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MY14D4
22nd February 2014, 09:12 AM
Ok guys, here it is. All things Related to the new 'Discovery' 2014 model. A place to share our latest findings about the car, our virgin moments, as well as project plans, ideas and the best buys getting around.

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MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

giskard
22nd February 2014, 09:18 AM
Curious as to the price you paid, configuration etc.

Cheers.

MY14D4
22nd February 2014, 09:56 AM
I paid around $85k for a 7 seater with rear air, reversing camera, leather interior and metallic paint. If your in SE Qld, and thinking of buying, I highly recommend Roger Hose at Austral Land Rover he offers superior customer service.


MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

MY14D4
22nd February 2014, 10:03 AM
Air compressors, I'm considering the ARB one you can mount under the bonnet. Has any one had any experienced with this, if so does it allow room for a spare battery?

wbowner
22nd February 2014, 12:19 PM
Hi,
Just tried to get the car to go up and down using the remote.

The key to doing this is that you have to have your hazard lights on before doing it. Just tried it and it worked.

Richard

CSBrisie
22nd February 2014, 12:21 PM
I recommend putting ARB in front of main battery; 2nd (Optima Yellow) battery in the 2nd battery box - Opposite Lock et al will move some pieces around in there to make it fit,
cheers

scarry
22nd February 2014, 12:46 PM
I recommend putting ARB in front of main battery; 2nd (Optima Yellow) battery in the 2nd battery box - Opposite Lock et al will move some pieces around in there to make it fit,
cheers

Or you can do it the other way around, traxide kit with yellow optima in front of main battery and air comp. other side.

MY14D4
22nd February 2014, 01:18 PM
Hi,
Just tried to get the car to go up and down using the remote.

The key to doing this is that you have to have your hazard lights on before doing it. Just tried it and it worked.

Richard

What a shame about the hazard lights! I wonder if you can program the car to go down automatically every time you park / lock the car for accessibility.


MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

tiddy
22nd February 2014, 03:54 PM
I paid around $85k for a 7 seater with rear air, reversing camera, leather interior and metallic paint. If your in SE Qld, and thinking of buying, I highly recommend Roger Hose at Austral Land Rover he offers superior customer service.


MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

Is that on road?....we don't get ours until May/June...the wait is killing me

tiddy

Redback
22nd February 2014, 04:09 PM
I feel so inadequate, mine is only a MY2011:(

Baz.

tiddy
22nd February 2014, 04:13 PM
I feel so inadequate, mine is only a MY2011:(

Baz.

Redback

Don't feel like that, I have waited to get ones of these since I first saw the D3 at the Brisbane motor show when they were first released.

Even now we won't get it until May/June, its agony I tell ya

tiddy

jonesy63
22nd February 2014, 04:26 PM
I feel so inadequate, mine is only a MY2011:(

Baz.

Baz - how are your 17" alloys and MT tyres going? :cool:

Redback
22nd February 2014, 04:42 PM
Baz - how are your 17" alloys and MT tyres going? :cool:

Excellent Rob, how are yours;)

Baz.

wbowner
22nd February 2014, 05:02 PM
Went for a drive today in my MY14.

Ran into some dirt road with a few corrugations not bad ones. The wife remarked how NOT noisy it was, although I detected a funny metal type rattle coming from the dash area on the drivers side. Have to look out for it later.

I also got my first chip. On the door. It is a tight fit in the garage as I have some equipment set up and my lovely wife opened the door on to it. A chip right on the door edge.

I am not sure but isn't this a shooting offense when done to your 3 day old new Discovery :censored: :rocket:

This car is a pleasure to drive.

The Meridian sound system supplied is very good.

I tried the OFFROAD option on the SATNAV. Did not look much different from the ONROAD version but may be where I was driving. The stuff I have on my IPAD is better than what I have seen so far but this is more convenient.

I have paired both mine and my wifes phones to the what ever it s called. It took a couple of goes but we got there. (I may delete hers after what she did to my car!!).

Only one can be active at a time for playing music or phoning.

I also tried out the voice recognition to make a phone call by
- Pressing the voice button
- Issuing the command 'phone call contact'. Note there are other command you can issue.
I was then prompted for the name which took a bit of doing.
As there were a few hits I then had select the one from a list (via saying a number)
I can't comment on the quality as I called my wife who was sitting next to me.

I believe you an improve this by doing some voice training. I will look into that later.

Richard

nat_89
22nd February 2014, 05:19 PM
I paid around $85k for a 7 seater with rear air, reversing camera, leather interior and metallic paint. If your in SE Qld, and thinking of buying, I highly recommend Roger Hose at Austral Land Rover he offers superior customer service.


MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

I wanted to buy one from Austral there price for a demo one was $2k more than Townsville and the one in Townsville had diff lock and elec steering column the answer I got from Austral was basically we sell so many cars a month and it will probably sell next week for nearly full retail so don't really mind not selling haha

discotwinturbo
22nd February 2014, 06:49 PM
Only one can be active at a time for playing music or phoning.

So you can't have your iPhone connected for calls, and another hooked in for music ? You can on MY12.
I have it setup iPhone under phone, and iPad under music. Music mutes when call comes in, and when the tomtom app gives directions.
Factory NAV is ordinary compared to after market with tomtom and hema.
Brett....

wbowner
22nd February 2014, 06:59 PM
So you can't have your iPhone connected for calls, and another hooked in for music ? You can on MY12.
I have it setup iPhone under phone, and iPad under music. Music mutes when call comes in, and when the tomtom app gives directions.
Factory NAV is ordinary compared to after market with tomtom and hema.
Brett....

Brett,
Not sure about that.
Are you connecting both of these through Bluetooth. My comment was based on two bluetooth connect devices.

I suspect you could have one bluetooth (phone) and one USB (IPAD) connection running together.

What I found was after pairing my wifes phone we had to hit a Change Device (i think it was called - I was driving and she was doing it) to change to her phone so we could play music off her phone.

May be we did something wrong. Let me know if you have two a active bluetooth connections and I will have another go.

Richard

discotwinturbo
22nd February 2014, 07:39 PM
Hi Richard,

Both are through Bluetooth.

Connect phone, then go into music, my music, then select change device...select iPad or iPhone that you wish to connect, then both connected.

But only one for phone, and one for music.

Setting will remain the same from that point onwards.

Brett....

Jimlr
22nd February 2014, 07:44 PM
Another June due date here, and since it's killing me too, I've (badly) 'shopped what I've spec'd up - and stuck up in the shed. Doing a semi black pack thing on a Corris HSE, with most of the options list ticked.

wbowner
22nd February 2014, 07:51 PM
Hi Richard,

Both are through Bluetooth.

Connect phone, then go into music, my music, then select change device...select iPad or iPhone that you wish to connect, then both connected.

But only one for phone, and one for music.

Setting will remain the same from that point onwards.

Brett....

Brett,
Many thanks, I will give it a go.

Easy to get lost in all these menus etc.

If you have two phones paired can either of them receive phone calls without having to nominate one . I can test this as well later. this would be nice if it does work.

Richard

discotwinturbo
22nd February 2014, 07:54 PM
Hi Richard,

Only one can be connected to the phone part at a time. First one in the car, is the one it chooses.

Brett...

wbowner
22nd February 2014, 08:01 PM
While picking my car up I heard and then talk to one of the sale men saying he had received a note from LR saying that they can not install LR bars on MY14 Discos - any model.

My salesman mentioned that the front sensors appeared to be in different locations to previous models. This could explain above. I am unsure if any change to rear sensor locations

So my question is:- does any one know whether there is now NEW issues with ARB bull bar installations and Kaymar rear bars with respect to the sensors for the MY14 .

I was also told that there could be warranty issues if other than the LR bull bar is fitted. A bit of a dilemma I reckon :).

Richard

Edit: perhaps I should rephrase the question to "has any one installed a Kaymar rear bar and/or ARB bull bar with sensors to a MY14 discovery"

discotwinturbo
22nd February 2014, 08:25 PM
Richard,

Certainly no warranty issues.....it's actual illegal for them to make a statement like that, and a severe breach of the current trade practices laws.

Warranty issue only occurs if that part causes a problem. Then arb or ol would then have the issue to sort out.

The onus is on them to prove a part not supplied by them caused the fault.

