WHAT WEIGHT ARE YOU CARRYING??

[voltron]

As I slowly add more and more accessories I am beggining to feel the added weight through the steering and the cars general handling. I was just wandering what weight you guys carry round with you every day. What do you take out when not in use, and what stays in the vehicle. I've just has a 45l fridge, slide and drawers put in,this seems to have had a notable impact on everyday driving and handling.

Cheers.

[n plus one]

As I slowly add more and more accessories I am beggining to feel the added weight through the steering and the cars general handling. I was just wandering what weight you guys carry round with you every day. What do you take out when not in use, and what stays in the vehicle. I've just has a 45l fridge, slide and drawers put in,this seems to have had a notable impact on everyday driving and handling.

Cheers.

600kg of stuff when 'empty', 1000kg at full load.

Only things that come out are driver and passenger, fridge, food, fuel (ie dont run around town with a full long range tank) and water (~100l).

Other than that it all stays in, occasionally I'll swap the second spare for a chainsaw and drag chain.

[voltron]

600kg of stuff when 'empty', 1000kg at full load.

Only things that come out are driver and passenger, fridge, food, fuel (ie dont run around town with a full long range tank) and water (~100l).

Other than that it all stays in, occasionally I'll swap the second spare for a chainsaw and drag chain.

I think the fridge probably should come out but because my job is of a sporting nature the fridge has become very handy and I'm liking having it keep my various sports drinks cold and available anytime.

[austastar]

Hi,
about 480kg camper, 200kg tray and bullbar, 80kg water and goodness knows what weight of other 'stuff' gets packed.

Still well under the 1700kg limit though.

cheers

[Trundle]

If it goes in or on my truck, it usually stays there. Don't like packing and unpacking, and most of it is specifically for the truck. Besides I don't usually plan to go anywhere, it just kind of happens, and this way I'm guaranteed to have everything I might need.

[ugu80]

'95 Defender 130 with roof top tent on custom frame over tub area, winch (steel rope), two spare tyres, 2nd battery, 60lt fridge, bull bar, snorkel, aluminium plating on bonnet and guards, exterior sun visor over windscreen......minus rear seats, some interior trim and sway bars. No aircon fitted. I've had it weighed, just on 2.3 tonne (2.4 with me in it).

[voltron]

If it goes in or on my truck, it usually stays there. Don't like packing and unpacking, and most of it is specifically for the truck. Besides I don't usually plan to go anywhere, it just kind of happens, and this way I'm guaranteed to have everything I might need.

That's how I'm thinking as well. With only a few specific things being put in or taken out.

[voltron]

'95 Defender 130 with roof top tent on custom frame over tub area, winch (steel rope), two spare tyres, 2nd battery, 60lt fridge, bull bar, snorkel, aluminium plating on bonnet and guards, exterior sun visor over windscreen......minus rear seats, some interior trim and sway bars. No aircon fitted. I've had it weighed, just on 2.3 tonne (2.4 with me in it).

That's close to what I'm carrying except I'm in a 110 and I have a rollcage instead of the tent with custom frame. I'm suprised your weight is so low, but I guess that's because it's a 130.

[ugu80]

That's close to what I'm carrying except I'm in a 110 and I have a rollcage instead of the tent with custom frame. I'm suprised your weight is so low, but I guess that's because it's a 130.

It's 250kgs over tare weight with about 25kgs stripped off the tare, so about 270kgs of gear. All I have to do is load water, food, sleeping bag, pillow and go.

[dawsey]

'95 Defender 130 with roof top tent on custom frame over tub area, winch (steel rope), two spare tyres, 2nd battery, 60lt fridge, bull bar, snorkel, aluminium plating on bonnet and guards, exterior sun visor over windscreen......minus rear seats, some interior trim and sway bars. No aircon fitted. I've had it weighed, just on 2.3 tonne (2.4 with me in it).

your a fat ****er!

[ugu80]

your a fat ****er!

