Future Discovery Teaser

[rufusking]

Teaser released for concept of future Discovery.

Land Rover Discovery Vision concept (2014) first teaser of Disco (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Land-Rover-Discovery-Vision-concept-2014-first-teaser-of-Discos-future/?utm_campaign=040314&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Car&utm_content=SmallContentBox1)

[Jimlr]

Good spot. Didn't get much of an idea from that, other than the interior being right up to date and in line with rrs etc look and feel.

Next update 16th April - Concept reveal at the New York motor show.

[rar110]

the promo is a bit Darth Vaderish.

I've just come to like the current shape.

[Tombie]

So if the new Disco is all curvy and whatnot can all the Discovery owners now join the Defender owners in complaining they like the slab sided D3/D4 better :wasntme:

[Jimlr]

I keep reading stuff on this....
I'd say quite likely to get the 9speed, and active driveline' (which swaps between 2wd and 4wd) from this years époque. Google it - looks like the next gen off road technology is here...so no transfer case and no actual rear diff...interesting stuff.

[SBD4]

I keep reading stuff on this....
I'd say quite likely to get the 9speed, and active driveline' (which swaps between 2wd and 4wd) from this years époque. Google it - looks like the next gen off road technology is here...so no transfer case and no actual rear diff...interesting stuff.


yep, interesting. Based on this all latest evoques effectively will have an ediff - all for it on the disco:

GKN Driveline helps the 2014 Range Rover Evoque achieve greater agility with superior fuel economy - GKN PLC (http://www.gkn.com/media/News/Pages/GKN-Driveline-helps-the-2014-Range-Rover-Evoque-achieve-greater-agility-with-superior-fuel-economy.aspx)

2014 Range Rover Evoque - Active Driveline - YouTube


Still want low range though.

[jonesy63]

Plus they will have 22" bling wheels standard... yippeee! (Not!)

[SBD4]

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/q71/s720x720/1540474_423128941156086_527531261_o.jpg

[scarry]

Plus they will have 22" bling wheels standard... yippeee! (Not!)

Didn't you hear?
They are keeping those for the new Defender....:D:(

[SBD4]

Land Rover Discovery Vision Concept Transparent Bonnet - YouTube

[Meken]

It says virtual prototype - does that mean it's computer simulated and not a real prototype ?

[Marmoset]

A couple more graphics in here, also has a few links to landrover related articles on the page.

Land Rover's new Discovery channel - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/motoring/30188/land-rovers-new-discovery-channel.html)

[MR LR]

Anything would be an improvement from the ugly bread box that hit the showrooms in '05 :p :wasntme:

[camel_landy]

Land Rover Discovery Vision Concept Transparent Bonnet - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw5SWFRfcoY)

Filmed on our playground at Eastnor... ;)

M

[CSBrisie]

I'm reading on line that this Disco design (New York Motor Show release next week) is likley to be the Discovery Sport (ie Freelander replacement) and we wont see the Disco 5 design until mid 2015?

[bbyer]

I am not certain that I am looking forward to seeing the D5. Somehow I think the frame will be missing; re the engine, I kind of prefer displacement over multiple turbos.

It also makes me feel better that the whatever being unveiled in New York is some sort of "Sport" as that silhouette reminds of a hunchback Evoque. Maybe it will devolve per the previous "Defender" unveiling.

One kind of gets the feeling that the future is all about imagining the past, (heritage and all), but to actually build a vehicle that might get wet and dirty, well that is the past - hope not.

The direction just even the talk of dropping the Defender suggests, concerns me.

At the same time, I accept that it was probably the huge acceptance of the RR Sport that has kept the D3/D4 production line going for what now is it, going on ten years - pretty good I would say.

I just have trouble envisioning a strong off road capable vehicle without a frame and having 22" wheels - maybe I am getting old.

