Idiot!!

[Fitzy2011]

Last week I filled up my 2009 TDV6 wirth 40 litres of Unleaded!! I drove for 10 klms, before all the warnings started, I stopped turned it off, back on and drove another 2 klms before I stopped again. Thinking I might have had a bad dose of fuel, I checked my receipt. UNLEADED!!
I had it towed to a LR repairer in Gympie, who told me to expect between $7k and $11k as it will need new injectors and high pressure fuel pump.
They drained the tank, changed fuel filter, blew out the fuel lines, and bugger me it started. They believe that because I still had 1/2 a tank of diesel that I may have been lucky. When I got home I also changed the oil and filter and it has been running great, probably a bit better as I think the injectors are cleaner.

My question is, apart from changing the engine oil and filter and all the above, is there something else I should be doing to it that may have been affected by my stupidity??

[bbyer]

It is pretty common over here for a DIESEL decal to be located just above or below the fuel cap door; what has happened to you is not all that uncommon.

What is uncommon is you admitting it. Your engine is probably OK in that with half a tank still in there, you just were running more of an off grade diesel than any sort of hi test.

Another oil change and filters, both oil and fuel would probably not hurt. All the best.

[Canaussie]

I believe diesel is heavier Han unleaded as I have done a similar thing and drove 80km in a patrol before it started smoking and carrying on, drained tank and filled with diesel and went again after a lot of swearing cursing lol

[Rich84]

Pretty sure you'd get out of it cheaper than $7K. You can pick up HPFP new for <$1000AUD and injectors <$500 each. People are getting new TDV6 engines swapped for $10K now!

[Dagilmo]

I did the same thing in a work Hilux (admittedly, an older non turbo 3.0 ltr). Drained the fuel and bled the fuel lines. Drove it for a couple of years until end of lease without an issue.

It's a horrifying moment when your realise!!

Hope yours works out OK

[spudboy]

Hmmm. Yep. I've done that too.

What is the point of changing the oil and the oil filter though?

I can see why changing the fuel filter would be a good idea, but can't see any reason to change engine oil or engine filter.....

Cheers
David

[ade]

I thought the nozzle size prevented this from happening

[mools]

No, the nozzle size stops you putting diesel into an petrol vehicle not the other way around.

Ian.

[S3ute]

I thought the nozzle size prevented this from happening

Hello from Brisbane.

It is probably more common for the diesel hoses to be larger diameter than those on unleaded pumps - especially the hi flow hoses.

When unleaded fuel first came in the USA/Canada in the 70's the unleaded cars originally had a special small aperture filler inlet installed that prevented the regular hoses from being used. This was basically to prevent the cheaper leaded fuel being used which was a pain in the butt in small isolated places which didn't have the new unleaded pumps and hoses.

Cheers,

[reachjatt]

I wouldn't change engine oil & oil filter as i don't see how diesel/petrol will mix with engine oil

[bbyer]

I wouldn't change engine oil & oil filter as i don't see how diesel/petrol will mix with engine oil.You are of course correct, and in this case, I guess there was no real black smoke or general fuss; it is just that you do not know what may have been going on inside the engine and you assume there was no cylinder washing or just things that should not be.

An oil and filter change just seems cheap - kind of like changing the oil in the differentials after extensive wading - should not be required but ....

[Fitzy2011]

Thanks all.
I changed the oil and filter as a precaution just in case it got contaminated and for no other reason then to make me feel I did something useful instead of stupid. I always fill up with Shell who have black diesel nozzles, but this time I was in a Caltex who have black vortex unleaded, but I can assure you it won't happen again.

I also thought the quoted pricing was a bit rich, but as it turns out I didn't need it anyway. It is good to know that it can happen and you can possibly get away with it, but it's better to be careful.

This is my 7th landrover and by far the best!

[Disco Muppet]

Some injector cleaner perhaps?

[discotwinturbo]

My wife did it on my Touareg....95 litres of BP premium ultimate petrol...5 litres of diesel left in the tank.

Car shut itself down before any damage.

I told them I was pretty stressed about the cost, and they said not to worry. VW said they see it a lot, and it's only ever a minor fix as the car is smart enough to shut it all down.

