Bullbar for D3

[ytt105]

Where's the best, (ie. cheapest) place to buy a winch bar for a 2005 D3 S.

I'm after the bar and fitting kit only, I'll fit it myself.

I know its ARB or OL only and am tending towards OL as I understand I will be able to remove headlights without removing the bar with the OL but not the ARB.

Also, is it possible to carry this new purchase in the back of the D3 with the seats down or do I need to use a trailer.

PS. I live in Canberra but travel to Sydney regularly.

[Redback]

Where's the best, (ie. cheapest) place to buy a winch bar for a 2005 D3 S.

I'm after the bar and fitting kit only, I'll fit it myself.

I know its ARB or OL only and am tending towards OL as I understand I will be able to remove headlights without removing the bar with the OL but not the ARB. Not quite true, the OL Bar allows you to get them out enough to change the globes.

Also, is it possible to carry this new purchase in the back of the D3 with the seats down or do I need to use a trailer. Yes it is possible.

PS. I live in Canberra but travel to Sydney regularly.

TJM and Roo Systems are another alternative.


Baz

[ADMIRAL]

Dare I say it, ECB make a winch bar for the D3/4. It has only one advantage (IMO ), you don't have to cut the mudguard flares. Oop's sorry two. It is made of aluminium. Disadvantage. In the eye's of the beholder I guess, looks plain compared to the opposition. Look up the ECB website for agents and more detail, pics etc.

The O.L. has more aerial/antenna mounts on the upper hoop than the ARB.

[ytt105]

ECB's isn't winch compatible, so they say.

TJM don't make one, and Roo Systems don't list one on their web site, though I'll give them a ring tomorrow.

[sheerluck]

ECB's isn't winch compatible, so they say. ......

So who says?

[ytt105]

ECB, when I rang them a couple of weeks ago.

[sheerluck]

ECB, when I rang them a couple of weeks ago.

Interesting. I'm fitting a D4 ECB bar to the front of my D3. It says it's a winchbar.

[gghaggis]

Cue photo of ECB bar with winch ;)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/100.jpg

[sheerluck]

Cue photo of ECB bar with winch ;)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/100.jpg

Photoshopped. :p

[ytt105]

Sheerluck

How much, where from. I like the ECB bar.

Regards

[Redback]

From the ECB Web page available in silver hammertone, black ripple polished chrome and blue ripple:cool:

Full story here
http://www.ecb.com.au/vehicle.php?Make=19&Model=80&variant=920&SEARCH2.x=53&SEARCH2.y=10

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The Land Rover Discovery 4 is a hardcore 4-wheel-drive built for those who live and breathe the offroad experience. Protection equipment is a must for a such hazardous lifestyle, ensure your Discovery 4 is protected by the best; install an ECB Big Tube™ Winch Bar, for both superior protection and recovery. Designed and manufactured specifically for the Land Rover Discovery 4 the Big Tube Winch Bar is constructed from high tensile, structural grade alloys and features 63mm, welded and gusseted shoulder pipes and a one-piece channel with lower protection skirt. The Big Tube™ Winch Bar provides incredible frontal protection without the excessive weight of steel-based products. The Discovery 4 Big Tube Winch Bar has been designed to fit up to a Warn 9700 winch; for customers not intending to install a winch a free ECB powdercoated winch coverplate is also supplied. The Big Tube™ Winch Bar offers full compatibility for factory park sensors, headlight washers and driving cameras; For vehicles without these as factory standard, plugs are provided to cover the small holes designed for sensor placement. Other standard features of the Discovery 4 Big Tube Winch Bar include spotlight mounting provisions and ECB Driving Lights. All ECB products are ADR compliant and air bag compatible and are covered by the ECB lifetime warranty, for total peace of mind.

[ytt105]

Redback

Thanks for that, but according to their web site the bar for a D3 is NOT winch compatible.

Any reason why a D4 bar wouldn't fit on a D3?

Regards

[Tombie]

Redback

Thanks for that, but according to their web site the bar for a D3 is NOT winch compatible.

Any reason why a D4 bar wouldn't fit on a D3?

Regards

Different shape for grill and lights as a starter..

I havent seen an alloy bar on a Disco 3/4 that has hit a decent animal, but if you want it for protection and winching ARB or OL are the best choices..

[crawal]

I called into ARB today , they advised against fitting their bar your self " Modern cars have so many bits that need coaxing to make it fit , usually takes 5-6 hours " has any one fitted a ARB bar ?

[sheerluck]

Redback

Thanks for that, but according to their web site the bar for a D3 is NOT winch compatible.

Any reason why a D4 bar wouldn't fit on a D3?

Regards


Different shape for grill and lights as a starter..

I havent seen an alloy bar on a Disco 3/4 that has hit a decent animal, but if you want it for protection and winching ARB or OL are the best choices..

The grille is a different shape, the lights are 25mm shorter in height, the guards finish 15mm further back.

