D4 factory fit SatNav..

[Bluepippa]

Looking at getting a my10 D4 and have seen a couple with the factory fit satnav and reversing camera.... Is it worth paying a premium for a car with this fitted? Does it offer any other features over the standard D4 smaller screen, that I should be aware of. I do intend taking the D4 off road, so will the terrain response info on the screen really make a difference, or is it just a gimmic?

Cheers
Daryl

[nat_89]

Looking at getting a my10 D4 and have seen a couple with the factory fit satnav and reversing camera.... Is it worth paying a premium for a car with this fitted? Does it offer any other features over the standard D4 smaller screen, that I should be aware of. I do intend taking the D4 off road, so will the terrain response info on the screen really make a difference, or is it just a gimmic?

Cheers
Daryl

I would say definitely worth the extra money to have the larger screen and sat nav. But it's really up to personal opinion

[letherm]

I've got both. I agree that the larger screen is better IMOH. Regarding the Terrain Response display, it shows a number of functions - wheel orientation and attitude is one that may be handy to some people if for example your in a situation where you've been spinning the steering wheel back and forth and want to be sure which way the front wheels are pointing. Another one was how much the center diff lock was engaged - 3 phases. Can't remember the other stuff and my car's at the dealer for a minor fix so I can't look ATM. Overall you could say it's a nice to have toy but not essential. When I get the car back I'll have a look and let you know.

[Celtoid]

Hi,


I've a MY10 SE that I'm about to sell as I have just purchased a MY13. The MY10 has the integrated SATNAV and the MY13 does not. I would have preferred to have everything integrated again but couldn't get the right combo of exterior and interior colour with the options I wanted. :-(


However, there is a bit more to it.


In order to support SATNAV or Reverse cameras the car must have a Harmon and Kardon sound system. This 'package' comes with a larger Multi-Functional Screen..... or so I believe. I think that package brings more functionality than the smaller screen.


So if the car you are looking at has the smaller screen, it lacks more than just visual functionality .... if that matters to you. I don't know how good the standard sound system is.


My new car has a reversing camera and a H&K sound system. Whilst that is good, it presents a quandary. If it had the basic screen, I believe that there are lots of SATNAVs on the market that will give all sorts of extra benefits. However, I would like to fit mine into the car. If the non-OEM SATNAV cannot replicate what the H&K system, plus Multi-Functional Display can do ..... well that could be an issue.


I need to look around and see what's available and to work out what I would gain or lose with a non-OEM SATNAV screen. In hind-sight .... I've never used the terrain response system screen whilst off road.


That probably doesn't help .... LOL.


Cheers,


Kev.

[simoncs]

Personally I don't think satnsv is worth it. It was top of my list when i bought my MY12. But it is the worst satnav I gave ever used. I now just use my phone. The satnav takes too long to type in addresses, you cant change address whilst moving, and the routes it chooses are terrible. The final straw was when it wanted me to perform a u-turn on the harbour bridge. I have complained to LR and the car has been back to the dealer twice to try to rectify it. I have been told there is nothing more that can be done. There is also a thread on disco.co.uk. I love my car, I just can't understand why they would cut corners on the satnav.

[jammers]

I have one with nav due to wife saying reverse camera mandatory. Nav has been fine for me neat features like "need more fuel to get to destination" is nice. Also use the off road mode and you can leave "bread crumbs" while you explore , proved useful a couple of times. Also has a big screen compass.

Biggest issue above about 5km/h can't enter addresses. Funny since you can play with every other option which are just as distracting as entering addresses. I'd pay money to change it but nothing has been forth coming.

[GP1200]

Hi Jammers, I didn't know the factory version had a breadcrumb option,
I must check the handbook again!
In regards to the SE Tech Pack, I do really like the HK sound system,rev camera and the extra bits of info provided with the bigger screen, yes agree the Nav can be a little frustrating at times, but overall I would take this option every time.
Jack

[Celtoid]

Personally I don't think satnsv is worth it. It was top of my list when i bought my MY12. But it is the worst satnav I gave ever used. I now just use my phone. The satnav takes too long to type in addresses, you cant change address whilst moving, and the routes it chooses are terrible. The final straw was when it wanted me to perform a u-turn on the harbour bridge. I have complained to LR and the car has been back to the dealer twice to try to rectify it. I have been told there is nothing more that can be done. There is also a thread on disco.co.uk. I love my car, I just can't understand why they would cut corners on the satnav.

I can't compare my LR SATNAV to non-OEM systems as I have never used one. However, functionality wise, it poohs all over my wife's (much newer) Merc SATNAV. It is freakin terrible ... with a stupid 'mouse' setup. It is much faster when you use voice command but even then I can set mine easily twice as fast. I believe BMW and Audi have a similar 'mouse' based approach.

