Disco 2 sales, what's going on

[joel0407]

I've noticed a few Discos for sale lately for I would consider give away prices and they don't seem to be selling.

One TD5 2003 for $8500 and another with motor problems at $2500.

I paid $13,000 for mine about 18 months ago. I've put a heap into it new suspension, tyres, winch, etc and not that many KM but I still think it's worth less than $12,000. Going of the prices of these others and their still not moving, I worried it's not even worth that.

I'd love to buy the one with the motor issue just for the Manual Gear box but fund are low at the momnet. Hopefully one will come up like this when funds are back up. Surely the one with the motor issue would be worth well over that in parts.

Happy Days.

[Disco Muppet]

They're 10 years old at the youngest, with a host of known problems that turn the general public a whiter shade of pale.
It's why I'm not overly worried about what happens to mine, because I'm not going to sell it. If the gearbox blows up, stick a new one in. Etc.
Look at what a P38 cost to buy new, and what they cost now.

[rangietragic]

Yeah,i paid $27000 for mine about 6 years ago,coming up for sale soon,be lucky to get $8000 for it:(

[phibbzy]

2002 TD5 low KM down here at the moment for $7200ONO and a 2000 V8 for $5000!

I was asking the same question :confused: Thems D1 figures!

[Disco Muppet]

I've seen more asked for a D1 V8 than for a D2 Td5....
they're not THAT bad

[lro11]

I sold my 2002 td5 18 months ago for 20k I thought that was pretty good.

[LandyAndy]

They are worth nothing.
Bought mine for $15000 when they were $25000+ 8 or so years ago.
Dont expect to get much at all for mine when I sell it privately to move up to a modern Disco.
Andrew

[350RRC]

My 74 2 door RRC is going up in value, even with the lump of iron under the bonnet.

I think that part of the problem with Discos is that they will never end up being viewed as 'classic' cars and the 'refinements' that involve having to use over 50 separate fuses actually scare buyers away now they are all out of warranty.

The other thing to consider is that Discos are basically re-bodied RR's anyway.

My ex has a series 2 Disco (last of the rectangular headlights) and it is nowhere near as pleasant to drive around in as a RRC, for example.

DL

[plaven]

Interesting to see the prices.... I think if you're a hands on person, then there's little to worry about.. you'll get the work done yourself.

However, if like me you're a bit tentative to try some of the work, then it's going to cost a fortune when things go wrong.

$7000 to buy, then nearly $6000 getting head redone and tracing a few weird problems.

Last oil change cost me $2000 because the rear brakes were toast and the water pump was found to be leaking.

I'm still yet to get the thing dirty (mostly because of kids and other weekend commitments) but when you're leaving hockey only to find starting the car up it goes into limp home mode and it's 70k's down the highway, you're left wondering if the damn thing is reliable enough to even take past the city limits....

Don't get me wrong, I like the D2, but with 275k kms on the clock and not getting anything done myself on the vehicle, it's a costly thing to keep on the road. :(

I keep wondering if it's the same for the other makers, if it's just an age thing.

Of course hanging out here you often only see the issues.... :)

I think I just need to find someone who spins spanners and doesn't mind me helping them out to learn a few things to get my confidence up with doing more of the maintenance and fixing of the car.

[joel0407]

It just seems like they have taken a bigger than usuall drop in price in the last 12 months or so.

I have a very good mate that bought a 100 series cruiser about 2 months after I bought my Disco. Both are 2002 models, one with 163,000km the other with 165,000km. He paid $33,000, I paid $13,000. Now I personally thought the cruiser was a much better vehicle than my Disco but not $20,000 better. I have since decided it's hardly better at all.

I still think at $10,000 - $15,000 for a Disco 2 TD5 and maybe $8,000 - $12,000 for the V8 is very good value.

We are both getting ready for a upcoming trip and loading everything up and fitting all the options. In adding Bull Bar, Rock Sliders, Rear bar with dual tyre carries and a Roof Rack, he is over GVM. I don't have a rear bar or rock sliders but I have a winch and heavy winch craddle behind my bull bar but fully loaded, I'm 260kg under GVM.

