Who else has a 110 HCPU????

[Felix]

Hey guys, so in my adventures around NSW I have yet to see another 110 HCPU.. and was wondering...does anyone else on here have one??

Maybe that's why I don't get many waves back...:confused::confused:

[JDNSW]

They are very rare - almost all "cab" Landrovers sold in Australia since the 1970s have been fitted with flat trays. A few more dual cab 130s have the HCPU body, but I have probably only ever seen a couple of single cabs with one.

John

[rijidij]

Like John said, very rare. I've only seen one in the Geelong area.........actually it's the only one I've ever seen in the flesh.
Cheers, Murray

[n plus one]

Hey guys, so in my adventures around NSW I have yet to see another 110 HCPU.. and was wondering...does anyone else on here have one??

Maybe that's why I don't get many waves back...:confused::confused:

There's a charcoal grey one with beige canvas canopy in the Hunter Valley - maybe in Cessnock - I used to see it on the way to work a bit.

[debruiser]

I saw one hanging around in Mackay a while back, was a really nice black truck with a canvas top and hoops on the tub.... haven't seen it of late but then again I haven't been driving the same roads.

[Felix]

Yeah ok thats interesting. I guess they are an expensive option when new (mines a 300tdi not a puma). And lack of cab space is a shortfall too.

Anyway. Its nice being unique haha

[Dopey]

G'day Felix,
I went to the 4x4 super show thingy at Rosehill last Tuesday, and the only Land rover Defenders that I saw there (apart from my 90) was two 110's.

One was a 110 HCPU with a Ifor Williams canopy on it, it was a TDCI model (puma) and with the canopy on it, probably a private import.
It looked like it had quite a bit of work done to it (lots of equipment and stuff).

The other 110 was a single cab tray back (steel tray) with Defender painted down the sides of the doors in big red writing.

Normally at the show I see heaps of Defenders, just not this year?

The HCPU 110 is only the second one that I can remember seeing in Australia.
I used to quite often see yours in the Chatswood area.

Regards,
Mike.

[FeatherWeightDriver]

Maybe that's why I don't get many waves back...:confused::confused:

I would wave at you :)

[windsock]

Yes, I now have one but am in NZ. Mine originally had a flat deck but a few months back I fitted an old and battered HCPU retrieved off a scrapheap for scrap value. A few of the corner angle joins were broken in the rear end so fitted a new steel tail to the deck to bind the sides and rear together again and used this to mount it to the truck. I made the tailgate removable too which has many advantages. Mounted the deck about 30mm or so further back on the chassis so I could place a roll bar in between cab and HCPU deck. I like the transition from flat deck to HCPU. Flat deck was high and heavy. There is 240kg of difference in truck weight going from one to the other lighter option.

[JDNSW]

It is interesting to speculate why the trayback has almost entirely replaced the well type tray on working utilities in Australia. This started to happen in the 1960s, and was virtually complete by the end of the seventies. Not just Landrover, but almost all other makes.

My guess, for what it is worth, is the introduction of forklift handling of the sort of goods that are transported in these vehicles, replacing manual handling. For example, I go to the local rural supply place here, and anything I buy that weighs more than about 20kg comes out to the ute on a forklift. And it is a lot easier to load a tray than a well that way, as you can do it from the side. Same if I go into Bunnings, for example to buy half a dozen bags of cement etc.

John

[debruiser]

It is interesting to speculate why the trayback has almost entirely replaced the well type tray on working utilities in Australia. This started to happen in the 1960s, and was virtually complete by the end of the seventies. Not just Landrover, but almost all other makes.

My guess, for what it is worth, is the introduction of forklift handling of the sort of goods that are transported in these vehicles, replacing manual handling. For example, I go to the local rural supply place here, and anything I buy that weighs more than about 20kg comes out to the ute on a forklift. And it is a lot easier to load a tray than a well that way, as you can do it from the side. Same if I go into Bunnings, for example to buy half a dozen bags of cement etc.

John

Good and very valid point! But I've never had bunnings load my cement! I purchased 30 bags one day.... had to load them all myself, they just stood there and watch me.

[dromader driver]

I believe the real reason is the development of aluminium trays. Low mass, carry anything within reason and star pickets don't as easily go through the later generation ones. My tray is steel as it came with the truck. Kids have ali and I know it is a lot lighter.

[JDNSW]

I believe the real reason is the development of aluminium trays. Low mass, carry anything within reason and star pickets don't as easily go through the later generation ones. My tray is steel as it came with the truck. Kids have ali and I know it is a lot lighter.

I don't think so - the change was well under way by 1970 when alloy trays were very rare. Nearly all the Series 3 lwb utes (probably the biggest seller) had steel trays, either built by Leyland Australia or for local distributors or dealers.

John

[cjc_td5]

It is interesting to speculate why the trayback has almost entirely replaced the well type tray on working utilities in Australia. This started to happen in the 1960s, and was virtually complete by the end of the seventies. Not just Landrover, but almost all other makes.

My guess, for what it is worth, is the introduction of forklift handling of the sort of goods that are transported in these vehicles, replacing manual handling. For example, I go to the local rural supply place here, and anything I buy that weighs more than about 20kg comes out to the ute on a forklift. And it is a lot easier to load a tray than a well that way, as you can do it from the side. Same if I go into Bunnings, for example to buy half a dozen bags of cement etc.