I was given the same rot, in writing, about my Goe rims....bit silly them doing that, and once I pointed out their breach, they quickly clarified what they mean...and got that in writing too.

Brett....

wbowner
22nd February 2014, 09:02 PM
Hi Richard,

Only one can be connected to the phone part at a time. First one in the car, is the one it chooses.

Brett...

Thanks for that - it makes sense. I think my wifes car has a similar set up, I just hadn't thought to much about it before as she is the first in the car and the one who gets the phone calls.

It would be good if it would react to either one but I think that is a limitation of bluetooth.

Richard

wbowner
23rd February 2014, 10:04 AM
On p200 they have info on checking the oil. On writing this I think I now understand.

Any way here is the info incase any other confused people like me :)

There is a display which shows you the oil level this is great and I have this on the TDV6.

However on this page bullet 2 it talks about adding oil:

"Add oil as instructed by the dipstick display (3.0 SD V6 and V6 petrol engines) or to maintain the level between the MIN and MAX marks or notches on the dipstick (3.0 TD V6 Diesel engines) "

As said I have the display so was wandering why I should then use the dipstick. I first thought I had to then go and pull out the dipstick as normal.

I believe what this means is that the TDV6 does not tell you how much oil is required, you have to determine this by looking at the notches in the DISPLAY :)


Funny enough on bullet 4 is states to wait 10 minutes before checking again for the SDV6 and 5 minutes for the TDV6.


On page 219 under replacement tyres
One of the points made here state "Do not rotate the tyres around the vehicle"

Once again on writing I think I understand. I believe this statement is true only when you have replaced a couple of tyres. If you have replace all the tyres I would assume normal rotation including the spare would/should occur.

Sorry about the above obvious points but I think I have been reading the handbook to much late at night. Things look different in the day as I have found when writing the above. If nothing else have a chuckle at a new paranoid owner trying to make sure all is OK. Perhaps i should go and have a drive.

Richard

Orangi
23rd February 2014, 07:26 PM
What a shame about the hazard lights! I wonder if you can program the car to go down automatically every time you park / lock the car for accessibility.


MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.


That would be ideal.

~Rich~
23rd February 2014, 07:32 PM
Gotta love what this guy has achieved with his D3:
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - D3/4 to all New MY14 2014 (B4) complete transformation (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic107688.html)

Yes it would be expensive here though.

scarry
23rd February 2014, 07:51 PM
Gotta love what this guy has achieved with his D3:
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - D3/4 to all New MY14 2014 (B4) complete transformation (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic107688.html)

Yes it would be expensive here though.

geez he is crazy,whatever rocks your boat i suppose.....:D

Anyway,i like his rego plate:eek:

Gus67kg
23rd February 2014, 07:59 PM
Picking mine up on Tuesday, took advantage of the free on roads that L R have been offering. A little disappointed in the trade in though.

phl
23rd February 2014, 08:48 PM
I tried the OFFROAD option on the SATNAV. Did not look much different from the ONROAD version but may be where I was driving. The stuff I have on my IPAD is better than what I have seen so far but this is more convenient.

The off road mode means the icon for the car doesn't snap to the closest road, nothing more. But in my MY13, it had all the road around the Vic High Country in the system, which surprised me. Certainly not as much detail as in the HEMA on iPad, but it was reassuring seeing both agree.

tiddy
23rd February 2014, 09:01 PM
geez he is crazy,whatever rocks your boat i suppose.....:D

Anyway,i like his rego plate:eek:

I agree, his money I guess, but when it's all said & done he still has a MY13 D4

tiddy
23rd February 2014, 09:24 PM
Another June due date here, and since it's killing me too, I've (badly) 'shopped what I've spec'd up - and stuck up in the shed. Doing a semi black pack thing on a Corris HSE, with most of the options list ticked.

Very nice

Basil135
23rd February 2014, 09:44 PM
What a shame about the hazard lights! I wonder if you can program the car to go down automatically every time you park / lock the car for accessibility.


MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

It can't (won't ?) be programmed, as it is a "safety" feature. If the car automatically lowered, there is a risk of someone, or something, being under it.

Trust me, you will soon get into a pattern of as you pull up, you just reach down with your left hand, and push the button.

The family has even been trained to wait until the car lowers, or they will fall out :twisted:

Oh, and if you feel you want side steps, leave the car in extended mode each time SWMBO needs to get in & out. The comment that, "wow, this is high. You should get some side steps" usually takes about 3 days, or 5 "climbs" ;)

SBD4
23rd February 2014, 10:11 PM
I agree, his money I guess, but when it's all said & done he still has a MY13 D4

Actually, it is D3!:o

Mungus
23rd February 2014, 11:08 PM
[QUOTE=wbowner;2093736]While picking my car up I heard and then talk to one of the sale men saying he had received a note from LR saying that they can not install LR bars on MY14 Discos - any model.

My salesman mentioned that the front sensors appeared to be in different locations to previous models. This could explain above. I am unsure if any change to rear sensor locations

So my question is:- does any one know whether there is now NEW issues with ARB bull bar installations and Kaymar rear bars with respect to the sensors for the MY14 .
QUOTE]


If that is the only reason, would there be a problem with installing the front sensors in the existing location of the current ARB bar? I don't see the option for a factory bar in the 'configure' on the LRA website!

wbowner
24th February 2014, 06:55 AM
[QUOTE=wbowner;2093736]While picking my car up I heard and then talk to one of the sale men saying he had received a note from LR saying that they can not install LR bars on MY14 Discos - any model.

My salesman mentioned that the front sensors appeared to be in different locations to previous models. This could explain above. I am unsure if any change to rear sensor locations

So my question is:- does any one know whether there is now NEW issues with ARB bull bar installations and Kaymar rear bars with respect to the sensors for the MY14 .
QUOTE]


If that is the only reason, would there be a problem with installing the front sensors in the existing location of the current ARB bar? I don't see the option for a factory bar in the 'configure' on the LRA website!

I am unsure why I was just guessing. Bound to be other reasons. The sales guy could not understand why either.

Not sure why it isn't on the website.

Richard

Tombie
24th February 2014, 10:38 AM
What a shame about the hazard lights! I wonder if you can program the car to go down automatically every time you park / lock the car for accessibility.


MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

Not if you were offroad or in some scenario where lowering it would drop it onto something!!!!

As mentioned by Basil... It becomes second nature to tap the button as you are approaching your destination. The vehicle then commences lowering once vehicle speed lowers and by the time you stop and idle down (10 seconds or so) you're good to go!!!!

CSBrisie
24th February 2014, 12:17 PM
Oh, and if you feel you want side steps, leave the car in extended mode
each time SWMBO needs to get in & out. The comment that, "wow, this is high.
You should get some side steps" usually takes about 3 days, or 5 "climbs" ;)
[/QUOTE]

:D Very clever, I laughed out loud at that!!!!!!

FeatherWeightDriver
24th February 2014, 01:20 PM
Picking mine up on Tuesday, took advantage of the free on roads that L R have been offering. A little disappointed in the trade in though.

As one salesman once told me in the final stages of buying a previous vehicle "Best I can do is I can lower you sale price by $1k, or increase your trade-in by $1k, but not both. Choose whichever one makes you happy..."

Jimlr
24th February 2014, 01:50 PM
Can anyone who has taken delivery, confirm if there a service book which gets stamped, or if all the service records are online, including the PDI (pre delivery inspection)? How do they "stamp" those?

nat_89
24th February 2014, 03:15 PM
Can anyone who has taken delivery, confirm if there a service book which gets stamped, or if all the service records are online, including the PDI (pre delivery inspection)? How do they "stamp" those?

It's all done online now and from what I understand there is a website from land rover you can go to to access the records, that's what I was lead to believe when I picked up mine.

wbowner
24th February 2014, 04:21 PM
It's all done online now and from what I understand there is a website from land rover you can go to to access the records, that's what I was lead to believe when I picked up mine.

Definitely no stamped book and I was told that it was online and therefore accessable by all LR dealers.

Whether true or not I can not say.

I did not know if we had access as well though.

Richard

wbowner
24th February 2014, 04:35 PM
I have been playing with the voice commands to initiate phone calls and navigation.

You can start a voice training session for two users which helps it recognize the commands.

So far seems good, it did work better after the voice training.

As this is my first LR I am not sure if this is old hat to you LR veterans but is my first car with this facility.

