Running in time of a new D4

[wbowner]

Hi,
I picked up my new D4 yesterday, actually it is not called a D4 now just called Discovery. It is a TDV6.

I was told by the sales guy that there was no need to run the car in as the engine is pre run in, not his exact words.

Well I was reading the manual tonight and on page 183 there is a section on running in the car.

So does any one know which is the right answer, do I need to run it in or not.

I am planning a bit of trip from Canberra to Melbourne next week and one of the conditions of running in is to not run for long periods at a constant speed which would be the case on this trip.

Thanks in advance,
Richard

[discotwinturbo]

Hi, I picked up my new D4 yesterday, actually it is not called a D4 now just called Discovery. It is a TDV6. I was told by the sales guy that there was no need to run the car in as the engine is pre run in, not his exact words. Well I was reading the manual tonight and on page 183 there is a section on running in the car. So does any one know which is the right answer, do I need to run it in or not. I am planning a bit of trip from Canberra to Melbourne next week and one of the conditions of running in is to not run for long periods at a constant speed which would be the case on this trip. Thanks in advance, Richard

Definitely not pre run in.

Don't redline it, don't thrash it, don't keep it a the same speed for a long period.

But diesels do need to be worked, and more so during run in.

Just common sense with how you drive, but don't baby it.

Brett.....

[Tombie]

I got my D4 new from Melbourne and drove it straight home for 12 hours.

During that time I just used the gearbox to shift gears whilst cruising to change engine speed...
So top gear for a while, then shifted down a gear or 2 for a while, back into top, and on hills I shifted and loaded it up a bit.

Only thing I did not do was tow for a couple of thousand km

[XDrive]

Most people assume that when they are refering to 'running in' a new vehicle, they are referring to the engine.

It is also important to treat the brakes, and tyres to the same 'thought' process. Excessively hard braking and 'loading up' the tyres due to excessive cornering, acceleration and braking can also have an adverse effect.

It is important to take it gently when starting off with a cold engine, although you do not need to sit idling whilst the engine warms up. You will find that most modern vehicle will limit the gear selection to only a few gears, until the engine is sufficiently warm.

As has been stated earlier, do not run at 'constant revs' for too long, although if you can find a route that has a variety of terrain, such as some hills etc, this can be beneficial.

Do not forget to also use the vehicle 'off-road' and to select the high and low range, not only to make sure that everything works, this also allows the vehicle to work a liitle harder and can aid in the 'bedding in' process.

Towing large loads should be avoided in this initial period.

Don't baby it but by the same token, do not 'drive it like you stole it' either. A sensible approach should see you enjoying your vehicle for a very long time.

[Tombie]

Good advice above..

I personally prefer to work my engines in relatively hard (but not thrashing it) as this beds them in better...

[d.diddy_13]

More importantly... PICS

[nat_89]

Good advice above..

I personally prefer to work my engines in relatively hard (but not thrashing it) as this beds them in better...

I'll have to agree there do it with all my new cars and did the same with my new disco 4 the other week I must admit using no cruise for a 1000kms is hard haha but all worth it.

[DiscoMick]

I'd be following what the manual says, not the salesman.

[Weird Al]

Ha, this is too funny.....

I too just bought a new Discovery and when it was a week old drove it from Canberra to Melbourne and back.

I also did the change gears every now and then and did not use the cruise some of the time.

[wbowner]

Ha, this is too funny.....

I too just bought a new Discovery and when it was a week old drove it from Canberra to Melbourne and back.

I also did the change gears every now and then and did not use the cruise some of the time.

Al,
I was told you did not have to run it in as done at the factory.

I have done the unforgivable and read the handbook, scary stuff.
Contains lots of info about features my TDV6 does not have :). It also has stuff on running in, go figure.

I have asked a few people about running in and the general answer us that it is not necessary but as said above it is best not to flog it and vary the speed a bit which is hard on longer trip where putting on cruise would be so nice.

Richard

[Basil135]

Landed in Melbourne, went to the dealer, picked up the car, and drove home to Adelaide. A pleasant 11 hour drive in the new D4. :D

Drive it like it is stolen, and give her some gentle lovin, and all will be good. ;)

[MY14D4]

I have also just purchased a new Discovery, and whilst reading the manual noticed it stated that you can have your dealers activate the electronic folding mirrors? Also have you guys had any luck with lowering / raising the height with the keyfob, or are both of these things paid optional extras from the factory that?

Ps we should start a 2014 Discovery thread.



MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

[Redback]

Landed in Melbourne, went to the dealer, picked up the car, and drove home to Adelaide. A pleasant 11 hour drive in the new D4. :D

Drive it like it is stolen, and give her some gentle lovin, and all will be good. ;)

X2


I have also just purchased a new Discovery, and whilst reading the manual noticed it stated that you can have your dealers activate the electronic folding mirrors? Also have you guys had any luck with lowering / raising the height with the keyfob, or are both of these things paid optional extras from the factory that?

Ps we should start a 2014 Discovery thread.



MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

If it's not activated then the dealer will do it for a price, that's assuming they know how.

Check to see if you have up and down windows using the Key Fob, we asked a certain dealer could they activate our, they oh no that's a safety issue, we said but it's active in the HSE, they refused:mad: they finally admitted they had know idea:eek:

We got it done by another dealer:D

Baz.

[wbowner]

I have also just purchased a new Discovery, and whilst reading the manual noticed it stated that you can have your dealers activate the electronic folding mirrors? Also have you guys had any luck with lowering / raising the height with the keyfob, or are both of these things paid optional extras from the factory that?

Ps we should start a 2014 Discovery thread.



MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

Hi,
I have a 5 seater TDV6.

The dealer showed me the raise and lower on my car with the key fob and it works. I must admit I have not tried it myself yet. Will do today if I get a chance.

It is described on page 97 of the hand book. I believe you have to have the doors closed.

re folding mirrors. This is an option on the TDV6 which I did not get. I wish I had as sometimes it is good to be able to do this while in the car. I am reluctant to try the manual approach given my likely hood of breaking something as they do not fold in normally but at an angle.

The hand book contains lost of stuff about features you don't have in the tDV6. I wish they identified them as it is a pain as you are not sure it is because it doesn't work or you are doing something wrong or it just isn't there.

There is an option where you can press buttons (page 6) called Global Opening. When I do this all the windows open but not the car?

Have you read the bit about checking oil levels on page 200. It goes through doing it via a display on the instrument panel - no need to use the dip stick. Then later it mentions topping up and checking if you have enough oil in. You use the display for the SDV6 but are supposed to use the dip stick for TDV6 - I think :).
I suspect we do not have the instrument display on the TDV6 (will verify today).

That is the trouble doing it at night - I don't want to spend the night in the car playing with the options (well I do really but don't want to look to stupid).

Have fun,
Richard

ps a MY14 thread would be good for now as people find out what they have and do not have.

PPS here are some of the options I don't believe the TDV6 does not have - (not a complete list)

Keyless opening/locking (this is where you do not have to press the button)
Page 6 and 11 in handbook

High beam assit
Page 48

Blind spot monitoring
Page 56-59

AIR QUALITY SENSOR
PAGE 68-69

Reverse Traffic Detection
Page 104

Wade sensing
Page 111

[giskard]

Why drive it like you stole it? ie why run it a bit hard? I don't have any previous experience with a diesel. Does it loosen things up a bit? I've done around 3k in the disco, a mix of city and highway, with a bit of cruise thrown. One thing I haven't done yet is flop it in low range. Guess I should do that soon...

Previous comment about running in brakes/tyres makes absolutely no sense to me. They're either going to work or they won't. :)

[Tombie]

Working any engine beds the rings, bearings etc in properly.

As for brakes, pads and mating surfaces are raw from the manufacturing and bedding them
in prevents them ripping at each other causing unnecessary wear.

[MY14D4]

MY14 thread is up guys, not sure how to link it, but it's located under the Discovery section, or in recent feeds. Looking forward to seeing some posts.


MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

[discotwinturbo]

Working your motor harder than normal and thrashing (driving like you stole it) are two different things.

Thrashing any new engine is a recipe for disaster, and will not help future fuel economy and longevity.

You don't want to baby it, but you also don't want to destroy it.

Brett....

[SBD4]

Why drive it like you stole it? ie why run it a bit hard? I don't have any previous experience with a diesel. Does it loosen things up a bit? I've done around 3k in the disco, a mix of city and highway, with a bit of cruise thrown. One thing I haven't done yet is flop it in low range. Guess I should do that soon...

Previous comment about running in brakes/tyres makes absolutely no sense to me. They're either going to work or they won't. :)

If you want to understand a bit more about what bedding in of the brakes means how to do it, check out the video here. It explains it very well:

https://www.essexparts.com/learning-center/cat/brake-rotors/post/Bed-in

[giskard]

Watching now. Cheers.

