Working rig attached to s1, what is it?

[philry]

This is up and a mate of a mates farm in country vic, ive been told about these landys but have never got up to see them, ive been sent a few pics and a couple look very interesting, firstly the series 1, I would assume its some sort of retrofitted farm equipment, possibly watering system?
Just wondering if anyone else has any more idea?

Secondone isn't a landrover, it looks like an old jeep, could anyone shed any light on this one? model and approximate year.

There's a couple of 2a/3s as well but nothing out of the ordinary on those!

Thanks in advance!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Only idea about the rig would be that it is a weed spray unit, that is of course if the two truss units fold out. It does seem to have the pipework and spray heads. However without seeing the rear of the vehicle it's hard to tell if the pumps were front or rear PTO powered or electric. There would have been a tank on the rear tray. There are also likely spray heads on the underside of the front bumper.

The yellow/black vehicle is an Austin Gipsy going by the height of the bumper it's one of the early torsion bar suspension ones. Late 1950's to early 1960s. Tha last of the Gipsies had leaf springs and production ended in 1968 when BMC merged with British Leyland and Gipsy lost out to Land Rover for continuation.

The S1 would look something like this when operating.

[Alex 110]

First one looks like a front-mounted folding boomspray. I've seen them mounted on the rear before, front is much less common due to spray drift affecting the driver.
Alex

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[philry]

Thanks guys, after reading up on the gipsies it looks like they are pretty rare, something that could be worth picking up if the price was right? Im guessing you would have to watch for the same sort of rust as a series? chassis firewall etc.

I will try and get up there in the next few weeks to have a better look at the series 1 and take some pics of the rear/internal workings of the fitting.

Im pretty sure hes interested in selling most of those vehicles as aparently hes moved them to the front of his property so a couple of them might be worth a look in at the right price!

[chazza]

Im guessing you would have to watch for the same sort of rust as a series? chassis firewall etc.



A friend of mine had two Gypsies - one was two-wheel-drive (I think) and the other 4WD.

I can remember; however; that the bodies had a lot of steel in them - if not completely steel - and that his two were so rusty they wouldn't have been worth fixing then (1982).

Don't expect them to be as good as a Rover body-wise and I think they might be spot-welded together, and therefore harder to strip,

Cheers Charlie

[digger]

the series 1 is a boomspray unit, obviously the booms are folded.
there is a pump (either PTO or maybe stand alone petrol) mounted in front of the grille (obviously extended forward to hold it all!) what did it spray and how slow would it be with tanks loaded?? (i assume there are tanks on rear..could be a trailer I spose)

The other I think is an austin gypsey, relative of the champ! They arent super common ! and they have a steel body so rust is usually a problem with most Ive seen... Not sure if the gypsey has a roller motor?

That series 1 would be a classic farm vehicle .. (but wear your air mask and goggles!)

*** EDIT - shouldve refreshed before posting and seen all the other posts!! I dont think anything I said is new after all those... and Dianas piccie beats my explaination hands down!! sorry***

**EDIT 2-- and I obviously spelt Gypsy wrong :( **

great looking cars though.

[chazza]

[SIZE="3"] Not sure if the gypsey has a roller motor?



From what I remember the engine was an Austin/Morris 4 cylinder engine; quite possibly the B-series engine as found in the MGB etc., or the rather similar looking 4 cyl. truck engine which had a much longer stroke.

In any cae it wasn't a Rover, so not worth worrying about :D

Cheers Charlie

[JDNSW]

Boomspray definitely as indicated.

The Gipsy had an Austin engine, pretty sure it was the same engine as the A70, A90, Healey(4), MGA etc.

Edit. Confirmed engine type. First appeared in light trucks in WW2, and bears a suspiciously close resemblance to a mirror image copy of the Chevrolet engine from the 1920s, although no licence was sought!

The body is all steel, rusts really readily, and as a result restorable ones are very rare. They were never anywhere as common as Landrovers, and were only marketed for about ten years (about 20,000 produced but sales here pretty slow). My memory says the body was very crude compared to the contemporary Landrover. They can be considered as being at least partly the spur to the change from Series 1 to 2. Rover was just about to introduce the Series 2, but delayed until the Gipsy appeared to see whether this new competition meant they would need to up their game.

John

[gromit]

Here is an article comparing the Gipsy with the Series II.
Austin Gipsy verses Land Rover (http://www.austingipsy.net/gipsy%20verses%20landrover/gipsyvsland.htm)

Here is a motor for sale, wonder what happened to the rest of the vehicle ?
Austin Gypsy Motor & GearBox | Engine, Engine Parts & Transmission | Gumtree Australia Yarra Ranges - Healesville | 1040675458 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/healesville/engine-engine-parts-transmission/austin-gypsy-motor-gearbox/1040675458)


Colin

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Cant you just hear the advertising hacks working out how to hype their Austin vehicle. The basis of the comparison is the 1958 88" SII which still had the 2 litre spread bore engine, however at the date of the article both the 88" and 109" Land Rovers had the 2 1/4 litre engines at 72 hp over the Austin 65 hp which is supposedly the advantage of the Gipsy over the SII.

[wrinklearthur]

How closely related was the South African Land Rover's six cylinder BMC engine to that 4 cylinder Gipsy engine?
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[JDNSW]

How closely related was the South African Land Rover's six cylinder BMC engine to that 4 cylinder Gipsy engine?
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Unless I am mistaken, about as closely as, say, the 2 litre Series 1 engine to the Td5.

The Gipsy engine was a pushrod Austin engine dating from the 1940s, the S.A. six fitted to Landrovers was an OHC six cylinder version of the engine that first appeared as the BMC-E Series in 1969, familiar here in the Morris 1500 and Marina. The six was pioneered here in the Austin Kimberley/Tasman, and was fitted in S.Africa to the Rover SD-1 and Landrover 3S.

The first was a truck engine designed by Austin before any mergers with other companies, the second was designed at least twenty years later by the BMC conglomerate, probably mostly by Morris designers and with any heritage being from Morris not Austin, and designed as a versatile engine for transverse engined vehicles with four or six cylinders. It was siamesed to reduce length, and seems to have had a mixed reception, although my family experience with the four in a couple of vehicles says it was a reliable and trouble free, durable engine.

John