Tank emptied and flush fuels lines. $600.

Brett.....

[Fitzy2011]

My wife did it on my Touareg....95 litres of BP premium ultimate petrol...5 litres of diesel left in the tank.

Car shut itself down before any damage.

I told them I was pretty stressed about the cost, and they said not to worry. VW said they see it a lot, and it's only ever a minor fix as the car is smart enough to shut it all down.

Tank emptied and flush fuels lines. $600.

Brett.....
That's good to know, thanks. I got out of it for $450 plus fuel and it did shut itself down.

[letherm]

I thought the nozzle size prevented this from happening

That's my understanding, at least on the D4 I have MY13 NOV. It came with a gadget that resets the fuel filler if you've put a petrol nozzle into the filler neck. A barrier pops across. Maybe not so on older models.

[SBD4]

That's my understanding, at least on the D4 I have MY13 NOV. It came with a gadget that resets the fuel filler if you've put a petrol nozzle into the filler neck. A barrier pops across. Maybe not so on older models.
misfuelling device was introduced on the D4

[benji]

I had a 200series fuel up with pulp and it turned itself off 200m up the road. A drain and flush was all that was required.

I had an old 'bushie' type fellow who suggested putting a cup of engine oil in and said it'll go through fine. Probably would on a 200tdi, but not on a new engine.

Only trouble is, does the fuel filler shutoff thing (a precursor to vr4) prevent filling from high flow pumps?

[SBD4]

I had a 200series fuel up with pulp and it turned itself off 200m up the road. A drain and flush was all that was required.

I had an old 'bushie' type fellow who suggested putting a cup of engine oil in and said it'll go through fine. Probably would on a 200tdi, but not on a new engine.

Only trouble is, does the fuel filler shutoff thing (a precursor to vr4) prevent filling from high flow pumps?

I have used a high flow pump with out any issue but you really need to pay close attention to slowing the pump down as the tank nears full. Otherwise you're likely to end up with a mess.

My local station has just upgraded their pumps, diesel is at every pump with a special button to switch over to high flow using a regular size nozzle. Very happy.

[steed]

Yup after all that, I would buy a lotto ticket.

[lpj]

misfuelling device was introduced on the D4 I always thought the miss fuelling device was for morons- and I guess it is. Then I discovered that I am in fact one of those morons!! Only got a couple of 100 mls in before the device kicked in.

[phl]

The only PITA is using jerry cans, the nozzle in those can also trigger the mis-fueling device if it goes in too far. Then it's embarrassing trying to find the rest tool while there is a queue behind you at a busy country town servo the day before the Christmas public holidays...

[bbyer]

Thanks all. I always fill up with Shell who have black diesel nozzles, but this time I was in a Caltex who have black vortex unleaded, but I can assure you it won't happen again.
This is my 7th Land Rover and by far the best! Over here, the diesel fuel nozzles tend to have either yellow or black plastic coverings on them.

GM and others install yellow gas caps on their petrol engine vehicles that are E85 rated, that is are deemed ethanol OK.

Green is what they use for Diesel fuel caps and black for normal petrol. As such, the GM fuel cap jpg below is not to be confused with the fuel cap off a John Deere tractor as the shade of green is a bit off.

Maybe the oil companies and the car companies should be talking to each other.

[3toes]

When ULP came in to use in Australia there was talk then of colour coding the fuel cap and the pump. Was to be green for ULP, red for Super and black for diesel. Studies had shown this was sufficient to stop 99% of miss fuels. Nothing though came of it. Perhaps was too simple and low tech to grab attention.

[3toes]

One more

Here in the UK you need to take care and watch which hose you have garbed as it is a popular trick to swap them around so the petrol and diesel are in the wrong place. Miss fuel results if you do not spot it. As each petrol station had their own idea of what colour goes with which fuel it is easier than you may think to be caught. Perhaps this is what happened here.

[SBD4]

One more

Here in the UK you need to take care and watch which hose you have garbed as it is a popular trick to swap them around so the petrol and diesel are in the wrong place. Miss fuel results if you do not spot it. As each petrol station had their own idea of what colour goes with which fuel it is easier than you may think to be caught. Perhaps this is what happened here.

