View Full Version : LARGER REAR SWAY BARS ON 110
voltron
7th February 2014, 07:30 PM
Im opening myself up to potentially asking a stupid question but, with all the extra weight slowly being added to the 110. I can feel the car sway considerably more at the rear. My friend said the sway bars are quite small for the weight of the vehicle and said I should put on larger sway bars as the stock ones were probably not designed to constantly work at close to GVM.
 
Will a larger sway bar on the rear fix this? 
Can larger bars be fitted to the 110?
Is there any potential down sides to doing this?
Cheers.
JDNSW
7th February 2014, 07:56 PM
Sway bars on an offroad vehicle are always a compromise between on road and offroad performance - many coil spring utility Landrovers have none.
Larger sway bars can be fitted, although I do not know what the availability of them off the shelf is. 
The drawback will be loss of effective articulation; whether this matters depends on what you are using it for. 
Before making any decisions, make sure that the problem is not tyre pressure.
John
voltron
7th February 2014, 08:03 PM
Sway bars on an offroad vehicle are always a compromise between on road and offroad performance - many coil spring utility Landrovers have none.
Larger sway bars can be fitted, although I do not know what the availability of them off the shelf is. 
The drawback will be loss of effective articulation; whether this matters depends on what you are using it for. 
Before making any decisions, make sure that the problem is not tyre pressure.
John
Geez funny you mention tyre pressure because it seems to be the root of all my problems. Guess I will check it out and see if a bit more will improve anything.
Cheers
bushrover
7th February 2014, 09:01 PM
JD certainly has it with tyres, but if you want better stability again, I have an X-engineering x-deflex rear bar set up. Works well until I forget to disengage it in the rough and bend the side arm, or break it off on a rock.:(
Sway bars are not expensive to have made - alzheimers is preventing me from remembering who made my 27mm front bar - and with diff locks you don't miss the wheel travel.
Rick
voltron
7th February 2014, 09:35 PM
JD certainly has it with tyres, but if you want better stability again, I have an X-engineering x-deflex rear bar set up. Works well until I forget to disengage it in the rough and bend the side arm, or break it off on a rock.:(
Sway bars are not expensive to have made - alzheimers is preventing me from remembering who made my 27mm front bar - and with diff locks you don't miss the wheel travel.
Rick
Well I couldnt wait and went out and put a bit more pressure into the tyres and seems to have fixed the problem. But I will know for sure tomorrow when I go out for more of a drive. I'll check out thos x reflex bars now.
Cheers
dullbird
7th February 2014, 09:40 PM
I would of thought the sway bar would have been made to work at the vehicles GVM all the time...
Land Rover I dont think generally under engineer things...well apart from their engine sizes according to some:D
Ancient Mariner
7th February 2014, 09:56 PM
I would of thought the sway bar would have been made to work at the vehicles GVM all the time...
Land Rover I dont think generally under engineer things...well apart from their engine sizes according to some:D
Ha  Ha Ha:o
dullbird
7th February 2014, 10:07 PM
perhaps I should of said in my inexperienced opinion :D
Mammalalien
7th February 2014, 10:46 PM
Well I couldnt wait and went out and put a bit more pressure into the tyres and seems to have fixed the problem. But I will know for sure tomorrow when I go out for more of a drive. I'll check out thos x reflex bars now.
Cheers
Every modern vehicle that I've ever looked closely at has had two sets of tyre pressures listed; normal pressure and a highspeed/heavy-load pressure a few PSI higher.
That solution makes sense to me :)
voltron
8th February 2014, 04:57 AM
Every modern vehicle that I've ever looked closely at has had two sets of tyre pressures listed; normal pressure and a highspeed/heavy-load pressure a few PSI higher.
That solution makes sense to me :)
I better get the manual and suss it out.
JDNSW
8th February 2014, 05:29 AM
The tyre placard on my 1986 110 specifies pressures from 35/35 to 50/65 psi depending on loads and speeds. So a bit more than a few psi!
John
Mammalalien
8th February 2014, 10:34 AM
The tyre placard on my 1986 110 specifies pressures from 35/35 to 50/65 psi depending on loads and speeds. So a bit more than a few psi!
John
As long as it rides well and is within the rated pressure range marked on the tyre. Just remember to carry a good pump and let them down a little for sharp rocks and alot for soft sand.
I used to have a Pulsar on which the mechanic would always let the tyres down to 34psi despite it recommending 38 in the book and 40 on the Bob Jane sticker. Made a helluva difference to the handling when they were up at they're proper pressure.
jasonedu
9th February 2014, 05:14 PM
JD certainly has it with tyres, but if you want better stability again, I have an X-engineering x-deflex rear bar set up. Works well until I forget to disengage it in the rough and bend the side arm, or break it off on a rock.:(
Sway bars are not expensive to have made - alzheimers is preventing me from remembering who made my 27mm front bar - and with diff locks you don't miss the wheel travel.
Rick
Hi Rick,
I like the idea of a stiffer sway bar that can be disconnected and have been looking at these. How do they disconnect? And are the completely removed as they do seem to be asking for damage?
Thanks,
Mammalalien
9th February 2014, 06:02 PM
I'd have thought having front/rear diff lockers might be more advantageous off road than disconecting the sway bar. In situations where two opposite corners could be held in the air, better articulation (disengaged sway bars) would help some of the time but locked front/rear diffs would help everytime. Plus, then you have lockers for boggy terrain as well.
Lockers seem like the mod more commonly installed too.
Bonus round: take a look at how V8 Supercar's variable torsion sway bars work. Brilliantly simple.*How anti-roll bars work on V8 Supercars - YouTube
bushrover
9th February 2014, 08:05 PM
Hi Rick,
I like the idea of a stiffer sway bar that can be disconnected and have been looking at these. How do they disconnect? And are the completely removed as they do seem to be asking for damage?
Thanks,
Check X-eng web site. They use a standard free wheel hub to lock and unlock. I like mine, but have to remember to disengage it in the rough. I broke it off when I reversed in to a rock, but I do have a long range tank, so it is mounted 70-80mm lower than standard. They are not difficult to remove but once it is on you wouldn't bother taking it off. 
Sway bars and diff locks are the way to go for a tourer.
Rick
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