[101RRS]

The engines are already run in before installation in the vehicle in the build process - when the vehicle is completed each one is flogged around the test track undergoing some standard tests.

Nevertheless the engine is still new and in my view should just be driven "normally" with no extremes of load and light running. Not sure what the issue is with not using cruise control - the gearbox and engine will respond to load requirements with engine revs and gearbox changes accordingly. The cruise is not like the old versions of a few years back where the engine will hang on labouring away because either the gearbox has not changed down or the driver has not changed down his manual gearbox.

Garry

[wbowner]

The engines are already run in before installation in the vehicle in the build process - when the vehicle is completed each one is flogged around the test track undergoing some standard tests.

Nevertheless the engine is still new and in my view should just be driven "normally" with no extremes of load and light running. Not sure what the issue is with not using cruise control - the gearbox and engine will respond to load requirements with engine revs and gearbox changes accordingly. The cruise is not like the old versions of a few years back where the engine will have on labouring away because either the gearbox has not changed down or the driver has not changed down his manual gearbox.

Garry
Garry,
I mentioned the cruise purely to avoid running at the same speed for long periods.

My wife got a new subaru last year and they told her that so thought why not.

However Subaru also require you to have that free early service which LR don't which implies to me what you say above is more correct.

I only started this thread because while reeding the handbook I came across a section on running in the car. The sales guy said I did not have to and so I was confused and wanted some verification.

The hand book appears to be for all LR vehicles I think.

Any way I reckon I may just enjoy driving the car instead of worrying about things for awhile.

Thanks to all for comments.

Richard

[tiddy]

Hi,
I have a 5 seater TDV6.

The dealer showed me the raise and lower on my car with the key fob and it works. I must admit I have not tried it myself yet. Will do today if I get a chance.

It is described on page 97 of the hand book. I believe you have to have the doors closed.

re folding mirrors. This is an option on the TDV6 which I did not get. I wish I had as sometimes it is good to be able to do this while in the car. I am reluctant to try the manual approach given my likely hood of breaking something as they do not fold in normally but at an angle.

The hand book contains lost of stuff about features you don't have in the tDV6. I wish they identified them as it is a pain as you are not sure it is because it doesn't work or you are doing something wrong or it just isn't there.

There is an option where you can press buttons (page 6) called Global Opening. When I do this all the windows open but not the car?

Have you read the bit about checking oil levels on page 200. It goes through doing it via a display on the instrument panel - no need to use the dip stick. Then later it mentions topping up and checking if you have enough oil in. You use the display for the SDV6 but are supposed to use the dip stick for TDV6 - I think :).
I suspect we do not have the instrument display on the TDV6 (will verify today).

That is the trouble doing it at night - I don't want to spend the night in the car playing with the options (well I do really but don't want to look to stupid).

Have fun,
Richard

ps a MY14 thread would be good for now as people find out what they have and do not have.

PPS here are some of the options I don't believe the TDV6 does not have - (not a complete list)

Keyless opening/locking (this is where you do not have to press the button)
Page 6 and 11 in handbook

High beam assit
Page 48

Blind spot monitoring
Page 56-59

AIR QUALITY SENSOR
PAGE 68-69

Reverse Traffic Detection
Page 104

Wade sensing
Page 111


Hi There

Keyless opening/locking (this is where you do not have to press the button)
Page 6 and 11 in handbook

Reverse Traffic Detection
Page 104

Wade sensing
Page 111

Not sure if you mean these are not available on the TD or available as options?, but they are extra cost options, but the Reverse detection & wade sensor require the car to have Hi line audio, power mirrors, surround camera's etc fitted as well.

Mind you I have been told by my dealer after he confirmed with Land Rover in Sydney that we get the wade sensor because our car will be fitted with the Hi line audio, front sensors & rear camera......when it gets here.

I will wait & see

tiddy

[wbowner]

Hi There

Keyless opening/locking (this is where you do not have to press the button)
Page 6 and 11 in handbook

Reverse Traffic Detection
Page 104

Wade sensing
Page 111

Not sure if you mean these are not available on the TD or available as options?, but they are extra cost options, but the Reverse detection & wade sensor require the car to have Hi line audio, power mirrors, surround camera's etc fitted as well.

Mind you I have been told by my dealer after he confirmed with Land Rover in Sydney that we get the wade sensor because our car will be fitted with the Hi line audio, front sensors & rear camera......when it gets here.

I will wait & see

tiddy
Hi,
It is all confusing.

Apparently the MY14 come with the hi line audio. It was installed on mine even though I did not ask for it. It comes with Meridian sound system which is good. I also have front sensors and a rear camera but don't believe I have the wade detection??