On another note. I am trying to use the standard LR tow bar. It s very low and I found my existing trailer ball mounts would not fit, they hit the spare tyre.

A visit to the local caravan shop has hopefully sorted that one out.

I also use a stonestomper when towing. I found that with the low tow bar there was a big gap between the car rear bumper bar and the stomper. This is not good. I contacted Christian from stonestomper who as usual was very helpful. They sell an extension piece for $20 which should resolve the problem.
I will post some pics if people are interested, next week after I get it.

Richard

Jimlr
24th February 2014, 04:59 PM
Definitely no stamped book and I was told that it was online and therefore accessable by all LR dealers.



Whether true or not I can not say.



I did not know if we had access as well though.



Richard


Can we get to it through Topix then?

wbowner
24th February 2014, 05:18 PM
Can we get to it through Topix then?

Not sure, I don't know much about Topix but there is a SERVICE button there. Whether it caters for Australia is another issue but I did find details of my car there.

Richard

discotwinturbo
24th February 2014, 05:43 PM
On another note. I am trying to use the standard LR tow bar. It s very low and I found my existing trailer ball mounts would not fit, they hit the spare tyre. A visit to the local caravan shop has hopefully sorted that one out. I also use a stonestomper when towing. I found that with the low tow bar there was a big gap between the car rear bumper bar and the stomper. This is not good. I contacted Christian from stonestomper who as usual was very helpful. They sell an extension piece for $20 which should resolve the problem. I will post some pics if people are interested, next week after I get it. Richard

You need a Mitch hitch. Christian gives great customer service.

Brett....

wbowner
24th February 2014, 06:03 PM
You need a Mitch hitch. Christian gives great customer service.

Brett....
Brett,
You are probably right but I have a few other things on the list and wanted to get on the road ASAP.

I am considering a Kaymar bar and SWC, if the money is there I may get one then but want to try the existing set up first.

Richard

tiddy
24th February 2014, 06:05 PM
Actually, it is D3!:o

I stand corrected, but in that case, it makes him even more of a tosser.

tiddy

Tombie
24th February 2014, 06:24 PM
I stand corrected, but in that case, it makes him even more of a tosser.



tiddy


Why? It now looks like a new one and has cost him far less than upgrading...

And he's then been good enough to share it with the LR community...

Personally, the D3 interior is far more practical for offroad use whilst the D4 looks nicer externally...

He's got the best of both for a fraction of the price...

Those that keep upgrading are also throwing money away - so what's the difference?!

~Rich~
24th February 2014, 06:38 PM
I wonder where it would stand in the resale market?
Worth more than a standard D3 but enough to cover his costs?

If I end up deciding to hang onto my D3 I'd like to swap the rear lights and get an updated D4 looking grille. I say congrats to this guy to have the guts and post online his efforts.

Tombie
24th February 2014, 10:02 PM
Exactly... It's not always Capitalism that triumphs... Sometimes it's just about having something you like and enjoy.

I never buy a vehicle thinking about the resale. That's a shallow and materialistic way to live (and frankly, quite sad).

I will enjoy my vehicle and modify how I like, and if it becomes worthless or overcapitalised then so be it... I think I've overcapitalised on all my vehicles since day dot...

tiddy
24th February 2014, 10:13 PM
Why? It now looks like a new one and has cost him far less than upgrading...

And he's then been good enough to share it with the LR community...

Personally, the D3 interior is far more practical for offroad use whilst the D4 looks nicer externally...

He's got the best of both for a fraction of the price...

Those that keep upgrading are also throwing money away - so what's the difference?!

Yep...all valid points, no worse I guess that getting the latest flat panels or 5.1, 7.1 or 7.2 surround systems all the time, what ever floats ya boat

tiddy

Jimlr
28th February 2014, 02:15 PM
Can anyone with a delivered 14MY car confirm if the 4x4 info and off-road nav screens are active?
Some chat on here previously about earlier d4's not coming standard with it activated, and dealers not being able to do it....

Also did you guys get a commission number and VIN during the ordering process?

wbowner
28th February 2014, 06:11 PM
Can anyone with a delivered 14MY car confirm if the 4x4 info and off-road nav screens are active?
Some chat on here previously about earlier d4's not coming standard with it activated, and dealers not being able to do it....

Also did you guys get a commission number and VIN during the ordering process?

Hi,
Offroad nav is active but you have to choose it. If you press the NAV button twice you will be shown a screen where you can pick offroad or on road.

I got my VIN before I got the car, not sure how soon it is available.

I have brought up the 4x4 info screen but As yet have not used the options

Richard

Blue C
1st March 2014, 10:27 PM
................I also use a stonestomper when towing. I found that with the low tow bar there was a big gap between the car rear bumper bar and the stomper. This is not jgood. I contacted Christian from stonestomper who as usual was very helpful. They sell an extension piece for $20 which should resolve the problem.
I will post some pics if people are interested, next week after I get it.

Richard

Hi Richard
I am thinking of trying the standard hitch for my MY14 D4 (due end April)at least initially as I want to try and keep the rear sensors working and with (future) rear wheel carrier and Mitch hitch that is near on impossible. I also have the stone stomper with my D3 + camper and so would be very interested to see your pictures. I also agree Christian provides great service- he fitted my stone stomper at home on Xmas Eve several yrs ago! Regards, David

wbowner
1st March 2014, 11:30 PM
Hi Richard
I am thinking of trying the standard hitch for my MY14 D4 (due end April)at least initially as I want to try and keep the rear sensors working and with (future) rear wheel carrier and Mitch hitch that is near on impossible. I also have the stone stomper with my D3 + camper and so would be very interested to see your pictures. I also agree Christian provides great service- he fitted my stone stomper at home on Xmas Eve several yrs ago! Regards, David

I am hoping to get the stomper extension bar during the week and will try it out.

When I do I will post some pics. Hopefully it will work ok


Richard

An addition
I believe there are two different brackets used for attach the stonestomper
One sits under the the tow ball and another sits on the shaft of the tow ball mount. I have the one that sits on the shaft. If you have the other type you could be OK.

Pic of current situation and bracket

wbowner
2nd March 2014, 07:07 AM
Other pic of the bracket. I will post the new stuff when I get it.
This one shows the bracket I have on the stonestomper

Richard

MY14D4
3rd March 2014, 06:32 PM
Has anybody seen this pic of the MY14 getting around the internet, I was admiring its winch, without the use of a bullbar. Has anybody else here trialled this setup?

73667

chuck
3rd March 2014, 08:44 PM
It is a Land Rover option.

If you go on to the website you will find it under accessories.

Very expensive - I believe in the order of $4k + fitting which is an 8 - 10 hour exercise.

~Rich~
3rd March 2014, 08:51 PM
I can't believe it would be legal in Australia.
They frown on bull bar attachments let alone a winch sticking out the front by itself.

Graeme
3rd March 2014, 09:15 PM
On another note. I am trying to use the standard LR tow bar. It s very low and I found my existing trailer ball mounts would not fit, they hit the spare tyre.
From your later pic of your StoneStomper bar your towbar insert seems to be upside down which would make it so low.

wbowner
3rd March 2014, 10:50 PM
From your later pic of your StoneStomper bar your towbar insert seems to be upside down which would make it so low.

As the stomper fits on to the shaft it would not matter which way the insert (ie trailer ball mount - TBM) is inserted, there still would be a gap. I have the TBM inverted in the second picture. Unfortunately it is not that clear.

Richard

wbowner
4th March 2014, 06:38 PM
Hi Richard
I am thinking of trying the standard hitch for my MY14 D4 (due end April)at least initially as I want to try and keep the rear sensors working and with (future) rear wheel carrier and Mitch hitch that is near on impossible. I also have the stone stomper with my D3 + camper and so would be very interested to see your pictures. I also agree Christian provides great service- he fitted my stone stomper at home on Xmas Eve several yrs ago! Regards, David
David,
I sent you a pm.

Richard

wbowner
5th March 2014, 01:44 PM
I finally got to try out the trailer ball mount (TBM) today with the standard LR hitch.

Because I have had to get a trailer ball mount with a significant rise I am finding the reverse sensors are going off. I haven't found which one and I can just switch the sound off it still is a pain. I think this is better than covering the sensor as other have done as it is only an issue when I want to tow and the TBM is in.