Cartman - I'm not fat i'm big boned - YouTube

[weeds]

Just went over the weigh bridge at work....daily drive trim

2580
1180 front axle
1280 rear axle

Front bar
PTO winch
Bonnet mounted spare
50l water tank ~ 40l
Long range fuel tank ~40l
Fridge and draws
Roof rack
Aux battery
Awning

[bushrover]

In every day mode -

1260 front
1620 rear

Fully loaded with full tanks and Kayak on top -

1390 front
2000 rear


I still have to balance things better from side to side and move the water storage to the rear floor from over the rear axle.

Rick

[Iain_B]

I weighted mine before we went on a big trip.

Empty 2.8 tons ( Full 127lt tank of fuel, two passengers, drawers, tools, roll cage, roof rack, water tank ( empty) bull bar, winch, 2nd battery, inverter, fridge (empty), bash plates and under body armour, side and rear awnings, and 255/85s )

Full Loaded (RTT, spares, water (125lt) food, bedding, clothes, cameras, computers, cooking gear, solar panel, gas bottle, and "stuff" - around 3.3t tons

We added another 100kg of fuel and water on the Anne Beadell Track so we did not have to refuel on the 1350km long trip.

72252

Fronts springs are the standard Discovery TDi rear springs (brown/green) and rears are the OEM but with the Patrol air bag kit pumped up to 30psi when full loaded to keep it level, 10 psi when empty.

[voltron]

Thanks guys, this really givese an idea about the weights I am carrying.

Rick, I thought it would be better off having the weight over the axle as opposed to behind it?

[bushrover]

Thanks guys, this really givese an idea about the weights I am carrying.

Rick, I thought it would be better off having the weight over the axle as opposed to behind it?

Yeah, I see what you mean......................all in the interpretation:eek:

rear floor = rear passenger floor. I will remove the rear seats for extra storage and reduce weight as well.

Rick

[Tikka7mm08]

Weighed my Puma 90 with just me and 1 child in - 2020kg. Has Roof rack, winch/bar.

[Psimpson7]

My 90 weighs in at 2050 empty (full of fuel) that's with both winches, cage, etc etc but only on the 33's

[iClick]

Defender 130. Checked our weight on the way home our last trip. 3160kg (Two adults, two kids, 3/4 fuel, heavy canopy and really heavy roof top tent.. plus b/bar, winch etc..)

I was interested to see what we've been lugging prior to switching the canopy to a dual-cab Trayon. I expect to see some significant weight loss!

[ezyrama]

I don't know, I'm to scared to ask her!![FishSlap]

[voltron]

Yeah, I see what you mean......................all in the interpretation:eek:

rear floor = rear passenger floor. I will remove the rear seats for extra storage and reduce weight as well.

Rick

ah gotcha.;)

[voltron]

I don't know, I'm to scared to ask her!![FishSlap]

haha

[85 county]

2.6 tonne. all day everyday

Plus fule water and bodys, and what ever toys thay decide to bring with them.

fule i keep down just 50 bucks a fill but have 128ltrs, water empty but now can cary 100 ltrs

[n plus one]

2.6 tonne. all day everyday

Plus fule water and bodys, and what ever toys thay decide to bring with them.

fule i keep down just 50 bucks a fill but have 128ltrs, water empty but now can cary 100 ltrs

Thank god I'm not the only bugger who runs heavy!

I'm starting to question some of the other weights people reckon their vehicle is TBH - not sure blokes are actually using calibrated scales...

To the OP, if you've hit a winch, bulbar, driving lights, second battery, longrange tank, towbar, roofrack and a basic recovery kit you're already added 250kg to your truck.

Fuel and two occupants puts you up another 300kg, give or take.

Add camping gear, clothes, fridge and a second spare gets you at least another 150kg and you've still got nothing to:
a) eat;
b) drink; and
c): do basic repairs with.

Lets call it 100kg for that eh?

Storage drawer and a rear wheel carrier is another 100kg too. Side steps and a compressor are at least another 50kg.

That makes it a 950kg load by my count (plus a little extra for maps, UHFs, cargo barriers, gullwings, reversing lights, spare fluids and a RTT). Hmm looks like GVM to me...:D

[voltron]

Thank god I'm not the only bugger who runs heavy!

I'm starting to question some of the other weights people reckon their vehicle is TBH - not sure blokes are actually using calibrated scales...

