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Roverlord off road spares
25th February 2014, 02:14 PM
Aparently now Qantas is shedding jobs as it's selling off it's terminals.

And good old Geelong is going to have call centres moved there. Do that mean the call centres in Geelong will make Mumbai call centre operators unemployed, Gee I hope so!!!:twisted:
I would even rather hear "G'day Sport!, how are they hanging, what can we do for ya" at least you can understand an Aussies. Not like this imitation English the Indians dish up.
Overseas call centres are my number 1 hate:twisted::twisted::twisted:

Mr.Bear
25th February 2014, 02:45 PM
. Not like this imitation English the Indians dish up.
Overseas call centres are my number 1 hate:twisted::twisted::twisted:



X2.

ramblingboy42
25th February 2014, 02:46 PM
well, I can see the writing on the wall and have just about cashed in all our frequent flyer points onto airfares, which will be used up by november hoping that qantas dont make their big announcement by then.

Reads90
25th February 2014, 08:29 PM
well, I can see the writing on the wall and have just about cashed in all our frequent flyer points onto airfares, which will be used up by november hoping that qantas dont make their big announcement by then.

And Emirates airline to the rescue and save Qantas for going under and then will own them.


It is not if but when this happens.

BMKal
26th February 2014, 08:41 AM
well, I can see the writing on the wall and have just about cashed in all our frequent flyer points onto airfares, which will be used up by november hoping that qantas dont make their big announcement by then.

Cashed all of mine in a few weeks ago for the same reason .................. but now I've got more of them. :D

Starting to run out of decent options in the Qantas shop. :p

richard4u2
26th February 2014, 09:53 AM
call centres of the future you will be talking to a computer there will be no humans

Bigbjorn
26th February 2014, 11:20 AM
And Emirates airline to the rescue and save Qantas for going under and then will own them.


It is not if but when this happens.

How many of us on this forum have worked in corporations where a whizz kid or boy wonder was brought in as CEO to "turn the company around" or "revive the company's fortunes"? Usually in time the real reason appears. The wunderkind was brought in to either reduce the value for a fire sale or to close the place down and sell off any assets remaining. Which one applies to the Irish git? Perhaps he should be got rid of whilst there is still a Qantas.

Mick_Marsh
26th February 2014, 12:05 PM
Rex are in trouble now.
They're not getting bums on seats.

Geedublya
26th February 2014, 01:36 PM
Cashed all of mine in a few weeks ago for the same reason .................. but now I've got more of them. :D

Starting to run out of decent options in the Qantas shop. :p

Gift cards are good.... I just cashed all my points in on them.

Roverlord off road spares
26th February 2014, 01:50 PM
call centres of the future you will be talking to a computer there will be no humans

Happening at supermarket check outs already, machines, I hate self check out and so do many others hence the longer queue at the one and only cashier operated check out. So your forced to use the self check out, but there is always some nosey floor walker sticking their biddy in whilst your in the middle of the process.
So why not just put her back as a cashier and every one would be happy.
I believe theft is costing them lost of $ with the self check out, one for the scan and one in the pocket.

frantic
26th February 2014, 07:22 PM
Happening at supermarket check outs already, machines, I hate self check out and so do many others hence the longer queue at the one and only cashier operated check out. So your forced to use the self check out, but there is always some nosey floor walker sticking their biddy in whilst your in the middle of the process.
So why not just put her back as a cashier and every one would be happy.
I believe theft is costing them lost of $ with the self check out, one for the scan and one in the pocket.
One of the more devious ones occur at self checkouts like bag W and K-fart where they tag swap a cheap item say a fishing rod and/ or wii game with the top of the line, pay for it, then go to next burbs mall and return it for a store credit thereby doubling or tripling or more their buying dollars. :eek:
This is a lot harder to prove unless they are caught swapping the tags as they have still paid for the item, and all they do is claim the store workers tagged it wrong. There was a perfect example today at toys-r -stuff where a kit was tagged $40.99 a $10 reduction as one part missing, but all the unopened ones where $39.99 after a price reduction.