It's occurred to me that smart arse kids might think it funny to swap nozzles on the bowser when the station is closed so I always check the nozzle belongs to the pump I want to use. Especially if the nozzle has no markings on it.

[theresanothersteve]

My wife did the same thing with a D3 about two years ago. Dark, murky day and a certain brand of fuel used dark colours to identify the different fuel types and 'whizz-bang' names that bear no resemblence to the type of fuel. Full tank of unleaded (the D3 was nearly empty).

Got around the corner and the motor stopped.

Towed to our independent LR specialist. Diagnosis codes related to a lack of fuel pressure, probably due to the difference in viscosity between petrol and diesel. Full flush of fuel system (full tank of unleaded wasted...).

Some discussion about long term effects. Main concern was lack of lubrication for the injectors, petrol would quickly remove any diesel residue. Decided to try it and see.

2 years and 50,000 K later there seems to be no long term damage. It appears the much maligned modern technology saves us a big repair bill.

I wouldn't recommend trying to restart a motor if this happens, the initial shutdown provides protection but repeated restarting is going to force petrol further through the fuel system.

[BMKal]

It's occurred to me that smart arse kids might think it funny to swap nozzles on the bowser when the station is closed so I always check the nozzle belongs to the pump I want to use. Especially if the nozzle has no markings on it.

Yep - have seen that regularly at a couple of places - one in Kalgoorlie is well known for it (and it's not always kids either - just idiots).

Caltex is a trap ...............

They advertise "Vortex" diesel and also "Vortex" ULP.

I got caught in Northam a while back in the D2 td5. Saw a sign as I approached the Caltex advertising "Vortex Diesel" at $X.XX per litre.

Pulled up at a bowser marked as "Vortex" and showing the advertised price of $X.XX per litre and commenced to fill up. After about 20 litres, I could distinctly smell petrol and stopped pumping. :unsure:

Just happened that on that particular day, their Vortex Diesel and Vortex ULP were the same price ..................

Drained the tank, filled up with Diesel (and gave the service station owner a little "friendly" advice about their poor advertising / signage practices) and continued driving without any problems.

Generally haven't been back to a Caltex since though - usually try to stick with BP. (The fact that a lot of Caltex places are associated with Coles or Woolies these days also has a lot to do with why I won't buy fuel from them also). ;)

Also don't have any problem filling the D4 with a hi-flow diesel pump. Just need to be careful of the angle / position you hold the nozzle or it tends to spit back at you a bit, especially since I've had the long range tank installed (which fills through the same / original filler point).

[bbyer]

It's occurred to me that smart arse kids might think it funny to swap nozzles on the bowser when the station is closed so I always check the nozzle belongs to the pump I want to use. Especially if the nozzle has no markings on it.Here, the kids roar past the pumps on their bicycles and take the windshield squeegees. Switching nozzles will probably be the new fad for this spring upcoming. I appreciate the heads up.

Actually, diesel pumps being so rare here, they tend to be located on a separate island away from the petrol pumps. That will change as diesel becomes more popular. Re naming, Mercedes would like us to use BlueTec as the name; myself, I am kind of expecting GasOil or GAZOLE as that should really confuse everyone but our language commissioners.

The jpg is from France; note the petrol nozzles are green and the GasOil, black.

[LGM]

This happened around 12 month back.

So there I am standing in the servo fuel gun in hand hand click goes the 'don't put that in there' thingy. Like the bright intelligent bloke I am, I scratch my head and continue to try to trickle the fuel into the tank. Mind you I did check and I definitely had hold of the diesel pump. One of the servo staff comes over to see what is going on (probably heard my very descriptive comments and saw my arms waiving about). Between us we give up and I drive home with a small amount of fuel in the tank.

If all else fails read the instructions! Ah!!! the mis-fueling device. :o

I scrabble around in the glove box and find the ''yellow doover'' for fixing the problem and sure enough click and all is good or so it seems.

Back to the servo for fuel. This time I check that I have the diesel pump and stick the diesel nozzle into the opening.

Then 'click' and :censored: me if I can't fuel the vehicle.