To the OP, if you've hit a winch, bulbar, driving lights, second battery, longrange tank, towbar, roofrack and a basic recovery kit you're already added 250kg to your truck.

Fuel and two occupants puts you up another 300kg, give or take.

Add camping gear, clothes, fridge and a second spare gets you at least another 150kg and you've still got nothing to:
a) eat;
b) drink; and
c): do basic repairs with.

Lets call it 100kg for that eh?

Storage drawer and a rear wheel carrier is another 100kg too. Side steps and a compressor are at least another 50kg.

That makes it a 950kg load by my count (plus a little extra for maps, UHFs, cargo barriers, gullwings, reversing lights, spare fluids and a RTT). Hmm looks like GVM to me…:D

This is what motivated my post, the weight of some of the guys vehicles seems scary. When you read about people who like to find cavities to put extra accessories in and to avoid filling the load space to store more gear, but even if you manage to keep your loadspace empty, your truck is pretty dam heavy to begin with once it's fully accessorised. You cant really put that much more into the rig anyway, unless you are happy to go over GVM.

I think I'll just be happy to have the roof rack,fill the loadspace with gear and accessories and leave it at that.

Cheers

[weeds]

I think I'll just be happy to have the roof rack,fill the loadspace with gear and accessories and leave it at that.

Cheers

good chance you will be close or over GVM.........

I too wonder about weights stated........I have a certified weigh bridge which makes things easy

[voltron]

good chance you will be close or over GVM.........

I too wonder about weights stated........I have a certified weigh bridge which makes things easy

I have put my water tank, second battery, fridge and compressor into the load space with my home made drawer setup. This doesnt really leave me alot of room left which is good in my mind Add my wife and two little monkeys and the car feels pretty heavy and thats without the roof rack and all the camping gear, food and clothing etc.

I figure I would have to call BINGO on GVM.

[85 county]

ok a more complete list

all day every day
bull bar
rock sliders
i run 12.5X33X15, plus one on the back
spare wheel carrier
reinforced bonnett
skinny on the bonnett
air compresor
2Xn7 batterys
uhf radio speekers etc
water pump and plumbing

2 dome tents
all bedding blakets
shower tent and 12 shower thing
2 tarps
8 poles, axe shovel
big box of tent pegs rope mallett
Jack, tyer kit, wheel bearings, a set of rear axcles
radiator hoses cleamps, seals 5 ltrs oil
spaners, ring and opender set
socket set
plyers 3, plus circlip plyers
screw drivers, mulltymeter
fridge
2 burner lpg and 9 kg lpg bottle
1 butain burner
pots pans, eating stuff
toilet papaer gas cans, aero gard flyspray and sun block
2 kites, a cricet set, socerball, tball set. about 5 other balls

some tined food rice etc that lives in the 110

all equals 2.6 tonne. AND i am light when looking at some of the otheres i know

NB spelling, well its late and i dont care

[n plus one]

ok a more complete list

all day every day
bull bar
rock sliders
i run 12.5X33X15, plus one on the back
spare wheel carrier
reinforced bonnett
skinny on the bonnett
air compresor
2Xn7 batterys
uhf radio speekers etc
water pump and plumbing

2 dome tents
all bedding blakets
shower tent and 12 shower thing
2 tarps
8 poles, axe shovel
big box of tent pegs rope mallett
Jack, tyer kit, wheel bearings, a set of rear axcles
radiator hoses cleamps, seals 5 ltrs oil
spaners, ring and opender set
socket set
plyers 3, plus circlip plyers
screw drivers, mulltymeter
fridge
2 burner lpg and 9 kg lpg bottle
1 butain burner
pots pans, eating stuff
toilet papaer gas cans, aero gard flyspray and sun block
2 kites, a cricet set, socerball, tball set. about 5 other balls

some tined food rice etc that lives in the 110

all equals 2.6 tonne. AND i am light when looking at some of the otheres i know

NB spelling, well its late and i dont care

What's the skinny on the skinny? :D is it a 33? Wouldn't mind saving some weight in this department myself.

