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Steve223
20th February 2014, 05:17 PM
Hi Together,
Have a terra firma RTCS damper in my 110 however it seems a bit weak and only returns around 90% I'd like to replace it with a stronger one and was wondering what other people with 33" or 35" are using?
Cheers
Steve
MR LR
20th February 2014, 06:30 PM
Hi Together,
Have a terra firma RTCS damper in my 110 however it seems a bit weak and only returns around 90% I'd like to replace it with a stronger one and was wondering what other people with 33" or 35" are using? 
Cheers
Steve
Proper suspension geometry will be better than any of those dodgy RTC dampers. They're only a bandaid. 
Cheers
Will
LowRanger
20th February 2014, 06:35 PM
I just use the original Land Rover steering Damper.You don't need an RTC damper to mask any problems you may have elsewhere;)
rick130
21st February 2014, 07:41 AM
Proper suspension geometry will be better than any of those dodgy RTC dampers. They're only a bandaid. 
Cheers
Will
I just use the original Land Rover steering Damper.You don't need an RTC damper to mask any problems you may have elsewhere;)
Ditto.
Jode
22nd February 2014, 04:54 AM
The vehicle should, on a flat, hard surfaced road, return to the straight by itself, and as noted, the geometry of the front axle does that (the camber plus driven front wheels).
Steve223
22nd February 2014, 07:06 AM
Thanks guys will look in to that then
Bushie
22nd February 2014, 07:13 AM
Make sure your steering box is set and centred correctly as well.
Martyn
rick130
22nd February 2014, 10:17 AM
The vehicle should, on a flat, hard surfaced road, return to the straight by itself, and as noted, the geometry of the front axle does that (the camber plus driven front wheels).
It's actually castor that gives the steering its self centring ability, camber has bugger all to do with it.
The more castor the greater the return to centre.
MR LR
22nd February 2014, 11:53 AM
It's actually castor that gives the steering its self centring ability, camber has bugger all to do with it.
The more castor the greater the return to centre.
x 2
Yorkshire_Jon
22nd February 2014, 05:23 PM
I agree with the comments above but also note that the primary purpose of an RTC is not for road use, but to provide some additional assistance in returning the wheel to centre when those 33's and big 35 are shin deep in mud.
So, I agree that if you have a badly setup car then an RTC is not the solution... fix the problem.
If on the other hand your car is set up correctly and drives nicely without a steering damper in place, then an RTC is actually quite a good thing to have, for the reasons noted above.
We sold many hundreds of them (Tough Dog brand) in the UK and when customers knew what they where buying and what its primary purpose was for they were very happy with them.
I too have run one for many years... The Canning Stock Route killed it though, now I run the larger bore Tough Dog Steering damper, though its not an RTC - Cant say Ive noticed any difference in every day driving and general bush driving here in Australia.
R
J
Wal Rat
10th March 2014, 06:46 AM
Regardless of what the experts think .iI fitted a tough dog RTC and found it helped a lot in mud and even if  it masked other problems on the road made it a far nicer drive. If you haven't fitted one how would you know?
uninformed
10th March 2014, 05:07 PM
with that logic I guess I should fit a hyclone or shove pills up my arse :D
dullbird
10th March 2014, 05:35 PM
with that logic I guess I should fit a hyclone or 
shove pills up my arse :D
HEY!! the pills did wonders for my weighloss:D
rick130
10th March 2014, 07:02 PM
with that logic I guess I should fit a hyclone or shove pills up my arse :D
HEY!! the pills did wonders for my weighloss:D
Bwahaha ! :D
MR LR
10th March 2014, 09:19 PM
Regardless of what the experts think .iI fitted a tough dog RTC and found it helped a lot in mud and even if  it masked other problems on the road made it a far nicer drive. If you haven't fitted one how would you know?
It's quite simple really, with the correct castor and wheel alignment, they steer fantastically anyway, no need for extra stress on steering components in mud either, that's stupid IMO, PAS gives more than enough assistance, if you need more I'd suggest growing a pair :D 
Cheers
Will
noogie
11th March 2014, 06:51 AM
I agree with the comments above but also note that the primary purpose of an RTC is not for road use, but to provide some additional assistance in returning the wheel to centre when those 33's and big 35 are shin deep in mud.
 
So, I agree that if you have a badly setup car then an RTC is not the solution... fix the problem.
 
If on the other hand your car is set up correctly and drives nicely without a steering damper in place, then an RTC is actually quite a good thing to have, for the reasons noted above.
 
We sold many hundreds of them (Tough Dog brand) in the UK and when customers knew what they where buying and what its primary purpose was for they were very happy with them.
 
I too have run one for many years... The Canning Stock Route killed it though, now I run the larger bore Tough Dog Steering damper, though its not an RTC - Cant say Ive noticed any difference in every day driving and general bush driving here in Australia.
 
R
J
 
I agree.
 
I installed a Tough Dog damper and the steering feels a lot more responsive on the road.
Pretty happy with it.
I run 255 85 16s
BFG KM2s
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