Piddler
27th February 2014, 07:20 AM
Rex are in trouble now.
They're not getting bums on seats.

They deserve it. There planes fly half empty as there fairs are ridiculous only business travellers.

Over here we drive 2 hours when we have a REX plane 5 minutes away and save a fortune!!!!!.

CHeers

Mick_Marsh
27th February 2014, 09:58 AM
They deserve it. There planes fly half empty as there fairs are ridiculous only business travellers.
One could say the same for Qantas Domestic.

incisor
27th February 2014, 10:09 AM
another 5000 jobs gone...


Alan Joyce is the real-life King Joffrey. #qantas #gameofthrones #redwedding

FeatherWeightDriver
27th February 2014, 10:22 AM
Gift cards are good.... I just cashed all my points in on them.

That's exactly what I was looking at last night too... :cool:

mns488
27th February 2014, 01:26 PM
Meanwhile Air NZ made a record profit.

Joyce should make it 5001 himself included. He has failed, although I think Geoff dixon made a mistake not choosing the more fuel effiecient 777s like Air NZ did.

And get rid of Jetstar.

Chucaro
27th February 2014, 06:00 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/38.jpg

Ferret
27th February 2014, 07:32 PM
No more Qantas international flights out of Perth from May. :(

Hope there still landing here because I got a Qantas flight booked from Paris to Perth in June. :eek:

Reads90
27th February 2014, 08:45 PM
No more Qantas international flights out of Perth from May. :(

Hope there still landing here because I got a Qantas flight booked from Paris to Perth in June. :eek:

Not any more you haven't

We have had problems all week because we are taking 60 of my customers to Africa for a safari in August.
On Monday Qantas on a co share with South African airlines said we could not longer fly on the original flight. Had no reason but the original flights were Brisbane Perth , Perth South Africa
Now all makes sense why they were cancelled, and we have been try to sort out other times and flight all week.

Ferret
28th February 2014, 01:37 AM
Just checked - the Qantas booking page still shows the flight with Qantas flight numbers but my actual booking details show Emirates flight numbers.

I think I'm safe.

BMKal
28th February 2014, 09:16 AM
Qantas has been moving towards replacing international flights in/out of Perth with Emirates flights for a while now.

When I flew back from Germany a little while back, I was on the last ever Qantas flight from Frankfurt to Perth via Singapore. Was replaced with Qantas Perth to Dubai and connection to Emirates flight from Dubai to Frankfurt the following week.

We were told at the time that the entire journey would eventually be with Emirates. ;)

Haven't flown with Emirates yet, but am told that they are better than Qantas in any case. Recent flight to China with Malaysian airlines made Qantas look like a second rate competitor in the market. ;)

numpty
28th February 2014, 09:48 AM
One could say the same for Qantas Domestic.

Qantas domestic Syd/Bris/Mel etc are reasonable. Regional domestic on the other hand is a totally different story.

VladTepes
28th February 2014, 03:17 PM
I dunno. For many regional communities there IS no alternative to Qantas. Nobody wants to run services at a loss but while Qantas is govt owned (in part) they can have influence in that area. If Qantas were to be privatised remote Australians would need to charter... or drive.

The problem for Qantas is that it cannot be bought out by a foreign airline due to certain legislation 'protecting' them from that. :lol2:

That Irish git has been running Qantas into the ground to support his pet project - Jetstar. And himself, of course.

sashadidi
28th February 2014, 04:24 PM
Emirates might not even want Qantas with its high cost (relative) operation, its doing relatively alright as such without taking Qantas or anyone else

VladTepes
28th February 2014, 04:30 PM
As a brand, though, Qantas is attractive.

Reads90
28th February 2014, 04:36 PM
The problem for Qantas is that it cannot be bought out by a foreign airline due to certain legislation 'protecting' them from that. :lol2:


Yeah at the moment but for how long

Ralph1Malph
1st March 2014, 09:53 AM
Ok,
All you business types out there, could you tell us exactly how Qantas can return to profitability?

