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roverrescue
20th March 2014, 11:10 PM
Observe.
Swivel Recovery Eye Pin - 4wheeln (http://www.4wheeln.co.uk/shop2/product.php?id_product=406)
Discuss.
Especially in light of simplicity of machining. Obviosuly choice of approriate alloy is important but...
Steve
gavinwibrow
21st March 2014, 12:06 AM
I like, but my poor old 20th century brain still has an issue with the lack of surface area of the backing plate. Probably illogical, but?
Tank
21st March 2014, 10:55 AM
If I bought one of these I would do away with the circlip and fit it through a piece of 1/2" thick plate (with as big an area as possible that will fit in the back of your bulbar) and either remove it from the bar (swivel pin that is) or leave a shackle connected so as it won't fall out.
Wouldn't be hard to make one without the circlip groove, Regards Frank.
Loubrey
24th March 2014, 06:51 PM
I agree with Tank's suggestion. Spread the load with an insert plate between the bullbar and the flange and keep the shackle permanently attached. I used a couple of large O rings rolled over the shaft of the pin to prevent rattling and vibration caused by the absence of the circlip.
Cheers,
Lou
Blknight.aus
24th March 2014, 07:22 PM
why bother?
it would only work on the vehicle it was fitted to
if you were worried about angles on the gear youd just put in a siwivel hook or swivel link then pull from that.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/420.jpg
or
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/421.jpg
or
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/422.jpg
or
http://img.nauticexpo.com/images_ne/photo-g/sailboat-swivels-shackle-eye-32172-382811.jpg
and generally they can be easily moved from vehicle to vehicle as the recovery required (except the third one but one of them bolted onto a flat plate on a reece hitch.
mools
24th March 2014, 07:30 PM
I got two of these, well the same design anyway, a while back but have not fitted them. Like Gavin my brain struggles with the lack of surface area to spread the load and also the thinness of the material to be mounted on if the circlip is used (my measurement max 4.32 mm).
By my reckoning my ARB steel bar is made from 4.2 mm steel plate up front. Whilst this has proved great for knocking over roos I'm not sure if I'd be happy to do a full blown snatch off one of those points mounted in it. By my measurements there is only a 7mm difference between the radius of the wide back and narrower front.
Has anyone mounted these on ~4.2mm plate and subjected them to heavy use?
Ian.
Don 130
24th March 2014, 07:43 PM
They say they're certificated, but don't give a rating for a working load or load limit. You don't actually know what they're good for.
isuzutoo-eh
25th March 2014, 08:39 AM
Rovacraft sell an A frame winch bar that uses these recovery points, I had them on my bar before I went to an ARB style bar. The mounting point couldn't have been more than Mools' quoted dimension.
I was involved in a very heavy snatch recovery involving a dead Rangie classic, with my County in the middle daisy chained to a D1 up a series of rock steps. Not ideal if given kinder circumstances and i'll never do it again so no judging please!
However the recovery point did not show any signs of damage after this strenuous use.
Note that the Rovacraft bar had decent bracing all around the recovery point mount, unlike a typical ARB bar with flat frontal area.
KarlB
25th March 2014, 09:05 AM
They say they're certificated, but don't give a rating for a working load or load limit. You don't actually know what they're good for.
What would be certified is the 'strength' of the recovery device, not its attachment. It would still be certified even if it was attached to a baked bean can!
Cheers
KarlB
:)
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