[85 county]

What's the skinny on the skinny? :D is it a 33? Wouldn't mind saving some weight in this department myself.

an old survivor on a std county rim complete with a tube. and yes its 33"

thats on the bonnett, the wheel of last resort, i would rather brake a bead than driv on this. but it has saved me twice. IE the weekend trip where you kill 3 tyers = $$$$$$$

Oh i forgot, 1 large can of hairspray from coles, water profing and setting beads
and a can of fiberglass bog, = radiator fule tank repairs

[Summiitt]

2 of my 130s have run at around 3300-3500kg since new on standard suspension, and the 3rd is on stupidly heavy duty suspension. It's probably the main reason I buy the 130s as work utes, But I can't understand why people carry so much crap when they go bush..isn't the idea keep it simple?!

[voltron]

and a can of fiberglass bog, = radiator fule tank repairs

I use Araldite for radiator. Takes a while to set but it is good for extreme temperatures and the last time I used it I didnt even bother to replace the radiator. I've heard of guys using it in the blocks of engines. How long does figerglass bog take to set??? Might be a better option.

[voltron]

2 of my 130s have run at around 3300-3500kg since new on standard suspension, and the 3rd is on stupidly heavy duty suspension. It's probably the main reason I buy the 130s as work utes, But I can't understand why people carry so much crap when they go bush..isn't the idea keep it simple?!

Im not that experienced with carrying this much weight in the scrub. If anything Im more worried about the strain it puts on the vehicle in bad driving conditions, but I guess that is why everyone buys the Defender becaue it handles it. Doesn't it?

[85 county]

I use Araldite for radiator. Takes a while to set but it is good for extreme temperatures and the last time I used it I didnt even bother to replace the radiator. I've heard of guys using it in the blocks of engines. How long does figerglass bog take to set??? Might be a better option.

i have only used it once many years ago ( tuch wood)... sets in about 15 minits, the idea is to push it though the radiator both sides to make a plug, sort of

[uninformed]

110 ute, 2070kg when not towing and just running around day to day weekends etc no gear.

Yes proper weigh bridge weight.

[benji]

Im reading this post with a bit of envy TBH.

Adding up the weights in the P38 and we're 150kg over GVM (fully packed), and that's without the proposed second spare wheel.

Interestingly there's not difference in fuel economy or handling between empty and full. I guess eas has it's benefits, but it's also because of that I can't entertain the idea of a GVM upgrade.

[FeatherWeightDriver]

Hmm - I am sure no one would not want to get picked up running over GVM.

For the brains trush: Putting aside the obvious solution of "take less stuff" (I claim devil's advocate!) has anyone had a certified (engineered and plated) GVM upgrade to a Puma 110 Defender?

Is it possible? What was the upside in weight? What was the downside in cost?

[85 county]

Hmm - I am sure no one would not want to get picked up running over GVM.

For the brains trush: Putting aside the obvious solution of "take less stuff" (I claim devil's advocate!) has anyone had a certified (engineered and plated) GVM upgrade to a Puma 110 Defender?

Is it possible? What was the upside in weight? What was the downside in cost?

would you want to to a Puma?

i have driven a couple now, brisk and nice when light, suck the fule over 95klm and when heavy.

the isuzu get between 11-12 ltrs per 100 regardless

[weeds]

Hmm - I am sure no one would not want to get picked up running over GVM.

For the brains trush: Putting aside the obvious solution of "take less stuff" (I claim devil's advocate!) has anyone had a certified (engineered and plated) GVM upgrade to a Puma 110 Defender?

Is it possible? What was the upside in weight? What was the downside in cost?

I believe the ARB GVM upgrades are based on retaining the rigs original difference between tare and GVM. For a 200 series the upgrade give you an extra 300kg which equates to front bar, rear bar, long range fuel tank, roof rack.

I haven't heard of an off the shelf approved GVM upgrade for the defender

Apparently the UK has a heavy duty variant which a upgraded diff centres and springs....other will have the details

[Summiitt]

Im not that experienced with carrying this much weight in the scrub. If anything Im more worried about the strain it puts on the vehicle in bad driving conditions, but I guess that is why everyone buys the Defender becaue it handles it. Doesn't it?