[Celtoid]

Hi Jammers, I didn't know the factory version had a breadcrumb option,
I must check the handbook again!
In regards to the SE Tech Pack, I do really like the HK sound system,rev camera and the extra bits of info provided with the bigger screen, yes agree the Nav can be a little frustrating at times, but overall I would take this option every time.
Jack

It certainly does have the 'Breadcrumb' feature in my MY10 SATNAV.

[Colin Pedersen]

Daryl.....have recently purchased my own my10 D4 3.0 HSE - love the car and the 4th Disco I've owned. The integrated information center is a must for me. All the integrated features are there as mentioned in earlier posts and it all works seamlessly, stereo, iPod, 4x4 info, phone system etc etc. The Satnav may not be the best....but it gets you there, has a number of other fancy features around views available, time remaining and fancy compasses.

But...beware, to update the MY10 model requires the dealer to update the onboard hard drive - an expensive removal process - whereas the later models are updated via USB connection, a simpler and cheaper activity....I'm still running an old map until I have a spare $5-600!

Col.

[pbhawkin]

HI,
I have a MY13 Oct D4 HSE and I can not find any setting/option to put the satnav into 'off road' mode NOR can I find a 'breadcrumb' feature.
Any help locating these?
I also have found how to access the 'hidden' service menu but I guess it's not in there.

[rufusking]

When you are in Nav screen push Nav again and it will give the option for On Road or Off Road mode.

I'd have to play with the settings again in Off road mode for the menu options for tracks but they are there.

[pbhawkin]

hi Rufusking,
I have just had a look. BUT I can see NO options for this. The closest is ;user settings' and then a list of 9 options but nothing to do with on or off road. 'Route options' also doesn't help as it is about 'learning route' and 'easy route' (whatever that is?) on or off.
I have taken photos of each screen and can upload when I get home from work if needed.


peter

[catsman]

Can you retro fit a reverse camera to the smaller default screen?

[letherm]

hi Rufusking,
I have just had a look. BUT I can see NO options for this. The closest is ;user settings' and then a list of 9 options but nothing to do with on or off road. 'Route options' also doesn't help as it is about 'learning route' and 'easy route' (whatever that is?) on or off.
I have taken photos of each screen and can upload when I get home from work if needed.


peter


I think rufusking king is talking about the plastic button below the screen marked NAV. Tried it this morning and it brings up a screen saying on road use / off road use. If you select off road use it brings up a new map screen with different icons to select. The "breadcrumb" one is called Track I think.

[pbhawkin]

well there you go!
I don't have ANY (physical) buttons associated with the factory fitted centre screen.
it is a Oct My2013 HSE D4 with Harmon Kardon sound system (9 speaker) so should be the top of the range fit out.


PETER

[Celtoid]

well there you go!
I don't have ANY (physical) buttons associated with the factory fitted centre screen.
it is a Oct My2013 HSE D4 with Harmon Kardon sound system (9 speaker) so should be the top of the range fit out.


PETER

Hi Peter,


It sounds like there has been a few 'Buttonology' (I know that isn't a word ;-)) changes over the last few years.


I often feel the earlier models had more equipment fitted as standard, as market sweeteners probably.


I've got a 2013 Spec Sheet, which I thought was the Australian one ... but maybe not. It states the lowest H&K system should be 11 speakers and that the premium Nav fitted to the HSE has 4X4 information but states nothing about Offroad. Maybe it's been removed?


Very frustrating trying to figure it out.


Kev.

[pbhawkin]

Hi all,
OK, On further looking (always helps to look twice and answer once!!) I do have a NAV button!! It is in a row with 3 others between the volume control knob and the mode control knob!
So on pressing that the first screen that comes up is one that offers either on or off road navigation!! And if off road is pressed a whole lot of option come up including 'trace' (or breadcrumbs) as well as saving routes and waypoints amongst others, Totally useless for driving on roads unless you plot a LOT of waypoints!
But the breadcrumbs remain even when swapped back to on road navigation (unless you go back into off road and turn them off).
So it looks like I have a lot more playing to do in the privacy of my own garage!
Oh and Kev, I may well have 11 speakers as two of the grills I counted has two speakers behind it!

[letherm]

Well that saves me posting the pics I just took to help :)

I have a MY13 HSE as well but nov build. Thought it odd yours wasn't the same. Mystery solved, enjoy.

[letherm]

Looking at getting a my10 D4 and have seen a couple with the factory fit satnav and reversing camera.... Is it worth paying a premium for a car with this fitted? Does it offer any other features over the standard D4 smaller screen, that I should be aware of. I do intend taking the D4 off road, so will the terrain response info on the screen really make a difference, or is it just a gimmic?