Because of his IFS he cant lift his cruiser. He had Tough Dog springs designed to carry 300kg in the rear but they were hardly enough so now he has gone to spring designed for the 105 series cruiser designed to carry 500kg.

Even with the extra problems Land Rovers bring, I still think they represent good value.

Happy Days.

[mike123]

IMO the price drop in the D2s is most likely driven by the perceived maintenance costs and people's fear of paying too much in maintenance vs the cost of the vehicle.

If you consider the average decent mechanic charges $120/hour or more in Sydney then it doesn't take long to rack up $1000 in labour only, Then add to that shop supplies, disposal of oils and parts you can see how quickly it adds up. Years ago more people did their own maintenance, the cars were simpler then - less electronics. At the end of they didn't see the need to go to a mechanic. Their approach was why pay someone to do something that they could do.

If you can tackle some of the basics for maintenance and repairs then that reduces the pain in the wallet when something major happens - a bit like saving for a rainy day. To what level you do the basics is driven by how much you know mechanically, how much you want to learn and how much you have to spend.

At the end of the day the D2s are still very capable for their age. Unfortunately if you are trying to sell one then that isn't being reflected in the current used prices.

[scarry]

My D2a TD5 with 105k on the clock went for $17k 3 months ago.
And the phone rang continually,could have sold it twice.

[wardy1]

$7000 to buy, then nearly $6000 getting head redone and tracing a few weird problems.

Find another mechanic!
Head gasket and head is about $2k, not $6k!
I got a rebuild of my auto in my previous car for about $5k.
You're getting seriously ripped!

[plaven]

$7000 to buy, then nearly $6000 getting head redone and tracing a few weird problems.

Find another mechanic!
Head gasket and head is about $2k, not $6k!
I got a rebuild of my auto in my previous car for about $5k.
You're getting seriously ripped!

To be fair it wasn't just the head. All hoses and radiator replaced due to gunk in the coolant to stop leaks.

Labour is $130 odd per hour. The greatest cost is nearly always labour.

[ramblingboy42]

mmm a D2 can now be 15 years old......mine has 350k, all the plastic trim is starting to crack.

one thing after another is needing repair / replacement.....this not a whinge....just fact

the once beautiful paintwork now looks like it has been into the bush

I was recently offered $4500 trade in for it....on presentation probably a good price.

on driveability and off road capability and reliability I felt insulted.....but if someone else is buying it they will also buy it on presentation.

I think those prices are all ends up very realistic......even though I dont want to accept them for mine.

[twr7cx]

It's interesting comparing them to Defender pricing. I originally wanted to buy a Defender TD5 but couldn't justify the significant price difference over my TD5 HSE D2a (which was also much more comfortable and better on road manners). You could buy two D2's for the equivalent era Defender (despite the same motor) or you could just buy one and spend a fair bit on it...

[Wasa57]

The other side of the coin is that declining Disco td5 prices, and panic sales, should translate into plenty of relatively cheap parts.
Those of us who soldier on with our beloved Discos will be the (long-suffering) beneficiaries.

-Waz

[Fast Freddie]

My D2a with 105k on the clock went for $17k 3 months ago.
And the phone rang continually,could have sold it twice.

These numbers look pretty realistic for the current market. The main difference seems to be fuel type, kilometers and the update (in 2003).
You will be very lucky to pick a 2003/4 Td5 with less than 200,000ks for instance, for less than $15,000 (although I missed one early in my search).
V8s may be a different story.

[ozscott]

A d1 is similar to a RRC.A d2 is not.

They are terrific value second hand. Ive owned mine since new and keep adding to it. I still dont know another vehicle new or not with such a great mix of off road biased comfort. They are becoming quite a sought after truck for the thinking off road enthusiast. The amount and choice of aftermarket and custom stuff for them is crazy. Cheers

[Outback 1]

These numbers look pretty realistic for the current market. The main difference seems to be fuel type, kilometers and the update (in 2003).
You will be very lucky to pick a 2003/4 Td5 with less than 200,000ks for instance, for less than $15,000 (although I missed one early in my search).
V8s may be a different story.

