Best example of a P38 I've seen - apart from my own of course!!

[davidsonsm]

Anybody seen this. Looks like a rather splendid unmolested example. Well cared for. Top dollar.

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-2000/SSE-AD-2719085 (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-2000/SSE-AD-2719085)

[PeterH]

Looks like it's been garaged all its life, it is in great condition, 84,000 kms, not too many around like that.
$26,800? He might be dreamin!

[Keithy P38]

I saw that a few weeks ago, very tidy. I think it'd be a prime example of a well maintained vehicle. Wouldn't buy it to take off-road though ;-)

[redandy3575]

Very clean, a credit to him. Though $26,000 is a bit rich, you're well and truly in L322 territory. I'd say $16k - $20k tops, and even at that price you would not like anything at all to be wrong with it.

He's trying to get that price based on the low kilometres which I personally don't see as the holy grail in buying a car. Low kms with short distance driving can be just detrimental as high mileage cars.

[wayneg]

Well at that price you could have my newish ride. Infact i would give you 30% off. Mine being very late 2001, sequential gas, 150000k New tyres, new gen3`s, new rad, new water pump, all new rotors and pads.. the list goes on.
Have been told from underneath mine is the cleanest example seen in many many years. The inside is pretty much mint.
It will be used for offroading

[redandy3575]

Well at that price you could have my newish ride. Infact i would give you 30% off. Mine being very late 2001, sequential gas, 150000k New tyres, new gen3`s, new rad, new water pump, all new rotors and pads.. the list goes on.
Have been told from underneath mine is the cleanest example seen in many many years. The inside is pretty much mint.
It will be used for offroading

I like it. Are you serious about selling it?

[Grumbles]

I too looked at that car when it listed. It probably is one of the best around but $26800 for a 2000 HSE. Hmmm...if it lived up to its presentation of immaculate with no issues then maybe $18G tops for me.

The other thing is that the buyer at the asked for price will battle to get $26800 insurance as insurance companies will go for market value only plus around 10% unless big dollars annually are paid with the smaller specialist insurance companies.

Still -if that had listed 6 months ago I would have been knocking on his door for a chat.

[wayneg]

I like it. Are you serious about selling it?

Well as they say everything is for sale at the right price. My intention is to keep and use it as my daily drive and the other Thor 1999 will be up for sale soon. Just a few more jobs on the new, renew engine pulleys and fit trailer brake controller and find a towbar to fit. Finish duel battery setup

[FANTOM P38]

Anybody seen this. Looks like a rather splendid unmolested example. Well cared for. Top dollar.

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-2000/SSE-AD-2719085 (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-2000/SSE-AD-2719085)

Does look very tidy, but anyone notice trailer brake controller, may not have been "little old mans" probably towing boat or horse floats. 84k of what?

[wayneg]

I agree, you dont need a brake controller and a CB radio for popping out to pick up your pension. My car hasn`t even got a towbar

[Grumbles]

I sure did notice that Fantom. I have only ever purchased one used car - my LSE - with a tow bar fitted and then I checked hard for what it had towed which fortunately was nothing.

I am always wary of not only what was towed but how it was used - read abused here- when towing.

[p38arover]

Surely the best P38A was this one. :angel:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/150026-should-i-should-i-not-2.html#post1677781

[TheTree]

Hi

Seems odd to me that it's a 4.6 HSE yet it has less wood around the dash area than my MY99.

I would say that the interior of mine is as good, if not better than that one!

26K is about 10K too much IMHO

Steve

[Hoges]

Hi

Seems odd to me that it's a 4.6 HSE yet it has less wood around the dash area than my MY99.

I would say that the interior of mine is as good, if not better than that one!

26K is about 10K too much IMHO

Steve

Mine was manufactured July 1999 but is classified as MY2000. I suspect the advertised one is the same. My P38 is also a 4.6 HSE and there is minimal "woodwork". Indeed the suede plastic finish around the central area (radio/HEVAC etc) has gradually become quite soft and scratches /scrapes off easily. Not sure what to treat it with...

[TheTree]

Mine was manufactured July 1999 but is classified as MY2000. I suspect the advertised one is the same. My P38 is also a 4.6 HSE and there is minimal "woodwork". Indeed the suede plastic finish around the central area (radio/HEVAC etc) has gradually become quite soft and scratches /scrapes off easily. Not sure what to treat it with...

