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Lionelgee
3rd April 2014, 01:26 PM
Hello SLOw Members,

Just wondering what is the correct Haute couture regarding styles of Pith Helmet for SLOw events?

To my surprise there is more than one style!!!

It seems that Col Coleman dons the Safari-style pith helmet; while there is also a British Colonial Jungle Safari style.

One would not want to look out of place at an event would one, what-oh! :)

Kind Regards
Lionel

S3ute
3rd April 2014, 05:09 PM
Lionel,

Hello from Brisbane and timely you should ask - I am packing the old Melville and Moons for Monday.

Anyway, I hope you are not taking the pith out of our helmets!

We take ceremonial protocol seriously in SLOW.

Note sure about the headwear, but I try to wear trousers at least to formal occasions.

Not sure if that helps.

Cheers,

Neil

AndyG
3rd April 2014, 05:14 PM
What no long white socks, sandals, Bombay bloomers :o:p

S3ute
3rd April 2014, 06:10 PM
What no long white socks, sandals, Bombay bloomers :o:p

Hello again from Brisbane and that fashion hint is well received - although edges on the worst fears of Mrs S3ute in general and Ms S3 ute in particular.

But to topic - at the end of the day the question of uniform and standards is up to the collective mandate of the SLOW community. I am but one source of opinion.

Nevertheless, the last time I ventured past a reputable hatters (a different beast to the usual mad hatters I generally hang about with) I couldn't but help notice the ingress of product from the land of the former enemy - Vietnam.

Now call me a Brandis if you will, but I frankly would hate to see a SLOW outing degenerate into a parody of a Viet Cong May Day parade. Too bad Charlie for your jungle green effort the rule should be Imperial khaki with pugaree.

But, as I said, only one small voice for tradition there.

Cheers,

Neil
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Lionelgee
3rd April 2014, 07:36 PM
Hello S3Ute,

No I am not taking the pith :). I have been doing some research as I ease back into the saddle of PhD-land after taking a couple of weeks off.

It turns out that there is a wide assortment of pith helmets and some, as you suggest have dubious backgrounds - shock horror that all is not what it seems!

What style is the most common variety at the moment? There are these two styles: Photograph 1 is a British Colonial Jungle Safari Khaki Pith and Photograph 2 is a Safari Pith Khaki Deluxe Desert Explorer Hunter Helmet

There are other hats described as "Livingstone Pith Helmet" as worn by Doctor David Livingstone during his expeditions into the dark continent.Made of genuine cork pith, covered with 100% cotton.

Colours available are: Forest, Khaki, Olive, or Stone.

Then there are the fancy dress market pith hats that are really taking the pith out of the helmets.

So which style and colour is the most in keeping with SLOw etiquette? See S3 Ute I was being above board! Almost serious too.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Scallops
3rd April 2014, 08:30 PM
I use and own both the 1890's British tall, and the mid twentieth century Wolsley style depending on vehicle headroom and my current state of delusion. Both in the sand colour.

But any flavour of eccentricty is actively encouraged. Bowlers, Top hats, Bombay bloomers, grey lab coats, pebble rim glasses, lederhosen, kilts - anything goes.

In this club, we tolerate and actually encourage people with ideas that are different. It's virtual anarchy.

MattyGM
3rd April 2014, 08:37 PM
" .... I couldn't but help notice the ingress of product from the land of the former enemy - Vietnam.

Now call me a Brandis if you will, but I frankly would hate to see a SLOW outing degenerate into a parody of a Viet Cong May Day parade. Too bad Charlie for your jungle green effort the rule should be Imperial khaki with pugaree.

But, as I said, only one small voice for tradition there.

Cheers,

Neil"

Just as an aside, would Malaya conflict dress be deemed appropriate? (not sure if one could find an Owen gun nowadays though)

Scallops
3rd April 2014, 08:58 PM
Mine is as used by the finest British officers such as the famous explorer, Captain Walter Snetterten as seen and worn on the great "Cross the Andes by Frog" expedition of the late 1890's. Pure British all the way.

The Wolsley in sand colour is also perfectly acceptable and doesn't blow off in a open top 86!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/1217.jpg

Lionelgee
3rd April 2014, 10:06 PM
Mine is as used by the finest British officers such as the famous explorer, Captain Walter Snetterten as seen and worn on the great "Cross the Andes by Frog" expedition of the late 1890's. Pure British all the way.

The Wolsley in sand colour is perfectly acceptable and doesn't blow off in a open top 86!




Hello Scallops,

In keeping with your mention of a British Officer's style I found these sites ... Military Collection of Peter Suciu (http://www.nyc-techwriters.com/militaria/british_helmets2.htm) & http://www.militarytrader.com/military-trader-news/pith_helmets_of_the_british_empire

Kind Regards
Lionel

Scallops
3rd April 2014, 10:44 PM
Hello Scallops,

In keeping with your mention of a British Officer's style I found these sites ... Military Collection of Peter Suciu (http://www.nyc-techwriters.com/militaria/british_helmets2.htm) & Pith Helmets of the British Empire | Military Trader (http://www.militarytrader.com/military-trader-news/pith_helmets_of_the_british_empire)

Kind Regards
Lionel

Very fine examples. Inc. sports a similar white number on formal club occasions, such as any club happy hour. :p

BTW - all pith helmets, even from the day, were sourced from materials derived from greater Asia/India. It's where the Pith plant suitable for such headwear actually grows. Many were made in the British ran parts theirin.

S3ute
3rd April 2014, 10:48 PM
Hello again (chaps) from Brisbane.

Who says we don't give a stuff about protocol or dress sense (well actually Mrs S3ute and Ms S3ute I suppose, but that's beside the point)?

It is encouraging that we rejoice in our right to free speech - I think this was the point of the Brandis F-I-M exercise. But I still disagree with the concept of freestyle in the old pith selection. Standards and all - Stanley Baker would have looked like a complete goose in Zulu if he had turned up on the day wearing a fedora - point made.

But, I welcome an eclectic approach to clubmanship and attire - personally don't have a helmet per se but prefer to wander the veld in a collapsible japara jungle hat. Now, admittedly, this looks for all the world like a buffalo turd, but it has functionality on its side. And when staring down old J-Bo at close range it is poise rather than style that usually wins the day.

Then again, SLOW is a condominium of taste, style and purpose - so let the mob decide.

Cheers,

Neil

The ho har's
3rd April 2014, 11:23 PM
Hello again (chaps) from Brisbane.

Who says we don't give a stuff about protocol or dress sense (well actually Mrs S3ute and Ms S3ute I suppose, but that's beside the point)?

It is encouraging that we rejoice in our right to free speech - I think this was the point of the Brandis F-I-M exercise. But I still disagree with the concept of freestyle in the old pith selection. Standards and all - Stanley Baker would have looked like a complete goose in Zulu if he had turned up on the day wearing a fedora - point made.

But, I welcome an eclectic approach to clubmanship and attire - personally don't have a helmet per se but prefer to wander the veld in a collapsible japara jungle hat. Now, admittedly, this looks for all the world like a buffalo turd, but it has functionality on its side. And when staring down old J-Bo at close range it is poise rather than style that usually wins the day.

Then again, SLOW is a condominium of taste, style and purpose - so let the mob decide.

Cheers,

Neil

Good evening Neil,

Don't forget chappets ;):p

I have a pith from Vietnam, should I say from one the the mass produced vendors, anyway my daughter bought it back for me and I like it :) It is green and I think I am the only female game enough to wear one in SLOw :angel:

As scallops has stated anything goes........

Wonder what Mr hh will look in white socks, sandals and Bombay bloomers :angel::wasntme:

Mrs hh:angel:

Scallops
4th April 2014, 12:26 AM
Saxxy. You Minx. :wasntme:

(Mr HH?????? - oh dear......really, really :wasntme:)

:whistling:

S3ute
4th April 2014, 07:19 AM
Good evening Neil,

Don't forget chappets ;):p



Wonder what Mr hh will look in white socks, sandals and Bombay bloomers :angel::wasntme:

Mrs hh:angel:

Hello again.

Point taken on gender equity - harrumph!

Re the above mentioned kit. I should think he would look quite the dashing dandy in that sort of get up - appropriately cool for Coolah or Coolatai?

Cheers,

Neil

Killer
4th April 2014, 07:38 AM
Good evening Neil,


Wonder what Mr hh will look in white socks, sandals and Bombay bloomers :angel::wasntme:

Mrs hh:angel:

I don't know, but would love to find out.:D:D
As stated, it is the freedom to not have to comply with dress regulations that makes us a great club. Why, someone even once turned up to a Black Tie Dinner wearing an Hawaiian shirt.:angel:

Cheers, Mick.

S3ute
4th April 2014, 09:41 AM
Hello again from Brisbane.

If Empire's your thing and you sometimes wonder how come half the world was historically depicted in red on older atlases, you might like to read the likes of Victoria's Soldiers and Running the Show.

Getting it red and keeping it that way for a couple of centuries was largely the result of, but not exclusively, having cheap cannon fodder in the form of the various highland regiments led by warrior generals of the likes of (General Sir Robert) Fighting Bob Campbell hero of Balaclava, Cawnpore and Lucknow.

Running it fell to the oddest collection of misfits, buccaneers, opportunists, madmen, eccentrics and the odd honest and extremely capable administator.

All good Boys (and Girls) Own stuff.

Back to packing - where's that damn smoking jacket and crate of frogs....

Cheers,

Neil

Rowan
6th May 2014, 04:10 PM
76709 just making sure that noddy and I conform to club rules!

pop058
6th May 2014, 04:30 PM
76709 just making sure that noddy and I conform to club rules!

Hell Yeah :):)

Killer
7th May 2014, 06:13 AM
76709 just making sure that noddy and I conform to club rules!

Rowan, you must have long arms and legs, to be able to drive from that position.:o:D

Cheers, Mick.