[rufusking]

I'll be in the same camp bbyer. The D4 is a great vehicle but it wasn't exactly what I was after but it was the closest thing. The direction LR are taking the Discovery is away from what I like / want in a 4WD. I might be a candidate for the next gen Defender if it eventuates.

I lived for a number of years in Colorado and loved the design of the Honda Element. For those who are unfamiliar with it it is a re-bodied CRV with vinyl floors, water resistant seats and suicide second row doors. It was too small for my needs so finished up with a Honda Pilot.

Manufacturer are making it difficult to mechanically up spec a vehicle without up specing the interior.

I've had the D4 3 years and will probable keep it for 2 more ( end of the extended warranty), hopefully there's something on the market that ticks all my boxes by then.

[DI5CO]

Can't believe we haven't seen a D5 spy shot yet! (Excluding Freelander replacement)
Not sure if I like the luxo way it's supposed to be going as we have the RR brand for that. Too many luxury models. It would be great if it could come in at the same price as the D4 with all the off rd creds.
I hope my D2 lasts another year without any major issues otherwise it may be a good time to get a runout D4.

[BMKal]

Article here on the new Freelander replacement - which is slated to be a "version" of the Discovery.

2015 Land Rover LR2 - Photo #1 (http://www.autoevolution.com/news-g-image/spyshots-2015-land-rover-lr2-is-now-a-baby-lr4/176876.html#sjmp)

[Marmoset]

My understandig is that we're going to see a whole family of discoveries to replace the one model we have now. I recall reading a Gerry McGovern Interview (or may have been the MD?) stating that the disco will stand for versatility, so I don't see it turning into a luxury brand. We'll get a freelander replacement in it along with something that will cope with some serious 4wd terrain, the main thing that links them will probably be the styling and the market sector.

Think Evoque/RRS/FFRR with the corresponding budget jumps and you'll probably get a disco to suit your needs.

I wouldn't be suprised if it shared some hardware with the next Defender.

Edit: Here we go, hot off the press, found it whilst looking for the above interview

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-york-motor-show/expanded-land-rover-discovery-range-feature-rugged-suv

[bbyer]

I am not certain the bonnet is wide enough for either Discovery or Land Rover lettering to fit. LR 4.5 would fit I suppose.:)

[scarry]

Maybe there will be no Defender again,just a base type model of the next Discovery instead.

[rar110]

I think you are right. The next defender will largely be a re-bodied disco 3/4, a bit like the RRS.

I'm guessing it will have straighter panels robot assembled, electric or rack & pinion steering, independent front & either solid or IRS, air suspension rear or front & rear, maybe two motor options with higher spec motor being a TDV6 (after it's dropped from D4 lineup), e-diff as standard and probably no auto option.

Under the bonnet it will be pretty similar to other models.

It will attempt to maintain the traditional look by having flatter wing tops than other models and v-shaped bonnet that doesn't quite cover the front mudguards.

I don't see a 130 continuing unless it's something like an Amorak.

[bbyer]

I think you are right. The next defender will largely be a re-bodied disco 3/4, a bit like the RRS. I don't see a 130 continuing unless it's something like an Amorak. I tend to agree with you that is what LR should be doing.

I still see a lot of Ford influence in LR products so the thinking should still be there. The Ford F-150 shows up as a Lincoln MK Truck in high end livery; as a Raptor for real mud work, and as a work truck for the rest of us. The cab can have 2 or 4 doors; the tray comes in about 3 different lengths, and the 2 door in regular and extended cab styles. Interiors range from the King Ranch leather specials which I think the FFRR learns from down to the rubber floor mat versions.

The F-150 then evolves into an F-250 or 350 and the game starts again but with a heavier frame and drive train etc.

Re body shape, I would prefer that LR copy either Jeep, (or itself), and stay with a sort of square type body style and leave the rounded corners styling to the Far East bunch.

[lpj]

This just in.

New Land Rover Discovery previewed (http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/new-land-rover-discovery-previewed-20140415-36oh1.html)

Thanks goodness they are keeping low range.

