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worane
21st April 2014, 06:57 PM
I bit the bullet over the week end and flushed out the cooling system.
Some dick h had put green coolant in my TD5. rad.
Whilst doing this I replaced the top hose and after reading on this forum about back flushing the heater Took BOTH pipes off the heater . You would be amazed by the amount of crud that came out of that heater box.
My heating has always been nothing but ordinary. Now it works like a Russian limo out of Siberia. Give you sunburn almost.
I now have OAT pink back in it. All good now.
Road Stone
21st April 2014, 07:27 PM
Can't you have the green stuff in a TD5?
I've got it in mine:(
Cheers
Outback 1
21st April 2014, 07:59 PM
Can't you have the green stuff in a TD5?
I've got it in mine:(
Cheers
I think its personal choice l r recommend oat Justin c uses glycol in his and others and says its no problem I also no of others who run cummins coolant with no issues ultimately the choice is yours
schuy1
21st April 2014, 09:29 PM
Play it again Sam..... There is Red OAT, and there is Green OAT.
And either will work, just as glycol norm will work.
Cheers Scott
Road Stone
22nd April 2014, 05:38 AM
Play it again Sam..... There is Red OAT, and there is Green OAT.
And either will work, just as glycol norm will work.
Cheers Scott
Thanks and that is a relief.
You can't get the pink stuff here in Uganda so I dumped it for green.
Cheers Jerry
schuy1
23rd April 2014, 02:24 PM
Just as an added bit of info, If you are going to use normal rad additive, ie glycol based, you will need to change it no longer than 2 yrs. OAT and HOAT, can last up to 5 yrs without changing.
Cheers Scott
NWTASD2
23rd April 2014, 06:49 PM
Hey Worane...........
Just wait for the leaks...........:angel:
d2dave
23rd April 2014, 11:49 PM
OAT and HOAT, can last up to 5 yrs without changing.
Cheers Scott
I use Cummins and it lasts a lot longer than that.
A quote from their website.
With a product life expectancy of 20,000 hours(1.5 million kms), PG Platinum is expected to
outlive most engines in which it is used.
Clarkey
24th April 2014, 08:08 PM
Fine to use cummins pg platinum coolant in cummins engines, very few will make it to 1.5 million kilometres without a rebuild. As for using it in our landrovers, it is a coolant designed for use in a cast iron block, cast iron cylinder head, copper core radiator. Personally I would never use it in and alloy block V8 with alloy heads and an aluminium radiator.
d2dave
24th April 2014, 10:37 PM
Cummins claim that PG platinum is suitable for ANY engine be it petrol or diesel.
So if this wrecks my Td5 guess who is paying.
rick130
24th April 2014, 11:00 PM
Fine to use cummins pg platinum coolant in cummins engines, very few will make it to 1.5 million kilometres without a rebuild. As for using it in our landrovers, it is a coolant designed for use in a cast iron block, cast iron cylinder head, copper core radiator. Personally I would never use it in and alloy block V8 with alloy heads and an aluminium radiator.
Wrong, it's fine for aluminium, it's a HOAT.
BTW, the bloody name has been changed, again.......
I'll have to look in the morning what it's called now.
CAT ELC is just the same stuff as Land Rover OAT with a tiny bit of, bugger, can't recall at the moment, but it's almost identical.
Personally I've switched to the Cummins coolant, been using it for over two years now in two vehicles, one with an alloy head, (Tdi) the other an alloy radiator, (Patrol) no issues at all.
worane
27th April 2014, 02:34 PM
Leaks! what leaks. Oh the leaks I got after just two days.
Made me fit my new rad that I bought from Mario & Heather a couple of months ago.
Also blew the oil cooler to bits when it was pressure tested.
All good now. I have been getting corrosion on the brass heater hose spiggots and the top rad. hose pipe to engine spiggot.
I have thought long and hard over this one and was told that a coolant made by a company name starts with N could be the cause of the leaks. I now have new OAT made for Land Rovers.
Time will tell.
NWTASD2
27th April 2014, 06:53 PM
Hey Worane,
I flushed, changed hoses and re-filled my system, with the stuff starting with N and I have leaks galore.
It never leaked prior to this. The guy who owned it before me had green coolant in it which I didn't know abut until I flushed the system.
He is a forum member and very good mechanic so it must have been appropriate green. The system seemed to be very healthy.
My mechanic had topped it up with pink.. So I had purple coolant. But he left the radiator cap off after the second service he did.
So I decided that if anybody was going to wreck my car it may aswell be me.
I thought I was doing the right thing when changing it all to pink. From Super Cheap.
We have CAT coolant at work and I will talk to the boss to see if I can buy 15ltrs from him and then I will flush and change to CAT coolant.
The SCA pink has only been in the system for a month.
d2dave
27th April 2014, 08:36 PM
He is a forum member and very good mechanic so it must have been appropriate green. The system seemed to be very healthy.
Looking at your location I think we know who this is, and yes he is good.
worane
27th April 2014, 09:00 PM
NWTASD2.If your so called mechanic mixed green and pink together he needs his bum kicked. They go crazy and stuff up your cooling system.
I went to huge trouble to flush out ALL the green.
Having said that , I have had just the same troubles you have had in the change over ie.LEAKS..
I had no problems till I changed over.
This will not happen again as I have been told I am getting a big bag of hindsight for a Birthday present this year.
NWTASD2
28th April 2014, 05:48 AM
Hey D2dave,
Its not the guru.
But he has helped me out.
Cheers..........:)
rick130
28th April 2014, 07:04 AM
As I mentioned above the Cummins PG Platinum coolant as had another name change......
It's now known as Cummins TECinfinity extended life coolant.
Geez they make it hard....
NWTASD2
28th April 2014, 05:56 PM
So I had a look today at work.
We have 100tr drum with green 50/50 concentrate. No Cat Label....
The mechanic has put a sign above it that says FOR ALL GEAR.
We have 5 Hino and 8 Izusu Trucks. 12 Cat diggers 6 Bomag Rollers. And 3 Cat Graders. Varios Tractors and other gear ALL are Deisel.
I am assuming its good quality coolant. If it can be used in all these machines.
In the three years I have worked there I have never heard or seen a piece of gear over heat or have cooling system troubles.
The mechanic is in hospital.
So before I approach the boss to buy some..It is unlikely that he will know what brand it is. He has alot on his plate. He will just say its good for everything "Cant you see the sign".
I figure he will say sling him $50 bucks so a massive saving for me.
If I ask for some essentially I am asking for a favour this makes me hesitant to ask the office to dig out the invoice to see what brand it is.
Is there any other way to identify its origin? I feel positive about it as we use it in all our CAT gear.....
Cheers
schuy1
28th April 2014, 07:15 PM
To add more confusion to the mix I see that the "N" brand now has a BLUE OAT coolant! :o Supposedly compatible with a wide range of European cars. Maybe a inkling about the pink stuff?
Cheers Scott
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