Classic 4WD's?? Character OR not????

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Hey guys was just speaking to a fellow LJ Suzuki owner..he loves them..but has not driven his for many many years..:o

He said that the fact is today they drive like rubbish compared to Modern utes, Hatch backs ect..[ he dives a 90's Hilux daily, AC, Power steering ect]

So Just woundering what you guys with series Land rovers reckon? You must feel that most people would think that about series Landy's right?:confused::confused:

[Jojo]

It's horses for courses, as usual. I think, most modern cars drive like crap and every time I get behind the wheel on one of my trucks I have a smile on my face :).
Cheers

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Mm I like driving old 4wds.. as I feel like you are more alive and Mehcnaiclly connected..

To me new cars feel so dull and wooden..like a space ship..;)

[Slunnie]

Yep, at least my series when compared to modern 4wds don't do anything well. The charm however isn't about it doing anything well, it's more about it being what it is.

[JDNSW]

They drive differently, certainly, and the modern vehicles tend to be quieter, more powerful, and generally more comfortable, except for the seating position.

But I prefer driving my 2a or 110 to more modern cars such as those suggested. A better view, not just because of the higher and more upright seating position, but because the windscreen pillars are a lot narrower and so block less vision. The seating position is more comfortable. Probably because I am less used to it, I dislike the small diameter and thick rimmed steering wheels on just about everything you can buy today. And many current cars have very poor visibility to the rear compared to either the 2a or the 110 - and you can't see just where the front of the vehicle is.

John

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Indeed mate well said..you might not know but Lj Suzuki's were designed for the farm..so very low geared and low power..
Not designed for long Distances at all..

Ride rough, slow, gutless, noisy, uncomfortable driving position compared to new stuff..:D

[Sitec]

Hi there.
We have two VW Golfs (one old, one new), and two Land Rovers (both old!).. I love my 90's Golf with 400000kms on the clock, and I love wrestling with the 101 at highway speeds... Yes, the wife's new Golf handles, goes like hell, is quiet and good on fuel.... but it irritates the hell out of me each time I drive it.. Little things like the indicators that have to blink 3 times... the interior mirror that no longer has the manual dip lever but does it automatically.. (No good when wife is shorter than me and we used to use that flip lever to adjust the mirror easily), the auto wipers, lights etc.. I'd still pick the older Golf or the 101 for a trip or adventure! Love em!!
My neighbour has an LJ Suzi that he has at his shack for boat launching... Gutless, cramped but fantastic awesome fun that makes me giggle every time we go out in it!! :D

[2stroke]

I've always thought the Series Landies drove pretty well, it's the cruising speed and noise I had the problem with. I still think a 2&1/4 is a fantastic engine. Then I also the 2stroke triple and the Tdi...

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Hi there.
We have two VW Golfs (one old, one new), and two Land Rovers (both old!).. I love my 90's Golf with 400000kms on the clock, and I love wrestling with the 101 at highway speeds... Yes, the wife's new Golf handles, goes like hell, is quiet and good on fuel.... but it irritates the hell out of me each time I drive it.. Little things like the indicators that have to blink 3 times... the interior mirror that no longer has the manual dip lever but does it automatically.. (No good when wife is shorter than me and we used to use that flip lever to adjust the mirror easily), the auto wipers, lights etc.. I'd still pick the older Golf or the 101 for a trip or adventure! Love em!!
My neighbour has an LJ Suzi that he has at his shack for boat launching... Gutless, cramped but fantastic awesome fun that makes me giggle every time we go out in it!! :D

Great story...I used to Work at Brisbane car care..Drove heaps of New Audis..very very smooth and refined, quite, powerful ect..

But still perrfed the drive home from work in my 1992 Sierra..it felt alive and I felt connected[if you know what I mean:lol2:]

[Roverlord off road spares]

Indeed mate well said..you might not know but Lj Suzuki's were designed for the farm..so very low geared and low power..
Not designed for long Distances at all..

