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debruiser
29th April 2014, 02:30 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/99.jpg (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/debruiser/media/1980%20Series%203/IMG_20140429_150453_zpsba845622.jpg.html)

So I found the above freewheeling AVM hubs in a bucket of parts the other day, thought I would throw them on the 109. I was cleaning them up - took the selector bit off and was mucking around cleaning when the little 'locating pin' that holds the engagement gear thingo from spinning came out. I've had a quick play but can't figure out how to get it back in successfully. Pulled the 2nd hub apart and found that the pin was missing completely.

Q1. Is the pin needed, can I just throw it out and use the hubs as is?
Q2. If no to Q1, how do I get it back in and where can I get a new pin for the 2nd hub?

Sorry about the quality of the photo, my camera died and had to use the phone.

87County
29th April 2014, 03:55 PM
Little point in installing them - you'll find that there will be no measureable increase in fuel economy.

Leaving the front hubs as designed (original) keeps lube going where it should.

debruiser
29th April 2014, 04:03 PM
I knew this conversation would start! :p

I have a LSD in the front and 32x11.5xR15's on it so the steering is heavy for the mrs.... was hoping for an improvement that way.

Chops
29th April 2014, 04:26 PM
I dunno,, I had these on my S3, made a huge difference to fuel, and to the handling/steering IMO

debruiser
29th April 2014, 04:43 PM
87County, that's also why there aren't any on there at the moment... I thought i'd put it the way LR intended.

Homestar
29th April 2014, 07:20 PM
Not sure on the AVM ones. I have the selectro units on mine - I've had them apart but they have a 3 pin design.

I ran these on my old IIa years ago and yes, they improved the steering no end - I didn't keep an eye on fuel usage, so not sure if it helps there.

I'll be keeping the selectos on mine when I restore it.

debruiser
29th April 2014, 07:51 PM
thanks guys, would it help if I took more photos?

These look to me like they would be plenty tough when in use! The old girl came with selectro units on it but one had exploded, so I removed both and fitted fixed drive flanges.

It says on the front that they are made in Brazil, under licence from Warn.

Homestar
29th April 2014, 08:03 PM
Yes, I believe they are much tougher than the selectro units. Still available new as well. - Products AVM (http://www.avm.com.br/products4.htm)

If (when?) the selectros explode, I'll look at buying a set.:)

ARB are stockists for them, but I cringe to think how much they would want for a set.

Model 405 for 10 spline (early - series I, II, IIa and some III's)
Model 406 for 24 spline (late - series III)

debruiser
30th April 2014, 02:09 PM
I know it's another rubbish photo but

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/10.jpg (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/debruiser/media/1980%20Series%203/IMG_20140430_145540_zps05a1a79c.jpg.html)

you can see the little hole where the pin came from.... any ideas on how to fix it? the pin doesn't seem to want to return to it's correct location

you can also see the little pin on the right inside the seal.

Lionelgee
30th April 2014, 04:10 PM
G'day Debruiser,

Maybe you could go to the original manufacturer - http://www.avm.com.br/avm.htm
Internet Site Products http://www.avm.com.br/products4.htm

General information: avm@avm.com.br
Sales: export@avm.com.br
Customer Service: engenharia@avm.com.br

They also have service kits ...AVM Free Wheel Hubs Service kits are available for all models. These are used for a perfect re-installation of AVM hubs after front end maintenance or repairs.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Homestar
30th April 2014, 07:52 PM
G'day Debruiser,

Maybe you could go to the original manufacturer - AVM (http://www.avm.com.br/avm.htm)
Internet Site Products Products AVM (http://www.avm.com.br/products4.htm)

General information: avm@avm.com.br
Sales: export@avm.com.br
Customer Service: engenharia@avm.com.br

They also have service kits ...AVM Free Wheel Hubs Service kits are available for all models. These are used for a perfect re-installation of AVM hubs after front end maintenance or repairs.

Kind Regards
Lionel

I sent them an email - they politely replied that ARB are the Australian distributor. I zapped ARB an email to check if they kept them, and they have 2 of the 24 spline kits in stock - $382 for the pair. Didn't ask about the service kits though. They have the 10 spline kits as well for $360. (I think?)

debruiser
1st May 2014, 07:38 AM
I sent them an email - they politely replied that ARB are the Australian distributor. I zapped ARB an email to check if they kept them, and they have 2 of the 24 spline kits in stock - $382 for the pair. Didn't ask about the service kits though. They have the 10 spline kits as well for $360. (I think?)

ummm am i reading that correctly - a service kit is $360!! or is that a new set of hubs.... at 360 bucks for a service kit i'll just bodge my set up :o:wasntme:

Lionelgee
1st May 2014, 08:29 AM
ummm am i reading that correctly - a service kit is $360!! or is that a new set of hubs.... at 360 bucks for a service kit i'll just bodge my set up :o:wasntme:
Hello Debruiser,

You can pick yourself up off the floor now. When you do and have quietened down some, have a look at Bacicat's message and it has its own little sentence ....
Didn't ask about the service kits though

I did some research and came across a forum and they mentioned about what the manual that came with their new set of hubs hubs described. Maybe if you can identify the product code, model or other identifying marks off your hubs ARB or AVM could supply you with a PDF copy of the correct manual? It might answer your pin questions.

Kind Regards
Lionel

debruiser
1st May 2014, 09:00 AM
Hello Debruiser,

You can pick yourself up off the floor now. When you do and have quietened down some, have a look at Bacicat's message and it has its own little sentence ....
Didn't ask about the service kits though

I did some research and came across a forum and they mentioned about what the manual that came with their new set of hubs hubs described. Maybe if you can identify the product code, model or other identifying marks off your hubs ARB or AVM could supply you with a PDF copy of the correct manual? It might answer your pin questions.

Kind Regards
Lionel

OK.... wowzer! I was going to say if the rebuild kit is $360, then how much is a new set of hubs! but in reality I should just put my glasses on when i'm at the computer rather than just squinting. :D

I think i shall email AVM, and share what i find out with everyone.

Lionelgee
1st May 2014, 09:31 AM
Hello Debruiser,

I may have found the forum that people were describing their AVM hubs on.

A couple of people mention servicing their hubs and troubleshooting. You may be able to post a message on the forum and get some assistance.

It is an Aussie forum too :)

View topic - AVM Free Wheeling Hubs | Australian 4WD Action (http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=115336)

Kind Regards
Lionel