No need to worry, we do some pretty serious trails for work that most people would do to go 4wding for the day.. Have run monkey gum near Norwa at 3.5ton with all standard running gear, the 130 ate it up and spat it out!

[isuzutoo-eh]

Chook73 has had a GVM upgrade on his Puma 110, but it has had a few other minor mods as well...

[voltron]

No need to worry, we do some pretty serious trails for work that most people would do to go 4wding for the day.. Have run monkey gum near Norwa at 3.5ton with all standard running gear, the 130 ate it up and spat it out!

Wow, thats food for thought.

[voltron]

Weighed in the car this morning at the local Tip. They said their scales are withi n 20kg accuracy and calibrated end of each month. I can't get a front to back reading, only a full car weight.

2.46t total weight.

This included:

Winch Bar
Winch & Steel Rope
Bonnet Checker Plate
Custom 6 point Roll Cage
1/2 tank fuel
Fridge and slide.
Drawers filled with compressor, Snatch strap and Recovery Sling
Cargo Barrier
Empty Water tank
125 amp AMG Battery
Me.

I had these off my vehicle to get roof cage repaired.

Landrover roof cage
Superwing awning
32' LED Bar

Usual occupants when camping
Wife + 2 Children.

[85 county]

well if you got rid of the Bonnet Checker Plate and wife.
you would save a lot of $$ in fule:D

[rick130]

2 of my 130s have run at around 3300-3500kg since new on standard suspension, and the 3rd is on stupidly heavy duty suspension. It's probably the main reason I buy the 130s as work utes, But I can't understand why people carry so much crap when they go bush..isn't the idea keep it simple?!

Last time the 130 went over the weighbridge it was a genuine 3000kg sans driver, and yes, it's a vehicle that earns its keep too.

Currently it's well under that weight, I'm running light, probably around 2500-2600kg and only loading what I really need for specific jobs.
Also removed the 140lb inner rear springs with the reduced load.
The ride and drive over rough roads is that much better it isn't funny.

[Summiitt]

I could imagine the ride is awesome without the inner springs, amongst all the tools, spares and work stuff I carry, I also have 500 litres of diesel and when it's empty I notice the ride is so much harsher, I find anything over 3200gvm is when the ride really improves and the suspension is able to flex as it should, running at 3500gvm and it's almost limo like!

[voltron]

well if you got rid of the Bonnet Checker Plate and wife.
you would save a lot of $$ in fule:D

The checker plate certainly is a beacon for children to jump all over the bonnet. But I'm doing the stay home dad stint for a couple of years so I can't get rid of the wife right now as she is funding the whole project.;)

[97diesel]

Gee i'm running light compared to others, Took a load of crap to the dump in the 130 with the well body filled to the top of the canopy. went over the tip weigh bridge at 2640kg's. Came out after emptying the back with just the mrs and me with 3/4 tank of fuel, alloy bullbar and side steps,tjm canopy and was 2400kg's on the tip weigh bridge.

[ugu80]

Just reading 4wd Action article about JTS Jamie and his 2011 Defender 130. It weighs 4.2 tonne.

[2stroke]

Only 700 kg over.:o It'd have to come close to GVM empty. Drives it so hard too.:eek:

[weeds]

Dropped into the work weigh bridge today....first chance to run the Hardtop over the bridge.

I wish I weighed it before the pop top conversion was done...anyway.

It was a rough weigh in...tank empty but the camping gear probably equaled a full tank....driverless, oh and mulgo pop top

Both Axles 2320...730kg up my sleeve
Front Axle 1100...100kg available
Rear Axle 1220...530kg to play with

From memory the specs are
GVM 3050
Max Front 1200
Max rear 1750

[Summiitt]

This one of the 110 Utes running in the bush at about 3200kg, depending what the operators got in he's esky for lunch..!

[rick130]

This one of the 110 Utes running in the bush at about 3200kg, depending what the operators got in he's esky for lunch..!


I saw the 6x6 trundling along Canberra Ave about a month ago, looks good. :D

[mfc]

On long trips I'm about 200 under gmv pefore shopping day, that's full lr tank and water.... big thing that improved mine empty and fully loaded was 130 springs in the front( extreme. Bar winch n light bar)