Ride rough, slow, gutless, noisy, uncomfortable driving position compared to new stuff..:D
Similar to the little DaihatsuI went hunting once where the farm was 3hours away at 100kph. I towed a tandem trailer with one of these little Daihatsu on board behind an XB falcon just so we could get to the property faster :D. We then used the Daihatsu on the property and after towed it home again. This was a day trip without the tow it would have been a 2 day trip;)

[460cixy]

I hate how this new junk beeps and dings and dongs like the drivers a retard. And there's nothing wrong with how a series landy handles or drives on the road except its lack of pace but then you don't drive one to go,fast do you . Haveing had both old landys and zooks they have a lot in commen slow noisy and basic but both very capable off road and both have a cult following for good reason

[Tote]

Relevent topic as I drove the XT ute in this morning, as I sit here smelling vaguely of exhaust fumes and warm oil it occurs to me that the biggest struggle with old vehicles is the dynamics in traffic. I can jump in the ute and comfortably drive it to Dubbo at 110KM/H but it is quite a chore to take it into Canberra in the traffic. Leaving enough space for the application time of the brakes that are boosted on the front only and having people cut you off is more taxing than driving a truck because at least in a truck you are bigger than them....
There's nothing quite like the sound of the V8 accelerating up the on ramps though :D:D

Regards,
Tote

[BMKal]

You lucky bugger ......................... :p

I'd love to be driving an XR / XT / XW V8 ute to work. ;)

Is there traffic in Canberra ? ...........................

[isuzutoo-eh]

When my girlfriend drives her X Trail, I get nervous, there's arms waving wildly, music up, handsfree phone convos and she grabs for the phone for reading text messages. Aaaargh!
Oh, and sudden lane changes, cutting people off, failing to indicate...

When she drives the Perentie, despite it being far more valuable than a brand new X Trail, I am not nervous as she is a calm, considered, courteous and safe driver.
This 'connection' when driving is a real thing I reckon.
...and 460cixy is right, too many 'idiot alerts' dinging ringing beeping and donging to make up for the lack of awareness the driver typically has.

[Dobby]

My Series Three is noisy, bumpy, smells of burning oil, is slow and thirsty. I can't listen to the radio when I'm driving and I am constantly repairing and maintaining it.


But I just love it and look for any excuse to take it for a drive. I drive new Hilux's and Pajero's at work and they just don't have the same feel about them as my Land Rover and to me are pretty oh hum.

[VladTepes]

Another thing is that older cars of any sort are recognizable from a distance. Nowadays work so many laws applicable they are looking alike with different grille designs

The majority of modern cars have all the character and excitement of a fridge.

[solmanic]

I was going to make a post about how much fun the G Wagen is, but I am apparently "one Merc post away from being banned". :p

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My Series Three is noisy, bumpy, smells of burning oil, is slow and thirsty. I can't listen to the radio when I'm driving and I am constantly repairing and maintaining it.


But I just love it and look for any excuse to take it for a drive. I drive new Hilux's and Pajero's at work and they just don't have the same feel about them as my Land Rover and to me are pretty oh hum.

BINGO!

460cixy..Very true mate:)

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Another thing is that older cars of any sort are recognizable from a distance. Nowadays work so many laws applicable they are looking alike with different grille designs

The majority of modern cars have all the character and excitement of a fridge.

Indeed!

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Lots of my Family and friends give me strange looks when I say that I own old zooks and when I show them pics..they just don't get it..:angel:

[debruiser]

Lots of my Family and friends give me strange looks when I say that I own old zooks and when I show them pics..they just don't get it..:angel:

Plenty of people give me heaps about my series. That is until they come off road with me and see what they were made for.

I agree with everyone about how old cars give u feedback and new cars are trying to drive for you. No wonder there are so many accidents.

Sent from my Land Rover A8.