2003 d2a v8 on fleabay yesterday went off no bids or rego $3500 no takers

[ozscott]

You would expect that. No one buy sight unseen...could have had a chassis full of rust. Mate bought a steal of a 2003 d2a auto base model completely stock with 110,000k for $10k neat recently in qld. The right vehicle will still sell well. Immaculate and well maintained sells.

Cheers

[ozscott]

As for comparo with a deefer I could have bought a deefer for marginally more than my d2 off the floor. Now the deefer would be worth more than the price difference at the time but I like a bit of comfort and I don't like the milk truck sound of an oil burner so I don't worry about the difference I'm depreciation.

Cheers

[CaptAwsm]

This is why I'm glad I paid $5k for mine a year ago. 265~kms, arb bullbar, snorkel, Coopers AT tyres. Laughing. Spent a bit more cash into it now, but I'm
Not expecting to get it all back. But as someone said, I don't plan on selling it either!

[schuy1]

Paid 11 for my '02 TD5 2 1/2 year ago 213 on the clock , stocker, had never been off the tar! another 2 on bar,tyres,some roadworthy stuff, Just perfect for what I want, so think its cheap :) but dont plan on selling either. And yes lower prices reflect perceived problems, people jumping up a model as D3/4's start on the 2nd hand trail, less demand etc.
Cheers Scott

[elshano]

As was said, the oldest are now getting up to 15 years.

You could argue if the things going on them are aged-based 'consumables' (fuel pumps, heads, ACE ram, cats) but realistically they're going to need continuous $$ spent on them once they hit a certain age ie now.

My mrs really isn't happy with what we've had to spend on mine recently.
The question is, do you keep going until you basically end up with a new car?

Me, as much as I dearly love the thing I will be making a hard decision before the end of this financial year. And will probably end up with a new D-Max in the driveway.

[Pinelli]

I think the comment about D3/4s coming down in price 2nd hand is probably on the money. If I could afford it, I would love to upgrade from my D2 to a D3. Not that there's is anything really wrong with the D2 I've got. It's just got to that age where something needs doing every couple of months.

I'll probably manage to afford it once the D3s start getting to that certain age when bits start failing and something needs doing every 6 months or so ;)

[brenno]

Sounds like I got out just at the right time... Still didn't quite get the price I was chasing though.

[Expatdisco3]

It's because land rover Australia had a new car sale promotion at the beginning of the new year. There have been a lot of disco 2 trade in's swamping the used car market. Mainly due to the dealers wholesaling them.

[justinc]

$7000 to buy, then nearly $6000 getting head redone and tracing a few weird problems.

Find another mechanic!
Head gasket and head is about $2k, not $6k!
I got a rebuild of my auto in my previous car for about $5k.
You're getting seriously ripped!


:oNot so fast grasshopper, head gasket replacement on a Td5 Disco, $2300 drive in drive out. Radiator and all hoses etc a FURTHER $900. A new head add approx $3000 to $4000. (This is upgrading to EU3 AMC type...requires different FPR etc also but a better option IME)

JC

[AussieAub]

Bought my 2000 D2 V8 Auto in 2008 for $16k, sold just last month with LOTS of fruit, and receipts way into the 5 digit $$'s figure, and managed to sell for a tad over $3k. :(
Couldn't get much more as (even with receipts showing that just about everything had been replaced) people just assumed that because its a Disco V8 the heads must be shot and the vehicle is tarred with rumours of them being unreliable, too expensive to keep and maintain, over thirsty, hard to get parts, etc, etc.

Somebody has a GREAT motor there now.
But I treated myself to a brand new Defender, so all good. :cool:

[JDNSW]

My 74 2 door RRC is going up in value, even with the lump of iron under the bonnet.

I think that part of the problem with Discos is that they will never end up being viewed as 'classic' cars and the 'refinements' that involve having to use over 50 separate fuses actually scare buyers away now they are all out of warranty.

The other thing to consider is that Discos are basically re-bodied RR's anyway.

My ex has a series 2 Disco (last of the rectangular headlights) and it is nowhere near as pleasant to drive around in as a RRC, for example.

DL

The Disco 2 is not a rebodied RRC, even basically. The Disco 1 is.

