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moparrangie
27th February 2014, 06:10 PM
I picked up a series1 1956 short ute a week ago. Basically in great condition, just oil leaks from the engine sump, rocker cover and side plate. Now this thing drives great apart from lack of brakes. The master cylinder is shot so I ordered another one. It turned up today but is only 2 bolt flange not 3 bolt as what's on it. I can make the  2 bolt fit but that's going to take elongating the holes to change the PCD by 7mm. 
Is this what most people have to do when changing master cylinders on the series 1s?
Also the adjustable link out of the master cylinder is a different thread but that's easy to change by just clipping the old one into the master cylinder.
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russellrovers
27th February 2014, 06:15 PM
I picked up a series1 1956 short ute a week ago. Basically in great condition, just oil leaks from the engine sump, rocker cover and side plate. Now this thing drives great apart from lack of brakes. The master cylinder is shot so I ordered another one. It turned up today but is only 2 bolt flange not 3 bolt as what's on it. I can make the  2 bolt fit but that's going to take elongating the holes to change the PCD by 7mm. 
Is this what most people have to do when changing master cylinders on the series 1s?
Also the adjustable link out of the master cylinder is a different thread but that's easy to change by just clipping the old one into the master cylinder.
Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runneri can swop that one for you but you would have to resleev mine jim
wrinklearthur
27th February 2014, 11:21 PM
The three hole master cylinders are still available for the 80" Minvera and can be made to fit the 86" by swapping over the pushrod.
I would sell the two bolt pattern one to someone with a 88" Series 2 and go to eBay in Belgian to pick up the three bolt one, the price of the one I brought wasn't too bad either. 
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moparrangie
28th February 2014, 05:13 AM
Ah thanks for that. I will make the 2 bolt fit for now and hunt up a 3 bolt from  over there
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gromit
28th February 2014, 06:04 AM
There is a 2-bolt conversion kit available from the UK (saves modifying the outrigger). I'll see if I can remember who the supplier was.
Found it http://www.dingocroft.co.uk/acatalog/Series1_Brakes-p3.html
Colin
moparrangie
28th February 2014, 06:38 AM
Thanks for that
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moparrangie
28th February 2014, 08:20 PM
Made an adaptor up. It all bolts up good just need to give it some shape and alls good
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Bundy
3rd March 2014, 06:06 PM
These guys also do a kit as well as a lot of other useful stuff 
Radford Bulkheads - Carl & Dale Radford (http://www.radfordbulkheads.lrsoc.com/)
incisor
3rd March 2014, 08:56 PM
The three hole master cylinders are still available for the 80" Minvera and can be made to fit the 86" by swapping over the pushrod.
I would sell the two bolt pattern one to someone with a 88" Series 2 and go to eBay in Belgian to pick up the three bolt one, the price of the one I brought wasn't too bad either. 
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got a link to it?
wrinklearthur
4th March 2014, 07:25 AM
got a link to it?
:( It look's like their all gone.
I will have another scratch about, but for the moment there's none to be found.
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incisor
4th March 2014, 09:19 AM
:P
wasnt just my ineptitude then... phew...
wrinklearthur
4th March 2014, 10:47 AM
Description: Minerva Serie I Landrover Serie I Hauptbremszylinder Lucas Type 19 mm 3/4" NEU 
Google Translate (http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/Minerva-Serie-I-Landrover-Serie-I-Hauptbremszylinder-Lucas-Type-19-mm-3-4-NEU-/370661131838&prev=/search%3Fq%3DDescription:%2BMinerva%2BSerie%2BI%2B Landrover%2BSerie%2BI%2BHauptbremszylinder%2BLucas %2BType%2B19%2Bmm%2B3/4%2522%2BNEU%26rlz%3D1C1ARAB_enAU459AU467%26es_sm% 3D93)
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wrinklearthur
4th March 2014, 11:01 AM
Crazy description but there is one here.
Jeep Minerva Serie I Hauptbremszylinder Lucas Type Kolbendurchmesser 19mm 3 4" | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200908843197?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fsch %2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D2009 08843197%26LH_PrefLoc%3D2%26_rdc%3D1)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
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dandlandyman
4th March 2014, 03:52 PM
I would get the old one stainless steel sleeved. Expensive, I know but you would basically never be looking for a new one again, just the seal kit when the time came. 
Dan.
69 2A 88" pet4 (still in disguise), 68 2B FC pet6 (still resting quietly), plus 20 (no, not a misprint!) other parts/project cars (2xS2s, 7xS2As, 11xS3s). I think I may have gotten a bit carried away.....
moparrangie
5th March 2014, 09:24 PM
The adaptor I made worked great. About  30 mins work cost 3 dollars haha. Will keep 3 bolt original to sleeve when I can be bothered. Being a machinist 5 days a week means I hate machining stuff in my own time
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moparrangie
12th March 2014, 11:06 AM
Well the new cylinder lasted 1 good drive and it leaks😡
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LoveB
13th March 2014, 02:51 PM
I might get mine sleeved too if i dont get the minerva one. Mine is still in good nick I think
moparrangie
13th March 2014, 10:26 PM
Check out these guys..https://www.powerbrakes.com.au/
A mate put me on to this lot
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gromit
21st March 2014, 08:37 PM
Just took delivery of a Minerva master cylinder (thanks Arthur).
I'll post pics in my 'Series I with PTO welder' thread when I get a moment.
Colin
moparrangie
23rd March 2014, 04:15 PM
I just pulled the leaking 1 drive old cylinder. Looks fine but how old was the rubber? Will hunt up a new rubber and give it a go. Had problems with the fuel tank. It was full
Of anti leak but it had basically all come adrift. Cleaned the anti leak out so will see how it goes
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moparrangie
27th March 2014, 07:06 PM
Well I'm sure I have found the reason of the fluid leak on the new master cylinder. Just poor machining of a length that helps seal the inner diameter of the cup seal. A length was about .2mm long, machined .4 off and now there is positive crush on the inner diameter and seal face. Hope all goes well when refitted
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