On another note:
It appears that the front sensors for the MY14 have moved a bit (according to the sale man). I am unsure about the back. I contacted both Opposite Lock and Kaymar to see if their spare wheel carriers will cause sensor problems.

OL said they do.
Kaymar said they have not seen a MY14 Discovery.

Richard

wbowner
6th March 2014, 01:50 PM
I would recommend that any MY14 disco owners who plan to get an ARB bull bar installed to contact them first. In fact any bull bar company

As the front of the MY 14 has changed the sensors and headlight washers do not line up. I had this confirmed by ARB.

This is probably why the dealers were told to not install the LR bar on the MY14

Richard

Mungus
6th March 2014, 10:07 PM
Surely it is only a matter of time before they have one! Boss just got a new Playdo - Silly man and said that ARB haven't got a bar for that either yet.

wbowner
6th March 2014, 10:33 PM
Surely it is only a matter of time before they have one! Boss just got a new Playdo - Silly man and said that ARB haven't got a bar for that either yet.

Agree

Disco4shaw
7th March 2014, 08:42 AM
Hi all just thought I'd relate the most disappointing event in my time as a Disco 4 2011 owner. On our way back home from a great weekend in Melbourne last Monday we were cruising along the freeway with no hint of any problems in my recently out of warranty 2011 Discovery 4 HSE TDV6.
I had just passed another vehicle, so was in the right lane, when there was a slight shudder and the Disco lost all power. I quickly indicated left so I could coast to a safe section off to the left shoulder of the freeway.
I don't know whether I had a premonition of this happening but in December I had purchased a 2 year extended warranty from LR Morwell for $3k.
Having this warranty in place meant I was able to ring Roadside assist to flatbed the Disco to the dealer at Morwell and order a hire car.
On Wed the worst was confirmed that my Discovery had a broken crankshaft. This was extremely disappointing as we recently sold our FPV as we thought we would only need one car in our retirement, little did we know!
I am in the process of extending the car hire as the Disco probably won't be repaired until the end of March.
The claim itself is still in progress so hopefully there will be no issues.
This post is for the information of any Disco owner who's vehicle is approaching warranty expiry, you should seriously consider the extension as it protects you for a further 100,000kms if you intend keeping the vehicle. If you decide to sell you should ask for a higher price as it will give the purchaser peace of mind as the warranty is transferable.
I hope this post is helpful to you guys, I'll keep you up to date on the claim and how it's handled.

SBD4
7th March 2014, 09:44 AM
Hi all just thought I'd relate the most disappointing event in my time as a Disco 4 2011 owner. On our way back home from a great weekend in Melbourne last Monday we were cruising along the freeway with no hint of any problems in my recently out of warranty 2011 Discovery 4 HSE TDV6.
I had just passed another vehicle, so was in the right lane, when there was a slight shudder and the Disco lost all power. I quickly indicated left so I could coast to a safe section off to the left shoulder of the freeway.
I don't know whether I had a premonition of this happening but in December I had purchased a 2 year extended warranty from LR Morwell for $3k.
Having this warranty in place meant I was able to ring Roadside assist to flatbed the Disco to the dealer at Morwell and order a hire car.
On Wed the worst was confirmed that my Discovery had a broken crankshaft. This was extremely disappointing as we recently sold our FPV as we thought we would only need one car in our retirement, little did we know!
I am in the process of extending the car hire as the Disco probably won't be repaired until the end of March.
The claim itself is still in progress so hopefully there will be no issues.
This post is for the information of any Disco owner who's vehicle is approaching warranty expiry, you should seriously consider the extension as it protects you for a further 100,000kms if you intend keeping the vehicle. If you decide to sell you should ask for a higher price as it will give the purchaser peace of mind as the warranty is transferable.
I hope this post is helpful to you guys, I'll keep you up to date on the claim and how it's handled.

Wow, first I have have read on this happening to a 3.0 litre engine - that is a concern. I got the extended warranty on mine too - peace of mind is worth every penny.

I hope it gets sorted out with minimal fuss.

wbowner
7th March 2014, 02:18 PM
Hi,
Has anyone had a aux tank installed in a MY14 discovery.

Just wandering if this will interfere with the feature that stops you from filling the tank (the main one) with petrol instead of diesel.


Richard

Answer: you will lose it

MY14D4
7th March 2014, 05:06 PM
Reference the Auxiliary tank, Did you have a particular brand in mind, and are you going to mount it in the spare wheel well? I am also considering this option, however I was under the impression that I would get one that was piggybacked onto the main tank, and filled via the existing filler cap (therefore retaining the feature you mentioned which is just a ' metal flap' in the line.) at the flick of a switch a pump would pump spare fuel into the main tank.

wbowner
7th March 2014, 05:43 PM
Reference the Auxiliary tank, Did you have a particular brand in mind, and are you going to mount it in the spare wheel well? I am also considering this option, however I was under the impression that I would get one that was piggybacked onto the main tank, and filled via the existing filler cap (therefore retaining the feature you mentioned which is just a ' metal flap' in the line.) at the flick of a switch a pump would pump spare fuel into the main tank.

Hi,
I have contacted LRA. They replace the standard filler with a twin neck filler, so in that case the feature is lost.

I tried to contact Long Ranger, as distributed by ARB, but they referred me back to ARB and I have not heard back from them yet. May be they or one of the other variants use a different approach.

It would be good to hear from other people who have them. I suspect if they use a twin filler then it will be the same, I hope I am wrong.

Richard

MY14D4
7th March 2014, 05:45 PM
Be sure to keep us updated on the forum Richard, am looking forward to reading what you can find, and how it all goes.

discotwinturbo
7th March 2014, 07:24 PM
Would not have thought the MY14 would have a different setup to the MY12.

I have an OL tank, and mis fuel device still works fine....tested it.

Brett.....

sniegy
7th March 2014, 08:02 PM
Didn't know that, On all the aftermarket tanks i have seen the LR Safety device has been removed.
Got any photo's?

Cheers

Tombie
7th March 2014, 08:09 PM
Long Ranger replaces the filler also...

Advantage... Hi flow pumps fit :)

Tombie
7th March 2014, 08:12 PM
Keep in mind, piggyback and self transferring tanks can mean all the fuel can be lost if tank is holed!

Plus the separate aux can be fitted with a water separator to filter fuel before it goes to the main tank.

discotwinturbo
7th March 2014, 08:44 PM
Long Ranger replaces the filler also... Advantage... Hi flow pumps fit :)

That would be handy....as I would love to fit a hi flo down the neck, as it takes so long.

I will take some pics tomorrow Peter.

Brett....

discotwinturbo
7th March 2014, 08:47 PM
Fuel fills via OL tank when filling up, then flows to the original tank.....reason why they probably don't remove the LR mis fuel device.

Brett....

Jimlr
7th March 2014, 09:02 PM
Is there a height "reminder" label under the sunvisor or something - forgot to look on demo car. Pics?

Tombie
7th March 2014, 10:38 PM
Is there a height "reminder" label under the sunvisor or something - forgot to look on demo car. Pics?


Yes.. But why would you want a pic?
It's in the brochure ;)

wbowner
7th March 2014, 11:17 PM
Hi,
I looked up the Opposite lock aux tank - see below.

In the others they have a twin filling system, so you fill one tank then you fill the other. With the OL one it appears there is a Y connection inline going to both tanks.
My thoughts
Advantages
You may be able to keep the feature to stop petrol being loaded
You do not have to move the nozzle

Disadvantages
80 litres - 20 litres less than others
Not sure if I prefer filling the tanks at the same time.
They may have issues with hi flow

I reckon if you get into the habit of filling the aux tank first you have a good chance of realising you are putting in petrol before filling the main tank. Sounds silly I know.


OL AIX tank details
Fuel tank to suit LAndrover Discovery 3&4

S/Steel Aux Fuel Tank 80Lt (replaces Spare wheel)

Made from 3CR12 stainless steel for excellent corrosion resistance.

Uses the space where the spare wheel was located. Fills via a Y filler located in the main tank filler line so that both tanks fill together.

A transfer pump is included in the kit and would be wired to a switch inside the vehicle to allow fuel transfer whilst travelling.

The tank is very strong and allows sufficient space around it for normal servicing etc. An optional HD steel guard is also available for the more serious off roaders.