The staff member comes out again and suggests that its a Land Rover and I should expect problems. While I am listening to his view on every thing european the penny drops.

The diesel nozzle at this bowser has been fitted with a ULP spout! I point this out to the staff member who then goes silent. We both check the other pumps and sure enough its only this particular hand piece that is incorrectly fitted with the ULP spout. I then make comment that the vehicle is doing what it was designed to do and protect both itself and the nut behind the wheel from making a grave mistake.

So whilst I have not stuck ULP in the tank (touch wood) you really do need to look carefully when at the servo as they are not the be all and end all of correctness! ;)

[DanW]

Same story in our D3 (MY08). Wife filled it up from empty with unleaded. Drove off and the car stopped 2KM down the road. She got it started again and drove it another 2km - it stopped again. She got it started yet again and drove it home where it stopped for the final time. Low and High pressure fuel pumps plus all injectors completely cactus.

All parts and labour just over $11K (cost me $400 in excess on my insurance)

Dealer said it was pretty common, but most people realise before leaving the servo, the rest figure it out when the car stops, but he had never heard of someone getting the car going again after it stopped itself - twice! Hence he also reported not ever having seen one so badly damaged.

We now have our D4 and a diesel Passat but I insist on filling both cars, and I double check before I pull the trigger!

[discotwinturbo]

Same story in our D3 (MY08). Wife filled it up from empty with unleaded. Drove off and the car stopped 2KM down the road. She got it started again and drove it another 2km - it stopped again. She got it started yet again and drove it home where it stopped for the final time. Low and High pressure fuel pumps plus all injectors completely cactus. All parts and labour just over $11K (cost me $400 in excess on my insurance) Dealer said it was pretty common, but most people realise before leaving the servo, the rest figure it out when the car stops, but he had never heard of someone getting the car going again after it stopped itself - twice! Hence he also reported not ever having seen one so badly damaged. We now have our D4 and a diesel Passat but I insist on filling both cars, and I double check before I pull the trigger!

Your lucky your insurance paid out.

My previous policy and current one cover fuel contamination, but specifically exclude petrol being put into a diesel vehicle. Nearly died when I read that when my wife put petrol into about diesel Touareg. My car was ok though. I guess it starting again is what caused the damage.

And my wife too is not allowed to fill either car anymore.

Brett.....

[Tombie]

We had 2 D4D vehicles destroyed (engine) by Engineers filling them with Petrol and driving to the mines...

They get rather unhappy!

[stray dingo]

This happened around 12 month back.

So there I am standing in the servo fuel gun in hand hand click goes the 'don't put that in there' thingy. Like the bright intelligent bloke I am, I scratch my head and continue to try to trickle the fuel into the tank. Mind you I did check and I definitely had hold of the diesel pump. One of the servo staff comes over to see what is going on (probably heard my very descriptive comments and saw my arms waiving about). Between us we give up and I drive home with a small amount of fuel in the tank.

If all else fails read the instructions! Ah!!! the mis-fueling device. :o

I scrabble around in the glove box and find the ''yellow doover'' for fixing the problem and sure enough click and all is good or so it seems.

Back to the servo for fuel. This time I check that I have the diesel pump and stick the diesel nozzle into the opening.

Then 'click' and :censored: me if I can't fuel the vehicle.

The staff member comes out again and suggests that its a Land Rover and I should expect problems. While I am listening to his view on every thing european the penny drops.

The diesel nozzle at this bowser has been fitted with a ULP spout! I point this out to the staff member who then goes silent. We both check the other pumps and sure enough its only this particular hand piece that is incorrectly fitted with the ULP spout. I then make comment that the vehicle is doing what it was designed to do and protect both itself and the nut behind the wheel from making a grave mistake.

So whilst I have not stuck ULP in the tank (touch wood) you really do need to look carefully when at the servo as they are not the be all and end all of correctness! ;)

I've found the same at a couple of small country stations in my travels. While the attendant didn't regale me his/her views on Euro cars, they also didn't care less that the nozzle was 'wrong'...:)

[bbyer]

We have about the same situation over here; small towns and local norms it seems.