"The vision concept also boasts hill descent control, wet grass traction control, low and high range transfer cases, low speed steering assist and wade aid, which anticipates the depth of upcoming water crossings."

[JayBee75]

:toilet:
I think i just threw up in my mouth. looks like I will be holding onto the D4 longer than planned.

It looks just like any other 4wd out there, it well as may be a mitsubishi or a territory. The one thing that seperated the disco was it's uniqueness. Bringing it in line with the rest of the LR family as well as mainstreaming the design I think will not work. I hope the final product changes, the front I can deal with , the rear doors back to the rear boot is awful.:mad:

[~Rich~]

I don't mind it, mind you it's only a concept vehicle not the production vehicle.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/684.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/VSK5/media/discovery_600i-600x400_zps11498260.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/685.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/VSK5/media/Front_zps9cb9390f.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/686.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/VSK5/media/Rear_zpseff4f900.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/687.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/VSK5/media/Open_zps9e282d9c.jpg.html)

[bbyer]

No worry, I think the guys who dreamed up above will after the New York show, will be following the same career path as the guys who created that concept Defender.

Yes, Lincoln back in the sixties, (1961), did build a 4 door with suicide doors - maybe we can blame Ford styling for this, but probably more likely some FJ escapees from some island "rest" home.

Also I note the steering wheel is on the wrong side.

[nat_89]

I don't mind it, mind you it's only a concept vehicle not the production vehicle.


I quite like it to looks awesome can't wait to see it when it's properly released!!

[lpj]

[QUOTE=JayBee75;2126682]:toilet:
I think i just threw up in my mouth. looks like I will be holding onto the D4 longer than planned.

I'm not too bothered by the look. I thought the D3 was rather ugly when it came out but it has really grown on me, as has the D4.

[Marmoset]

As said above, it's just a concept. Landrover seem to have been very good at using the public as a sounding board over the years (think LRX and Original RRS - the got a good reaction and went into production, the new defender not so) rather than used a closed clinic for selected customers. It'll probably change a lot more - I think the front needs to be a bit less RR and give the Discovery it's own face though.

[DI5CO]

This is from their email out!
I quite like it, as long as you can fit a bull bar!:p
Obviously they will tone it down a bit and the interior, but I don't think the outside will change a lot.

2014 SUV - New Age of Discovery - Land Rover Discovery | The New Age of Discovery | Australia (English) (http://newageofdiscovery.landrover.com/au/home/new-age-of-discovery/video)

[camel_landy]

I think you are right. The next defender will largely be a re-bodied disco 3/4, a bit like the RRS.

I'm guessing it will have straighter panels robot assembled, electric or rack & pinion steering, independent front & either solid or IRS, air suspension rear or front & rear, maybe two motor options with higher spec motor being a TDV6 (after it's dropped from D4 lineup), e-diff as standard and probably no auto option.

Under the bonnet it will be pretty similar to other models.

It will attempt to maintain the traditional look by having flatter wing tops than other models and v-shaped bonnet that doesn't quite cover the front mudguards.

I don't see a 130 continuing unless it's something like an Amorak.
Oooohhh... Yet more speculation. :D

M

[DiscoMick]

The front looks like a RR Sport while the side rear looks like an Isuzu wagon and the rear is a bit like a RAV4.
I don't actually mind it, but I do think it would be a pity if the higher rear roof is lowered so much, as its a Discovery signature.
Is it right there is to be a smaller Discovery to replace the Freelander?
Still nothing firm on a Defender. I get the impression LRs designers are finding it harder to design a Defender than a Discovery.
How can it be so hard? As others have said, design a stripped down workhorse version of the next Discovery and there's your Defender.


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[Celtoid]

I thought Evoque crossed with New RRS....