However overall the the line of the bottom of the grille is the same as on the D3 (all bar a few mm) and on the ripple black ECB bar I have (the other styles may be different), the difference in height between the headlamp and the grille is blanked off with a metal panel that bolts on:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=73427&stc=1&d=1393403190

Other than that, I've had it bolted on and it seems to line up OK.

As for the difference in strength between alloy and steel bars, the skippys around this neck of the woods are not monsters, and my view is that the alloy bar, especially given all the mounts are 10mm+ steel, should hold the locals off the important bits more than adequately.

[Tombie]

I called into ARB today , they advised against fitting their bar your self " Modern cars have so many bits that need coaxing to make it fit , usually takes 5-6 hours " has any one fitted a ARB bar ?


Took my 4 casual hours, solo.
If you have a helper (occasionally) and are mildly technical/logical and can handle a few tools you'll be fine.

[crawal]

This appeared on carsales today .ideal for inner Sydney traffic................

2008 Land Rover Discovery 3 Series 3 SE 08MY Sports Automatic (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-2008/SSE-AD-2658194/?Cr=12&sdmvc=1)

[Piddler]

This appeared on carsales today .ideal for inner Sydney traffic................

2008 Land Rover Discovery 3 Series 3 SE 08MY Sports Automatic (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-2008/SSE-AD-2658194/?Cr=12&sdmvc=1)

That is hideous, good buy bar would have to go. Ridiculous. God damn that's ugly :D

[101RRS]

It is little wonder authorities are on the bull bar case with bars like that - definitely not compliant.

[ytt105]

And I thought only ARB and OL made them for D3!

(I still think that!)

[discotwinturbo]

Certainly hideous.

Does it have a five poster....I thought that they were illegal.
Neighbour got a yellow sticker for his.

Brett....

[ADMIRAL]

I would be embarrassed to even claim ownership. Bloody awful. Belongs on the front of a locomotive not a vehicle!!

[SBD4]

Well, I guess there is one positive, with the clearance on a bar like that you know it's never been off road. Looks to be in good nick. Spend 3K on a new bar and you might have a reasonable vehicle.

Where's the bucket...
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/22.jpg

[Redback]

And I thought only ARB and OL made them for D3!

(I still think that!)

You can get the non winch bar and then buy a winch cradle to fit the winch seperately from the bar.

Baz.

[ytt105]

Tell me more Redback.

How is the winch cradle fitted to the bar? Is it bolted/welded to the bar or is it installed between the chassis rails?

I presume it would all still be air-bag compatible.

I've just had an interesting conversation with the OP distributor in Canberra.
He is interested in developing a fitting system to use the ECB alloy winch bar of the D4 onto my D3.

Too expensive for me but he sounds like a guy willing to go the extra mile to help out.

Regards

[Redback]

Tell me more Redback.

How is the winch cradle fitted to the bar? Is it bolted/welded to the bar or is it installed between the chassis rails?

I presume it would all still be air-bag compatible.

I've just had an interesting conversation with the OP distributor in Canberra.
He is interested in developing a fitting system to use the ECB alloy winch bar of the D4 onto my D3.

Too expensive for me but he sounds like a guy willing to go the extra mile to help out.

Regards

A winch cradle is fitted to the chassis not the bar and sits behind the bar, the fairlead is then fitted to the bar.

If the D4 ECB bar is like the OL & ARB bar, it will be a D3 bar and what they do is fit a plastic or rubber spacer under the head light to fill the gap, my OL bar is like that and if you look closely at that ECB bar on the D4 you will see that fill in under the head light;)

In theory the D4 bar should fit the D3, unless they have changed something else, also they are much more exspensive than the OL and ARB bars.

Baz.

[Owen]

Here you go...
Four Wheel Drives (http://hopperknockerbullbars.com.au/four-wheel-drives.html)
I know a few guys in outback NSW who swear by these, and no, they are not for off road clearance, they are for scrub and roo protection

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[Redback]

Here you go...
Four Wheel Drives (http://hopperknockerbullbars.com.au/four-wheel-drives.html)
I know a few guys in outback NSW who swear by these, and no, they are not for off road clearance, they are for scrub and roo protection

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Not in this case it isn't, might as well grow a mullet, start drinking V8 and buy a Toyota:spudnikguitar::spudnikhurler:

Baz.

[sheerluck]

Here you go...
Four Wheel Drives (http://hopperknockerbullbars.com.au/four-wheel-drives.html)
I know a few guys in outback NSW who swear by these, and no, they are not for off road clearance, they are for scrub and roo protection

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Ah yes, because everyone should drive a vehicle that looks like a cross between a bedstead and a cheesegrater.

[Redback]

BTW Dave, hows your D3 going??

Baz.

[sheerluck]

BTW Dave, hows your D3 going??

Baz.

Getting there. The target is that it must be up and running by the end of this month.

Must post some updates this weekend. :D