The locals really do not care about big city concerns; in fact you kind of get the notion that you really do not belong here in town and things are just fine the way they are. You certainly know you are an outsider.

The colour of the fuel nozzle handle cover does not really matter; whatever is handy and for the most part, there is not a plastic cover installed at all, (well perhaps pieces of one). Again, it is the view that coloured covers are a big city thing.

These days, fitting all the pumps with a small diameter spout seems to be more the norm as small fits all; in the past, it was the large diameter everywhere and you were expected to knock out the filler restriction if you had a "new" vehicle.

With most vehicles here being petrol, about all that happens is that the petrol grades get mixed up in the storage tanks. As a driver of a premium unleaded vehicle, you figure you maybe got a load of water. If it really is water and the winter, the gas line freezes and you are soon stopped. You haul the vehicle off to a heated shop and all works fine; then you drive outside and it runs until it stops again.

The first fix is to pour methanol into the gas tank to absorb the water as draining is never easy. Also a pint of methanol with every tank full in the winter can be good practice. If you can, it is also a good idea as a matter of routine, to fill up when the tank gets to about half empty as insurance against a full tank of wet or off spec fuel.

[Fitzy2011]

Thanks to all who contributed and it's good to know that I'm not alone but more impressed that it looks like I got away with it.

[roobar_and_custard]

Modern cars are all soft...
When I went travelling in a 200Tdi Defender, it was normal practice to pull into the petrol station, put in 100lts of diesel and the drive to the petrol pump and stick in another 20 litres of petrol. At -20c, that was the only way to improve the antifreeze properties of the diesel.
Had absolutely no issues at all - car ran fine with no obvious side effects - in fact, performance felt slightly better.

What damage exactly are you expecting? And why would you need injectors rebuilt?

Thoughts?
Ian.

[Fitzy2011]

Modern cars are all soft...
When I went travelling in a 200Tdi Defender, it was normal practice to pull into the petrol station, put in 100lts of diesel and the drive to the petrol pump and stick in another 20 litres of petrol. At -20c, that was the only way to improve the antifreeze properties of the diesel.
Had absolutely no issues at all - car ran fine with no obvious side effects - in fact, performance felt slightly better.

What damage exactly are you expecting? And why would you need injectors rebuilt?

Thoughts?
Ian.
Have a look at one of the other replies, all injectors and both fuel pumps and that's what the repairer said was a possibility.

[Tombie]

You may be right but the modern ones are also "harder"..

Harder acceleration
Harder pulling power

:)

[Fred Nerk]

Just to allay some fears.

If the nozzles get swapped, the trigger won't start a fuel flow. This is because the actual diesel nozzle that remains in the petrol position holds the emergency stop flap in. To put the wrong fuel in a tank requires the wrong nozzle in your tank and the wrong pump has to have an empty nozzle receptacle.

[SBD4]

Just to allay some fears.

If the nozzles get swapped, the trigger won't start a fuel flow. This is because the actual diesel nozzle that remains in the petrol position holds the emergency stop flap in. To put the wrong fuel in a tank requires the wrong nozzle in your tank and the wrong pump has to have an empty nozzle receptacle.
You know what? You are dead right! no need to worry about that one any more!:D

[bbyer]

Just to allay some fears.

If the nozzles get swapped, the trigger won't start a fuel flow. This is because the actual diesel nozzle that remains in the petrol position holds the emergency stop flap in. To put the wrong fuel in a tank requires the wrong nozzle in your tank and the wrong pump has to have an empty nozzle receptacle. It sounds like there must be a sensor inside the fuel pump "box" that knows if a fuel nozzle is sitting in one of the nozzle holders or not? I recall with older pumps, there was a lever you had to mechanically flip down or across the nozzle holder to get the pump going once you had removed the pump nozzle from where it would normally rest. Then to put the nozzle back in place, you had to flip the lever again to get it out of the way and this would also shut the pump down. Now I note that there are no flipper levers any longer across the nozzle receptacle so I guess there must now be some sort of sensor behind the nozzle holder location.

