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Redback
6th April 2014, 10:11 AM
OK, I want some info about how they work, do you just plug them in and away you go and if you remove it, do you need to do anything afterwards (ie)re-flash.

Baz.

gghaggis
7th April 2014, 11:33 AM
Plug-in, use, un-plug, use. Some have an initial start-up routine (30s with ign on, 30s on idle, or similar), some don't bother.

Pretty simple

Cheers,

Gordon

Tombie
7th April 2014, 12:12 PM
Baz, think of them kind of like a Power Commander on a bike...

The intercept and feed a modified signal.

Most only modify injector timing, some up rail pressure to push more in.

IME they aren't a good solution, only mediocre.

Redback
7th April 2014, 12:29 PM
Everyone I've spoke to(In Australia) can't garrantee that a re-map will work on my model D4(Bosch ECU) so when the warranty runs out, was looking at another option, I'm not looking to drag off a 3.0l D4, just looking for a little extra when towing.

I'd be happy with mediocre:)

Other options are a larger intercooler and new exhaust(old one is crushed in places)

Baz.

Tombie
7th April 2014, 12:30 PM
Buy another ECU, load your car onto it and then send it to BAS

CaverD3
8th April 2014, 08:20 AM
Or Superchips guy will bench map yours and then apply a new map with a bluefin unit with which you can change the map back to OEM if you like or they can give you different maps.

Tombie
8th April 2014, 08:22 AM
Or Superchips guy will bench map yours and then apply a new map with a bluefin unit with which you can change the map back to OEM if you like or they can give you different maps.


Yes they can - but it is traceable; something to keep in mind.

CaverD3
8th April 2014, 11:44 AM
Yes the Bosch system is a pain.
The only way to make sure is to get another ECU for your map and swap original back.

Redback
8th April 2014, 04:55 PM
Yes the Bosch system is a pain.
The only way to make sure is to get another ECU for your map and swap original back.

Yes I have heard this, and why I was asking about the plug in maps, I figured when the car runs out of warranty, I'd try one if they worked on the Bosch ECU.

Baz.

jonesy63
8th April 2014, 05:09 PM
Or buy a working Bluefin module - not the broken one you had before! :p

Mine works and I can notice the difference.

josh.huber
9th April 2014, 02:21 PM
Everyone I've spoke to(In Australia) can't garrantee that a re-map will work on my model D4(Bosch ECU) so when the warranty runs out, was looking at another option, I'm not looking to drag off a 3.0l D4, just looking for a little extra when towing.

I'd be happy with mediocre:)

Other options are a larger intercooler and new exhaust(old one is crushed in places)

Baz.

Baz I put a post on the other thread to do with power upgrades that taipan exhaust is looking for a donor vehicle to put a system in and give a discount to not sure if they're doing a 2.7 as well but might Dave you some money

CaverD3
9th April 2014, 02:35 PM
There four different engine/ecu configs in the D4
D4 2.7 original (not Bosch engine management)
D4 2.7 Bosch engine management
D4 3.0L de-tuned engine (different injectors to Hi power) Bosch engine management
D4 3.0L Hi power engine Bosch engine management

I know there have been issues with 2.7 with Bosch engine management. This is most likely due to a small number having both 2.7 and changing over to new system.
I know of success with non Bosch 2.7.
Do we have any definitive results from the other engine configs?
Which supplier, which engine, what sort of tune, what result?

Redback
9th April 2014, 04:10 PM
Baz I put a post on the other thread to do with power upgrades that taipan exhaust is looking for a donor vehicle to put a system in and give a discount to not sure if they're doing a 2.7 as well but might Dave you some money

Had a look at their site, being in QLD, it's a bit far away, they are still looking for a vehicle for R&D.

I think there is a muffler place near us that was recommended by my Mechanic, I'll see what they say, the biggest obstacle is the cross flow pipe just behind the engine, very hard to get to apparently.

Bigger intercooler is easy, Allisport do two for the D3/4.

Baz.

Dougal
9th April 2014, 04:36 PM
Is expect nothing but more noise with an exhaust change. Engineers have been on top of exhaust restrictions for a long time now.

Redback
9th April 2014, 04:49 PM
Is expect nothing but more noise with an exhaust change. Engineers have been on top of exhaust restrictions for a long time now.

Yeah not interested in anything that is any noisier than what is standard, I changed my D2 TD5 exhaust because it was noisy, actually added a free flow style muffler to the straight through thing(removed centre muffler) I had in there and it actually helped with response and made it so much quieter.

May just get them to repair/replace what it crushed/bent.

Baz.

josh.huber
9th April 2014, 08:28 PM
My mate is doing a cross pipe on a 4,5 cruiser Ute at the moment $600 By itself and its supposed to be a pain in rear. Especially for us considering they built the fire wall around the engine. Another friend made his own exhaust for a 100 series straight through from turbo and you would be surprised how much noise the turbo kills. Especially compared to his 2.8 hilux non turbo he did the same to.the 100 just has a slight whirl sound. Not saying yours will be the same but hope so.