are you talking about ?
***Ask your local transport authority.***
If it has a VIN and that number appears on previous papers then it should be OK.

[UncleHo]

If the vehicle was manufactured prior to 1st January 1972 then it would not have a compliance plate, they came into force on 1/1/1972,so if you can trace the vehicles manufacture date to before 1/1/72 then it will not have a Compliance Plate,are we talking Series Landies or an early 101 ? ;)

cheers

[101RRS]

Thanks for the comments but as mentioned in my original post it should have a compliance plate as it was manufactured in Aust after compliance plates came in so should have one applied when made.

Having a compliance plate just makes things easier when you change registration jurisdictions as the standard question is - where is the compliance plate.

Not such an issue when getting roadworthies at garages but if you have to go over the pits bureaucracys get involved :(.

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I don't believe that you can acquire a replacement compliance plate. The plates are affixed by the vehicle's manufacturer and you can bet they wouldn't be interested in certifying that an old vehicle still complies with the specifications at manufacture.

[101RRS]

I don't believe that you can acquire a replacement compliance plate. The plates are affixed by the vehicle's manufacturer and you can bet they wouldn't be interested in certifying that an old vehicle still complies with the specifications at manufacture.

Thanks Diana - Very possibly so, but the things are only pop rivetted on and bi metallic corrosion sets in and they can fall off - I had to re-poprivet on the compliance plate on my old series 3, 25 years ago and at that time the vehicle was only 17 years old - would have fallen off at the next big bump when offroad.

Like wise what happens in accidents where a vehicle is not written off but the area where the compliance plate is affixed is destroyed along with the compliance plate - surely they can get new ones. maybe I should go and ask a smash repairer what they do.

Cheers

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Which vehicle is it?

[101RRS]

Which vehicle is it?

Its a secret :o - does it matter?

My Haflinger, but then with the exception of the RRS none of my vehicles have a compliance plate but the others all have good reason for this - but then I do not know why the 101s don't have compliance plate as the Perenties which only came into service a few years later do.

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Garry

Its sometimes a slippery slope, one of the regulations regarding Written Off Vehicles (WOVR) in NSW is that the repairer or custodian of the vehicle is supposed to strike out the chassis number/VIN on the compliance plate by a chisel strike through the number. Not that everyone actually does it, but getting a replacement compliance plate would circumvent the WOVR.

cookey is doing work on a SIII 6cyl engine at the moment. When the owner purchased the vehicle it came without previous rego papers and it had no compliance plate. (may be a thread about it) Anyway the previous owner was contacted and found the compliance in the grass where he had pressure washed the vehicle before putting it on ebay. Very lucky.

Diana

[rangietragic]

My series 3 never had a compliance plate,72 or 3 from memory.Also my first rangie never had one,i thought it was a 76 but probably earlier.

[FenianEel]

You can never get a replacement compliance plate unfortunately. Don't lose your paperwork. If you've got evidence of continuous or even past ergo, you will be ok.

[101RRS]

You can never get a replacement compliance plate unfortunately. Don't lose your paperwork. If you've got evidence of continuous or even past ergo, you will be ok.

Unfortunately that is not the case - in QLD. A contact of mine is having this issue - Qld rego will not rego an Aussie made Haffie that has current Vic rego as it does not have a compliance plate when it should.

Hence the question, as in theory the same could happen with my vehicle in the future if it were to move to Qld and if possible I would like to rectify that if I am able.

Cheers

Garry

[TonyC]

Hi Garry,
For what it's worth my Haffy doesn't have one either.

Tony

[Mick_Marsh]

Unfortunately that is not the case - in QLD. A contact of mine is having this issue - Qld rego will not rego an Aussie made Haffie that has current Vic rego as it does not have a compliance plate when it should.

Hence the question, as in theory the same could happen with my vehicle in the future if it were to move to Qld and if possible I would like to rectify that if I am able.

Cheers

Garry
You'll have to give it to me, then.

What is it's manufacturing date on the data plate?

[101RRS]

Hi Garry,
For what it's worth my Haffy doesn't have one either.

Tony

Tony - what is yours build date?


What is it's manufacturing date on the data plate?

June 73

[Mick_Marsh]

June 73
Bugger!

[TonyC]

Tony - what is yours build date?
According to Vicroads "1970 because it doesn't have a compliance plate" :angel:

I believe it's a 74.

Tony

[101RRS]

According to Vicroads "1970 because it doesn't have a compliance plate" :angel:

I believe it's a 74.

Tony

I am finding this is quite common with many different brands of vehicles built in Aust around that time - many vehicles that should have had compliance plates, don't, but registration authorities don't seem to realise this and say all vehicles had compliance plates from the date they were introduced.

Tony, if you do not have it you should get the Wagenstammkarte (build sheet) for your vehicle as it will give you full details of the build of your vehicle. Haflinger Technik in Scotland have them and will email you a copy for about $40.