Please note that when filling this style of tank at a fast flow pump there may be issues blowback. It is always recomended to use standard pumps for filling.

discotwinturbo
7th March 2014, 11:50 PM
Hi, I looked up the Opposite lock aux tank - see below. In the others they have a twin filling system, so you fill one tank then you fill the other. With the OL one it appears there is a Y connection inline going to both tanks. My thoughts Advantages You may be able to keep the feature to stop petrol being loaded You do not have to move the nozzle Disadvantages 80 litres - 20 litres less than others Not sure if I prefer filling the tanks at the same time. They may have issues with hi flow I reckon if you get into the habit of filling the aux tank first you have a good chance of realising you are putting in petrol before filling the main tank. Sounds silly I know. OL AIX tank details Fuel tank to suit LAndrover Discovery 3&4 S/Steel Aux Fuel Tank 80Lt (replaces Spare wheel) Made from 3CR12 stainless steel for excellent corrosion resistance. Uses the space where the spare wheel was located. Fills via a Y filler located in the main tank filler line so that both tanks fill together. A transfer pump is included in the kit and would be wired to a switch inside the vehicle to allow fuel transfer whilst travelling. The tank is very strong and allows sufficient space around it for normal servicing etc. An optional HD steel guard is also available for the more serious off roaders. Please note that when filling this style of tank at a fast flow pump there may be issues blowback. It is always recomended to use standard pumps for filling.

I guess it's changed since mine being installed in Nov 11.

No transfer pump. OL tanks fills first....I can actually put 90 litres in, then stop, with original tank showing less than half as the fuel transfers to it, and then as you drive the original tank gauge will slowly increase to full. It has a non return valve between the two tanks.

Tank capacity is 95 litre.....the biggest fill I have done was 175 litres....which I guess original tank was extremely close to empty.

What you have quoted appears to be the Dolium tank which I did not go with as I needed to carry more fuel....Dolium tank has the optional bash plate. Maybe OL don't sell my tank anymore ?

Not a fan of long ranger due to the fuel pickup line corroding causing pump failure....a known fault, as advised by long ranger. Also on the CSR I had to gain access to the long ranger as the float extension provided broke, showed no fuel, so no fuel would transfer.

Liked the brown Davis tank for capacity, but a friend that sells them, told me they have had a significant number of returns due to welding failures.

Brett.....

BMKal
8th March 2014, 09:06 AM
I'd agree with Brett's comments. ;)

When I had mine fitted, they told me it was 80 litres. But I've regularly been able to get a lot more in than that. I always thought close to 100 litres - 95 litres sounds about right.

I have no trouble filling mine - hi flow still works OK but you have to be careful about the angle you hold the filler nozzle or it can "spit" back at you a bit.

With mine, the aux tank also fills first.

Redback
8th March 2014, 05:14 PM
Hi,
I looked up the Opposite lock aux tank - see below.

In the others they have a twin filling system, so you fill one tank then you fill the other. With the OL one it appears there is a Y connection inline going to both tanks.
My thoughts
Advantages
You may be able to keep the feature to stop petrol being loaded
You do not have to move the nozzle

Disadvantages
80 litres - 20 litres less than others
Not sure if I prefer filling the tanks at the same time.
They may have issues with hi flow

I reckon if you get into the habit of filling the aux tank first you have a good chance of realising you are putting in petrol before filling the main tank. Sounds silly I know.


OL AIX tank details
Fuel tank to suit LAndrover Discovery 3&4

S/Steel Aux Fuel Tank 80Lt (replaces Spare wheel)

Made from 3CR12 stainless steel for excellent corrosion resistance.

Uses the space where the spare wheel was located. Fills via a Y filler located in the main tank filler line so that both tanks fill together.

A transfer pump is included in the kit and would be wired to a switch inside the vehicle to allow fuel transfer whilst travelling.

The tank is very strong and allows sufficient space around it for normal servicing etc. An optional HD steel guard is also available for the more serious off roaders.

Please note that when filling this style of tank at a fast flow pump there may be issues blowback. It is always recomended to use standard pumps for filling.

I have the Outback Accessories AUX tank from Opposite lock, similar to the Stainless one but has 90ltrs, it drains into the main(gravity feed), so you fill your tank as normal, no Y, works really well.

Baz.

wbowner
8th March 2014, 05:31 PM
On the Opposite Lock web page they mention a transfer pump as included in a post above.

I guess there are different models around with different approaches.

Richard

Jimlr
8th March 2014, 06:00 PM
Yes.. But why would you want a pic?
It's in the brochure ;)


Missed that - doh!

Tombie
8th March 2014, 06:16 PM
Here's my take...
If you are that Inattentive that you can't remember what fuel to load then don't be driving, as you present a hazard to yourself and others :D

Stainless is a waste, diesel covered metal won't rust :)

90l isn't enough ;) it's never enough...

BMKal
9th March 2014, 11:25 AM
90l isn't enough ;) it's never enough...

Goes close though :D

On recent trip to Tassie, I topped up at Norseman and assumed that I would get through to Ceduna without stopping for fuel (used to be able to make Ceduna comfortably in Prado with 180 litre tanks).

The Disco made it from Norseman to Port Augusta without problem - still had plenty left in the main tank (admittedly we had a tail wind most of the way across).

On the way back, we camped at Coffin Bay for a few days. Fuelled up at Ceduna, and that got us right through to Kalgoorlie, with still more than half the main tank showing on the gauge when we got home.

Blue C
9th March 2014, 11:38 AM
I am putting the Long Range Automotive (LRA) tank on my new D4 (via PCB LR Adel). Very happy with the D3 version which I obtained through Opp Lock. The capacity is 108L and it has a transfer pump. It fills via separate nozzles- although both can be filled together if you prefer. Either way it's hi-flow filling compatible too. Happy to recommend it. Regards, David

wbowner
11th March 2014, 02:58 PM
Hi,
I finally got my MY14 disco connected to my van today.

It tows very well bout as I have found with setting this vehicle up there are issues.

1) Even though my indicators etc do work I believe the car is not recognising that I have a van attached. As has been mentioned before I believe this is because I have LED lights. A real pain as I was going to hit the road tomorrow.

2) I was trying to tune the Tekonsha P3. If you follow their guideline you are supposed to drive about 30kph, apply the manual know until the brakes lock up then back off a bit. I could not achieve that even at the highest setting (14). I have settled on 6.4 at the moment with a boost of B1
I also found the car was a bit jerky when slowing down to a stop. Not sure if I need to increase the setting or reduce. I guess testing required.

What setting are other people typically using? I know it will differ between van and vehicle but will give me an idea. On my previous car I had it set to about 6.4 - with the same van?

Richard

irondoc
11th March 2014, 06:29 PM
it seams they may have fixed the high-beam on the 2014 model - it looks different to mine (2011). Do they point into the trees like the old ones?

cheers
lucas

Meken
11th March 2014, 08:04 PM
I had the same with the fl2 & the van with the p3 - dialed it up & up & no lock up. Around 6.4v seems happy - van tips the scales at 1.6 t

Meken
11th March 2014, 08:08 PM
Ps it has huge off-road tyres on van - I 'm wondering if it's the tyre size that is preventing lock up

wbowner
12th March 2014, 11:28 AM
Did some more testing towing the van (about 1600kg )

The only way I can get the van to.car to stop without being jerky is to drop the Tekonsha P3 to 4.0v and no boost.

I am starting to suspect the brakes on my van.

Also my van has LED lighting and at this point I do not have the LED module installed. Trying to find out if this would have any impact.

Richard

Tombie
12th March 2014, 11:53 AM
Did some more testing towing the van (about 1600kg )

The only way I can get the van to.car to stop without being jerky is to drop the Tekonsha P3 to 4.0v and no boost.

I am starting to suspect the brakes on my van.

Also my van has LED lighting and at this point I do not have the LED module installed. Trying to find out if this would have any impact.

Richard

Only thing the LEDs are doing is not kicking the vehicle into knowing the trailer is there...

The lights are still working, the brake system still activates the module..

You could tow like that without any drama.

wbowner
12th March 2014, 02:19 PM
Only thing the LEDs are doing is not kicking the vehicle into knowing the trailer is there...

The lights are still working, the brake system still activates the module..

You could tow like that without any drama.