Richard

[101RRS]

Garry,
I mentioned the cruise purely to avoid running at the same speed for long periods.

Richard

On a long trip say between Canb and Melb you do that anyway irrespective of whether you are on cruise control - unless you nod off of course.

[wbowner]

On a long trip say between Canb and Melb you do that anyway irrespective of whether you are on cruise control - unless you nod off of course.

Garry,
Good point. I guess without cruise you could try and vary the speed a bit more but you tend to not to.

This car is so quiet and smooth you could easily nod off.

Richard

[nat_89]

Garry,
Good point. I guess without cruise you could try and vary the speed a bit more but you tend to not to.

This car is so quiet and smooth you could easily nod off.

Richard

The engine hardly varies it's revs at all on cruise i did from Dysart to Cairns and back the other week towing a trailer and the thing is hardly bothered by hills it just powers up them no worries at all just blew me away!! But I guess I've come from the 6cyl 5 speed Subaru outback haha so no where near as much torque!

[phl]

As pointed out before, there is no problem using the cruise control, just use manual shift to change gears once in a while. It's not constant speed, but constant engine rev that you want to avoid.

[tiddy]

Hi,
It is all confusing.

Apparently the MY14 come with the hi line audio. It was installed on mine even though I did not ask for it. It comes with Meridian sound system which is good. I also have front sensors and a rear camera but don't believe I have the wade detection??


Richard

Hi Richard...I sure hope they don't come with Hi Audio, as I paid a heap more for the Meridian system over the standard 8 speaker LR setup & according to the LR website it's an option, so sounds like you get a good deal.

Did you get yours from Lennock?

tiddy

[wbowner]

Hi Richard...I sure hope they don't come with Hi Audio, as I paid a heap more for the Meridian system over the standard 8 speaker LR setup & according to the LR website it's an option, so sounds like you get a good deal.

Did you get yours from Lennock?

tiddy

Tiddy,
yes from Lennocks.

And you are right the Meridian does cost a bundle.

I am not sure how it ended up on mine but glad it had. I came to an agreement with them over the additional cost. It is worth it.

Richard

[nat_89]

Tiddy,
yes from Lennocks.

And you are right the Meridian does cost a bundle.

I am not sure how it ended up on mine but glad it had. I came to an agreement with them over the additional cost. It is worth it.

Richard

What sales person did you go through at Lennock? Garreth?

[wbowner]

What sales person did you go through at Lennock? Garreth?

No Scott, a nice young bloke.

The addition of the sound system was not his fault, it just came that way, I didn't request it. He was surprised when he saw it on the invoice. Keep in mind I put this order in last year when the MY14 builds were not available. I had to wait as I (well SWMBO) had some special requirements.

Richard

[nat_89]

No Scott, a nice young bloke.

The addition of the sound system was not his fault, it just came that way, I didn't request it. He was surprised when he saw it on the invoice. Keep in mind I put this order in last year when the MY14 builds were not available. I had to wait as I (well SWMBO) had some special requirements.

Richard

Ahh righto no i know Garreth the sales manager very well there, mine is the MY13 HSE with the 11speaker Harmon Kardon and believe me it sounds bloody beautiful i think they have just changed brands same sizes but different brands I'm sure they still sound the same if not better, i would love to hear the 17 speaker 825watt that would be awesome!!

[wbowner]

Ahh righto no i know Garreth the sales manager very well there, mine is the MY13 HSE with the 11speaker Harmon Kardon and believe me it sounds bloody beautiful i think they have just changed brands same sizes but different brands I'm sure they still sound the same if not better, i would love to hear the 17 speaker 825watt that would be awesome!!

Not sure how many speakers I have. I haven't looked as exploring other things.

It is possible I have a cut down version or something. It sounds good but not fantastic but time will tell.

Richard

[nat_89]

Not sure how many speakers I have. I haven't looked as exploring other things.

It is possible I have a cut down version or something. It sounds good but not fantastic but time will tell.

Richard

I believe there is the standard 8 speaker audio system then you upgrade to the Hi-Line 11 speaker system then there was the Hi-Ice i think it was that was 17 speaker correct me if I'm wrong but generally if you have an TDV6 or SE model and they put a tech pack on it usually upgrades to an 11 speaker but if you had the HSE and got the upgraded stereo that would be the 17 speaker but i could be wrong?

