Vehicle Hoist

[Ancient Mariner]

Having got to an age where it takes 5 minutes to get on a creeper and under the Defender then 5 more minutes wondering what I am supposed to be doing under there:( I have decided to buy a 2 post hoist 4.5 ton $2950 on ebay
Anybody with any thoughts pos or neg or height to the top of a Def roof when at a good working height

Thanks

AM

[spudboy]

I have a 4000Kg (9000Lb) 2 post hoist from the USA.

It is great to get things up to a usable height, so no complaints there, but it is a bit of a pain getting the legs to locate on the Defender chassis. Fair bit of crawling around and positioning the legs, then raising a bit, and then checking again. Once it's up - all good, but I can see why professional shops have 4 posters, as you just drive straight on to them.

I've a mate with a 4 poster, and he got some clever hydraulic jacks that fit between the ramps if he wants to lift the wheels off the ramp.

So - 2 poster is better than nothing (of course) but I might be talked into a 4 poster next time....

HTH
David

[Vern]

I have a tufflift 3.7tonne high lift two poster, best investment to the shed I've made. $3300 installed from memory, was on special.:)

[Ancient Mariner]

Thanks for the input finished up just bought 4.5 ton 2 post clear floor. Lift to 2070mm .I agree a bit of a pain to position but a few paint marks on floor and arms should make it a bit easier .The 2post allows you to drop a diff assembly out if need be and gives better access to the chassis rails,just a bit more versatile .Now for the mobility scooter:D:wheelchair:

Vern as you suggested the Fluke cable locater not much chop:( .Borrowed a proper x telstra one for couple of weeks for a carton Worked a treat:D

Thanks Noel

[Hoges]

Having stalked various "sheds" for a couple of years, the access available from a properly set up 2-post lift is quite something.
With the P38 however, there is a quite pointed warning from LR NOT to use other than a 4 post lift on a Range Rover as it can be unsafe. Essentially LR say that the risk lies with the user and manufacturer of the 2 post lift. I am wondering if this is because of weight, or its distribution etc ...
First however, get yourself a proper shed!!:(

[rovercare]

Having stalked various "sheds" for a couple of years, the access available from a properly set up 2-post lift is quite something.
With the P38 however, there is a quite pointed warning from LR NOT to use other than a 4 post lift on a Range Rover as it can be unsafe. Essentially LR say that the risk lies with the user and manufacturer of the 2 post lift. I am wondering if this is because of weight, or its distribution etc ...
First however, get yourself a proper shed!!:(

Air suspension, they pick up the same as a classic....who reads the owners manual that far in deapth anyhow?:D

[rovercare]

Oh, I've had 2 from tufflift, both have been good 4T 2 posters

[uninformed]

a mate with a hoist is a bloody good mate indeed :D

[rovercare]

a mate with a hoist is a bloody good mate indeed :D

I'd rather have my own hoist, but my mate with a pool:D

[Vern]

I'd rather have my own hoist, but my mate with a pool:D

Or a mate with a boat:D

[Ancient Mariner]

Spoilt now got a hoist, a boat a pool that takes a couple of hours to drive around a good dog and no bitchin woman and to top it off the Defender is nearly finished:D:p:D

LG

AM

[uninformed]

I'd rather have my own hoist, but my mate with a pool:D

folks have got a pool, mate that lets me use his hoist also has a brand new 3 seat Yamaha jet ski :D

Id be happy with a shed :(

[DoubleChevron]

how much more are the 4posters with belly lift :confused: They would have to be the best of the lot :)

I don't see why the 2poster matters with EAS ...... The wheels will just dangle like they should, and you'll need to start the car when it's back on the ground as it'll have bled all of the air out of the suspension to try and get it back to normal ride height (same deal with hydraulic citroens that "collapse" when jacked or lifted by anything other than the wheels).

seeya,
Shane L.

[Hoges]

I suspect it's an issue of balance etc. and getting the supports in exactly the right place on the chassis. I recall seeing a couple of references to P38s being dropped from 2 post lifts... Apart from that, if non-standard shock absorbers have been fitted (i.e. stroke too long) the axles will drop too far the air bags will burst off the pistons, height sensors become distorted and brake lines etc can be stretched.... some people fit safety cables between the axle and the chassis to prevent this...

[mark2]

I have a 2 post 'tufflift' and prefer it over a 4 post for suspension and other wheel off work. Best piece of gear I've ever bought. A 2 poster can do jobs like lifting a body off a chassis or testing suspension travel which would be next to impossible with a 4 post. However a 4 poster is great for doubling up on parking space in a shed, being a lot more convenient to drive onto. Also for quick oil changes/inspections/exhaust work etc. Even with the 2 post, I always have the least used vehicle on it so as to double stack and maximise shed space. Ideally, I'd have a 2 post and a 4 post, but that would be greedy...

[DoubleChevron]

I have a 2 post 'tufflift' and prefer it over a 4 post for suspension and other wheel off work. Best piece of gear I've ever bought. A 2 poster can do jobs like lifting a body off a chassis or testing suspension travel which would be next to impossible with a 4 post. However a 4 poster is great for doubling up on parking space in a shed, being a lot more convenient to drive onto. Also for quick oil changes/inspections/exhaust work etc. Even with the 2 post, I always have the least used vehicle on it so as to double stack and maximise shed space. Ideally, I'd have a 2 post and a 4 post, but that would be greedy...

It depends on your use too. If you have also own cars with hydraulic/air suspension, you can't get them onto a 2post hoist as there isn't enough ground clearance ( think 1/4" ground clearance, 124" wheelbase). You can still get these onto a 4post.

Now I think about it, you really want one of each :twisted::twisted:

[manofaus]

I wonder if you could make two platforms out of rhs and checker plate that you could use under the car on a two to make it like a 4 poster. With some cross bracing.

[Grappler]

Never had a problem with the RRS on my 2 poster.
As you can see the bags are fully down but always reset ok when I select normal level. The tyres do scuff out sideways when it lands out on the floor- but I just land it slowly

I got the extra outriggers. (see pic) The two beams running parallel to the vehicle bolted to the floor and each post. This spreads the load if its a bit unbalanced lengthways.
The outriggers are also necessary if your concrete is less than 150mm thick