The Disco 2 is a completely new car, admittedly of "similar" design, and very similar styling. It was produced only for a relatively short time and shares few parts with any other model, including its successor, leaving it as a potential orphan. It has very complex systems (like most modern cars) which make it wide likely to suffer complex (i.e. expensive) problems. Same situation as a P38, but mollified a bit because far more of them were sold.

Part of the general syndrome with luxury cars - those who can afford to maintain them, can afford to buy new, and usually do. So this makes them very cheap by the time they get out of warranty, and especially once they reach ten years or more in age.

This tends not to apply so much to Defenders and RRCs, as these both had very long production runs and were/are a lot easier (cheaper) to maintain.

I have recently got a Disco 2 TD5 for my son, at what I consider a reasonable price (as with any purchase of a S/H car, "reasonable" depends on condition. I would actually have preferred a D1 for the reasons given above, but I was unable to find a suitable one, and this one was too good to miss. Unlike some of the other ones I looked at!

John

[joel0407]

It was produced only for a relatively short time and shares few parts with any other model, including its successor, leaving it as a potential orphan. It has very complex systems (like most modern cars) which make it wide likely to suffer complex (i.e. expensive) problems. Same situation as a P38, but mollified a bit because far more of them were sold.

Thanks. That's an excellent explaination.

The reason that I started the thread though was I've noticed a sharp drop in the last 12 months. It seams that prices have dropped near 1/3 in the past 12 months.

Happy Days.

[JDNSW]

Thanks. That's an excellent explaination.

The reason that I started the thread though was I've noticed a sharp drop in the last 12 months. It seams that prices have dropped near 1/3 in the past 12 months.

Happy Days.

Probably as some D3s start to drop into the price range they were at. But also new car prices have come down, and this affects the prices of second hand cars (not of course "classics").

John

[ozscott]

I dont agree that the d2 is complex . I own a d1 and d2. A base model d2 is pretty simple really. They are excellent value for money. Cheers

[LR V8]

I bought a Puma last Nov, so I gave the D2 a big detail over the Xmas break and put it up for sale from Jan to Mar... $10k neg....only one sniff & that was a no show.

With a recently rebuilt clutch, gearbox and transfer case the D2 actualy drives better around town than the Puma. So much so in fact, I'm going to keep it as a daily driver and use the Puma on the weekends & 4wd trips (I do a few).

No complaints.... but yes (in my view) the D2 market has dropped about 3-4k in the last 6 months.

:)

Pete

[JDNSW]

I dont agree that the d2 is complex . I own a d1 and d2. A base model d2 is pretty simple really. They are excellent value for money. Cheers

I agree - which is why I just bought one. But I still consider them complex - like most modern cars. The price drop reflects the market's balancing complexity etc against value, and is what makes them excellent value for money.

John

[plaven]

Further to this thread, my wife convinced me to go take a look at the new Land Rovers in the local dealers as she's convinced the D2 is not reliable enough to do any level of travel in (and to be fair given the issues I don't blame her).

Of course I wasn't overly interested, the D2 is running fine, I know it's an older car and anything new is going to cost a small fortune.

The first shock was hers. The price of the new D4 is in the 6 figures. Score one for me.

The second shock was mine. I asked what they do with the trade ins, ie the D1 and D2's and the guy told me they have a long waiting list, which is why there are none on the lot.

So given the concern and the price drop with the D2's it seems there is still a market for them. I didn't ask the going prices, he just told me that currently when a D2 comes in, they check it to comply with LR's requirements, then call the list and it's a fairly quick and painless sale. There's something like 10-15 people on that list.

Not sure it adds much value to the thread, but I thought it interesting nonetheless. :)

[tailslide]

Bought my 2000 D2 V8 Auto in 2008 for $16k, sold just last month with LOTS of fruit, and receipts way into the 5 digit $$'s figure, and managed to sell for a tad over $3k. :(
Couldn't get much more as (even with receipts showing that just about everything had been replaced) people just assumed that because its a Disco V8 the heads must be shot and the vehicle is tarred with rumours of them being unreliable, too expensive to keep and maintain, over thirsty, hard to get parts, etc, etc.