I don't mind how it looks either but I'm not sure its a Disco anymore. Not even sure that the Compomotive 18's and my butt ugly Oval Alloy roof racks would make it look as 'purposeful' as the current D4 does once adjusted for off-road/camping/touring use.

[Plane Fixer]

Looks like a Holden Captiva from the rear. Personally I think it looks Korean in design; OK for those who like Korean but I do not. I do love the unique style of the D4; it has a sense of purpose about it, with class as well.

[carjunkieanon]

I've had the D4 3 years and will probable keep it for 2 more ( end of the extended warranty), hopefully there's something on the market that ticks all my boxes by then.

I'll happily take it off your hands in two years - so keep it in good nick :)

(won't be able to pay much though :p )

[carjunkieanon]

Butt ugly butt on the Disco 'Vision'.

Looks like a Ssangyong Stavic.

Surely they ought to keep the vertical tail lights and make the stepped roof a little more prominent.

[sniegy]

I absolutely love it. My only wish is for two small items. The rear C pillar maybe straighten it up a little???? & It needs the step in the roof for the family continuation. It shrunk on the D3/4 hopefully it don't shrink any more:p

Not sure if this link will work but has a pic of the New Discovery & Virgin Galactic's Space ship on the USS Intrepid.
Apparently Land Rover & Virgin have teamed up. :D:D
Great stuff.
http://i1.cmail1.com/ei/y/C7/6DF/1D9/csimport/LR9494_AutumnNewsletter_2014_680px_1.154256.jpg

Cheers

[Tombie]

I'm a fan... I like it...

[chuck]

I am hoping that the Freelander replacement maybe "Discovery Sport" comes with a transfer case.

They would be on a winner.

I don't need a car as big as a D4 but want the transfer case & off road ability.

[discotwinturbo]

No high "command" seating. I like the height of the seats in the disco, and if it's going to be like the pic, I won't be buying one the future.

The command position is a must, and is the same in my Touareg.

Other than that....I reckon it looks great.

Brett...

[Celtoid]

I am hoping that the Freelander replacement maybe "Discovery Sport" comes with a transfer case.

They would be on a winner.

I don't need a car as big as a D4 but want the transfer case & off road ability.




It's funny you should say that.....


I recently got a copy of LR International ..... or something like that. Haven't had time to read it but after flicking a few pages there was a very vague blurb on the future of the Discovery and a possibility of the various sizes.... like RR.


I'm now wondering if there is going to be a Discovery line of cars .... in varying sizes e.g. Freelander now becomes Discovery (XXX - mini) and there will still be the big D4.

[TerryO]

As others have said it looks Korean, actually very Korean, the only thing is its such a departure from current Disco's and more of a Soccer mums car that few will want to buy a new current model given the new one is only year away.

Not my cup of tea, please LR lets see the new Defender.

[DiscoMick]

As I understand it Discovery will become a range and the next Freelander will be a smaller Discovery, just as the Evoque is a smaller Rangie.
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[catch-22]

NEW YORK MOTOR SHOW: Land Rover Discovery Concept (http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/large-4x4/land-rover/discovery/new-york-motor-show-land-rover-discovery-concept-42933)

[catch-22]

I don't think the model in this article is a natural progression of the existing model or the model before that, the D2. Looks more new RRS

[rufusking]

I'm hoping its a concept and the real thing is more useable. Remember the Defender concept (DC100 from memory), I doubt that will make production in its displayed form.

A bullbar on the D5 concept would look a bit rude!

[TerryO]

If the new D5 or what ever it will be called is meant to go into production in roughly 12 months time then chances are its not going to change much, whether we like the concept or not.

[rar110]

Oooohhh... Yet more speculation. :D M

It amuses small minds like mine.

[DiscoMick]

I am hoping that the Freelander replacement maybe "Discovery Sport" comes with a transfer case.

They would be on a winner.

I don't need a car as big as a D4 but want the transfer case & off road ability.