Yes I know the basics, reduce expenditure, increase sales, but exactly how?

Which bit of reduce expenditure is acceptable to us? I know, cut Joyces pay, well that will get us through to lunch on Monday. I am after serious, actual examples how?

I don't want this to move to La Cantina, but I think engaging the unions is terrific, they must have some ideas how to return it profitability? Perhaps ask the public for expertise?

Ralph

tonyci
1st March 2014, 10:07 AM
Ralph
One of the ways to improve profitability, is by replacing fuel inefficient aircraft with the newer more fuel efficient models.Fuel is a major cost.
Then the problem is how do they do this , purchase, lease ?.To do either they need new debt or capital (Equity). This is the problem Joyce refers to , lack of access to international capital.
There are numerous problem's I suspect unprofitable routes for one.
No airline seems to be doing well at the moment, bit of a mess.
My thoughts anyway.
Cheers
Tony

Chucaro
1st March 2014, 10:34 AM
As a brand, though, Qantas is attractive.

Was, it will take few years to repair the reputation that have now :(

olbod
1st March 2014, 12:56 PM
Ok,
All you business types out there, could you tell us exactly how Qantas can return to profitability?

Yes I know the basics, reduce expenditure, increase sales, but exactly how?

Which bit of reduce expenditure is acceptable to us? I know, cut Joyces pay, well that will get us through to lunch on Monday. I am after serious, actual examples how?

I don't want this to move to La Cantina, but I think engaging the unions is terrific, they must have some ideas how to return it profitability? Perhaps ask the public for expertise?

Ralph

Put joyce back under his rock and then appoint three Chinese business men
as joint CEO's.

vnx205
1st March 2014, 01:23 PM
Ok,
All you business types out there, could you tell us exactly how Qantas can return to profitability?


Judging by the problems some other airlines around the world are having, I'd say the answer to your question is that the best way the return to profitability is to get out of the airline business. :p

sheerluck
1st March 2014, 01:27 PM
Judging by the problems some other airlines around the world are having, I'd say the answer to your question is that the best way the return to profitability is to get out of the airline business. :p

Just like the old adage of "how do you make a fortune in the airline industry? Start off with a really big fortune"

bob10
1st March 2014, 06:46 PM
There are questions to be answered. From the Courier Mail Saturday March 1 2014 INSIGHT.


" The desperate plight of QANTAS - complete with a credit rating downgraded to near junk status- seems a long way off from the days when it was routinely lauded as one of the World's most profitable carriers.Indeed, in 2007 and 2008 it reported pre tax profits of more than $1 billion each year. One airline industry insider says he thinks Qantas has made some startling strategic blunders since then, such as abandoning its Singapore hub in favour of Dubai and a tie up with Emirates. This has left Qantas without a foothold in Asia , although the region is serviced by its budget offshoot, Jetstar. What amazes me is how you go from being so profitable to just disappearing . It seems to have fallen in a heap pretty quickly. Somewhere they have taken their eye off the ball . Strategically, they have not answered the questions. The buck has to stop somewhere. "


Makes you wonder if Qantas was set up to fail, from the day Joyce joined. Bob

chuck
1st March 2014, 08:56 PM
Joyce locking his employees out certainly has not improved the situation.

Notably the successful airlines have significant government backing i.e. Emirates, Singapore.

The Singapore Government does the opposite to the Australian Government it actually invests money in profitable companies.

My employers company is half owned by a Singapore based company which in turn is half owned by the Singapore Government.

They are also buying logistics facilities at a rapid rate because all of the imports have to be stored & moved.

V8Ian
1st March 2014, 09:40 PM
QANTAS better revise the number to 4998 and retain a couple of panel beaters. :D

bob10
5th March 2014, 09:07 AM
We all know Alan Joyce was with Ansett when it went belly up. Here is an interesting report on the Qantas problem. Check out the 9 disputes Joyce has been involved in, Bob


9 Huge Battles Alan Joyce Has Fought | Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com.au/nine-huge-battles-alan-joyce-has-fought-2014-2#Qantas-Emirates)