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discovery39
9th May 2014, 09:17 AM
Seems the Fans are winning the battle for a 'proper' sounding F1 car.
Will be interesting to see how they sound. Or rather, what sort of noise they will make.
Not the most credible source for information, but it will do for now......Until I find a better source of Information.
Nico Rosberg says louder 'megaphone' engines will be tested after Spanish GP | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-2623309/Nico-Rosberg-says-louder-megaphone-engines-tested-Spanish-GP.html)
Gerokent
9th May 2014, 09:30 AM
Not only F1 cars, but some new cars are coming out with sound generators built in so they sound like real cars, and the sound changes depending what mode you select ie. sport mode, economy mode ect.
What is the world coming to?
It really ****es me off when manufactures try for less emissions, better fuel economy and the rest, and they turn around and put this stupid **** into cars. Makes me wonder how much emissions are being created by manufacturing this sort of stuff.
Do they care about climate change? Like **** they do!
The whole thing is a crock!
discovery39
9th May 2014, 09:43 AM
From memory the R34 Skylines had a butterfly valve in the rear of the exhaust to change the note, via a switch on the dash.
They say the Emissions used in making a Prius, far out way the benefits of having such a vehicle......
Here's another link........(more credible) (in my humble opinion)
Mercedes to test F1 exhaust set-up aimed at making cars louder - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113829)
Benz
9th May 2014, 10:33 AM
plenty of cars (well sporty kinds of cars) these days have dynamic exhaust systems with quiet and "LOOK AT ME" settings.
I think they are more commonly an aftermarket thing though.
The idea of a quiet race car sounds a little silly though
Edit: ah so they are quieter because the F1's now run turbos?
Dynamic car exhausts are kind of irrelevant then.
discovery39
9th May 2014, 07:24 PM
Yes, a quiet race car is rather silly.
Yes, the high end Mercs, Porsches, that sort of thing have a "variable" exhaust system on them.
RE: your edit, not coz they are now turbo, but part of the overall design of the big new ,1.6 format......;)
Chucaro
9th May 2014, 07:42 PM
Talking about exhaust systems the 406 V6 in Peugeot and Citroen have a factory fitted rear silencer (muffler) which made the car very quite.
Replacing it by a free flow one there is a gain of not less than 15 HP and better torque range which in turn gives better economy.
discovery39
9th May 2014, 07:44 PM
Talking about exhaust systems the 406 V6 in Peugeot and Citroen have a factory fitted rear silencer (muffler) which made the car very quite.
Replacing it by a free flow one there is a gain of not less than 15 HP and better torque range which in turn gives better economy.
Sounds like the Freelander V6. Take off the rear muff, and you have a better sounding rocket!:eek:
ramblingboy42
9th May 2014, 08:10 PM
I can't believe all the whingeing about something as basic as the exhaust note of an F1 car.
thats what a V6 sounds like.
they've done the right thing to the series and brought back some racing into it.
V6 holdens racing sound like that...
what's the problem?
discovery39
9th May 2014, 08:16 PM
I can't believe all the whingeing about something as basic as the exhaust note of an F1 car.
thats what a V6 sounds like.
they've done the right thing to the series and brought back some racing into it.
V6 holdens racing sound like that...
what's the problem?
Seriously, V6's don't sound like that. How many 1.6ltr Turbo V6's do you know?? I've got a V6 Freelander (minus a rear muff) that sounds w a y better than they do. ....
More to the point, how many 1.6 V6's do you know at all.....??
Chucaro
9th May 2014, 08:26 PM
Well the Lexus is250 is not a 1600 engine, it is a bit bigger and it sounds like is it have a severe combustion diarrhea.
There is nothing like the V12 Ferrari sound :cool:
Lexus is250 w/ Greddy SE Exhaust (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeesBK_RwSo)
discovery39
9th May 2014, 08:29 PM
Well the Lexus is250 is not a 1600 engine, it is a bit bigger and it sounds like is it have a severe combustion diarrhea.
There is nothing like the V12 Ferrari sound :cool:
Lexus is250 w/ Greddy SE Exhaust (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeesBK_RwSo)
Hell yeah! Nice one.
discovery39
9th May 2014, 08:31 PM
Hell yeah! Nice one.
Tis a bit hard though, with the car just sitting there. Need it under load to fully test........Cruising hard at least.....not just down the road:)
PAT303
9th May 2014, 09:06 PM
If you want the best exhaust note possible listen to a Jaguar F type. Pat
clubagreenie
10th May 2014, 02:06 AM
1uz V8 Supra - Dyno Tune 3 - set 9300rpm rev limit - YouTube (http://youtu.be/URRZKze21BU)
If I can make the above sound like it does using a minimum of a/market bits there's no reason on their budget they can't do something about it. That said, it's evolution. The 80's turbos were 4cy 1 to 1.5 litre and sounded beautiful. But they weren't rev limited, thats part of the issue. Open them up and see what they do. But then you have the initiative of longevity. Who would have thought in the 80's that engines would have to last 5 races including qualifying.
ramblingboy42
10th May 2014, 08:36 AM
ummm...discovery39...V6's DO sound like that'
I don't know what you have listened to, but remember Formula Holden?
currently at speedway is a class called wingless sprints....they use the holden V6....they sound like the F1 V6's.
back in the old folky days when mates had V6 Capri's with sports systems on them....thats what they sounded like as well.
what V6 have you been listening to?
even the 92 series detroit V6 truck engines have that similar sound
get used to it or don't watch it.
discovery39
10th May 2014, 10:24 AM
With all due respect. The whole point of this thread is/was to highlight the fact that none of us have to get used to it now...
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