Rijidij tube bar upgrade.......

[weeds]

Finally some bits have arrived.......between being on holidays and issues with galvaniser I finally pick up all the bits from a local engineering company this morning

2 x recovery points.....haven't opened the parcel yet but one should be a light bar
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Bar all wrapped up
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Before pic, minus cable......forgot how much weight is in the cable
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[Drover]

Come on, get to turning those spanners.......

Waiting patiently for the results ! :D

[weeds]

Naked
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If only I had a 3/4 or 19mm socket...got there in the end
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Tip.....the PTO will dump all of its oil when turned vertically....oh and I probably should have change it once and a awhile as it was milky

[weeds]

First look at the bar.......it's looks better in real life than the pics that Murray posted. The powder coating looks good as well.

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[dullbird]

Jesus weeds hurry up!!!! Get the bloody thing on!!! Lol

[weeds]

Work has stopped as the electrician has arrived so it's back to renos til at least 1pm

I might have to buy some bolts and washers to pack the bottom mount out.

I did have a test fit and I think it's OK....really need a second person to assist as it feels like the bottom mount might be just touching the front member.

[Dopey]

I did have a test fit and I think it's OK....really need a second person to assist as it feels like the bottom mount might be just touching the front member.

Um, either I have a very warped and dirty mind, or just read that statement the wrong way, or you are very flexible, or your front member is quite long...... Whatever, not sure......

Please, when you have finished fitting it, could you post a picture showing if it protects the lower parts of the front guards, on a lot of tube bars (rovacraft, terrafirma etc) the bar sits higher than the guards, leading to potential damage.

Regards,
Mike.

[weeds]

Right it's on..........

I should have opened all the packages as I was scratching my head for a bit. Found two spacers and it all clicked.

With the spaces the bar is a nice tight fit over the chassis rails. In fact it was an effort lining up the four vertical bolts, applied plenty of anti seize as I think I was lucky getting my old bar off. I need to purchase two longer horizontal bolts and that should make it secure.

Winch is not fitted but managed to fit the antenna and light bar. What's the chances of the hi-low switch failing the same day you fit new lights grrrrrr.

Keep in mind mine is set up for a PTO winch.......the bar sits further out by maybe 40mm. If I had my time over again I would have got Murray set the cradle back and I would have shortened up the drive shafts.

I have some feedback for Murray for future bars, but overall I am very happy with the result considering there is nothing on the market for a PTO winch.

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I'm guessing an electric winch bar will sit closer to the body.
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For 90@, the bottom of the bar is the same height as the bottom of guard
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Re: number plate, Murray supplies a bracket but I think I will go a slim plate and fit below the fare lead.

Now just have to find time to fit the winch and new rope.

[Ranga]

Hate to ask, but is the bar compliant with the winch mount sticking out like that? :eek:

[weeds]

Hate to ask, but is the bar compliant with the winch mount sticking out like that? :eek:

Dunno.......the pics looks a little worse than real life. There are other off the shelf bars which stick out, not that I have seen them up and close to a defender.

Either way it's way better than what I had.

If I had my time over I would have recessed it and adjust the drive shaft.

[Tombie]

Looks good though

[rijidij]

Thanks for the feedback and pics Kelvin, it's great to finally see the new bar fitted to a Defender. As with any new product there will likely be some minor tweaks to do.


Keep in mind mine is set up for a PTO winch.......the bar sits further out by maybe 40mm
The design of the PTO bar was based on keeping the winch in exactly the same position as before, so the drive shaft would fit straight on, but if the winch can be moved back a little, this might be one of the 'tweaks' to be made.

I've got three of the electric winch version at the powder coaters now, including one with DRL's recessed into the main tubes, so hopefully I'll have some pics of these soon.
The one with the DRL's was going to go on my County, but I had to let it go to a customer :(.......oh well, I'll just have to wait for mine.

Cheers, Murray

[Dopey]

Weeds and Rijidij,
The bar looks good!
I like it.
And it sticks out a little more on the sides and a little lower on the front, giving a bit more protection for the guards than the other makes of tube bars.
Saving my pennies for a rear wheel carrier first though. (Rijidij of course).
Regards,
Mike.

[weeds]

Dropped in on nugget this arvo to sort out a hawse fair lead........better get the winch mounted.

[clive22]

Hi

Ordered one of these to suit my PTO equipped County from Murray last weekend.

Should look better than the battered old alloy bar
I've got on there now.

Will post up some pics when its on.


Clive

[weeds]

All finished minus hawse fair lead.......

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[dullbird]

are those swivel recovery points on either side of the winch tray?

I wonder how they would go on anything other than a straight line pull...

most recovery points on bars are usually the most forward in comparison to anything on the bar, I thought..

These look like that would make contact with the tray of you were bridle pulling at an angle

[weeds]

are those swivel recovery points on either side of the winch tray?

I wonder how they would go on anything other than a straight line pull...

most recovery points on bars are usually the most forward in comparison to anything on the bar, I thought..

These look like that would make contact with the tray of you were bridle pulling at an angle

Scroll back up and you will notice my original recovery hooks are still in place.....they were tucked behind on the old bar as well

I have never used a bridle when winching....

Keep in mind this is a PTO setup, the electric might be different.

[dullbird]

im not talking about winching from a bridle im talking about being towed or snatched

[weeds]

Just went outside for a look......no chance of a bridle using the swivel points whether it be winching, snatched or towed

Again I have never used a bridle for snatch recoveries or towing.....

I have left the recovery hooks in place as they are lower and clear the cradle.......the hooks would allow me to use a bridle if I were to buy one

I am considering replacing the hooks with jate?? I think that's what they are call recovery points

[weeds]

Oh my winch has only been used four times (only one was self recovery) in eight years, my have been snatched once, have been winched once up a stupidly steep hill at about 10km/hr and we just hooked on to one hook.

[dullbird]

if your swivels are lower than the cradle then is kind of makes my question defunct anyway :)

it looked like in your photo that they were almost side by side of the cradle at the same height which is why I asked the question

must of been just a bit of photo trickery

[weeds]

if your swivels are lower than the cradle then is kind of makes my question defunct anyway :)

it looked like in your photo that they were almost side by side of the cradle at the same height which is why I asked the question

must of been just a bit of photo trickery

You are correct the swivel recovery points are right beside the cradle which means you cannot use a bridle.....the swivels come with the bar. They make a great spot to attach my rope to......I don't think I will use them for recovery, maybe a 2:1 pull

I have retained the hooks that I had with my TJM bar which would allow me to use a bridle

[dullbird]

Aaaaa I see what you mean now :)

it may be totally fine having the swivels in that area I was just curious...whether it would effect towing/snatching a vehicle out..

[weeds]

Picked up my hawse fare lead the other night from Nugg t so the install is nearly compete, i only have to fit the rear bolt. Still deciding if I use washer or see if Jate Ring will take up the space.

I tell ya Nugg t does a good job on the fare leads, they feel way more solid that your off the shelf jobbies

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[weeds]

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