I agree. We only need 5 seats and some luggage space. We want a modestly powerful but economical turbo-diesel to tow our camper, a middling spec. level, high and low range, Terrain Response and a good suspension. I don't care if its called Discovery or Defender.
I guess by the time they expand the Disco range they will have recovered the R and D on the platform and engines, so they should be able to keep the cost of the Defender down in 2017.
At the moment I don't see anything in the current LR range which would cause me to replace my old D1, at great expense.

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[giskard]

Land Rover Discovery Concept - First Images (http://www.europeancarweb.com/news/1404_land_rover_discovery_concept/)

This article has a fair amount of detail on the new concept jobbie.

[Meken]

Oh I like it but I'm diss appointed that it's not getting better acceptance as I was hoping everyone would want to upgrade so I could buy a d4 at bargain price ;)
Yes I've read the discovery will be a family of cars with the sport replacing freelander 2 , then a next step kind of low spec d4 then the mother of all D4's as the biggest highest spec.

[bbyer]

Oh I like it but I'm disappointed that it's not getting better acceptance as I was hoping everyone would want to upgrade so I could buy a D4 at bargain price ;) I do not know about Australia, but getting a used 4 or even a used 3 at a bargain price over here is getting difficult. It seems with the improved reliability of the 4's, the used vehicles are holding their value more so than in times past.

As such, while I understand the quote above, I think regardless of acceptance, a bargain priced used 4 might be of the past.

Actually we must all hope these new mini D4.5's are so well accepted in the North American market that LR is encouraged to put real effort into the full load, full sized D5, and better yet, keep the 4 in production for as long as it takes to do the D5 right - could just happen.

[Celtoid]

I do not know about Australia, but getting a used 4 or even a used 3 at a bargain price over here is getting difficult. It seems with the improved reliability of the 4's, the used vehicles are holding their value more so than in times past.

As such, while I understand the quote above, I think regardless of acceptance, a bargain priced used 4 might be of the past.

Actually we must all hope these new mini D4.5's are so well accepted in the North American market that LR is encouraged to put real effort into the full load, full sized D5, and better yet, keep the 4 in production for as long as it takes to do the D5 right - could just happen.


Oh I hope that becomes a global problem .... I'm just about to put my MY10 D4 on the market .... LOL. ;)

[Marmoset]

It looks better in these photos......

New Land Rover Discovery previewed | Autocar (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-york-motor-show/new-land-rover-discovery-previewed?utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=ENews%20Bulletins&utm_source=April%2017,%202014&utm_content=link3_1)

[scarry]

So there is gonna be a "rugged 7 seat off roader" in the range,interesting.
Maybe that will replace the deefer.

And the existing D4 will be replaced with a plusher new model,sounds like it is going up market further?

And the invisable bonnet,should help hitting those cane toads every time....:D

But seriously, do we actually need all this electronic crap?
Most of it isn't really needed,and will only be more gear that may/will play up.

Maybe they should put more effort into increasing reliability,listening to want existing owners want,and reducing servicing costs,running costs,making them easier to work on,etc.
Yer,i know,i am dreaming.....

[SBD4]

It looks better in these photos......

New Land Rover Discovery previewed | Autocar (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-york-motor-show/new-land-rover-discovery-previewed?utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=ENews%20Bulletins&utm_source=April%2017,%202014&utm_content=link3_1)

this was right at the bottom of that article:
Land Rover Discovery Vision Concept revealed - YouTube

[bbyer]

But seriously, do we actually need all this electronic crap?
Most of it isn't really needed, and will only be more gear that may/will play up.
Maybe they should put more effort into increasing reliability,listening to want existing owners want,and reducing servicing costs,running costs,making them easier to work on,etc.
Yes, I know, I am dreaming.....It seems to me most owners and certainly the passengers want reliability, then safety and of course a bit of style and excitement.

The video talks about heritage and that the product is not technology for the sake of technology.
I take that to mean some at Land Rover are aware of what the heritage might really be and that technology may be the problem.