John


Good observations John.
In my opinion, a trayback utility is so much more functional than a wellback ute. Though probably not common back in the 70s, a trayback ute can be fitted with a tipping mechanism, which a wellback ute cannot. The sides can be removed from a trayback deck to create a wide platform for overwidth loads (think haybales) or a nice work platform to work off in the paddock. The only negative I can think of a trayback ute is the load sits higher than a wellback ute, where the load sits between the wheelarches.

To the OP, I have only ever seen one 110" HCPU in Bunbury, a rare beast.

Cheers,

[juddy]

Very rare , maybe 20 of the puma hcpu sold here. And no longer any more sales of this model ceased last month.

I did read the series 3 was available as a hicap here but never seen one.

[Felix]

I definitely agree that the tray was more functional- I could strap stuff down easier, hit stuff with it when offroad, I clamped things to it and used it as a vice, loaded it up with firewood and didn't worry about it being dented/scratched and my bike fitted a bit better in it.

BUT

Since I put larger tyres and longer travel suspension with more uptravel (gwyn lewis challenge kit), I had to raise the tray by about 3.5". As I am not a tall man, and I have a large dog, I found loading him into the tray was all but impossible without doing my back in. I also found it difficult to reach anything in my toolbox. The solution? Find a HCPU rear tub.. somehow, by the alignment of the planets, I managed to find and purchase two within a month of each other in Sydney. And another in the UK.. which is still there....right Juddy haha.

It is now so much easier to load things as the deck height is much lower, and the wheel wells allow for more uptravel. Also, people have no idea what it is and it always gets a conversation out in the bush. I do miss being able to throw firewood in the back and not care though :(

[JDNSW]

As suggested, for many uses the flat tray is more useful, so the only question is perhaps not why it became more common, but why it was not always more common. A possible reason is that the flat tray is heavier and more expensive, and so only became more popular as engine power and prosperity increased.

A related question of course is why the same factors operating in Australia did not apply in the UK, where the HCPU is apparently quite popular, and traybacks uncommon.

Or in the USA for that matter!

John

[juddy]

As suggested, for many uses the flat tray is more useful, so the only question is perhaps not why it became more common, but why it was not always more common. A possible reason is that the flat tray is heavier and more expensive, and so only became more popular as engine power and prosperity increased.

A related question of course is why the same factors operating in Australia did not apply in the UK, where the HCPU is apparently quite popular, and traybacks uncommon.

Or in the USA for that matter!

John

Nearly $10,000 new for a HCPU tub, flatbed tray around $4k?

[isuzutoo-eh]

I saw a new road-grey HCPU 110 2.4tdci at Trivetts a few years ago. Since then I have seen one other, a white one, parked at one of the cafes along Bell's Line of Road, probably late last year or early this year and figured it was probably yours Alex.

[Felix]

The road grey one was probably bought by a member here, which I bought his tub off him and subsequently sold it to another bloke with a green workshop 110.

Yep that wouldve been mine on bells line. Was it quite wet that day?

[isuzutoo-eh]

The road grey one was probably bought by a member here, which I bought his tub off him and subsequently sold it to another bloke with a green workshop 110.

Yep that wouldve been mine on bells line. Was it quite wet that day?

Yeah, too wet to stop and have a sticky beak, that was for sure!

[travelrover]

There is a white 130 dual cab I see a lot around the Hawkesbury. In fact it was in Kurrajong village on Sunday, just across the road from a coffee shop. Pretty sure it had P plates on :-)

[disco96]

This is a photo of my MY2010 HCPU after arriving home from Adelaide in May 2010. I have since added a bulbar, canopy, tow bar. Plus a few more bits and pieces. Since I have had it it has done 93,500 k's mostly towing a 2.5 tonne caravan.





https://www.flickr.com/photos/23365126@N03/4638598786/in/photostream/

[PTC]

I have been sent away to work at the power station again for a few weeks and there is a black Puma 110 HCPU here at Yallourn on night shift. I had a good look at it this afternoon and wow the tub is small. Coming from a 130 with a tub. I dont know how i would fit all my gear in there. Though the car looks great and turning circle too would be a whole lot better. I'll grab a pic one night if i remember.

[Samblers]

Theres a sweet (Orkney?) grey Puma 110 HCPU knocking around the western burbs of Perth. The tub has been fitted with a checkerplate lid fitted with a couple of bike-carrying racks. Looks like a pretty handy set-up.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Whilst I don't have a 110 HCPU , I do have its cousin... A 110DC :)

[TonyC]

I have been sent away to work at the power station again for a few weeks and there is a black Puma 110 HCPU here at Yallourn on night shift. I had a good look at it this afternoon and wow the tub is small. Coming from a 130 with a tub. I dont know how i would fit all my gear in there. Though the car looks great and turning circle too would be a whole lot better. I'll grab a pic one night if i remember.

Hi PTC,
If the tub on the one you saw is smaller than your 130 the it's not a 110 HCPU (High Capacity Pick Up).

The 110 HCPUs are all single cabs and they have the a larger version of the 130 Crew Cab tub. IE: the tub is separate from the cab and overhangs the chassis.

There is a Crew Cab 110 but it's not a HCPU.

The single cab 130 whilst High Capacity is not a Pick Up it's a cab chassis.

Tony

[windsock]

This is a photo of my MY2010 HCPU ...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/23365126@N03/4638598786/in/photostream/



Sorry image not working for me. Is it a complete link?