LATEST FACTS ON DEFENDER SUPPLY

[ramblingboy42]

I have just finished talking to Lyntons and their latest bulletin from Solihull says the following.

1. 130 cab/chassis last order opportunity March 2014 for final June production , delivery August 2014.....no more 130c/c after that.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

2. 110 hcpu, hardtop, same as above.:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

3. 90 and 110wagons will continue production invarious forms with last orders to be taken August 2014 for 2015 deliveries.:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

I'm seeing them this afternoon.
Dennis

[B92 8NW]

Yeah I'm in the same boat, going to talk to my accountant this afternoon and then make a time to drop into a dealership next week. Thankfully there has been some renewed interest in the car I have for sale and if that sells privately will go a long way to striking a deal on a new 110 SW.

Definitely don't want too leave it too late and miss out.

[ramblingboy42]

Well, a lot of people will miss out.

Yibbeda, Yibbeda, Yibbeda......that's all folks.

[sashadidi]

Yes that is the same basic message the NZ distributors are giving

[incisor]

here i sit broken hearted... [bawl]

am no chance of getting my new hardtop....

[clive22]

Hi

I was going to buy a 130 Double Cab HCPU order middle of this year should I do it Now?



Clive

[ramblingboy42]

March is cut-off date Clive.....do it now.

[ramblingboy42]

here i sit broken hearted... [bawl]

am no chance of getting my new hardtop....

same to you dave.....do it now.

[MR LR]

This about the only time vehicle finance looks any good haha!

[Pickles2]

Unreal, so final order date for Defender in Aus is Aug 2014?
I reckon lots of people are gonna miss out.
Thanks for the info. Pickles.

[Mr.Bear]

But then in 2015 there will be a spiffing new Defender replacement to buy........

[uninformed]

But then in 2015 there will be a spiffing new Defender replacement to buy........

maybe a broucher....but the actual vehicle will be at least another 2 years.

[Pickles2]

But then in 2015 there will be a spiffing new Defender replacement to buy........
Will not happen in 2015.
Pickles.

[OffTrack]

But then in 2015 there will be a spiffing new Defender replacement to buy........

It's more likely to be 2016 or even 2017 before there is a Defender Replacement available.

[loanrangie]

And who knows if we will even want it, they might just put a 1.6ltr in it the way they are heading :(.

[PTC]

Hi

I was going to buy a 130 Double Cab HCPU order middle of this year should I do it Now?



Clive

Haha you only want a 130 because mine is bigger than yours :P

We should get Andy to order a few of them as work trucks. They can hold 5, have a big enough tray and can tow whatever we need.

[incisor]

same to you dave.....do it now.

if there was a way i could, i would ....

but alas unless they want to go halves and have their name all over the "official" aulro mobile it is a sorry story :angel:

[bawl]

[ramblingboy42]

I have an apology to make.

The 130 crew cab hcpu cab/chassis will still be available until last order August2014.

.....did I hear some sighs of relief?

[LandyAndy]

here i sit broken hearted... [bawl]

am no chance of getting my new hardtop....

There is a chance.
Say 10 Hail Lotto Godz every nite;););););)
Im looking for their support in getting a D4;););););)
Andrew

[ramblingboy42]

I have to admit, I was not that excited about the 130.

I got out of my 15yo d2 got into the brand new Defender , a demo with 2000km on it, drove it for about an hour, got a backache and sweaty, had difficulty driving it smoothly.

I know it's what I really need to see out my life , but I was really pleased when I got back into my d2.....it's like an old soft pair of gloves.

I am now confused in my mind.

[digger]

The gear thing is like any car, you need to get used to it, they are geared differently...

The seating thing is probably because you sat like you would in the Disco and
not like you should in a defender, sit up man!!


The sweating... MMMM are you maybe "going through the change?" :eek:

as for being confused in your mind...where else do you get confused??

Now Im confused...... :)

G'arn you know you do want one.

[chuck]

Rambling Boy

You have to test drive them for longer.

I had a test drive and it went like this
MLR to home about 30 min - did not like
Home to sons about 30 min - starting to like
Sons to MLR about 60 min - wanted to buy one.

Ended up buying a D4 but that is another storey.

[FeatherWeightDriver]

But I was really pleased when I got back into my d2.....it's like an old soft pair of gloves.

I think you just answered you own question... ;)

[ramblingboy42]

It was a hot day on the coast yesterday....caught a lot of people by surprise.

The a/c worked well, it was really the vinyl seats.....I have thick lambswool.

I managed to drive it fairly smoothly double clutching, but I didn't think I would need to do that.....that I can easily get used to.

If I put the lambswools on the fender seats it might work.

The radio/stereo is hopeless.

I had an idea, dont know if I've bounced it around.....sound bars for a home entertainment unit , surely they would do it.

What I need to do is drive one to William Ck. Does anyone hire Defenders?

[FeatherWeightDriver]

Does anyone hire Defenders?

This mob does, but they are based in Sydney and Cairns only:

https://bearrentals.com.au/about-us/

[Pickles2]

It was a hot day on the coast yesterday....caught a lot of people by surprise.

The a/c worked well, it was really the vinyl seats.....I have thick lambswool.

I managed to drive it fairly smoothly double clutching, but I didn't think I would need to do that.....that I can easily get used to.

If I put the lambswools on the fender seats it might work.

The radio/stereo is hopeless.

I had an idea, dont know if I've bounced it around.....sound bars for a home entertainment unit , surely they would do it.