Somebody has a GREAT motor there now.
But I treated myself to a brand new Defender, so all good. :cool:

I was going to ask if you still had the old girl. I could have swapped my plastic rear end with your magnificent metal bar and a fist full of folding stuff.:angel: Not to worry. :angel:

Cheers
Ron

[DaveP]

I think it all depends on where you go.
I bought an '01 TD5 base with 190,000 and a mate picked up another '01 with leather, ACE, SLS and 18's with 160,000 for $7800, whereas I've seen similar cars in used lots going for close to $20k (recently too).
A guy I met on a 4wd trip has an '03 with close to 300k on it and he paid $14500 for it this year.
I saw one on Carsales recently that was an '03 with 120,000, fully specced and with a couple of nice mods (Sahara bar, winch etc) for a stonking $29,000 and I nearly fell off my chair! You can buy a really nice D3 for that!
I think wholesalers are the place to go because they get all the trade-ins from people upgrading to new D4's.

[DI5CO]

The Disco 2 is not a rebodied RRC, even basically. The Disco 1 is.

The Disco 2 is a completely new car, admittedly of "similar" design, and very similar styling.

John

I don't think the 2 is a completely new car. Similar to D3 to D4, Golf 5 to Golf 6.
Same chassis underneath.
After owing a D1, there are too many similarities. Rear door is the same, center console, door frames etc. although the cars don't drive the same, they do feel very different.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Discovery

Dave.

[NobbyTD5]

Well …it doesn't worry me as I reckon
If you not selling - it doesn't really matter!
My 2001 Td5 has low Km and over the past 6 yrs hasn't cost me much at all as nothing has gone wrong at all
never not started and has never stopped on the road or had any issues.
I will say it isn't my daily driver so that might make a difference

Second hand spare parts seem to be getting cheaper as they are being parted out …I have even thought of buying a second D2 for spares..

I find it is a great car for towing boats and for sand etc

Most cars depreciate and mine has gone from 16K to perhaps 8-10k over the past 6 years which is low on the depreciation scale to me

If you have even moderate mechanical ability the D2's are quite easy to maintain and the major components are quite reasonable priced second hand

reliability as a daily driver might be a problem if not well maintained
might actually be a good time to find a low Km well kitted out D2???

An alternative view….

cheers
Nobby

[Spudlynicholas]

But no matter what vehicle you buy, lr, toyota, ferrari, holden or bmw... At ten years they are worth a fraction of new price. Ten years after that they are starting to end up on the scrapheap even if still running fine.

And you either pay the depreciation and monetary opportunity cost on a new car, or maintenance on an old one.

A sad fact, cars cost money, it just varies a bit on how much it will cost.

I will drive my D2a until i get bored of it or something happens I don't want to fix. Then I'll buy what I can afford with cash I've saved on not leasing a newer car (12k a year on a family 4wd) and do it again.:D

[Spudlynicholas]

amend previous post...ferrari will likely _not_ end up on the scrapheap!

[DiscoDB]

I have been tempted to pick up a 2nd D2 just for the spares. The TD5 motor is only just run in at 100,000 kms. (-;


David
'02 Td5 Disco

[JDNSW]

I don't think the 2 is a completely new car. Similar to D3 to D4, Golf 5 to Golf 6.
Same chassis underneath.
After owing a D1, there are too many similarities. Rear door is the same, center console, door frames etc. although the cars don't drive the same, they do feel very different.
Land Rover Discovery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Discovery)

Dave.

New front axle, new rear suspension linkage, new and different hubs, different wheel mounting, new engine (TD5), new computer systems. I did say similar! This means that very few of the mechanical (or, for that matter body) parts that you are likely to have to replace are interchangeable with any other model. The only notable exceptions being the diffs and gearbox/TC.

John

[sew350]

the better value is why i just bought my 1999 td5 manual. Although its got 360k's on the clock it goes like a rocket and does every thing i need. Paid $4.5 3 months ago. I really did want a wagon, but the Jap offerings in turbo diesel of same year and turbo diesel are double and triple the price. and there is the ticking time bomb in the gu diesel that can blow and cost a packet at any time after 150'ks. and i get cruise control which none of the others have till way after 99. so i have accessorised and now ordered the last thing i need which is the true trac lsd's. ready for the cape and the high country.