Garry

[UncleHo]

G'day Folks :)

I can't lay my hands on my loose ADR (Compliance)plate at the moment, but I do know it is stamped something like this,"this vehicle is built to comply with ADR 27a *****(Australian Design Rules) by GMH/Ford/Leyland, these plates apply to Australian built/assembled vehicles, completely built up vehicles, or imported vehicles would not have a compliance plate, at least not in the early years of them, the Perentie was an Australian conceived and built vehicle so hense an ADR plate, my 1980 Series 3 Lightweight FFR, has not got a compliance plate as it is an imported vehicle (Ex Brunei) but is registered in Qld and has been for some years,you should be able to get yours registered in Qld even if only on Historic Registration (must be a recognised vehicle club member) with that I can assist,as I am a member of the Qld Military Jeep Club,yes we take all ex military vehicles,we have one Pinz and a couple of early Unimogs, providing the vehicle is unmodified there should be no problem getting it registered in Qld and on historic rego (about $275 p/a for my 2a)

FOUND :my S3 compliance plate is as follows:
"This vehicle was manufactured by Leyland Motor Corporation of Australia to comply with Australian Design Rule No's 7-8
Land Rover 3 91304***A
12/72 GVW 5905lbs seating cap 3

This plate was fitted with the approval of the Australian Motor Vehicle Certification Board.

There you go :) just as it is stamped on my comp plate,stamped from behind so it has raised lettering they would also have a small 1x1.25 inch Pressed Metal Corp plate inside the cab on the firewall in front of the levers.

The Aust ADR's were to stop imported (grey imports) being registered in Aust with sub-standard brakes/lighting etc, E.G.dipping right not left,dull or over bright tail lights, incorrect glass (tinted) all this went out the door when large Japanese manufacturers stated "This is how we supply the world and You will get the same"

Note how dull(defused) the taillights of 70-80's cars were compared to current newer vehicles.;)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I think Uncle Ho's post (above) needs some clarification.

The compliance plate is affixed to vehicles built, assembled from kits or imported new and sold by the manufacturer. e.g. 2014 Land Rovers are built in the UK and imported by the manufacturer's local office (Land Rover Australia) and plated with the compliance plate.

Vehicles built in another country and imported individually by a specialist workshop under the RAWS are also plated with a "Used Import Plate" which is equivalent of the regular compliance plate. The third option is for vehicles owned by someone overseas for 12 months or more and then imported. These vehicles can be fitted with a Personal Import plate essentially the same as the compliance plate.

Lightweight Land Rovers were never assembled in Australia although Leyland Australia did bring in several for evaluation by the Army, none were sold new and therefore lightweights do not have compliance plates. Prior to the RAWS/SEVS scheme, private imports whether new or used were never plated and this is still the case for vehicles manufactured prior to 1st January 1989.

[UncleHo]

Queensland Transport is a class act of it's very own,and it often depends on which office (Customer Service Centre) and whom you see,my first attempt to transfer the Rego of my lightweight was questioned as to why it was registered at all, that officer (female) refused point blank to even believe it was a Land Rover at all, as it didn't look like either a Defender, Discovery, Range Rover or Evoque :mad: I had to get an Inspector to personally look at it and he then called the previous woman over and stated "what ever is on that plate record it, and the registered number, then it is transfer as usual"

Problem solved, it was also corrected from 1984 Diesel to 1980 Petrol :D as it had been listed as 84, so therefore the computer stated it was a diesel.

[V8Ian]

I bought an unregistered White prime mover; unknown sans compliant plate. I had to get a copy made AND AFFIXED by Kit Beasly; the owner of WMC records.

[TonyC]

I am finding this is quite common with many different brands of vehicles built in Aust around that time - many vehicles that should have had compliance plates, don't, but registration authorities don't seem to realise this and say all vehicles had compliance plates from the date they were introduced.

Tony, if you do not have it you should get the Wagenstammkarte (build sheet) for your vehicle as it will give you full details of the build of your vehicle. Haflinger Technik in Scotland have them and will email you a copy for about $40.

Garry

Hi Garry,
I do have a copy of my Haffy's "Birthday Papers" as Peter krumheuer refers to them as.

Tony

[Bigbjorn]

I bought an unregistered White prime mover; unknown sans compliant plate. I had to get a copy made AND AFFIXED by Kit Beasly; the owner of WMC records.

Kit Bleakely, formerly Chief Engineer White Motor Corporation of Australia.

[Bigbjorn]

Queensland Transport is a class act of it's very own,and it often depends on which office (Customer Service Centre) and whom you see,my first attempt to transfer the Rego of my lightweight was questioned as to why it was registered at all, that officer (female) refused point blank to even believe it was a Land Rover at all, as it didn't look like either a Defender, Discovery, Range Rover or Evoque :mad: I had to get an Inspector to personally look at it and he then called the previous woman over and stated "what ever is on that plate record it, and the registered number, then it is transfer as usual"

Problem solved, it was also corrected from 1984 Diesel to 1980 Petrol :D as it had been listed as 84, so therefore the computer stated it was a diesel.

Try registering a newly restored vintage/veteran car whose make does not appear on their data base. 23 year old female clerks with no knowledge of motor vehicles are the customer service officers.

[V8Ian]

Kit Bleakely, formerly Chief Engineer White Motor Corporation of Australia.

Yep Brian; a very cluey bloke; no matter how his name is spelt. :angel:

[FenianEel]

Here's a section from the Qld vehicle standards code of practice.

You can definately get it registered in Qld Garry, I've done it many times, on both sides of the counter. As Brian said, sometimes the pinhead behind the counter has no idea.

[101RRS]

You can definately get it registered in Qld Garry, I've done it many times, on both sides of the counter. As Brian said, sometimes the pinhead behind the counter has no idea.

I agree with the point about pinheads but in this case not the pinhead behind the counter - after the initial rejection was being handled by a pinhead in central office and via official correspondence - reasons given for rejection on paper to which a written response was provided refuting the issues with evidence - to which the department responded with a different bunch of reasons - down to just a couple of items including compliance plate so a win is on the horizon.