2 Stoke oil in a TD5

[LandyAndy]

In the past I have read a few of you diesel steerers put a splash of 2 Stroke oil in each tank.
I have a 5lt bottle of Gulf Western MARINE 2 stroke oil that I wont be putting thru my boat,or chainsaws.New boat mechanic says genuine Mercury oil from now on.
How much/what ratio do you guys mix the 2 Stroke oil at?????
Andrew

[Ean Austral]

Gday Andrew,


I add 250mls per tank, not a lot but that's my dose.


Cheers Ean

[Shackleton]

Can I ask why you do that? And how come two tanks, are you talking about long range tanks? George

[101RRS]

I thought the 2 stroke in the tank thing was for CRD injection pumps due to their extreme pressures and tight tolerances.

I did not think there was any benefit for non CRD diesels.

Garry

[Ean Austral]

Can I ask why you do that? And how come two tanks, are you talking about long range tanks? George


Yes I have a long range tank as well as the normal tank.




Cheers Ean

[Ean Austral]

I thought the 2 stroke in the tank thing was for CRD injection pumps due to their extreme pressures and tight tolerances.

I did not think there was any benefit for non CRD diesels.

Garry


I read a post on the uk site about a bloke who had a TD5 that he added 2 stroke to from brand new , and when he stripped it down it was like new inside, I was amazed at how clean the piston crowns were. Sure there could have been other reasons for it, but when you see pics of a engine that never had 2 stroke mixed with fuel was nothing like his engine.


Also the guy who had the D3 and posted the "how to " change the oil pump housing show pics of how clean his engine looks having added 2 stroke from new.


Cant see it doing any harm other than a few $$ out of the wallet.


Cheers Ean

[lyonsy]

when i was working for cat every service we would add around 1L normal engine oil to each tank on the trucks it was basicly to add a bit more lube for the injectors.
the oil don't have to be 2 stroke oil regular engine oil will work just as well in diesel

[ugu80]

The recommended ratio is 200:1.

[101RRS]

when i was working for cat every service we would add around 1L normal engine oil to each tank on the trucks it was basicly to add a bit more lube for the injectors.
the oil don't have to be 2 stroke oil regular engine oil will work just as well in diesel

Might be Ok in a Cat but don't put engine oil in the fuel or a CRD engined car/4wd- you will have issues - has been tried overseas. Likewise do not use synthetic 2 stroke as it tends not to mix as well with the diesel.

It is the old style mineral 2 stroke that does the trick.

Garry

[joel0407]

do not use synthetic 2 stroke as it tends not to mix as well with the diesel.


I dont think it's the mixing as much as the temperature that it burns (or needs to burn).

I use Castrol 2T and I think from memory it says on the back of the TTS 2T (synthetic) "not recommended for air cooled engines"

I'm guessing that an air cooled motor could run pretty hot when not moving much and possibly burn the oil. I'm thinking the idea of 2 stroke oil is to not burn but lubricate.

Happy Days.

[lyonsy]

for common rail I wouldn't put anything other then diesel
for pump engines and unit injectors a bit of oil will give them a bit of a boost

[rick130]

Might be Ok in a Cat but don't put engine oil in the fuel or a CRD engined car/4wd- you will have issues - has been tried overseas. Likewise do not use synthetic 2 stroke as it tends not to mix as well with the diesel.

It is the old style mineral 2 stroke that does the trick.

Garry

I'll call foul on the syn two stroke Gary as Redlines excellent RL2 diesel additive uses an ashless POE lubricant in its formulation.

It's the best diesel additive I've tested in terms of used oil analysis.

[rick130]

I dont think it's the mixing as much as the temperature that it burns (or needs to burn).

I use Castrol 2T and I think from memory it says on the back of the TTS 2T (synthetic) "not recommended for air cooled engines"

I'm guessing that an air cooled motor could run pretty hot when not moving much and possibly burn the oil. I'm thinking the idea of 2 stroke oil is to not burn but lubricate.

Happy Days.

TTS is fine in an air cooled two stroke, it was the oil of choice back in the day in Yamaha KT100J Kart engines and is used often in chain saws.

I can't abide it in saw use as it stings and burns the eyes, it really is acrid, but engines like it.

[101RRS]

I'll call foul on the syn two stroke Gary as Redlines excellent RL2 diesel additive uses an ashless POE lubricant in its formulation.

It's the best diesel additive I've tested in terms of used oil analysis.

I am only repeating the information contained in other forums (I have never tested the diesel to confirm) where it is claimed that synthetic does not mix well with diesel and is not recommended.

Most recommendations on the topic are for mineral oil - 2TT but I have never seem any real proof published as to its benefits - plenty of testimonials.

Many people claim quieter running, better fuel consumption, more power, less smoke - sounds a bit like a Hiclone :(. I have been using it for nearly two years and I have not found any of the above - I use it simply because it is cheap and may (not will) provide a little bit of extra lubrication to the injection pump and might help reduce damage if there is some fuel contamination - but then it might not.

Garry

[ugu80]

Here is an actual laboratory test by people who know what they're doing comparing fuel additives, two stroke oil being one (rated 7th overall). Might be helpful reading if you can't get to sleep! Interesting that they state, in regard to 2 stroke oil, "may damage 2007 or newer systems".
http://www.natbiogroup.com/docs/education/lubricity%20additive%20study%20results.pdf

[rick130]

Here is an actual laboratory test by people who know what they're doing comparing fuel additives, two stroke oil being one (rated 7th overall). Might be helpful reading if you can't get to sleep! Interesting that they state, in regard to 2 stroke oil, "may damage 2007 or newer systems".
http://www.natbiogroup.com/docs/education/lubricity%20additive%20study%20results.pdf

Shame the Redline ones weren't tested, IIRC they have Cummins approval.