Mud Tyres for D4 3.0l

[captcam68]

Hi all,

Has anyone heard of or seen anything anywhere regarding fitting steel rims with an aggressive mud tyre that will fit a 3.0l D4. Have the compomotives on with Dueller 697's which are a brilliant all rounder but would like to have a set of swappable muddies when I know I'm going forest/ recent wet etc. Even modifying a set of steel sunraysers to fit the rotor sizes on the D4. Has anyone heard of getting steel rims made to order? Any suggestions would be great or is it a pipe dream:confused:

[Canaussie]

It's all about the legalities of insurance. No steel 18" rims are available that I'm aware of to make the required offset which is +53. You would have to grind the calipers to make something work. Shoulda got the 2.7 lol like I did. This in my opinion lets down the 3.0l. I'd love that engine but. Goodluck

[~Rich~]

I think it's a great point, I've got nothing against Gordon's alloys but a cheaper steel wheel alternative for fitting a second set of 'Bush Tyres' would make sense. Perhaps you should get in contact with King steel rims and ask the question.

[Rooster86]

Try dymamic wheels

[Disco4SE]

Cheapest & easiest solution would be to get a set of mud tyres to suit your 18" rims, get really friendly with your local tyre dealer and get him to swap them over prior to going off road.
Second option would be to get a second hand set of 19", but you are loosing side wall depth and narrowing your range of tyres.

Cheers, Craig

[Geedublya]

There is a third option...

I have KM2s on my D4.

[captcam68]

There is a third option...

I have KM2s on my D4.

Hi Geedublya

Had a look at the KM2, look pretty good are you running them as your primary tyre or what I want to do on a 2 nd set rims?. Holy crap:o $660 per tyre! Not cheap.

[gghaggis]

I've made up steel rims here in Perth, but the problem (other than they're heavy) is that the steelies are illegal. Even as "bush" rims, you still have to drive on a public road to get there, so I couldn't in good conscience sell them as a set of driving rims. If you're involved in an accident, you have NO insurance. I have sold them singly as emergency spares for people doing desert treks etc.

Cheers,

Gordon

[AnD3rew]

There is a third option...

I have KM2s on my D4.

What size? They don't make one that will legally fit. Or practically fit without significant modification do they?

[AnD3rew]

I've made up steel rims here in Perth, but the problem (other than they're heavy) is that the steelies are illegal. Even as "bush" rims, you still have to drive on a public road to get there, so I couldn't in good conscience sell them as a set of driving rims. If you're involved in an accident, you have NO insurance. I have sold them singly as emergency spares for people doing desert treks etc.

Cheers,

Gordon

What makes them illegal Gordon? If you are making them and can set the specs and make the right offset and load ratings etc?

[gghaggis]

You can't spin an outer out of steel that has enough clearance and maintains both the load rating and a legal offset. One or the other or both have to be compromised.

Cheers,

Gordon

[jonesy63]

What size? They don't make one that will legally fit. Or practically fit without significant modification do they?

Hmm... TDV6 D3 brakes on a D4? :cool:

[dazray]

Does a 2.7l D4 weigh the same as a 3.0l D4? If so why does the 3.0l need bigger brakes?
Also, how can a LC200 with a kerb weight of 2730kg 195kw 650nm have 17" rims?

[discotwinturbo]

Does a 2.7l D4 weigh the same as a 3.0l D4? If so why does the 3.0l need bigger brakes? Also, how can a LC200 with a kerb weight of 2730kg 195kw 650nm have 17" rims?

Generally more performance needs to be backed up by better braking power.

200....brake hard and see how it goes....not great at all.

But most D4 owners realise she is not a sports car...so a shame it did not have smaller brakes.

Brett....

[Graeme]

Hmm... TDV6 D3 brakes on a D4? :cool:2.7 D4 brakes on a 3.0 D4.

[Graeme]

Does a 2.7l D4 weigh the same as a 3.0l D4? If so why does the 3.0l need bigger brakes?
The 3.0 doesn't need bigger brakes any more than a 2.7 does and would stop the same as a 2.7 if fitted.

[AnD3rew]

The 3.0 doesn't need bigger brakes any more than a 2.7 does and would stop the same as a 2.7 if fitted.

Having said that, one of the very very few things I think could be a but better about my D3 is the brakes. There have been a couple of moments when standing in the brakes when I have fleetingly thought I wish I had just a little more, fortunately haven't hit anything yet, and the electronics are pretty damn good in those situations but still. Having said that it would be tough to trade off the need for 19" rims.

[gghaggis]

The bigger brakes give better traction control performance, especially in Rock Crawl. They are also less likely to fade if the TC is being continuously used over harsh ground.

Cheers,

Gordon

[russV82a]

There is a third option...

I have KM2s on my D4.

I assume you must have a 2.7 D4 and hence have 17 inch rims which allow fitment of KM2s.

I am just going through the same process as the OP of trying to figure out what rims and tyres to get as a second set for 4wding. I have a 3.0L HSE. Sounds like the compomotive rims are really the only option for rims but I am struggling to find a proper mud tyres for 18 inch rims that is compatible with the D4 (without too many mods).

My research suggests that the only real option for mud tyres on 18 inch rims is in the 275/65 R18 size which has a diameter of 814mm. To fit these tyres, some minor mods under the guards (including relocating the rear A/C pipes) and an alternative location for the spare wheel need to be found. The other issue is if your vehicle drops to the bump stops, the tyres will foul the guards making it impossible to drive.

I think the perfect size would be 265/65 R18 (31.5 inch or 801mm) for a mud tyre. The only tyres I can find in this size is the BF Goddridge all terrains.

If anyone has any other solutions for a mud terrain tyre on 18 inch rims for a 3.0L D4 I would love to hear it.

I still find it so annoying that Land Rover make a 4WD which has such a limited number of 4WD tyre options!

[gghaggis]

In 4 years of looking, I've only ever found 275/65R18 :(

Cheers,

Gordon

[Geedublya]

I assume you must have a 2.7 D4 and hence have 17 inch rims which allow fitment of KM2s.

I am just going through the same process as the OP of trying to figure out what rims and tyres to get as a second set for 4wding. I have a 3.0L HSE. Sounds like the compomotive rims are really the only option for rims but I am struggling to find a proper mud tyres for 18 inch rims that is compatible with the D4 (without too many mods).

My research suggests that the only real option for mud tyres on 18 inch rims is in the 275/65 R18 size which has a diameter of 814mm. To fit these tyres, some minor mods under the guards (including relocating the rear A/C pipes) and an alternative location for the spare wheel need to be found. The other issue is if your vehicle drops to the bump stops, the tyres will foul the guards making it impossible to drive.

I think the perfect size would be 265/65 R18 (31.5 inch or 801mm) for a mud tyre. The only tyres I can find in this size is the BF Goddridge all terrains.

If anyone has any other solutions for a mud terrain tyre on 18 inch rims for a 3.0L D4 I would love to hear it.

I still find it so annoying that Land Rover make a 4WD which has such a limited number of 4WD tyre options!

Mine is a V8 D4. I currently have 245 70 17, next time I will go 265 70 17.

[the_preacher1973]

Mine is a V8 D4. I currently have 245 70 17, next time I will go 265 70 17.

How did you get 17's on a V8?

[sheerluck]

How did you get 17's on a V8?

You nail them on. :D

[phl]

But most D4 owners realise she is not a sports car...

Do we? Like the power, and make full use of it...

[jon3950]

Do we? Like the power, and make full use of it...

Yep, mine's a sports car. :D

Then sometimes its a tow car, sometimes its a service vehicle, sometimes its a van, sometimes its a people mover and sometimes its a 4wd. That's what makes it so brilliant.

Cheers,
Jon

[discotwinturbo]

Yep, mine's a sports car. :D Then sometimes its a tow car, sometimes its a service vehicle, sometimes its a van, sometimes its a people mover and sometimes its a 4wd. That's what makes it so brilliant. Cheers, Jon

Haha.

She does a lot of things good (better than any other marque), but she ain't no sports car.
If you have ever drive a sports car, you will find she is far from it.
She is a great all rounder.

Brett...

[BobD]

My 18 year old son reckons I drive mine like a sports car, doing donuts in the dirt at Bartons Mill and other stupid things like that. His mates reckon I'm cool!! He has a TDI300 D1 and we are always going out four wheeling together, either in my D4 or GQ Patrol with 6.5 Chev diesel. He always takes a group of his mates who own lesser cars like Surfs and Mirages!


Bob

[phl]

Haha.

She does a lot of things good (better than any other marque), but she ain't no sports car.
If you have ever drive a sports car, you will find she is far from it.
She is a great all rounder.

Brett...

Jon well knows about sports cars, having seen his toy in the flesh, I mean metal...

The SDV6 goes a lot better than most cars out on the road; I know it's not a brutal as some pure sports car, but it's much easier to drive and more comfortable than the Italian performance cars.

[nat_89]

Do we? Like the power, and make full use of it...

Hahaha ill agree there use the power and love it nothing better than just burning away from the lights hahah!!!