New grader isnt new any more

[LandyAndy]

2 years ago I got a new grader to steer at work,one of them flash CAT things with no steering wheel.

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Todays hour meter reading.
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Love it!!!!
We are overdue for another new grader,my old Volvo gets replaced,my current CAT goes to maintence work and I get a new one.
Have been to demos of Volvo and Komatsu over the last 6 months.I want another CAT:cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[Pilbara130]

Haha took me a while to warm to the 16M but now I love them.
Dan

[Basil135]

How does one "steer" without a steering wheel? ;)

Surely, one must simply guide. :angel:


Gotta love the "point & shoot" thou...

[LandyAndy]

I love the joysticks Dan.When we had one demoed before we bought this one I took 5 mins to learn it,the CAT people thought I had been operating one in the past.
Bloody good machine for roadworks,you can pull a 3 point turn with articulation and get the blade spun around ready to go again all at the same time,you cant do that in a lever operated machine.
Wait to you try a Volvo joystic machine,they got it so WRONG:(:(:(:(:(:( SAD,my last grader was a G930 Volvo and if the joystics on the new one were as good as CAT I would have been very happy with another Volvo,they have stacks of grunt!!!
Andrew

[lyonsy]

2000 hours that a baby barely been run in :p
I have to maintain 2 series 1 140H with over 14000 hours each and the newest in the fleet is a 12m which has close to 7000 hours on it all council graders
cats prob not the best grader now but at least you can get parts for them and a mechanic over night when out in the sticks

[LandyAndy]

Haha took me a while to warm to the 16M but now I love them.
Dan

I would love to have a crack at a 24M Dan.For those who dont understand,they are phsically double the size of my 12M in the picture.
Have chatted with the CAT reps I deal with,they tell me they will get me an invite to a 24M demo day.
Have a demo day coming up in the next few months with CAT for the new 12M,basically its now almost the same specs as a 14M:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

2000 hours that a baby barely been run in :p
I have to maintain 2 series 1 140H with over 14000 hours each and the newest in the fleet is a 12m which has close to 7000 hours on it all council graders
cats prob not the best grader now but at least you can get parts for them and a mechanic over night when out in the sticks

Yep,just run in,the 2000 hours are all mine:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Put around 6000 hours on Helga(G930 Volvo),and 2000 on the 12H CAT before that.Did a few hundred hours on a Deere 670CH,that was a bloody good machine too.
Andrew

[lyonsy]

so does your 12m still have the perkapillar or has it got a caterpillar engine in it? (the old hui engine)
make sure ya new rig has the 17.5 (or what ever the bigger rim and tyre size is like you have now the smaller tyre's are rubbish and need tubes otherwise when you screw around real hard the beads let a bit of air out) also dont last very long compared to the bigger tyres

[LandyAndy]

My 12M has the big tyres and 14 foot blade.Yep its the Perkins mojo and thats my biggest whinge,it has no balls to push the 14ft blade,you have to operate at max revs all the time and be ready to drop gears before it loads up.The old Volvo will push the same dirt at half throttle,it has a 14ft blade and skinny tyres:):):):):).
The new 12Ms have the 14M motor,the reps tell me I will stop whinging about no grunt when I play in one.
Andrew

[lyonsy]

tell the rep he owes you a slab there now getting the same donk as the 140m which is a c7 acert which is a new version of the old 3126b (140m is basicly a 12m with a 14ft blade and big tyres so what you have but with more grunt) or if your real lucky you will get the same engine as the 140m AWD being a c9 acert
as the c11 acert (newer version of the 3176) wont fit a 12m/140m engine bay :(

btw ill take some photo's of our graders as yours looks far too new unscratched and undamaged as some operators have worked out how to fit the blade up 90 deg's and go trim tree's with the blade

[LandyAndy]

My CAT men would love to get me into another M
I got to spend a day at Westracs expense in the Westrac Corporate Tent at the V8 taxi racing at Barbagallo when we got this grader,I will make sure I get the same again if they supply another grader;);););)
Andrew

[lyonsy]

yeah yeah rub it operators getting all the luxury while us bloody mechanics have to fix the bloody things

[Pilbara130]

24M is great if you have the room we only use ours for haul roads nothing else or you damage them in tight areas like drill preps. Would rather have two 16s than a 24.

[klonk]

Yea I second that comment Lyonsy, grease his door handles:twisted: actually denso tape is better though, feels real creepy.

Love the perkapillar engine name, I think works one came to Australia by deck cargo on a submarine ,we've had ours painted twice at westacs expense due to rust.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

2 years ago I got a new grader to steer at work,one of them flash CAT things with no steering wheel.

Todays hour meter reading.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/51.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/001_zps9321d88a.jpg.html)
Andrew

Gees Andy,, dont let Brian see those numbers:o

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I got to spend a day at Westracs expense in the Westrac Corporate Tent at the V8 taxi racing at Barbagallo ;);););)
Andrew

yea,, just fluff.

the big question.

Did you get the JACKET?

[BMKal]

Hey Andrew - just ordered a trailer mounted gen-set yesterday - with a C27 acert Cat engine on it.

One of them in your grader would give it a little bit of grunt. :D

With 2,000 hrs on the clock after 2 years, you must be parking up and having a nana nap in the afternoons. The new 992 loader we put on one of our jobs a year ago already has nearly 7,400 hours up. Will be due for a mid-life soon the way things are going. :p

And Klonk - denso tape on the door handles - that's just nasty. Sounds like you'd be one of those blokes who puts blackjack on the dunny seats. :angel:

[Bigbjorn]

Hey Andrew - just ordered a trailer mounted gen-set yesterday - with a C27 acert Cat engine on it.