[Sitec]

I was going to make a post about how much fun the G Wagen is, but I am apparently "one Merc post away from being banned". :p

A bit of photoshop in your picture and it might buy you some points!!! :D... I'd best not mention the latest vehicle I want to own for touring.. A mighty V8 Mercedes 2448 6x6!!! :wasntme:

[reachjatt]

I am not sure if my series (currently under rebuild) will ever see off road/ gravel road/ dirt road.

My personal liking is with the simplicity of series vehicles. They don't look as intimidating&powerful as modern vehicle, yet they can still outperform them in more than one way. Plus added bonus of not being overly covered with electronics and plastic.

Nav

[debruiser]

I am not sure if my series (currently under rebuild) will ever see off road/ gravel road/ dirt road.

My personal liking is with the simplicity of series vehicles. They don't look as intimidating&powerful as modern vehicle, yet they can still outperform them in more than one way. Plus added bonus of not being overly covered with electronics and plastic.

Nav


Ahh yes I love the lack of electronics and plastic too

Sent from my Land Rover A8.

[zulu Delta 534]

When I want to simply go from point A to point B, I drive a modern vehicle, air conditioned, power steering, comfortable seating etc etc,. When I want to go for a drive and actually have control over the machine, to be able to choose the gear, where and when to brake, and what line to pick, when I want a machine to do what I want it to do, when I get sick and tired of answering to mechanical devices and electronic signals, and when I want to experience the self satisfaction that becomes apparent when all the above comes together, then I drive a series vehicle.
Let's face it, there have been no significant improvements in the principles of basic 4 wheel drive in the last 50 odd years, simply labour saving devices. My series vehicle will still go where a modern one will, perhaps though not as fast.
What are we doing with all this perceived saved labour?
I still get great satisfaction out of driving an old vehicle, being able to go up and down the gearbox and transfer case noiselessly without a clutch, relying on torque rather than revs to start off, being able to hear my engine and know exactly what it is doing,.... but....... that is great for recreation, I don't necessarily want to do it all the time.
Regards
Glen

[Davo]

Excuse me . . . I thought this was AULRO, but here I am three pages into a thread and there's nothing but praise for older vehicles and not an argument in sight. Can someone please direct me to the real AULRO? :p

[Davo]

I hate how this new junk beeps and dings and dongs like the drivers a retard. And there's nothing wrong with how a series landy handles or drives on the road except its lack of pace but then you don't drive one to go,fast do you . Haveing had both old landys and zooks they have a lot in commen slow noisy and basic but both very capable off road and both have a cult following for good reason

Anyhoo . . . I completely agree here. Years ago I was driving a new ute, so I opened the shed door, started it up, and it dinged because I didn't have my seatbelt on while we were moving out of the shed. Then I hopped out but left it running while I closed the shed door, so it dinged again. Then I drove up to the end of the driveway to check the post and dinged at me again, finally dinging while I left it running with a door open and dared to walk over to the postbox. Then I pushed the windscreen washer button and that made the wipers scraaaape across the windscreen before the water hit it. I hadn't even made it to the road and I was ready to take an axe to the bloody thing.

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I am not sure if my series (currently under rebuild) will ever see off road/ gravel road/ dirt road.

My personal liking is with the simplicity of series vehicles. They don't look as intimidating&powerful as modern vehicle, yet they can still outperform them in more than one way. Plus added bonus of not being overly covered with electronics and plastic.

Nav


X2

A radio is a Luxury in an LJ Suzi:p

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Anyhoo . . . I completely agree here. Years ago I was driving a new ute, so I opened the shed door, started it up, and it dinged because I didn't have my seatbelt on while we were moving out of the shed. Then I hopped out but left it running while I closed the shed door, so it dinged again. Then I drove up to the end of the driveway to check the post and dinged at me again, finally dinging while I left it running with a door open and dared to walk over to the postbox. Then I pushed the windscreen washer button and that made the wipers scraaaape across the windscreen before the water hit it. I hadn't even made it to the road and I was ready to take an axe to the bloody thing.

HAHA I hear you mate..An Audi is much much worse than that!:eek: