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POD
22nd February 2014, 05:58 PM
This little bloke showed up this afternoon, he seems to have attached himself to a family of King Parrots who are regular visitors, he doesn't match anything in our bird book and one of those internet bird identifiers came up blank. Anyone know what he is?

scanfor
22nd February 2014, 06:01 PM
Juvenile King Parrot?

SBD4
22nd February 2014, 06:08 PM
How about a Princess Parrot?

Princess Parrot (http://webparrots.com/princess_parrot.html)

korg20000bc
22nd February 2014, 06:11 PM
How about a Princess Parrot?

Princess Parrot (http://webparrots.com/princess_parrot.html)

Agreed.

dullbird
22nd February 2014, 06:43 PM
looks like a princess parrot to me

KarlB
22nd February 2014, 06:47 PM
Definitely a Princess Parrot. It would be an aviary escapee as it is way out of its natural range in Victoria.

d@rk51d3
22nd February 2014, 07:24 PM
+10 Princess Parrot.

Roverlord off road spares
22nd February 2014, 07:30 PM
THE First Bird in picture is not , the second bird is a princess parrot .Princess parrot are not red all over the breast, have a look at this aus king parrot pic, identical to one in the tree, red head, breast red, wings green and the lighter green slash on the length of wing ,same as pic of king parrot. the others pics show 2 species
Australian King Parrot (http://webparrots.com/australian_king_parrot.html)

SBD4
22nd February 2014, 07:38 PM
The OP already knows that the first bird is a King Parrot:


...he seems to have attached himself to a family of King Parrots who are regular visitors...

The question is regarding the second bird in that pic & the only bird in all the other pics.

worane
22nd February 2014, 08:18 PM
Not sure what it is but I did once see a magnificent double brested mattress thrasher on the beach on the Gold Coast.

POD
22nd February 2014, 08:21 PM
Woohoo, definitely a Princess Parrot, the picture in our bird book is poor quality and the colours don't match, but when I google Princess parrot it brings up photos that match this bird exactly. Is there anything this forum can't do?

The 'Birds of Australia' book that we have shows their range to be in the centre of the continent, long way from here. I wonder if this is an escaped pet. It's been moving from tree to tree with the Kings, all quite happily feeding together.

Collins
22nd February 2014, 09:49 PM
Woohoo, definitely a Princess Parrot, the picture in our bird book is poor quality and the colours don't match, but when I google Princess parrot it brings up photos that match this bird exactly. Is there anything this forum can't do?

The 'Birds of Australia' book that we have shows their range to be in the centre of the continent, long way from here. I wonder if this is an escaped pet. It's been moving from tree to tree with the Kings, all quite happily feeding together.

Yes, I agree with it being a young male Princess Parrot (Parakeet),(Polytelis alexandrae — Princess Parrot, Alexandra's Parrot) most probably an escapee from Healsville Sanctuary.
How lucky for you to see this bird, they are rare, and as you have mentioned their range is confined to central Australia. The species is considered as vulnerable

Roverlord off road spares
22nd February 2014, 10:01 PM
The OP already knows that the first bird is a King Parrot:



The question is regarding the second bird in that pic & the only bird in all the other pics.
I must be going blind I couldn't see the forest for the trees:o
Just re read it . Sorry:(

scarry
22nd February 2014, 10:30 PM
Princess parrot is a desert parrot,as others have said,way out of it's natural area.
I bred them for years in aviaries.They are beautiful parrots,but need to be wormed regularly.
Easy to breed once you give them the correct seed,vegetables,native flowers,etc.
The colour of both sexes is very similar,the male slightly larger and has longer tail feathers.
The female and juvenile male similar colours.

There are also heaps of mutations around as well,all different colours.

POD
22nd February 2014, 11:32 PM
A measurement on google earth tells me we are 67km in a straight line from Healesville Sanctuary, would that be a reasonable distance for an aviary escapee to travel, given that it is almost entirely across dense forest? Perhaps it's escaped from a private aviary closer by. Although my front lawn looks a bit like the central deserts at the moment. Very pretty little bird, funny how the King parrots seem quite happy to let him (actually from my web searching, think it's a her) hang around with them.
We're very blessed with our bird life here at the moment, we've had a family of bellbirds take up residence in the trees near my shed about 10 days ago, we think they were probably displaced by a bushfire nearby that made our lives interesting for a couple of days. Also had a family of gang-gang cockatoos here for a couple of days this week, we only see these every few years.

scarry
23rd February 2014, 08:42 AM
The parrot could have escaped from anywhere.They have no homeing instinct once they leave the cage.
What they seem to do is hang around any type of wild parrot as you have noticed,particularly if there are none of their own type around.They do this for safety as well,as they will often be attacked by magpies,butcher birds,crows,etc,if alone.

They also sometimes settle around another aviary.When they do this they are often easy to catch as they are normally hungry.
Just put a saucer of seed down and gradually move it towards a small cage such as a budgie cage.Then put the seed in the cage and run a bit of fishing line to the door,so you can shut it from a distance.

I haven't had native parrots for a few years now,but you have to be careful as some are on the 'list',so you need a permit for them even if the are escapees.
The princess was on the 'list',but i believe it was taken off?

King parrots were also on the list.

Some parrots may also be banded,which relates to the aviary they have come from.

ramblingboy42
23rd February 2014, 10:01 AM
Hmmm, I'm not sure why anyone wants to make birds captive.

I have a water bowl and and a feeder and perch attached to a tree about 10 mtrs from our pergola.

We have a daily charade/parade of crested pigeons, bar shouldered doves, wood ducks and whistlers, rainbow lorikeets, scaley breasted lorikeets, galahs, corellas, paleheaded rosellas and western rosellas and 18 rowdy, gre.gerious mischief making sulphur crested cockatoos.

Most visit twice a day and and the water and seed has to be refiilled twice a day as well.

They consume up to 15 kg of wild bird seed each week and give us hours of pleasure as we watch them from the pergola with a wine and cheese.

Much , much better than captive.

scarry
23rd February 2014, 10:42 AM
Hmmm, I'm not sure why anyone wants to make birds captive..

Much , much better than captive.

Exactly,but a bird bred in an aviary does not have a a great chance of surviving in the wild,particularly if it is not in it's natural area.
It has a much better chance of survival back in an aviary.

Budgies are a good example of this,hundreds get out each year,none survive.

Sure some introduced birds survive and become pests,but here we are talking an aviary escapee,not in its normal area.

I also much prefer birds in the wild.

Saitch
23rd February 2014, 06:59 PM
Hmmm, I'm not sure why anyone wants to make birds captive.

I have a water bowl and and a feeder and perch attached to a tree about 10 mtrs from our pergola.

We have a daily charade/parade of crested pigeons, bar shouldered doves, wood ducks and whistlers, rainbow lorikeets, scaley breasted lorikeets, galahs, corellas, paleheaded rosellas and western rosellas and 18 rowdy, gre.gerious mischief making sulphur crested cockatoos.

Most visit twice a day and and the water and seed has to be refiilled twice a day as well.

They consume up to 15 kg of wild bird seed each week and give us hours of pleasure as we watch them from the pergola with a wine and cheese.

Much , much better than captive.
This is terrible!
It's common knowledge that feeding native animals of any kind is BAAAAD!
Shame on you!
Are Kookies, Currawongs, Pied & Grey Butchies & Maggies classed as "Native"?
Not around here they're not although we do limit their tucker to morning only & it's minimal although I'm not sure how they'd go with wine & cheese as the diet is different to parrots :D:D

Ausfree
23rd February 2014, 07:39 PM
This is terrible!
It's common knowledge that feeding native animals of any kind is BAAAAD!
Shame on you!
Are Kookies, Currawongs, Pied & Grey Butchies & Maggies classed as "Native"?
Not around here they're not although we do limit their tucker to morning only & it's minimal although I'm not sure how they'd go with wine & cheese as the diet is different to parrots :D:D

Not at all,feeding birds in the wild is MUCH better than having them in a cage. They come in have a feed and fly off as nature intended, and we get pleasure out of their presence. Birds cooped up in a cage are a No No. They are meant to be free and flying.:D

Aussie
23rd February 2014, 09:31 PM
Not sure what it is but I did once see a magnificent double brested mattress thrasher on the beach on the Gold Coast.

Thats a distant relative of the barrel chested bed thumper quite common here in summer time. When i was younger I caught quite a few set them free after a few days ofcourse as they make such a racket

POD
23rd February 2014, 10:43 PM
No sign of the Princess today, although we were out for much of the morning and again for much of the afternoon. Didn't see the Kings either, they are sporadic visitors, will be keeping a sharp lookout for the Princess parrot especially when the kings are around.
We get a great deal of pleasure from our parade of native parrots, they don't seem to mind at all that we feed them a couple of times a day. Gets a bit noisy around galah kindergarten season, but watching the young ones learning to land is very entertaining.