As to what is offered being the solution, that does puzzle me.

[SBD4]

The Land Rover Discovery Vision Concept - YouTube

[SBD4]

Land Rover & Virgin partnership:

Land Rover and Virgin Galactic Partnership | Land Rover USA - YouTube

[SBD4]

Building on the DNA of Discovery: Vision Concept's exterior - YouTube

[SBD4]

the launch event:
Land Rover Discovery Unveiling on the Intrepid in NYC - YouTube

[rar110]

I think they engaged the same marketing people as Apple. I was waiting for Jonny Ives to appear.

[bbyer]

I think they engaged the same marketing people as Apple. I was waiting for Jonny Ives to appear. You are I think more correct in your observation than you may have first thought. The link below is to the Foglizzo Italian Leather website and a Eurocopter EC135 that Foglizzo did up in pink leather.

Where I first heard that Foglizzo brand name was from one of those LR videos above where LR was boasting about the Foglizzo leather interior of the new Discovery 4.5. The EC135 in the website pictures, (if you can take you eyes off the good looking girls), is on a yacht in Monaco - the weather is better, but the idea is the same - expensive surroundings, darkness, eye candy, fancy lights plus exotic food and drinks.

I am wondering who is trying to fool whom?

Foglizzo Award best Custom Leather Aplication (http://www.foglizzo.com/newsletter/2013/september/bcla_foglizzo_2013_eurocopter.html)

[scarry]

There are also articles around saying the rear doors will open the 'normal' way,not as the concept vehicle.

Suppose we will have to wait and see,we know what happened to the DC100,it seemed to vanish.

[bbyer]

The new D4.5 will probably in reality be some version of an existing Euro Ford. Over here, in the mirror I think I am seeing a Freelander or similar small Land Rover and instead when it passes me, it has Ford written on it. I think the true Land Rover design studio still has a Ford logo on the door.

It is too bad those guys in the video were not spending their time trying to design something truly difficult - a reliable capable on road / off road vehicle.

There is a story that the reason Dodge pickups finally succeeded in the market place is that in Detroit, next door to the Chrysler pickup design building, a new plant addition was being constructed. The design guys were fascinated watching real working guys trying to work out of a pickup cab. They discovered the supervisors were using their pickups as offices, lunchrooms, phone rooms, and on occasion, sleeping quarters.

As a result, Dodge was the first to come out with that wide centre flip down armrest that was flat on top so one could set files etc down on it. The designers also discovered laptop computers were in the cabs, hence the need for extra cigarette lighters, coffee cup holders, (not wine), and now 120 VAC receptacles. The two door mini cab evolved into the 4 door Mega cab and then you really could sleep overnight on the site - undesirable, but not that uncommon.

Why LR cannot find space for future dash switches and a hole thru the firewall for extra wires or ...... The reason I believe is that the boffins who design Land Rovers either take the Tube or ride bicycles to work.

They should be required to drive their designs to work each day. Stalled a few times on the M? on the way home or with the wife and crying kids on board, I am confident reliability would dramatically improve. Rather than suicide doors, doors that merely opened a full ninety degrees might seem to make more sense - but none of that would make for good show business - but a business case, I wonder?

[rar110]