Hoges,

Mine was manufactured in July 99 as well, how odd !

Mine is a HSE 4.6

Steve

[FANTOM P38]

Best one ive seen is now in "willy" Melb.
Green Colour with cream interior - immac condition with PLENTY spent on 5.0L sounds nice & very tidy but he wont sell - Too sentimental to him.
I have pic somewhere even has rego "P 38" nice touch!

[davidsonsm]

Best one ive seen is now in "willy" Melb.
Green Colour with cream interior - immac condition with PLENTY spent on 5.0L sounds nice & very tidy but he wont sell - Too sentimental to him.
I have pic somewhere even has rego "P 38" nice touch!

Yeah seen that one parked on King Street in the city one time. Tiss a rather nice truck.

Anybody know how many P38 owners reside on this forum, in Australia?

[Gnat]

Mine was manufactured July 1999 but is classified as MY2000. I suspect the advertised one is the same. My P38 is also a 4.6 HSE and there is minimal "woodwork". Indeed the suede plastic finish around the central area (radio/HEVAC etc) has gradually become quite soft and scratches /scrapes off easily. Not sure what to treat it with...

Mine is a 1998 SE, and it has a lot more woodwork; the radio/HVAC surrounds are all wood. Maybe they cheapened out in the later models.

[Scouse]

Mine is a 1998 SE, and it has a lot more woodwork; the radio/HVAC surrounds are all wood. Maybe they cheapened out in the later models.If that's on your '98 SE then it's an aftermarket (plastic) wood kit.

[DT-P38]

Surely the best P38A was this one. :angel:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/150026-should-i-should-i-not-2.html#post1677781

Hey Ron,

Past tense used there... Have you sold it?

Also, thinking of something a couple of weeks ago I have no hope of creating. Are you bored enough for a technical P38a challenge ATM?

Dave

[p38arover]

No, Dave, still have it Now have different drawers in the back. Here it is last week: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/195484-4wd-nude-muster-5.html#post2132667

What's your challenge?

[DT-P38]

No, Dave, still have it Now have different drawers in the back. Here it is last week: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/195484-4wd-nude-muster-5.html#post2132667

What's your challenge?

An EAS Valve block reco pressure and leak test bed.

Rebuilding with absolute care and still getting a little leak after install is a dead set PITA.

I theorised about it with Marty (Fantom) a while ago but it got way too technical for my simple mind... have you ever put any thought to it?

P.S. Looking good there... Glad you're still in the P38a Pride!

[p38arover]

I've never thought about building anything like that. I wonder if PaulP38A has - he's been doing a bit with the EAS lately.

[benji]

A test need without the driver pack would be technically difficult.
Otherwise just a bit of nutting out.

[DT-P38]

Is the driver necessary? Couldn't the basic processes be tested without?

[p38arover]

Is the driver necessary? Couldn't the basic processes be tested without?

I can't see why not. Use the Rovair?. That controls the valve block directly after unplugging the ECU and plugging in the Rovair. I have one of these.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/06/651.jpg

[benji]

Trouble is, without the driver you havn't got the pwm control of the coil, and (from what I understand) you risk burning the coils. I imagine also you'd want to be able to test the driver unit as well as they seem to cause a few problems also.

I wonder if it's a 12v or 5 volt signal to the driver unit?

[p38arover]

I forgot the Rovair still controls the driver pack - it replaces the EAS ECU.

Maybe buy a driver pack for the test bed.

[DT-P38]

So this is actually where I start getting a little light headed with it all... my feeble little brain doesn't like going into deep thought mode much anymore! I know yours loves that though, sooooo... will you accept the challenge Ron?

Understanding my role of "ideas man" is probably the easiest one here... and also that it's not a cheap or simple thing to do, if you contribute the brains/time, I would happily fund (or perhaps co-fund if others want in) the parts required for the initial alpha development and also a beta version? You can keep the Alpha in NSW and I will maintain the Beta in VIC (or vice-a-versa if you wish).

My intent for the VIC unit would be for free use by VIC AULRO P38a buddies and perhaps the odd money making reco (if I can ever get that organised!).