Tombie,
Thanks for that. You have answered my next question. Sniegy also just confirmed it (I have been harassing him with emails :).

At the moment I have it set to 3.6 with no boost and it is working OK. I may have to do some minor changes as I go and possibly use the boost in the city if required.
I had ordered one of the LED modules as well but it has not arrived yet (my fault as I had my mail on hold :)).

So nearly time to hit the road and see the grandkids.

Richard

Graeme
12th March 2014, 05:54 PM
At the moment I have it set to 3.6 with no boost and it is working OK.I'd be surprised if the van's brakes are doing much on this setting.

wbowner
12th March 2014, 06:54 PM
I'd be surprised if the van's brakes are doing much on this setting.

They seem to be when I use the manual override knob.

I also don't feel like I am being pushed when I am stopping.


BUT.. it does seem low to me as well and I will monitor it.

Richard

Meken
12th March 2014, 10:27 PM
I'd be surprised if the van's brakes are doing much on this setting.


Our van is about 1.6t loaded and I run the p3 a bit over 6v and it's pretty smooth ( no push or pull) (we have a freelander 2) remember 6v setting is the max the p3 will put through so you'd be doing some pretty hard braking to see 6v. Our display shows around 3-4v on normal city braking.

wbowner
13th March 2014, 02:56 AM
Our van is about 1.6t loaded and I run the p3 a bit over 6v and it's pretty smooth ( no push or pull) (we have a freelander 2) remember 6v setting is the max the p3 will put through so you'd be doing some pretty hard braking to see 6v. Our display shows around 3-4v on normal city braking.

Thank you for the reply.

My van is probably a bit heavier. It started as 1.3t but with extras and water I suspect in is still well under 2t.

From what you say above my situation does seem strange then.

When slowing down to a stop you probably would not use 6v and my max setting would be within the boundaries. So having it set higher than my 3.6v or even using boost should not make any difference in the slowing to stop scenario but it does. I started at 6 and went up to the max even but that was worse.

However, also from what you say, my setting of 3.6v should be OK. I would be a bit more comfortable if it was higher but then it becomes jerky when stopping. may be some more driving will help.

Richard

RHS58
13th March 2014, 06:36 AM
Jerky braking towing the van turned out to be the vans brake drums being out of round.

Graeme
13th March 2014, 06:45 AM
I've set mine's max to 11.0V with no boost for a light pop-top at around 1.2T with 30" tyres (245/70-17) on bedded-in new 10" brakes. Using the lever driving at slow speed will lock the wheels on gravel but not bitumen.

Meken
13th March 2014, 09:42 AM
Try no boost - mind was jerky at slower speeds (say like in roadworks traffic) when I had boost on. I would be suspect at running it so low all the time as isn't that putting extra load on the car brakes? In saying that though you have a roughly 1.5t trailer behind a 2.5t car - I have a 1.6t behind a 1.8t car

wbowner
13th March 2014, 01:53 PM
In my set the max volts is 3.6
In normal driving if you never do more than that having it set higher is no advantage

Mind you I am sure if I believe that 😄

Richard

stray dingo
13th March 2014, 01:57 PM
a bit late on last week's conversation, but I had the Dolium tank installed August last year (with bash plate). The main tank fills first, then overflows in the aux. The overflow is lower than the nozzle guard, so the guard has not been removed in the fitting.
Hi Flow is still the pain it was before, and even the standard gets some good blow back half the time.....

Celtoid
13th March 2014, 02:16 PM
I paid around $85k for a 7 seater with rear air, reversing camera, leather interior and metallic paint. If your in SE Qld, and thinking of buying, I highly recommend Roger Hose at Austral Land Rover he offers superior customer service.


MY14 Discovery 4, 7 seater TDV6.

Hi Mate,

On Monday I picked up a car a 'year' older than yours (MY13) for $85K.

However, it was only delivered to Australia in November and has only just got registered.

It's a SDV6 SE, seven seats, rear air, premium leather, electric seats, H&K sound, reverse camera, metallic paint, floor mats, mud flaps, boot liner, tow tongue & ball, tinted, delivered from Cairns.

No SATNAV or Bi-Xenon (like my old one) though which is a PITA.

Cheers,

Kev.

JPI
13th March 2014, 03:02 PM
Hi Mate,

On Monday I picked up a car a 'year' older than yours (MY13) for $85K.

However, it was only delivered to Australia in November and has only just got registered.

It's a SDV6 SE, seven seats, rear air, premium leather, electric seats, H&K sound, reverse camera, metallic paint, floor mats, mud flaps, boot liner, tow tongue & ball, tinted, delivered from Cairns.

No SATNAV or Bi-Xenon (like my old one) though which is a PITA.

Cheers,

Kev.

Hi Kev,
Who did you source your D4 through? I'm in the market to replace mine this month and am looking for a keen deal.
Cheers
John

wbowner
13th March 2014, 04:50 PM
a bit late on last week's conversation, but I had the Dolium tank installed August last year (with bash plate). The main tank fills first, then overflows in the aux. The overflow is lower than the nozzle guard, so the guard has not been removed in the fitting.
Hi Flow is still the pain it was before, and even the standard gets some good blow back half the time.....

To add to this I contacted Long Ranger via ARB who have assured me the feature is not lost.

Richard

Tombie
13th March 2014, 05:28 PM
To add to this I contacted Long Ranger via ARB who have assured me the feature is not lost.



Richard


Well that's incorrect information...

Long Ranger replaces the filler with a dual inlet unit which replaces all the upper portion including the misfuelling device.

Tombie
13th March 2014, 05:30 PM
Here...

That small bolt will do your head in!
74183

And here is the filler arrangement.
74184

Celtoid
13th March 2014, 06:00 PM
Hi Kev,
Who did you source your D4 through? I'm in the market to replace mine this month and am looking for a keen deal.
Cheers
John

Hi John,

I went through Trinity Auto Group in Cairns. Travis Adams was the salesman....he's new to LR but worked out pretty well in the end.

Essentially though, I just rang EVERY LR place in QLD. They will all transport the car as part of the deal...as well as window tint, etc. They may not know that at the start of the conversation but none of them argue once they know you are genuine.....LOL!!!

There are still lots of cars out there (Run-Outs and Ex Demo's), especially if you are OK with the TDV6. Cairns had another the same spec as mine, just Silver or Grey (?). Never registered, no K's. Southport had an Ex-Demo ... 6K on it but every bell and whistle under the sun.....but it was Black.....otherwise it would be sitting on my driveway now.. LOL!!! I'm not sure about the Main Event ..... as in, if it's over yet, but you could get still get good deals when I started ringing around. I didn't realise, but the factory .... as in LR Home Base in the UK, subsidise the pricing.

Anyway, once the sales people figure you are the real deal, they wiggle heaps. In the end you've always paid too much .... but hey, that's how it works .... LOL!!!

Good luck.

Kev.

wbowner
13th March 2014, 07:18 PM
Here...

That small bolt will do your head in!
74183

And here is the filler arrangement.
74184

Tombie,
Thanks for that. I suspect they have misunderstood what I asked then.

In the pics how much of the two pipes is new - I suspect all.

Richard

Tombie
13th March 2014, 07:23 PM
Tombie,

Thanks for that. I suspect they have misunderstood what I asked then.



In the pics how much of the two pipes is new - I suspect all.



Richard


The box at the top and the pipe furthest in image.
The front pipe is factory & has the top piece cut off and then attaches to the hose seen at top.

Graeme
13th March 2014, 07:56 PM
In my set the max volts is 3.6
In normal driving if you never do more than that having it set higher is no advantage

Mind you I am (not?) sure if I believe thatSo you don't want any more braking effort if you have to brake hard when the vehicle in front without a van stops abruptly? Set the limit so as to just not lock wheels with maximum braking using the lever and set boost off or at a level to get appropriate normal braking to allow the accelerometer-based controller to do its job.

Celtoid
13th March 2014, 08:46 PM
Picking mine up on Tuesday, took advantage of the free on roads that L R have been offering. A little disappointed in the trade in though.

I have a late 2009 build (MY10) D4 and have just purchased a MY13 Run Out model.

When I started shopping around it was obvious that I could lose as much as $10K if I traded in.

I opted to hold on to the older one for a private sale.

Here's hoping it works out OK.

Kev.