[ozscott]

New front axle, new rear suspension linkage, new and different hubs, different wheel mounting, new engine (TD5), new computer systems. I did say similar! This means that very few of the mechanical (or, for that matter body) parts that you are likely to have to replace are interchangeable with any other model. The only notable exceptions being the diffs and gearbox/TC.

John

Mate even the ZF auto is different - electronic controlled. I have owned a d1 since 2001 and a d2 since 2002 and have worked a lot on both. They are very different.

Also I agree about complexity when compared to pre petrol fuel injection and abs vehicles.
Cheers

[Roberto]

You don't buy a D2 as an investment vehicle. I bought mine over ten years ago because I loved Land Rovers and the D2 continued the tradition of exceptional capability, comfort, and slight quirkiness. The TD5 engine was flexible and economical.

Since then the market has moved more in the direction of SUV. If I were to replace the D2 today my only choices for a real off road vehicle would be the Defender, the Jeep Wrangler, and the Toyota VJD76 workmate. One other option would be to keep the D2 and just keep it going. I decided to do this because the Toyota only offers a heavy V8 manual, the Wrangler is not as comfortable and the Defender is too agricultural (although I could learn to live with it).

I just spent $7000 on doing mine up - yes, more than it is actually worth, and equivalent to a years payments on a new vehicle. But I'm hoping it will see me out, so ultimately a cheaper option than dropping 30 or 40k on a new vehicle.

[ozscott]

Absolutely mate. I have spent twice that on mine in the last 40k because I love driving it and adding to its ability and looks. I know I have over capitalised it to buggery and I could have had a d4 on lease for well over a year or a Ranger etc for 2 years but I am just not interested. I still look forward to driving her. The bilstein suspension and 5 way HSEseats and wheel have made her very sweet to drive ...mod cons of Kenwood digital radio and built in Bluetooth etc really bring her up to date and off road she is a weapon.

Cheers

[Statusquo]

[QUOTE=Roberto;2153742]You don't buy a D2 as an investment vehicle. I bought mine over ten years ago because I loved Land Rovers and the D2 continued the tradition of exceptional capability, comfort, and slight quirkiness.

Absolutely..I bought my first 4 years ago, a D2a V8 with around 95k's on board..I've spend over $10k on suspension upgrades, cooling system work and the three amigos over that time, now at 166km's and I have a good vehicle that really is too good to sell..so I will keep adding to it and increasing its versatility...and my smile widens everytime I drive:D

[mrapocalypse]

When our D2 had a wobbly we looked around.

For LC 100 series cruiser we were looking at 35 to 40 K with 150,000 on the clock.

Now if I spent half that on my D2 V8 well then WHOA. That would be one hell of a machine.

So we fixed ours and are happy. It's still a great car. We just keep our RACQ ultimate package up to date. :p

[elshano]

G'day blokes, just thought I'd tack a post on the end of this one.
Like mrapocalypse above, we've come to the same conclusion - can't bear to part with the bl%$dy thing!

Have done: head gaskets, fuel pump, ACE ram, tie rods, springs and shocks, front driveshaft, rebuild alternator. Probably more but that's all I can think of for now

Need to do: replace cats (gonna get them cut out and weld a pair of highflows in - can't delete them as the ECU will have a hissy fit), new clutch, real seal on transfer case, fix 3 amigos (intermittent and as yet undiagnosed), new starter (buy off ebay for 170), replace rear bar (smashed up back LHS) with higher clearance steel item.

Anything else you gurus can think of while I'm there? Plan is to take it off the road and borrow a car so I can get all this done in one hit

[Disco Muppet]

4.6
2" Lift
33s
4.11 R&P
Ashcroft F+R Airlockers

That should do for the time being :p :thumbsup:

Seriously though.
Get the transfer case sorted properly. A sleeved casing is the way to go, it'll be coming out for the clutch anyway so might as well. Gives a chance for the centre diff shims to be checked over as well.

You'll be good to go then :)

[elshano]

Already got the lift - what happened to the Sub 32 club hey??

