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Rosco
28th May 2004, 07:22 AM
Is there an issue with water entry to swivel housings??
Extended breather hoses for gearbox/diffs etc, but what about these housings? There doesn't appear to be breather hoses at all.
Anyone ever had an issue here?
Am I being paranoid? Hey ... who's that out there? Come out and show yourself !!
Phoenix
28th May 2004, 08:47 AM
mine are a little different to tours ad I have a series 3, but there isn't too many differnces.
I found that some water ingressed into one of my swivels, but this was due to a leaky seal, not any breather holse as I don't think that the swivels have any.
Putting a breather and breather extensions on a swivel would be somewhat difficult, and I suspect un neccessary. With good seals no water should get in at all.
discowhite
28th May 2004, 03:11 PM
I agree with phoenix,
good seals no water.
however i have seen photos of breathers fitted to
swivel housings. the filler bung at the top was removed
its center drilled and tapped to suit a small hose nipple
the bung fitted back in and some small plastic tube over the nipple.
ect ect.
food for thought
DW
Hellspawn
28th May 2004, 07:39 PM
In addition if your seals are going and can't justify pulling it all to bits, do away with oil and fill your hubs with grease. Moly grease would be the better rather than bearing grease. Might find they run quieter too, is better for them and probably find they don't leak as much.
I swapped because of crook seals and find they only need refilling once a year. I don't do that much swimming/wading but if you keep your hubs full of grease and have a breather on the diff can't see you'd have a problem.
Jay
UncleHo
29th May 2004, 07:08 PM
If the vehicle is a 2003 extreme there shouldn't be a problem as they have CVs and would therefore be fitted with grease, unless the front end is badly worn or it has high milage there should not be a problem with water ingress style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
Hellspawn
30th May 2004, 09:11 AM
Didn't realise it had IFS. So I'd agreed with Rocket in that case.
Rosco
30th May 2004, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by rocket
If the vehicle is a 2003 extreme there shouldn't be a problem as they have CVs and would therefore be fitted with grease, unless the front end is badly worn or it has high milage there should not be a problem with water ingress style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
Sure is, but no IFS. Far as I can tell 300ml of oil.
LandyAndy
30th May 2004, 12:34 PM
Hi Jay
The only problem with grease in a Series swivel is the top railko bush relies on being splash lubricated ,with grease this could be a problem if not filled higher than the standard fill height.When changing over to the Penrite Semi fluid grease last weekend I made sure I overfilled the swivels by quite a bit.
If you have free wheeling hubs on a Series its also important to lock the hubs regularly to make sure the railko bush is lubricated,I tend to leave mine locked around town and unlock them if travelling any reasonable distance.
Andrew
Pedro_The_Swift
30th May 2004, 08:25 PM
At the last service they replaced the diff oils because of water contamination,,
I do remember the amount of water we had driven through,
and I do remember the (British Off Road ) mechanic saying the swivels SUCK water in when hot.
I also remember the later models having seals to stop water/oil from traveling each way along the diff housing.
just wondering if this is relevant to your series problem,,,,
Hellspawn
31st May 2004, 06:10 PM
Andrew
What do you suggest is overfilled past the inspection plug on the back ? I thought maybe with grease filling right up was okay so the whole lot is encased, could be wrong, often am. Only say this as my seals are crook and fill them right to the top, wasn't aware of that bit needing lube though. Learnt something and I'll have a look next time I service to make sure of enough lubrication.
Tend to do the opposite, use low range around town quite a bit, especially dawdling along looking for somewhere legal to park. With the hubs locked makes getting in and out of parking spaces harder. Find if I lock them in before a belt down the highway the grease comes up to heat and bonds better. The amount of time around town for me is usually much less than hubs locked though. Usually lock them well before I need them if venturing.
Jay
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