Meken
13th March 2014, 08:59 PM
Yes and as I understand it is proportional, so if you have it set to max 3.6v and are braking at about half pace you get 1.8v at the van or look at it another way - slam on the brakes hard (as if a kid has run out in front if the car) and all you'll get is 3.6 which is about what I get when I'm slowing for traffic lights ? Perhaps you have exceptionally efficient brakes on the van. Ps just thought you have it set on electric not electric over hydraulic ??

wbowner
13th March 2014, 09:56 PM
So you don't want any more braking effort if you have to brake hard when the vehicle in front without a van stops abruptly? Set the limit so as to just not lock wheels with maximum braking using the lever and set boost off or at a level to get appropriate normal braking to allow the accelerometer-based controller to do its job.
Graeme,
I am very concerned about my low setting and will be experimenting

I could not lock my wheels at even the max setting.

Richard

wbowner
13th March 2014, 10:11 PM
Yes and as I understand it is proportional, so if you have it set to max 3.6v and are braking at about half pace you get 1.8v at the van or look at it another way - slam on the brakes hard (as if a kid has run out in front if the car) and all you'll get is 3.6 which is about what I get when I'm slowing for traffic lights ? Perhaps you have exceptionally efficient brakes on the van. Ps just thought you have it set on electric not electric over hydraulic ??

As said above I am not happy with my setting and agree with you. I will be experimenting further, something is wrong. I had a guy look at it and he was the one who came up with 3.6 through trial and error. It was the only setting which gave a smooth stopping. It did stop the van using the manual knob, slowly. I have it set to electric. An E is shown on the screen.


Last year I towed the van with my old car a pajero and I had it set to 6.3 and it was fine.

I now gave a new D4, a new P3 brake controller and I have changed the trailer plug to a round. Also my van has been sitting idle for about 4 months and I suspect the brakes need adjusting. Could be spiders or ants built a nest in them.

I raised the issue to see if my concerns are founded. On the setting I have the car and van do stop ok but as you point out what would happen in the emergency situation. I have to take the van through Sydney soon and I will be using a higher setting and boost then. I can live with rough stopping in those situations.




Richard

Meken
13th March 2014, 10:16 PM
Maybe the brakes are a bit sticky & should be serviced ? Where did you get the p3 installed - have you tried a different van (got any mates with a van to try) maybe there's something wrong with the install ?

wbowner
13th March 2014, 10:53 PM
Maybe the brakes are a bit sticky & should be serviced ? Where did you get the p3 installed - have you tried a different van (got any mates with a van to try) maybe there's something wrong with the install ?

No one I know has a van so am buggered a bit there.

I had Peter Sniegy do the install so reckon it has been done right.

I am even thinking I may have done something wrong changing the plug over but all the lights etc work fine.

I do suspect the brakes and will get them checked.

Richard

Graeme
14th March 2014, 06:31 AM
Yes and as I understand it is proportional, so if you have it set to max 3.6v and are braking at about half pace you get 1.8v at the van or look at it another way - slam on the brakes hard (as if a kid has run out in front if the car) and all you'll get is 3.6 which is about what I get when I'm slowing for traffic lights ? Perhaps you have exceptionally efficient brakes on the van. Ps just thought you have it set on electric not electric over hydraulic ??
To be clear, proportional in this context is proportional deceleration (G-forces), not proportional to the preset limit. A high limit does not change the gentle braking voltage, only the maximum that the controller will provide because the limit is there to prevent wheel lockup which obviously varies between vans or for the same van on different surfaces. Higher or lower voltages for gentle braking is achieved using the boost option.

My van has electric brakes. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that the brakes on smaller vans are all electric rather than electric over hydraulic.

I suspect this topic needs its own thread if it is to continue.

wbowner
14th March 2014, 10:19 AM
Did another test using P3 diagnostic option

All looked ok except output current which was low

Richard

MY14D4
22nd March 2014, 11:11 AM
Has anybody found a roof console for Discovery 4's yet? Something that can connect the centre light and rear air conditioning controls? I'm thinking this could potentially be a good place to mount a UHF.

discotwinturbo
22nd March 2014, 05:13 PM
Has anybody found a roof console for Discovery 4's yet? Something that can connect the centre light and rear air conditioning controls? I'm thinking this could potentially be a good place to mount a UHF.

Have you purchased your UHF yet, if not, why not go down the path with a remote head unit.

I personally would not use a roof console if they made one...I am not sure if it would look right in a modern vehicle.

Brett.....

Disco Junkie
25th March 2014, 04:24 AM
Need some advice...
Should I consider a new MY 14 or a run-off MY 13 Disco? I would love the MY 14 but what is the price difference between the two? I am considering the SE trim.

Thanks!

Celtoid
25th March 2014, 01:42 PM
Need some advice...
Should I consider a new MY 14 or a run-off MY 13 Disco? I would love the MY 14 but what is the price difference between the two? I am considering the SE trim.

Thanks!

Hey mate,

You can pick up a MY13 Run-out, unregistered, no Ks, in SE Trim with some extras for under $85K.

How does that stack against the new MY14 prices? I think you have missed the Factory subsidised Main Event, so prices will be back to 'normal'.

When I looked, MY13 made perfect sense as MY14 prices were just too rich for me.

Cheers,

Kev.

lpj
25th March 2014, 02:21 PM
Hey mate, You can pick up a MY13 Run-out, unregistered, no Ks, in SE Trim with some extras for under $85K. How does that stack against the new MY14 prices? I think you have missed the Factory subsidised Main Event, so prices will be back to 'normal'. When I looked, MY13 made perfect sense as MY14 prices were just too rich for me. Cheers, Kev.

I agree. Get a brand new MY13 and save heaps. No matter what car you get, it won't be brand new for long and there will always be a better/newer one around the corner. You'll be stoked with the 13 anyway.
Unless your company is paying for it, in which case, go for everything you can!

nat_89
25th March 2014, 09:02 PM
Hey mate,

You can pick up a MY13 Run-out, unregistered, no Ks, in SE Trim with some extras for under $85K.

How does that stack against the new MY14 prices? I think you have missed the Factory subsidised Main Event, so prices will be back to 'normal'.

When I looked, MY13 made perfect sense as MY14 prices were just too rich for me.

Cheers,

Kev.

I'll agree there the new features of the my14 look great but everytime I get in my my13 I don't really care everytime I see it washed and cleaned love it plus I saved about $14k in prices so it made it worth while.

Disco Junkie
25th March 2014, 11:54 PM
Celtoid, lpj& nat89. Thanks!

d.diddy_13
26th March 2014, 07:19 AM
Need some advice...
Should I consider a new MY 14 or a run-off MY 13 Disco? I would love the MY 14 but what is the price difference between the two? I am considering the SE trim.

Thanks!

Just to give another perspective on this....

I went through the same problem early this year and ended up deciding on a My14 because the difference in price was <2K.

I could NOT find a MY13 run out SDV6 (with the dealer promotion) for less then 85K with 'a few options'.

To save 14K in price IMHO is comparing RRP V actual price they paid, not a true apples to apples comparison.

In the end if you find a 13 model in the colour and options you want buy it, if you can wait order one as the difference is price is small.

nat_89
26th March 2014, 07:57 AM
Just to give another perspective on this....

I went through the same problem early this year and ended up deciding on a My14 because the difference in price was <2K.

I could NOT find a MY13 run out SDV6 (with the dealer promotion) for less then 85K with 'a few options'.

To save 14K in price IMHO is comparing RRP V actual price they paid, not a true apples to apples comparison.

In the end if you find a 13 model in the colour and options you want buy it, if you can wait order one as the difference is price is small.

Thats right I saved over $14k from retail price to what paid but I haven't seen many brand new HSE's with rear diff and electric steering columns for what I paid so I'm pretty happy, I mean $88 for a brand new HSE with active diff and steering column for under $90 I thought was a good deal.

Celtoid
26th March 2014, 05:19 PM
Just to give another perspective on this....

I went through the same problem early this year and ended up deciding on a My14 because the difference in price was <2K.

I could NOT find a MY13 run out SDV6 (with the dealer promotion) for less then 85K with 'a few options'.

To save 14K in price IMHO is comparing RRP V actual price they paid, not a true apples to apples comparison.

In the end if you find a 13 model in the colour and options you want buy it, if you can wait order one as the difference is price is small.