Cheers
Daryl

Hi Daryl

Some screen shots so you can see what you get.

The last screen shows Extra Features which is how you get into the 4WD screens shown above it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/65.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/66.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/192.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/191.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/67.jpg

[nat_89]

Well that saves me posting the pics I just took to help :)

I have a MY13 HSE as well but nov build. Thought it odd yours wasn't the same. Mystery solved, enjoy.

I was thinking the same thing as I think mine is nov 13 build to. There are 11 speakers one in dash a tweeter in each door near the a pillar 2 behind each grille in each of the 4 doors.

[PeterJ]

Hi all, has anyone been able to alter or turn off the auto timeout for the 4x4 info screens, I find the compass really useful but the auto timeout really not

Thanks

[LRD414]

Hi all, has anyone been able to alter or turn off the auto timeout for the 4x4 info screens, I find the compass really useful but the auto timeout really not
Peter, do you mean the 4x4 info screen times-out from this screen:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/191.jpg

To this screen ?:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/192.jpg

Regards,
Scott

[letherm]

Hi all, has anyone been able to alter or turn off the auto timeout for the 4x4 info screens, I find the compass really useful but the auto timeout really not

Thanks

I've never kept it only long enough to notice it time out. How long does it take and I'll see what happens with mine if you like?

Martin

[PeterJ]

Hi Scott actually mine backs completely out to the home screen. I just happen to like keeping an eye on direction when off road and also what the e-diff and centre diff is up to.

I haven't actually timed it to see how long it takes, EWAG is 10 minutes.

Regards
PeterJ
(Sent from the Note 4 using AULRO mobile app)

[LRD414]

Hi Scott actually mine backs completely out to the home screen. I just happen to like keeping an eye on direction when off road and also what the e-diff and centre diff is up to.
I agree and keep it on the screen showing the diff and axle articulation all the time when off road and it never times out that I've seen.
I've certainly had it on for way more than 10 minutes too. Compass screen I have only used sparingly so not sure.
Doesn't really help you but perhaps there is a timeout function somewhere.

Scott

[PeterJ]

Thanks Scott, so I will time it and find out when I can then do a bit more research . Too busy today getting ready for the trip north next week, the amount of rain recently I might be looking for the 4x4 paddle wheel option.:)

Regards
PeterJ
(Sent from the Note 4 using AULRO mobile app)

[letherm]

Thanks Scott, so I will time it and find out when I can then do a bit more research . Too busy today getting ready for the trip north next week, the amount of rain recently I might be looking for the 4x4 paddle wheel option.:)

Regards
PeterJ
(Sent from the Note 4 using AULRO mobile app)

You've already got paddles on your wheel.:angel::angel::angel:

Martin

[LandyAndy]

No compass in mine:(:(:(:(,no sat nav either.
I rekon Ive seen a place where you control time out of other screens to the main screen,probably was in the setup button on the dash.
Andrew

[LRD414]

No compass in mine:(:(:(:(,no sat nav either.

I rekon Ive seen a place where you control time out of other screens to the main screen,probably was in the setup button on the dash.

Andrew

You don't have the 4x4 info screen Andrew?
That's where the compass is found.

I recall a timeout thing somewhere too.

Scott

[LandyAndy]

I have that screen,no compass on it,you have sat nav dont you???
Where the 3 touch sections are below the compass,I only have 2.
Andrew

[Cambo_oldjaguar]

You only get the compass if you have factory fitted Navigation.

And if the "Off Road Navigation" is activated in the CCF.

[PeterJ]

So, I tried it today and 2 to 3 minutes before the compass screen defaults back to the home screen.

We just have to find that "timeout thing", :o and yes, the same screens as Scott posted in the photos earlier.

Does anyone else with sat and offroad nav get this timeout??

[LandyAndy]

So, I tried it today and 2 to 3 minutes before the compass screen defaults back to the home screen.

We just have to find that "timeout thing", :o

Did you find the setup area???,try the dash button.I rekon I saw it in the same area where you can put a pic of a D4 on the main screen.
Hoping Im not dreaming:):):):):)
Andrew

[PeterJ]

I will go searching tomorrow............thanks all

I went searching and found it...........problem solved

[LandyAndy]

Peter found it,I checked mine today.
For those wondering.
Press the dash "setup" button.
On the bigscreen you then touch screen.You get the option to have return to home screen on or off,if on,you can choose the "time out" period.
There is also the option to display "The Green Oval",a Disco,or a disco in the forrest as a screen saver:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:.
Andrew

[Basil135]

I drove with mine on right thru the Blue Mountains. Mainly so the kids could see how high we were, while admiring the view out of the windows.

Never had it time out, so it must be that setting.