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PhilipA
20th March 2014, 07:42 PM
I did a complete hose change and coolant change a coupleof months ago with red coolant.

I recall AFAIR Tombie commenting that the red coolant leaks everywhere and I had to go around all the hoses and refit all the spring tension clips that I had replaced with screw clamps as the damn hoses leaked EVERYWHERE..

I don't lose very much at all but it worries me WHERE it is leaking.

It is leaking AFAIK out of the ends of a couple of hoses and seems to be wicking down the reinforcing cords in 2 hoses, the one from the water pump down to the crossover pipe to the thermostat, and one of the small bypass hoses . Both hoses have bright red spots where the cords emerge on the end.
I would have thought that the hoses inner layer should not allow this unless damaged.
Should I worry replace or just be happy don't worry?
Regards Philip A

Disco W.A
20th March 2014, 08:26 PM
Where did you buy your hoses from? I brought a set from Ebay in 2010 and within the next 12 months I had to replace them all, I only buy my coolant hoses from the local dealer now.


Roger

ScotsD2
20th March 2014, 09:12 PM
How good is your tank cap it's what controls the coolant
pressure
New genuine is best option

Tombie
20th March 2014, 09:19 PM
Don't buy pattern parts only buy genuine....

schuy1
20th March 2014, 09:36 PM
Regardless of brand of hoses there is no way coolant of ANY type, red, green, blue or purple :o should leak or wick from new hoses! If they are doing that there is a serious flaw in their construction and I would not trust them at all! Beat a path to the door of where you got them or as Tombie said , get genuine 1's.
Cheers Scott

PhilipA
21st March 2014, 07:42 AM
All the hoses were genuine bought from Gary at CLR.

They all had genuine stickers on them.

I will get some more GRRRRR.
Regards Philip A

Pedro_The_Swift
21st March 2014, 08:07 AM
after the rebuild mine did the same Phillip,, went back to BOR and they replaced the silly factory clamps with normal ones,,
still seeping out. all new hoses.:(

schuy1
21st March 2014, 08:11 AM
All the hoses were genuine bought from Gary at CLR.

They all had genuine stickers on them.

I will get some more GRRRRR.
Regards Philip A


Whoops! :o That is not good! Sorry we were assuming after market hoses;)
That seems a worry given Pedro says his are doing the same:(
Cheers Scott

Disco W.A
21st March 2014, 09:47 AM
All the hoses were genuine bought from Gary at CLR.

They all had genuine stickers on them.

I will get some more GRRRRR.
Regards Philip A




I cant remember who was my supplier on Ebay but that was the same experience I had, all had genuine labels but failed early, my thought is that they may have been old stock and passed their use by date.

kelvo
21st March 2014, 08:17 PM
If it makes you feel any better my new genuine Land Rover pump to coolant rail hose (PEH101660) is also showing signs of wicking :(

lewy
23rd March 2014, 08:21 PM
welcome to the pink coolant world,mine do the same.

joel0407
23rd March 2014, 08:56 PM
+1

Mine do as well. Not so bad with proper hose clamps though. Bunnings sell 2 different types the ones in the Garden section then stainless ones in the plumbing section. The stainless ones come in 2 grades. Marine and something else. The something else, cheaper than marine grade seem pretty good to me.

Mine also leaks from the drain plug. I have replaces the seal/washer, used thread tap, used locktite thread sealant. Nothing has worked yet.

Get a low water alarm, mount it just below the centre seam in the header tank and just top it up every 2 - 3 months. The alarm will go off from cornering first so you'll get plenty of early warning.

Happy Days.

PhilipA
23rd March 2014, 09:18 PM
I marked the header tank and it is only losing about 1-1.5MM per month, although that might pick up when I am driving all the time.

I think it is a case of watch and top up if necessary. I think a lot of the oozing was from the time I towed the camper to Cabramurra on a 30+ day.
there is only one spot with a drop of wet coolant and that is below the water pump from the hose that goes across to the thermostat. The water pump vent is dry.
I may buy a new one of those and it is Land Rover original.
Regards Philip A

joel0407
23rd March 2014, 09:26 PM
I think it is a case of watch


Get an alarm.

The Disco gauge is known to not react until the motor is hot enough to melt.:eek:

It's too late once the water is gone.

Happy Days.

schuy1
23rd March 2014, 09:49 PM
Umm, boys, leaking around a fitting or from a hose clamped end is a different kettle of fish to the coolant weeping / wicking from the ends of a hose core. For it to do that is not a result of failure of the clamp or the properties of the coolant. It is a sign of actual hose failure, specifically the hose lining that is in contact with the coolant.
Once that liner fails then the coolant and heat will commence to break down the reinforcement fibers and the outer rubber layer. It is then a short dash to a blown hose- overheating- blown motor-$ !!!!
For a hose to do that means A- an old perished hose or B- a poorly manufactured hose

Cheers Scott

joel0407
23rd March 2014, 11:49 PM
I'm going to have a stab in the dark here and guess that the red coolant just stains the cotton that hangs out the end of the pipe. I doubt it actually weeps out the thread.

Happy Days.

schuy1
24th March 2014, 06:26 AM
Maybe thats the case. If so alls good . I admit it is hard to make an informed decision when you can not see the item in the flesh so to speak. But the desription does fit hose failure maybe. Mine does not leak anywhere around hose fittings though, even the 1s I have replaced.
Cheers Scott