Since this thread started, I looked at our local fuel pumps. I see that for the petrol pump, while there are 3 grades of petrol, there is only one shared nozzle and hose. This theoretically means a hose full of the other grade could be pumped into ones gas tank before the desired grade entered, but that is a minor thing.

The diesel hose if mounted on the same "box" is always a separate hose and nozzle. Most often however, the diesel pump "box" is separated from the petrol by some distance and often on a distant island. I noticed this is very true of one of our local independent fuel retainers - all his stations have the diesel pump separated from the petrol pumps. I guess over the years, he has gained a good understanding of his client base.

Here, the problem is not the diesel guys; it is the petrol types looking for the cheapest price in the station.

[Fitzy2011]

Last week I filled up my 2009 TDV6 wirth 40 litres of Unleaded!! I drove for 10 klms, before all the warnings started, I stopped turned it off, back on and drove another 2 klms before I stopped again. Thinking I might have had a bad dose of fuel, I checked my receipt. UNLEADED!!
I had it towed to a LR repairer in Gympie, who told me to expect between $7k and $11k as it will need new injectors and high pressure fuel pump.
They drained the tank, changed fuel filter, blew out the fuel lines, and bugger me it started. They believe that because I still had 1/2 a tank of diesel that I may have been lucky. When I got home I also changed the oil and filter and it has been running great, probably a bit better as I think the injectors are cleaner.

My question is, apart from changing the engine oil and filter and all the above, is there something else I should be doing to it that may have been affected by my stupidity??

One thing that I have noticed since I added the wrong fuel is that my fuel economy around town has come down from exactly 10.0 liters to 9.4!! I presume the unleaded has cleaned the injectors. There has been no other issues so I guess I'm pretty lucky.

[Fitzy2011]

One thing that I have noticed since I added the wrong fuel is that my fuel economy around town has come down from exactly 10.0 liters to 9.4!! I presume the unleaded has cleaned the injectors. There has been no other issues so I guess I'm pretty lucky.




I spoke too soon! My High Pressure fuel pump died yesterday and have been quoted $2700 for parts and labour. Sounds like a lot, but I don't have much choice as it was towed to my usual LR repairer. If anyone else has had it done, could you give me indicative pricing please?

[olbod]

I spoke too soon! My High Pressure fuel pump died yesterday and have been quoted $2700 for parts and labour. Sounds like a lot, but I don't have much choice as it was towed to my usual LR repairer. If anyone else has had it done, could you give me indicative pricing please?


Out of curiousity, could you not get a HP pump out from the UK and just have the bloke fit it ?
Have you compared the part prices ?

Just interested.

[jonesy63]

That sounds like a pretty good quote to me. There is a lot of work to remove and replace the HPFP. Just cross your fingers that there are no metal bearing fragments sent with your petrol-diluted-diesel - as that will mean possibly replacing some injectors down the track.

[Hogarthde]

G'day Fitzy2011, I have my D3 booked in for new H.P F.P. ,after issues when towing big van up hills. Initial quote from independent L,R northern suburbs of brisbane, was less , if i recollect rightly, but then i have been known to recollect wrong.

Must get my bride to e.mail them , as they suggested other expensive towing mods as well.

dave

[Fitzy2011]

Out of curiousity, could you not get a HP pump out from the UK and just have the bloke fit it ?
Have you compared the part prices ?

Just interested.

Your probably right, but I need it back ASAP so I will just have to go with it. The repairer I use has been good to me in the past, so I will accept that he is not getting stuck into me.

[Fitzy2011]

That sounds like a pretty good quote to me. There is a lot of work to remove and replace the HPFP. Just cross your fingers that there are no metal bearing fragments sent with your petrol-diluted-diesel - as that will mean possibly replacing some injectors down the track.

When I originally added the unleaded I was amazed that I got away with it, so now that I'm having issues I'm not surprised so if other issues occur ill just have to deal with it. I like the vehicle too much to consider changing it so as it was my fault I'll fix it when and if it needs it.