A bit preemptive, but maybe someone from the other states would like one too?

[davidsonsm]

It would be a truly great thing. I reckon its taken me twelve in and outs (removals and reinstalls) and three valve blocks, a new driver, plus two new O ring kits (plus a bag of spare pesky one's) to get me back to "as new". A rock solid car.

That says much about me and my ham fistedness when fiddling with those darn pesky O rings. And perservering without "flattening" the solenoid valves - until I eventually did. And perservering without wafer fab lab standards of cleanliness - until I eventually did it in the kitchen rather than the garage.

[Discotd5fan]

Check out this immaculate P38. Definitely one of the best ones I have ever seen and a reasonable price too. If I didn't already own one I would definitely be looking at this.

1997 Land Rover Range Rover P38A Autobiography (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-1997/SSE-AD-2758382/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1)

[mtb_gary]

Check out this immaculate P38. Definitely one of the best ones I have ever seen and a reasonable price too. If I didn't already own one I would definitely be looking at this.

1997 Land Rover Range Rover P38A Autobiography (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-1997/SSE-AD-2758382/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1)

Never towed anything and never been off road sounds like a wast of a p38. That's what they are built for along with very comfortable highway cruising ;). Nice looking car.

Gary

[davidsonsm]

Never towed anything and never been off road sounds like a wast of a p38. That's what they are built for along with very comfortable highway cruising ;). Nice looking car.

Gary

What does the autobiography actually get you. Different wheels. Chrome interior door handles. A pinstripe. And trimmed seat beading.

But yes - a very nice example well cared for it appears. Top dollar for a 97. But low kms.

[Scouse]

Check out this immaculate P38. Definitely one of the best ones I have ever seen and a reasonable price too. If I didn't already own one I would definitely be looking at this.

1997 Land Rover Range Rover P38A Autobiography (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-1997/SSE-AD-2758382/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1)Looks nice but not original anymore. Later indicators at front, RR Sport wheels, aftermarket door handles (covers?), late headlights, drilled grille, interior pillars de-flocked.....

[DT-P38]

interior pillars de-flocked.....
That's how they are on Autobiog's. Leather wrapped instead of flocked

[Scouse]

That's how they are on Autobiog's. Leather wrapped instead of flockedReally? That's the first I've heard of that feature.
There's no mention of special pillar trims in the parts listing.

[DT-P38]

Really? That's the first I've heard of that feature.
There's no mention of special pillar trims in the parts listing.

I may have been "stitched up" then. I purchased a full "autobog" set from ebayUK last year and Mrs brought them back in luggage on a work trip. Still have't changed the sunroof cassette out yet and was going to swap them on when I get into that.

Will take a photo some time this week and share (whatever it is?!?).

[davidsonsm]

Read this and weap. How much would like to get your hands on this:

Land Rover Range Rover 4.6 HSE 4dr Auto (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201406094872465/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/model/range_rover/make/land_rover/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/bl97ey/maximum-age/over_10_years_old/keywords/P38/page/1/radius/1500?logcode=p)

[wayneg]

Not for me, I just could not get past the Drivers Armrest trim being missing, Shame the rest looks good.

[davidsonsm]

I just want that engine. Get it broken down in the UK, and have the parts you want sent over.

[Keithy P38]

Bugger me, the engine sounds great! And the rear suspension! How would it go off road ;-)

[FANTOM P38]

Sounds like its been setup as a street racer!
Probably rides like a brick.
But motor does sound nice!

[davidsonsm]

Looks like the new QLD owner of the higherr (Marcus) RR P38 hasn't lasted too long with the vehicle:

Range Rover P38 Fitted With LS1 V8 in Gympie, QLD | eBay

[Scouse]

Judging by the lack of rego plates, I wonder if the Qld authorities didn't like it.

[davidsonsm]

Mmmm - I wonder. Marcus had mentioned the new owner kept coming back at him. There's no mention of the LPG system in the advert. It had twin tanks in place of the wheel well.

Strange that the air suspension was totally manual.

[TheTree]

I can't find it on Ebay at all

Steve

[davidsonsm]

Ebay Item Number: 321496139689

Steve - Your stars are aligning. I've seen the vehicle when Marcus had it - PM me if you want an opinion and the story behind the vehicle.