What I need to do is drive one to William Ck. Does anyone hire Defenders?
Hello, we've recently bought a new 90.
I think you'll find the seats aren't vinyl, they're cloth. We had the vehicle up in the Mallee recently in 42C heat,...the A/C was good,...no sweaty bums!
Don't know why you would need to be Double De clutching,..we don't.
Radio/stereo hopeless,...Is that the stereo unit that is hopeless, or is it the "noise" that is shutting it out?!! Can't do a lot about the noise, but there again, "for a Defender", I reckon it's acceptable,....I mean, can you believe it?...a subwoofer in a Defender?!
C'mon, just buy one, you will NOT regret it.
Cheers, Pickles.

[numpty]

Hello, we've recently bought a new 90.
I think you'll find the seats aren't vinyl, they're cloth. We had the vehicle up in the Mallee recently in 42C heat,...the A/C was good,...no sweaty bums!
Don't know why you would need to be Double De clutching,..we don't.
Radio/stereo hopeless,...Is that the stereo unit that is hopeless, or is it the "noise" that is shutting it out?!! Can't do a lot about the noise, but there again, "for a Defender", I reckon it's acceptable,....I mean, can you believe it?...a subwoofer in a Defender?!
C'mon, just buy one, you will NOT regret it.
Cheers, Pickles.

130 seats always were vinyl in previous models, but I'm not sure re the newer ones.

[frantic]

It was a hot day on the coast yesterday....caught a lot of people by surprise.

The a/c worked well, it was really the vinyl seats.....I have thick lambswool.

I managed to drive it fairly smoothly double clutching, but I didn't think I would need to do that.....that I can easily get used to.

If I put the lambswools on the fender seats it might work.

The radio/stereo is hopeless.

I had an idea, dont know if I've bounced it around.....sound bars for a home entertainment unit , surely they would do it.

What I need to do is drive one to William Ck. Does anyone hire Defenders?
Doesn't one of the hire mobs near Fraser isl hire out defenders?

[austastar]

130 seats always were vinyl in previous models, but I'm not sure re the newer ones.

Hi
my 130cc 2009 has cloth seats.

Don't know what the fuss about the radio is, my gps comes through on it clear as a bell. Haven't found any thing else as interesting to listen to on it though.

I'm wrapped with mine, it is much more a 4wd than I am.

cheers

[RecMec]

Hmm, after having cardno/cardna/cardinal joint bundy off and prop shaft destroying the ZF last June I'm still having nightmares about keeping the D2. It's ten years old with 134 K on the odo, mostly OK but nightmares continue so thinking of taking advantage of LR's Main Event promo and tucking into a 110 wagon. :confused:

[dullbird]

Double Cardan :)

[ramblingboy42]

I got offered a new 110 with a few goodies thrown in as well for $49,500 on road as part of main event. Could swing me from a 130.

[RecMec]

"Double cardan" huh? Thanks Dullbird. Everyone I talk with calls it sumthin difrent.


Does anyone have any views, issues, comment on the 2.2 since it was introduced, they'll be earning a reputation of some sort by now. I'm wondering how it would take an upgrade remap via the Autologic.

[bob10]

"Double cardan" huh? Thanks Dullbird. Everyone I talk with calls it sumthin difrent.


Does anyone have any views, issues, comment on the 2.2 since it was introduced, they'll be earning a reputation of some sort by now. I'm wondering how it would take an upgrade remap via the Autologic.


The October 2013 issue of Land Rover owner International , issue 11, had an article, " Buying guide to the TDCi. ". Written by Peter Galilee. At the start he said , in part, " the transit engine has been good, but you need to choose wisely, though". In the section on 'engine;, he wrote;


"The TDCi diesel engine is best described as brutal, there's so much torque. Originally fitted to the Defender in 2.4 litre form, a 2.2 litre version of the same engine powers current models, having been redesigned to comply with emissions rules. He quotes the 4X4 owner of Gumtree 4X4 in West Sussex as saying ' we have not yet had to change an engine, compared to some previous L R engines, there's no real problems at all' ".


"and ' Sometimes EGR valves are problematic, . Symptoms include loss of power, and lots of black exhaust smoke. The engine management light may come on, but not always. ' From Gumtree 4X4 again - ' Injectors are sometimes faulty, it may misfire & be running rough and warning lights may show on the dash display, but that depends how bad the problem is. It would have to be a long way out of parameters to show a warning light, but you would know anyway, as the engine would be running unbalanced. We've had to replace a couple of throttle potentiometers. On older engines, catalytic converters could get blocked - the internals crumble and break up, then get blown back to the silencer and block it up, then you have no power. Shake the catalytic converter, if it rattles budget for replacing the converter & silencer.'


The 2.2 version introduced in 2012 includes a diesel particulate filter, . The DPF requires a regeneration cycle to clean itself, which happens when the vehicle is driven at operating temperature for about 20 minutes in high range at speeds more than 40 mph. On short trips, Defenders may never reach regeneration, so the DPF warning light comes on, then you have to carry out the regeneration process. The consequences of ignoring the DPF light are not clearly known.

Routine servicing can be carried out at home, although it is not as DYI friendly as earlier versions - the air filter is fiddly to extract, the oil filter a messy cartridge type in a vulnerable plastic housing, and the fuel filter, within a rear wheel arch, can be difficult to deal with. "


The article goes on to cover;


Transmission
Suspension, wheels & tyres
brakes
steering
electrics
exterior, bodywork & trim
internal structure & interior


The very last word is " cab is very cramped, so try before you buy "


Overall, problems , according to the article, are usually minor. And not expensive to fix. I would love one, Bob