[3rr]

At an inflated price there are adaptors that fit into the filler that make it impossible to insert a petrol nozzle but accept diesel nozzles.
Obviously this won't solve the petrol nozzle on the diesel pump issue but it will prevent absent-mindedness - not-thinking- etc. I had a staff member who pulled up at a petrol pump in a brand-new diesel ute. The pump jockey (yep, my servo still employs them) was busy chatting her up while he merrily inserted a tank full of unleaded. That ute travelled about 50km that day with noone the wiser.....next morning I get a call from another staff member (ex mechanic of 30 years experience ), who had driven it a further 40k, saying that the thing sounded like a sewing-machine and was lacking power....upshot is that after draining and purging, it fired up straightaway with no further issues - i couldn't, and still can't, believe the idiocy of the pump jockey, the ex-mechanic, and that the ute survived seemingly unscathed. All my utes now have those adaptors.

[3rr]

At an inflated price there are adaptors that fit into the filler that make it impossible to insert a petrol nozzle but accept diesel nozzles.
Obviously this won't solve the petrol nozzle on the diesel pump issue but it will prevent absent-mindedness - not-thinking- etc. I had a staff member who pulled up at a petrol pump in a brand-new diesel ute. The pump jockey (yep, my servo still employs them) was busy chatting her up while he merrily inserted a tank full of unleaded. That ute travelled about 50km that day with noone the wiser.....next morning I get a call from another staff member (ex mechanic of 30 years experience ), who had driven it a further 40k, saying that the thing sounded like a sewing-machine and was lacking power....upshot is that after draining and purging, it fired up straightaway with no further issues - i couldn't, and still can't, believe the idiocy of the pump jockey, the ex-mechanic, and that the ute survived seemingly unscathed. All my utes now have those adaptors.

[Fitzy2011]

At an inflated price there are adaptors that fit into the filler that make it impossible to insert a petrol nozzle but accept diesel nozzles.
Obviously this won't solve the petrol nozzle on the diesel pump issue but it will prevent absent-mindedness - not-thinking- etc. I had a staff member who pulled up at a petrol pump in a brand-new diesel ute. The pump jockey (yep, my servo still employs them) was busy chatting her up while he merrily inserted a tank full of unleaded. That ute travelled about 50km that day with noone the wiser.....next morning I get a call from another staff member (ex mechanic of 30 years experience ), who had driven it a further 40k, saying that the thing sounded like a sewing-machine and was lacking power....upshot is that after draining and purging, it fired up straightaway with no further issues - i couldn't, and still can't, believe the idiocy of the pump jockey, the ex-mechanic, and that the ute survived seemingly unscathed. All my utes now have those adaptors.
I now have a female one of those adapters who reminds me every time I fill it up, so I doubt I will be allowed to do it again!

[zilch]

Your probably right, but I need it back ASAP so I will just have to go with it. The repairer I use has been good to me in the past, so I will accept that he is not getting stuck into me.

there is a guy on the Disco3 website in the UK who is pretty quick on shipment to OZ at very good prices.. widely used by the D3 and RRS community in Australia

[Fitzy2011]

there is a guy on the Disco3 website in the UK who is pretty quick on shipment to OZ at very good prices.. widely used by the D3 and RRS community in Australia

Thanks, but I just got it back, all good again!

[sdt463]

At an inflated price there are adaptors that fit into the filler that make it impossible to insert a petrol nozzle but accept diesel nozzles.
Obviously this won't solve the petrol nozzle on the diesel pump issue but it will prevent absent-mindedness - not-thinking- etc. I had a staff member who pulled up at a petrol pump in a brand-new diesel ute. The pump jockey (yep, my servo still employs them) was busy chatting her up while he merrily inserted a tank full of unleaded. That ute travelled about 50km that day with noone the wiser.....next morning I get a call from another staff member (ex mechanic of 30 years experience ), who had driven it a further 40k, saying that the thing sounded like a sewing-machine and was lacking power....upshot is that after draining and purging, it fired up straightaway with no further issues - i couldn't, and still can't, believe the idiocy of the pump jockey, the ex-mechanic, and that the ute survived seemingly unscathed. All my utes now have those adaptors.

3rr would you happen to have a link to where these adapters can be bought

Cheers Dave

[3rr]

Hi Dave - sorry about the late reply - just saw your post....
I bought the adaptors at Lilydale Mitsubishi.