One of them in your grader would give it a little bit of grunt. :D

With 2,000 hrs on the clock after 2 years, you must be parking up and having a nana nap in the afternoons. The new 992 loader we put on one of our jobs a year ago already has nearly 7,400 hours up. Will be due for a mid-life soon the way things are going. :p

And Klonk - denso tape on the door handles - that's just nasty. Sounds like you'd be one of those blokes who puts blackjack on the dunny seats. :angel:

BM, rule of thumb in the mining and construction equipment business is that shire gear averages 16 hours per week over the machine's working life. Usual trade-in is at 10-12 years and around 10,000 hours. On that basis Andy is working harder than the usual council sleeper at 19 machine hours per week. Gear we sold into the CQ coalfields commonly worked around the clock and sometimes had an in-frame engine overhaul from fair wear and tear inside the two year warranty period. I remember a dragline support dozer at Goonyella that had 9,000+ hours inside eighteen months.

[lyonsy]

Na just d/c the seat air pump nothing makes a operator winge more then not having the air seat.
Denso tape is nasty stuff

[nat_89]

BM, rule of thumb in the mining and construction equipment business is that shire gear averages 16 hours per week over the machine's working life. Usual trade-in is at 10-12 years and around 10,000 hours. On that basis Andy is working harder than the usual council sleeper at 19 machine hours per week. Gear we sold into the CQ coalfields commonly worked around the clock and sometimes had an in-frame engine overhaul from fair wear and tear inside the two year warranty period. I remember a dragline support dozer at Goonyella that had 9,000+ hours inside eighteen months.

Jeeze im not sure a DRE support dozer would have that many hours in such a short amount of time they are lucky to do 2 - 3 hours a day just the odd push, when pushing a roll off thats about it!

[nat_89]

I would love to have a crack at a 24M Dan.For those who dont understand,they are phsically double the size of my 12M in the picture.
Have chatted with the CAT reps I deal with,they tell me they will get me an invite to a 24M demo day.
Have a demo day coming up in the next few months with CAT for the new 12M,basically its now almost the same specs as a 14M:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

We have i think 4 24M's at work and 2 16M's and generally the 24's are an awesome machine love them not to keen on the 16's just to small to be running around with 797F's

[Bigbjorn]

Place I worked for in the 1980's were agents for Raygo products, mostly rollers and bitumen machinery. They did build a grader for mines. A power module pivoting each end of an arch like a twin power scraper. The operator sat in a cab atop the front module. The power was provided by an 8V71N Detroit each end. A 24' x 9' blade hung off the arch with the usual tilt and turn facility. Christ, couldn't they push with two 318 hp Detroits on full song. Very versatile once the operators got the idea. You could put a power module up on a terrace and the blade vertical to trim a bloody cliff face. We sold a few into the CQ coalfields and a couple into WA iron but the company got taken over and asset stripped. One of those machines whose versatility exceeded the intellect of the average operator.

[LandyAndy]

BM, rule of thumb in the mining and construction equipment business is that shire gear averages 16 hours per week over the machine's working life. Usual trade-in is at 10-12 years and around 10,000 hours. On that basis Andy is working harder than the usual council sleeper at 19 machine hours per week. Gear we sold into the CQ coalfields commonly worked around the clock and sometimes had an in-frame engine overhaul from fair wear and tear inside the two year warranty period. I remember a dragline support dozer at Goonyella that had 9,000+ hours inside eighteen months.

Grader steerer is only part of my job description Brian,if it was grader steerer only you could double that number!!!! You cant do roadworks at nite so why bother comparing shire machine hours to mine machine hours on a 24 hour shift.
Was up in Perth the other day reaserching a new method of repairing roads ****ed by roadtrains.Materials for the job to be fixed in this new to us method,$25000.To get the same job cement stabalised by a Bomag,$45000+.In our area the Bomag work isnt too sucsessful,normally blows out in 3 to 4 years.
Yet another job I get to learn and add to my resume:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Jeeze im not sure a DRE support dozer would have that many hours in such a short amount of time they are lucky to do 2 - 3 hours a day just the odd push, when pushing a roll off thats about it!

Brian is a dreamer,just read some of his posts.A legend in his own lunchbox;);););););).
Andrew

[V8Ian]

You cant do roadworks at nite

Was up in Perth the other day reaserching a new method of repairing roads ****ed by roadtrains.
Andrew

Someone should tell Fulton Hogan and Boral et al that they can't work at night unless that's the trick to building roads that don't fall apart under roadtrains. :cool::cool::cool:;)

[LandyAndy]

Someone should tell Fulton Hogan and Boral et al that they can't work at night unless that's the trick to building roads that don't fall apart under roadtrains. :cool::cool::cool:;)

You are as clever as your mate Brian.
Small country town running roadworks 24 hours a day like they can in the city by multi nationaly owned companies.GET REAL.
Andrew

[V8Ian]

You are as clever as your mate Brian.
Small country town running roadworks 24 hours a day like they can in the city by multi nationaly owned companies.GET REAL.
Andrew
You made a blanket statement that was patently wrong. Thousands of roadworkers all over the country work every night.

[Trundle]

It's hard to get the permission for 24hour works, especially in small towns. The EPA regulations basically require it to be essential works that can't be undertaken reasonably at any other time. Besides a council has less contractural deadlines to meet than a contracted civil constructor, and no time bonuses. 2000 hours is not a bad effort for a single person, especially when there is still other work to be done.

[nat_89]

Brian is a dreamer,just read some of his posts.A legend in his own lunchbox;);););););).
Andrew

Haha that's for sure I know our dragline dozers sometimes do 45 mins in 24 hours. We always like borrowing as there always new and go good because they've had so little work for the age haha some I've seen 2 year old D10Ts with under 1200 hours crazy haha