P38 fumes in cabin

[Mickon1963]

Hi Guys n Gals.
Can anyone advise me as to what may be causing the enormous amount of fumes that have started entering my cabin. I have only had the vehicle for a couple of weeks now.
Mick

[Pete38]

Haven't had it myself but is it when in motion or not moving?

Does your exhaust leak?

If not moving you may have one of the rubber bungs out below the rear lights (underneath). Although that goes into behind the rear lights so not sure how much would enter the cabin. Perhaps one of the wheel well metal plugs has come out. Can see these underneath. Then the more obvious one is the rear seal on the hatch.

All of the above is unlikely to come into the cabin but worth a look.

[Mickon1963]

Thanks mate, I will have to look in the morning, it has gotten that bad I am physically ill from it. I don't believe that there are any bungs missing from the wheel well and the seal around the rear tailgate appears to be in good condition. I can notice the fumes while driving and while standing still.
Still, its a very nice vehicle though, a couple of small hitches like this won't put me off.
Mick

[Mickon1963]

Thanks mate, I will probably have to get an exhaust specialist to look under the car for me, I had a heart attack at xmas and I am still recovering, just a bit hard to clamber around at the moment.
Mick

[benji]

Is the sealing rubber at the back of the engine bay there?
If it was missing and you had a leak at the y pipe that'd do it.

[redandy3575]

Thanks mate, I will have to look in the morning, it has gotten that bad I am physically ill from it. I don't believe that there are any bungs missing from the wheel well and the seal around the rear tailgate appears to be in good condition. I can notice the fumes while driving and while standing still.
Still, its a very nice vehicle though, a couple of small hitches like this won't put me off.
Mick

Ahhhh the good ol Range Rover exhaust scent, lol. Wouldn't be a Rangie if you couldn't smell the exhaust.

Mine smells a bit too, but I'm sure it enters at the rear tailgate, more so when you're driving with a window open. But for whatever reason, it still keeps the majority of dust out so can't explain the logic of that one.

[Mickon1963]

Thanks mate, I am gunna go and have a good look over it this morning, it hast to go on a journey of a few hundred k's on wednesday so I gotta find n fix asap.
mick

[Mickon1963]

I don't think this old girl has ever seen a dirt road, there just doesn't seem to be dirt in the areas in the engine bay where it's impossible to clean, the mileage is pretty low and there are only the usual shopping bay scratches on it, not bush pinstriping. its a great car except for this damn exhaust smell.
Mick

[Pete38]

Ahhhh the good ol Range Rover exhaust scent, lol. Wouldn't be a Rangie if you couldn't smell the exhaust.

Mine smells a bit too, but I'm sure it enters at the rear tailgate, more so when you're driving with a window open. But for whatever reason, it still keeps the majority of dust out so can't explain the logic of that one.

Isn't there flaps in the rear tailgate to stop positive pressure? Or was that another car I had. Possibly they are stuck open. I might be making this bit up in my mind mind you.

You're not wrong about fumes getting in but no dust. Must be a very minor leak that doesn't allow dust particles. Although that red dust in the centre would make it through I reckon :)

[Mickon1963]

I think that there may be some kind of filter system in the tailgate. I will go have a look.
Mick.

[benji]

There's 4 foam filters in the rear tailgate, with rubber flaps over them.
I know if I drive with the tailgate open it fills the car up pretty quick unless the fans are on high.

[Mickon1963]

Hi again guys, well I have checked the exhaust from front to back and back again, I have had an exhaust specialist take a look and he found a couple of small holes that are now repaired, I have adjusted the tailgate to close a bit tighter, I have cleaned the two filters in the tailgate that don't appear to have ever been cleaned before. and I have had a small dump pipe fitted instead of the exhaust tip so that the fumes can be pushed down away from the tailgate. I have also inspected the hoses under the bonnet and found one that was split, changed that, so tomorrow I am gunna take the old girl, no not the wife, she can drive herself, for a spin ta see if I still have a problem.
Mick

[davidsonsm]

Sounds promising. Hope it proves to be.

[redandy3575]

Isn't there flaps in the rear tailgate to stop positive pressure? Or was that another car I had. Possibly they are stuck open. I might be making this bit up in my mind mind you.

You're not wrong about fumes getting in but no dust. Must be a very minor leak that doesn't allow dust particles. Although that red dust in the centre would make it through I reckon :)

I'll have to have a look. Cant say i ever noticed any flaps or air outlet on the bottom of the tailgate. Though i havent checked the top tailgate.

[benji]

There's one way flaps in the top tailgate.
Being cold this morning I was watching the exhaust condensation swirl around the back of the car this morning, and it really does swirl right up to the topb of the car. So it could get in there easy of those flaps are damaged.

I am amazed at the dust proofing of the p38 though!

[Mickon1963]

Thanks everybody for your thoughts and contributions.
Well I have managed to cut the fumes back considerably and we don't get sick anymore when we drive. Phew.
The old girl is still a work in progress, and so is my Rangie.
Now to tackle the other issues.
Mick :D