[mtb_gary]

Looks like quite a beast. I wonder how they would go getting a RWC with some of the modifications?

Gary

[davidsonsm]

Correction - Marcus's username is highrr. If anybody is considering a bid and has questions, I'm sure he'd be happy to chip in - if you PM him.

At the current price, the owner is taking a big hit. Marcus bought it from a garage near Sydney, who'd prepared the car for a Saudi ($$$$) gentleman or some such. But they never came through with the dosh to complete the purchase.

There was piggy backed ECU designed by a whiz kid to manage the LS1. The engine bay is chocker. Marcus had extractors fitted. He also had Ashcroft lockers fitted. He also fitted the wheel arches and snorkel. And the alloy wheels and winch mount.

As mentioned, it had LPG when Marcus had it with twin underlung tanks in place of the wheel well. It launched itself very well.

I wouldn't buy without an inspection. It's certainly a unique beast. The description leaves so much information out - strange.

[TheTree]

Ebay Item Number: 321496139689

Steve - Your stars are aligning. I've seen the vehicle when Marcus had it - PM me if you want an opinion and the story behind the vehicle.

I'm not sure it's the beast for me, I primarily want a good towing vehicle with offroad capabilities .. the more the better of course.

I don't think a lifted suspension is such a good idea for a towing vehicle, but I guess one could calibrate highway mode lower!

Steve

[FANTOM P38]

Correct me if im wrong but im sure Marcus's was on coils????
When I spoke to him after sale he did mention it was experiencing " some cooling issues" but did'nt elaborate.
I'm just wondering if there may be an engineering issue also :angel:
Strange that there are no plates on it now!

Otherwise i'd love to own it.
Might be a good one for MIck Marsh :D

[davidsonsm]

Pretty sure it was on air, but without the compressor and valve block. He reckoned it held air well enough. But without the adjustable heights.

The guy in QLD bought sight unseen and paid top dollar. Marcus says he was dealing with a guy who thought he'd bought a "perfect" vehicle.

[mtb_gary]

I'm not sure it's the beast for me, I primarily want a good towing vehicle with offroad capabilities .. the more the better of course.

I don't think a lifted suspension is such a good idea for a towing vehicle, but I guess one could calibrate highway mode lower!

Steve
Steve

With my lift the highway height is slightly lower than the factory off road height. No problem at all with towing. The trailer sits very flat.

Gary

[FANTOM P38]

The guy in QLD bought sight unseen and paid top dollar. Marcus says he was dealing with a guy who thought he'd bought a "perfect" vehicle.[/QUOTE]

Is there such an animal?

[davidsonsm]

The eBay listing was ended early this evening. Not sure why?

[TheTree]

The eBay listing was ended early this evening. Not sure why?

It was re-listed but who knows what the story is

Happily it's raining P38's on the Central Coast right now, I have 3 or 4 to look at on the weekend, plus a top of the line TD5 disco.

I commented that if I bought a disco, the P38 forum would probably disown me :p

If I take one of the options I may finish up with 3 rear bars !

Steve

[Scouse]

The eBay listing was ended early this evening. Not sure why?


It was re-listed but who knows what the story is

It's back on with a 'reserve' now:
Range Rover P38 Fitted With LS1 V8 in Gympie, QLD | eBay

[TheTree]

Failed to meet reserve and passed in

Personally I am looking at this one with a favourable eye ;)

1996 Range Rover P38A 4 6L HSE Exceptional Vehicle Restoration | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1996-RANGE-ROVER-P38A-4-6L-HSE-Exceptional-vehicle-restoration-/281424198477?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item4186307b4d)

Steve

[davidsonsm]

Failed to meet reserve and passed in

Personally I am looking at this one with a favourable eye ;)

1996 Range Rover P38A 4 6L HSE Exceptional Vehicle Restoration | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1996-RANGE-ROVER-P38A-4-6L-HSE-Exceptional-vehicle-restoration-/281424198477?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item4186307b4d)

Steve
Steve, sounds too good to pass up. Well worth a look.

[FANTOM P38]

The eBay listing was ended early this evening. Not sure why?
I recken it ended early so it could be relisted with a reserve price - otherwise he may have been risking a loss!