[wbowner]

I believe there is the standard 8 speaker audio system then you upgrade to the Hi-Line 11 speaker system then there was the Hi-Ice i think it was that was 17 speaker correct me if I'm wrong but generally if you have an TDV6 or SE model and they put a tech pack on it usually upgrades to an 11 speaker but if you had the HSE and got the upgraded stereo that would be the 17 speaker but i could be wrong?
That probably explains it as I have the tech pack on. I lost the dock which explained came with the tech pack.

Richard
PS found this

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/pricing.nsf/view-car-specs-data/4D0D155871685CB8CA257C270003A9F7

You have to have a meridian sound system with tech pack.

[tiddy]

I believe there is the standard 8 speaker audio system then you upgrade to the Hi-Line 11 speaker system then there was the Hi-Ice i think it was that was 17 speaker correct me if I'm wrong but generally if you have an TDV6 or SE model and they put a tech pack on it usually upgrades to an 11 speaker but if you had the HSE and got the upgraded stereo that would be the 17 speaker but i could be wrong?

If you have the rear camera, you have the upgraded Meridian system & yes, only the HSE gets the 17 speaker system...shame.

Garreth & Guy have done our deal, but it was Garreth who also gave us the Land Rover Corporate deal package at no cost..

Can I ask what colour you got & post some pic's. Ours will be Loire Blue, May/June seems sooooo far away

tiddy

[wbowner]

If you have the rear camera, you have the upgraded Meridian system & yes, only the HSE gets the 17 speaker system...shame.

Garreth & Guy have done our deal, but it was Garreth who also gave us the Land Rover Corporate deal package at no cost..

Can I ask what colour you got & post some pic's. Ours will be Loire Blue, May/June seems sooooo far away

tiddy

Our is Ipanema sand colour. They had one on the block with that colour when I went in and thought it looked OK so got that colour not the car. :).

I think it was October we put the order in. I was not worried about the time as had a lot on and time just went by.


Richard

[phl]

No Scott, a nice young bloke.

The addition of the sound system was not his fault, it just came that way, I didn't request it. He was surprised when he saw it on the invoice. Keep in mind I put this order in last year when the MY14 builds were not available. I had to wait as I (well SWMBO) had some special requirements.

Richard

Sometimes they make mistakes in the manufacture. In my case, it came with short rails instead of long (rectified by dealer), and premium leather, but that wasn't mentioned anywhere (not on invoice, nor Topix). I actually wanted the normal leather as with off road use, not sure how well the premium will last, but they are sure comfortable day to day.

[tiddy]

Sometimes they make mistakes in the manufacture. In my case, it came with short rails instead of long (rectified by dealer), and premium leather, but that wasn't mentioned anywhere (not on invoice, nor Topix). I actually wanted the normal leather as with off road use, not sure how well the premium will last, but they are sure comfortable day to day.

I hope they make some mistakes with ours as long as it's adding stuff.....LOL

tiddy

[Basil135]

Sometimes they make mistakes in the manufacture. In my case, it came with short rails instead of long (rectified by dealer), and premium leather, but that wasn't mentioned anywhere (not on invoice, nor Topix). I actually wanted the normal leather as with off road use, not sure how well the premium will last, but they are sure comfortable day to day.

Because I am such a nice guy, and always willing to help... :angel:

How's about we swap? My standard leather, for your premium? :D

Just to sweeten the deal, I will even come to you. ;)

[nat_89]

That probably explains it as I have the tech pack on. I lost the dock which explained came with the tech pack.

Richard
PS found this

Land Rover-Discovery-4 SDV6 SE Data, Details, Specifications - Which Car? (http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/pricing.nsf/view-car-specs-data/4D0D155871685CB8CA257C270003A9F7)

You have to have a meridian sound system with tech pack.

Ahh that's good then yeah the 11 speaker is certainly a beautiful system very clear and sharp I love it and could just dream of the 17 speaker haha maybe the next one!!

[nat_89]

If you have the rear camera, you have the upgraded Meridian system & yes, only the HSE gets the 17 speaker system...shame.

Garreth & Guy have done our deal, but it was Garreth who also gave us the Land Rover Corporate deal package at no cost..

Can I ask what colour you got & post some pic's. Ours will be Loire Blue, May/June seems sooooo far away

tiddy

Yeah Garreth is a top bloke very friendly and just really nice to, i also got the corporate programme which i guess kinda helps free services makes a big difference.

Mine is the MY13 with Land Rover on the bonnet White HSE i just couldn't wait to order a new one it would get the better of me haha

I love it I'm so happy i chose the Disco its just an awesome car can't speak more highly of it!!

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