Shopping for a Run-Out or Ex-Demo is all in the timing I guess. There were easily a half dozen SDV6s around (in QLD) in the $85K range when I was looking (Mid February). And I was actually worried that I'd left it too late.

You hit the nail on the head though, finding a combination that you like is the trick, due to your personal preference/requirements. I had several Showrooms saying they wouldn't go as low as $85K.....but they all rang me back....LOL!!! Once that hook was in I went for floor mats, tinting, transport, etc.....they won't let a sale go due to 'trinkets' like that.

I'm assuming LR are like any other brand and actually have some sort of leasing arrangement on the cars they have on the floor ... IOW the cars are costing the owner of the franchise money and as MY13 have no future sales advertising value, they want to move them ASAP.

I'm confused by your apples - apples comparison statement though.

The con of the scenario is the fact that my MY13 is technically a year old already (not warranty wise though, as that starts with first registration) but I doubt that in four years plus time when I sell it (especially as it was built in SEP13) that there will be over $10K difference in the asking price between a MY13 and MY14.

What is the asking price for a book-order MY14 SE?

Either way .... we've all paid too much ... LOL!!!

Kev.

d.diddy_13
26th March 2014, 06:13 PM
I'll agree there the new features of the my14 look great but everytime I get in my my13 I don't really care everytime I see it washed and cleaned love it plus I saved about $14k in prices so it made it worth while.

The way this reads (to me) is that by going a MY13 he saved 14K Versus going a MY14.

When in reality the saving is off RRP pricing and nothing to do with MY14 pricing.

tiddy
26th March 2014, 08:01 PM
The way this reads (to me) is that by going a MY13 he saved 14K Versus going a MY14.

When in reality the saving is off RRP pricing and nothing to do with MY14 pricing.


My wife & I have just gone through this process, we could've had a MY13 with options we wanted...active diff, Hi line audio, privacy glass & Xenon lights, but it was not a first choice of colour.

We decided that given how much we were spending, we might as well get the exterior & trim colour we wanted, so we settled on a MY14 for prob $3k more & given that the MY13 car had been at the dealers since Aug/Sept, we think it was a more than reasonable trade off.

But everyone will have different views & what suits them, this is what suited us & we are very happy with what we will get......once it finally gets here.

tiddy

Celtoid
26th March 2014, 08:33 PM
My wife & I have just gone through this process, we could've had a MY13 with options we wanted...active diff, Hi line audio, privacy glass & Xenon lights, but it was not a first choice of colour.

We decided that given how much we were spending, we might as well get the exterior & trim colour we wanted, so we settled on a MY14 for prob $3k more & given that the MY13 car had been at the dealers since Aug/Sept, we think it was a more than reasonable trade off.

But everyone will have different views & what suits them, this is what suited us & we are very happy with what we will get......once it finally gets here.

tiddy

So you got all of this for $87K?

nat_89
27th March 2014, 08:40 AM
The way this reads (to me) is that by going a MY13 he saved 14K Versus going a MY14.

When in reality the saving is off RRP pricing and nothing to do with MY14 pricing.

Well the way I looked at it the dealers said they had to clear MY13 stock and there is no way they could offer a massive discount on the MY14 as they didn't really need to. The price I got 2 dealers said no way they could even do that on their demo ones so I said righto I'll take it.

Disco Junkie
27th March 2014, 07:36 PM
Thats right I saved over $14k from retail price to what paid but I haven't seen many brand new HSE's with rear diff and electric steering columns for what I paid so I'm pretty happy, I mean $88 for a brand new HSE with active diff and steering column for under $90 I thought was a good deal.

I am interested in a HSE for under $90. What do you mean Rear Diff? I thought all SE and HSE comes with Rear Diff as a standard? How will I know if it is not on the list.

Does anyone know a good sales guy to recommend in Victoria?

Cheers!

Disco Junkie
27th March 2014, 07:39 PM
My wife & I have just gone through this process, we could've had a MY13 with options we wanted...active diff, Hi line audio, privacy glass & Xenon lights, but it was not a first choice of colour.

We decided that given how much we were spending, we might as well get the exterior & trim colour we wanted, so we settled on a MY14 for prob $3k more & given that the MY13 car had been at the dealers since Aug/Sept, we think it was a more than reasonable trade off.

But everyone will have different views & what suits them, this is what suited us & we are very happy with what we will get......once it finally gets here.

tiddy

I am very happy for you. I hope I can get a good deal too :)

nat_89
27th March 2014, 09:29 PM
I am interested in a HSE for under $90. What do you mean Rear Diff? I thought all SE and HSE comes with Rear Diff as a standard? How will I know if it is not on the list.

Does anyone know a good sales guy to recommend in Victoria?

Cheers!

Ahm no unfortunately the HSE and SE models don't come with any active rear diff it's about $1100 option the same as the electric steering column it's an option to. I would recommend Garreth Hartwig at Lennock in Canberra he is awesome does great prices to!!

Celtoid
27th March 2014, 11:07 PM
The way this reads (to me) is that by going a MY13 he saved 14K Versus going a MY14.

When in reality the saving is off RRP pricing and nothing to do with MY14 pricing.

I'm sorry mate, I still don't get it.

You're saying a MY14 D4, ordered off the books, was only a couple of K dearer than a MY13 run out model? The main event was still happening when I looked into this and there was a significant difference in price between a MY13 run out and a MY14 in SE trim.

I'm sure if an individual ordered a D4 in 2013, off the books, it would have cost them quite a bit more than buying a run out or Ex-Demo at the end of the year or in early 2014. There are just two sets of numbers, what had to be paid when the car was ordered and what was paid to take one off the showroom floor some months later. Same applies for MY14. It's black and white really for some folks ... the price of a book ordered MY14 Vs a run out MY13 and later this year, MY14 run out. Open the wallet, how much money comes out ..... nothing to do with what LR paid ... well actually leased it for ...or any other factor.

Obviously the other variables are personal choice ... you don't want to wait, you don't want to risk not getting your exact build or maybe you just don't care and are happy to spend the extra bucks, right here, right now.

It's like anything .... right place, right time. Dealer compensations, run-outs, end of financial year, overstock ..... if you happen to benefit from that situation, well that's good, right?

A few years down the track, you won't care .... you'll still be loving the D4 :-)

Trust me.

Kev.

Celtoid
27th March 2014, 11:16 PM
Thats right I saved over $14k from retail price to what paid but I haven't seen many brand new HSE's with rear diff and electric steering columns for what I paid so I'm pretty happy, I mean $88 for a brand new HSE with active diff and steering column for under $90 I thought was a good deal.

I hate you nat_89 .... an HSE for $88K ...... LOL!!!

Wish I'd scored that deal. Well done mate!

My point in case ... right time, right place .....

nat_89
28th March 2014, 04:59 AM
I hate you nat_89 .... an HSE for $88K ...... LOL!!!

Wish I'd scored that deal. Well done mate!

My point in case ... right time, right place .....

Hahaha all good mate I understand it was a deal I just couldn't pass up I know a sales manager and he basically said this is best price I can do which for that I imagined nearly cost and it was not hard to push to my partner then because your already a fair way up on resale might loose a few grand but not as much so that's kinda why I didn't wait haha

d.diddy_13
28th March 2014, 07:11 AM
I'm sorry mate, I still don't get it.

You're saying a MY14 D4, ordered off the books, was only a couple of K dearer than a MY13 run out model? The main event was still happening when I looked into this and there was a significant difference in price between a MY13 run out and a MY14 in SE trim.

Kev.

Yes... guessing they wanted to push the MY13 models

When looking late Jan in Melbourne Could not get an SE 13MY Run Out with Hi-Ace & Reversing Camera for under 85K (Not white)

phl
29th March 2014, 08:43 AM
You're saying a MY14 D4, ordered off the books, was only a couple of K dearer than a MY13 run out model? The main event was still happening when I looked into this and there was a significant difference in price between a MY13 run out and a MY14 in SE trim.

Kev,

I suspect this depends on the dealer, and if they have excess stock. When I did this exercise over a year ago (Oct 12), the price difference between a demo MY12 (6 speed) and a new MY13 (8 speed) was $6K, so wasn't worth it. As it is, with some negotiations, and corporate plan, it ended up $16K under RRP for that specification. Downside was the near 4 mths wait as I wanted a 2013 build date.