Xfer case, got it. Cheers.
Gonna see if I can sneak in while it's on the hoist and make a dodgy CDL lever too

[Disco Muppet]

I has drawn plans for DIY CDL lever, happy to share if you like? :)

Meh. **** what everyone else thinks, do what makes you happy ;)

[LandyAndy]

Mine is listed in the markets section.
I realise I wont get anything like what I have advertised it for.
Great vehicle for those looking for a well sorted and loved D2.
Open to all offers,any too rude will be considered BRIEFLY;);););););)
Andrew
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/vehicles-sale/198510-wa-1999-td5-discovery-2-manual.html

[elshano]

Yeah mate love to have a look at what you've done. I'm still a young man and happy to crawl around under the car to activate it!

[Disco Muppet]

CDL lever plan :)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/766.jpg (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/DiscoMuppet/media/CDLlever_zpsa21a8b72.jpg.html)



Not credit to me, found it from somewhere here.

[LandyAndy]

That would be my creation;);););)
Make sure you use quality uni joints as cheapies fail as did my prototype.
ENJOY
Andrew

[MR LR]

My ex has a series 2 Disco (last of the rectangular headlights) and it is nowhere near as pleasant to drive around in as a RRC, for example.

DL

I find this interesting, I just bought the D2 I learnt to drive in off mum and dad when mum got an FL2, (paid 5k for a perfect td5 manual with only 200k) the primary reason was to get out of the Range Rover, it's cheaper, and much more comfortable to tow it when I go four wheel driving than to steer the thirsty pig down the road! Also gives me piece of mind that if i do break it, I have a vehicle to recover it and tow it home.

D2 is heaps better to drive IMO, don't get me wrong, I love my RR, but not for it's road manners :p

Cheers
Will

[Disco Muppet]

That would be my creation;);););)
Make sure you use quality uni joints as cheapies fail as did my prototype.
ENJOY
Andrew

Cheers Andy, wasn't sure where I'd found it :)
Works okay?
Where abouts did you put it through the tranny plate, as it's a bit different between the manuals and the autos?
Wonder if it can be worked so the bit with drive socket is a bit more solid, as that's my only real concern.

[MR LR]

CDL lever plan :)

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Not credit to me, found it from somewhere here.
I've never even seen something that agricultural on our, or any other farm!

At least make a D1 lever work, that abomination doesn't belong in a car as classy as a Discovery!

[ozscott]

Rr classic is a very similar ride to a d1, soft and wallowy. Nice ride but the wide track and stiffer set up,of the d2 is a nice thing for spirited driving. D2 just feels so planted in comparison. Stiffer springs and bilsteins make it even better especially over high speed corrugations etc.

Cheers

[joel0407]

Rr classic is a very similar ride to a d1, soft and wallowy. Nice ride but the wide track and stiffer set up,of the d2 is a nice thing for spirited driving. D2 just feels so planted in comparison. Stiffer springs and bilsteins make it even better especially over high speed corrugations etc.

Cheers


All can be varied with spring and shock combinations. They are all old enough now that you'd be unlikely to find one with original gear still working as it should and there are very few who will fit OEM replacements when it comes to suspension.

My D2 had heaps of issues when I bought it. It had heavy springs in the rear as it had been used to tow the odd caravan, all the shocks were original and shot to hell, the front springs were also original and sagged so much the bump stops had been bashed so much there was no rubber left.

The rear of my D2 has now been resurrected with air bags (SLS), new Billies all round and new heavy front springs to support a fair amount of extra weigh in the front. It's got to be the best ridding 4X4 I've driven or been in but still handles thanks to the ACE. I haven't driven anything newer from LR but I suspect they'd be better.

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[MR LR]

All can be varied with spring and shock combinations. They are all old enough now that you'd be unlikely to find one with original gear still working as it should and there are very few who will fit OEM replacements when it comes to suspension.

My D2 had heaps of issues when I bought it. It had heavy springs in the rear as it had been used to tow the odd caravan, all the shocks were original and shot to hell, the front springs were also original and sagged so much the bump stops had been bashed so much there was no rubber left.

The rear of my D2 has now been resurrected with air bags (SLS), new Billies all round and new heavy front springs to support a fair amount of extra weigh in the front. It's got to be the best ridding 4X4 I've driven or been in but still handles thanks to the ACE. I haven't driven anything newer from LR but I suspect they'd be better.

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You'd be wrong!