The new D4.5 will probably in reality be some version of an existing Euro Ford. Over here, in the mirror I think I am seeing a Freelander or similar small Land Rover and instead when it passes me, it has Ford written on it. I think the true Land Rover design studio still has a Ford logo on the door. It is too bad those guys in the video were not spending their time trying to design something truly difficult - a reliable capable on road / off road vehicle. There is a story that the reason Dodge pickups finally succeeded in the market place is that in Detroit, next door to the Chrysler pickup design building, a new plant addition was being constructed. The design guys were fascinated watching real working guys trying to work out of a pickup cab. They discovered the supervisors were using their pickups as offices, lunchrooms, phone rooms, and on occasion, sleeping quarters. As a result, Dodge was the first to come out with that wide centre flip down armrest that was flat on top so one could set files etc down on it. The designers also discovered laptop computers were in the cabs, hence the need for extra cigarette lighters, coffee cup holders, (not wine), and now 120 VAC receptacles. The two door mini cab evolved into the 4 door Mega cab and then you really could sleep overnight on the site - undesirable, but not that uncommon. Why LR cannot find space for future dash switches and a hole thru the firewall for extra wires or ...... The reason I believe is that the boffins who design Land Rovers either take the Tube or ride bicycles to work. They should be required to drive their designs to work each day. Stalled a few times on the M? on the way home or with the wife and crying kids on board, I am confident reliability would dramatically improve. Rather than suicide doors, doors that merely opened a full ninety degrees might seem to make more sense - but none of that would make for good show business - but a business case, I wonder?

When I first saw it I thought the rear quarter looked like a Territory. Some styling resemblance looking from the front too.

[DI5CO]

Ford haven't been involved with Land Rover since 2008. I doubt they have any influence of design on the new Disco.

[bbyer]

The link below suggests the Ford Bridgend plant in Wales is probably where the engine came from for the current Discovery. I do believe Ford is trying to cut its ties to Land Rover but that takes years. Apparently the new engines are to come at some time in the future from an engine plant with just the Land Rover name on the plant gate.

Ford Bridgend Engine Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As to styling, well that could be original but I think the time is not yet there and probably the longer it takes, maybe the better.

Myself, over here, I wish the Ford parts and service organization was available to us; we would go from about 40 factory repair outlets total all across Canada, to a shop in near every village - now that would be growth. I expect the same applies to Australia, but not to the same degree.

[bbyer]

When I first saw it I thought the rear quarter looked like a Territory. Some styling resemblance looking from the front too.That is my view as well; Per below the "all new" Evoque is using Ford produced engines, and the word Volvo keeps appearing.

I can be very patient waiting for the name Tata to become prominent - world leaders in 3 wheelers.

Range Rover Evoque - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[RANDLOVER]

I believe the new engines are coming from Jaguar as Tata bought JLR from Ford.

[rar110]

Another news article on future Land Rover models, including D5 release in 2016.

http://m.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-news/land_rover_discovery_sport_will_kill_off_freelande r_83344_20140428

[voltron]

No new Defender in the near future.

Bummer.

[Celtoid]

Another news article on future Land Rover models, including D5 release in 2016.

Land Rover Discovery Sport will kill off Freelander | carsguide.com.au (http://m.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-news/land_rover_discovery_sport_will_kill_off_freelande r_83344_20140428)



Thanks mate,


I think that answers a lot of my "Why are LR/Jag still using Ford tagged stuff?" and also Bbyer's comments about Volvo. Sounds like LR/Jag and Volvo are breaking free.


I've often wondered how all these Intellectual Property rights work, years after the split ... and how Ford can use the same engine as the older D3 in their Territory range. Who actually created and 'owned' the design? And who actually owns the design of the other engines like the 3.0L TTD and V8 petrols.


Kev.

[bbyer]

Another example of Ford "design" is the new Mondeo or Fusion as it is called in North America.

Ford Mondeo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I can only assume the Ford still owns Aston Martins design group or .....

File:Aston Martin Rapide NYIAS.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aston_Martin_Rapide_NYIAS.jpg)

James Bond will probably drive up in a Ford in his next movie.

As to engine ownership, I suppose the guys who currently have the tooling assume they own the design. The Rolls-BMW / Bentley-VW tangle of a few years back suggests otherwise.

[BMKal]

This doesn't look bad. Reportedly the Freelander replacement / baby Disco. Might even consider one for SWMBO if they end up looking like this ............... ;)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/05/1290.jpg

[catch-22]

Have to agree. Would look great in another colour.