D3/4's are soft and wallowy and drive like a barge! They also do this weird thing where they seem to get high centered on the freeway (I've driven quite a few of them) and the seats are nowhere near as supportive as those in a D2 (SDV6 SE seats), you can really feel that they weigh 2.7 tonnes, and they don't handle half as well as a D2 with ace. Quite fatiguing to drive, but boy does that 3.0L engine go! Once you get used to the pregnant pause thingy.

This is an unbiased opinion as the D4 is my grandparents and my D2 doesn't have ACE :p

Cheers
Will

[Geedublya]

You'd be wrong!

D3/4's are soft and wallowy and drive like a barge! They also do this weird thing where they seem to get high centered on the freeway (I've driven quite a few of them) and the seats are nowhere near as supportive as those in a D2 (SDV6 SE seats), you can really feel that they weigh 2.7 tonnes, and they don't handle half as well as a D2 with ace. Quite fatiguing to drive, but boy does that 3.0L engine go! Once you get used to the pregnant pause thingy.

This is an unbiased opinion as the D4 is my grandparents and my D2 doesn't have ACE :p

Cheers
Will

Any bumpy corner and my D4 will eat a D2. It doesn't wallow either, I had a D2 with ace as well.
I guarantee point to point I arrive less fatigued and get there quicker in the D4.

[LandyAndy]

Cheers Andy, wasn't sure where I'd found it :)
Works okay?
Where abouts did you put it through the tranny plate, as it's a bit different between the manuals and the autos?
Wonder if it can be worked so the bit with drive socket is a bit more solid, as that's my only real concern.

Works fine,not my drawing though.
Mine is a manual so no tranny plate,it has a brass handle next to the factory CDL leaver.
Not rough,no matter what the sod buster thinks.A D1 lever wont go on the manual D2 transfercase.Had one to try and fit,it MAY go on the auto version if there is something the auto shifter fixes too.
Andrew

[scarry]

Any bumpy corner and my D4 will eat a D2. It doesn't wallow either, I had a D2 with ace as well.
I guarantee point to point I arrive less fatigued and get there quicker in the D4.

Exactly,and i have owned 3 D2's,one with ACE.
There is no comparison.....,both off road and on.

And no we don't want to turn this into a D2/D4 argument,just my 2 cents worth.

[robbotd5]

Any bumpy corner and my D4 will eat a D2. It doesn't wallow either, I had a D2 with ace as well.
I guarantee point to point I arrive less fatigued and get there quicker in the D4.

Any awards going for captain obvious?:). You can not compare a D4 with a D2 full stop. But....a D2 is a hellovalotta easier, cheaper and simpler to work on. So, while I'd love a D4, my D2a will suffice just nicely until the big red ball falls on my head.
So mine is for sale to the right person........:angel: (well no, it's not).
Regards
Robbo

[rathies]

I've never even seen something that agricultural on our, or any other farm!

At least make a D1 lever work, that abomination doesn't belong in a car as classy as a Discovery!

I have done this setup on my last D2 and it looked ok. it just looks like another shift knob next to the transfer lever.

also you don't have to make the u-shaped bracket to go over the spiggot, just torque two nuts to each other and the slide a socket over it, then clip into extension bar.

[p38arover]

Look at what a P38 cost to buy new, and what they cost now.

Yes, I was given a registered P38A for free a couple of weeks back.

[bidds]

...and new heavy front springs to support a fair amount of extra weigh in the front. It's got to be the best ridding 4X4 I've driven or been in but still handles thanks to the ACE. I haven't driven anything newer from LR but I suspect they'd be better.

Hi Joel,

What springs have you fitted to the front of your D2?

cheers,

bidds

[Rayngie]

Our one for the Sh*!t box rally, 2002 v8 auto, Leather interior, full service history, 130km's on the clock, not particularly well looked after but a very solid car.
Was given to us by Landrover, yes it was sponsorship, but they couldn't be bothered with the hassle of selling it, prob needs 2-3k to bring it up to scratch which was to much for them
We got it back at the auction for $400..

[joel0407]

Hi Joel,

What springs have you fitted to the front of your D2?

cheers,

bidds

The Dobinsons +45mm (?) Heavy weight.

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