Rijidij Tube Bull Bar, Defender, County

[rijidij]

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I recently designed a new tube type bull bar for Defenders and Countys. After some great feedback from members on here, I've decided to offer the bars with several different options.

All bars will come standard with 5 mounting tabs for fitting driving lights, antennas, sand flag etc, as well as a slotted bracket on the bottom of the top tube for fitting LED light bars etc.
The main tubes are bent at the ends to follow the shape of the body.
All hollow tubes are completely sealed to prevent moisture ingress and rust

This is the 'standard' bar (Base model) with tube braces on the main tubes.
The winch cradle has the standard hole pattern for mounting most electric winches. The front upright will take standard roller fairleads or hawses for synthetic rope. $1200
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This is the 'standard' bar (Base model) with laser cut braces on the main tubes. $1200
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This is the 'Deluxe' bar, same as standard, but has LED DRL's housed into the main tubes. Also available with laser cut braces $1400
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This is the 'Super deluxe' bar which includes LED DRL's, a 100w LED light bar with 10w Cree LED's and stainless steel swivel recovery points with bow shackles. Also available with laser cut braces. $1700
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Any of the extras are available separately on any of the bars.

DRL's $200
100w LED light bar $195
Swivel recovery points and shackles $130 per pair (two swivels & two shackles)



Driving lights can be mounted under the top tube, but depending on winch size the size of the lights might be restricted.



For more info, please contact me through the forum, or you can email me through my website email info@rijidijoffroad.com.au (info@rijidijoffroad.com.au)

Cheers, Murray

[parallax]

Do they fit X-Tech models? Or require additional modification?

[rijidij]

Do they fit X-Tech models? Or require additional modification?

No modification needed. They fit all Defender models.

I fitted a different brand tube bar to a customer's Limited Edition Defender (SVX type lights) and had to cut off the top bracing tube and shorten it because it hit the plastic light surround. This was really annoying because it means welding, sand blasting and re powdercoating a new bar.

Cheers, Murray

[parallax]

Brilliant! PM sent.

[specwarop]

Any chance you could attach a few photos of these installed on some newer Defenders?
Regards

[rijidij]

A customer fitted the first Super Deluxe bar to a Puma 90 last weekend. I'm hoping to get some pictures soon. I haven't fitted any myself yet, so haven't had a chance to get pictures. I'll post them as soon as I have some.

Cheers, Murray

[mools]

Hi Murray,

nice bars.

What thickness is the plate which the SS recovery points mount through? And how are they retained? by the shackles themselves or by circlips that I can't see?

Cheers,

Ian.

[rijidij]

Hi Murray,

nice bars.

What thickness is the plate which the SS recovery points mount through? And how are they retained? by the shackles themselves or by circlips that I can't see?

Cheers,

Ian.

G'day Ian,
The plate is 6mm HA250 and the swivel is retained with a circlip on the front.

Cheers, Murray

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[dullbird]

Have to Say Murray....

Super job on the bar the deluxe looks awesome!!!....

[Bobsdog]

Very nice indeed. Is there a non winch version available?

Andy

[rijidij]

Very nice indeed. Is there a non winch version available?

Andy

G'day Andy,
I haven't designed a non winch version yet, but as you can see in this picture, the winch cradle is welded in between two flat plates at either end, so basically you could do whatever you like in the same space.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/05/364.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Super%20Deluxe%20Tube%20Bar/Super-Deluxe-Bar-Rear_zps35f62b1e.jpg.html)

If you just don't want to fit a winch but want to retain the same strength and similar look, then the simplest modification would be to cut the front plate down like in the picture below. This would allow plenty of space to fit larger driving lights within the bar, or whatever else you want to fit in there.

Cheers, Murray

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[Cracka]

Just mount your rego plate to that plate and then if you change your mind and add a winch later, its still there ready for the install.

The bars look great Murray, looking forward to seeing photo's of the 90 fitted with the deluxe bar you mentioned.

[rijidij]

Here's the first picture I have of one of the bars, on a Puma 90.
It's great to finally see one fitted up to a Defender.

Cheers, Murray


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/05/97.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Super%20Deluxe%20Tube%20Bar/Super-Deluxe-90_zpsec792f9c.jpg.html)

[dullbird]

Geez your temping me Murray!!!

The only thing stopping me getting this great looking bar on the new 130 is the fact that we are considering putting brush bars on

with the last car being written off and the defenders never going to be made in their current form we are thinking protecting protection, protection!

[Tombie]

Looks great Murray, I showed that 90 to Emma and she's excited.

I will contact you closer to her D90s delivery date to organise the order.

Look forward to catching up with you.

[Barefoot Dave]

G'Day Murray.
Have you considered/ designed/ priced the bars for Perentie?
Very interested.

[bemm52]

Geez your temping me Murray!!!



with the last car being written off and the defenders never going to be made in their current form we are thinking protecting protection, protection!



My sentiment s too........our insurance policy claims to replace like for like .......when I informed the dealer/salesman that my particular model was about to be extinict ,he came back with cash equivilent......maybe I need this in writing

Cheers Paul

[rijidij]

G'Day Murray.
Have you considered/ designed/ priced the bars for Perentie?
Very interested.

I have definitely considered designing one for the Perentie chassis (rear wheel carrier too), just way too busy at the moment to dedicate time to new products.
I would love to sell my 130 and replace it with a 110 Perentie...........it would sure make it easier to measure things up if I had one sitting in the driveway :D

The bar would probably look good powder coated in drab olive too.

Cheers, Murray

[lokka]

Looks nice and fancy Murray :cool:

Tho I prefer the protection type of bar :D

[rijidij]

Looks nice and fancy Murray :cool:

Tho I prefer the protection type of bar :D

G'day Chris,
Yeah, this bar isn't really intended for 'Skippy' deflection, although it provides a lot more protection than the standard bumper. Everyone has their own requirements for the type of driving you mostly do.

Cheers, Murray

[specwarop]

Perhaps a silly question, but is there a chance that you could customise for an order - and add the side bar loops so it's got that conventional bull bar look?

[rijidij]

Perhaps a silly question, but is there a chance that you could customise for an order - and add the side bar loops so it's got that conventional bull bar look?

No not a silly question, I have been discussing this with another member. I said I would only do it if it looked ok on this style of bar. I'll post a mock up pic when I get back to my other computer.
Cheers, Murray

[Cracka]

Murray, I would be keen to see your 'modified' mock up as well.

Do you have any profile shots of the bar fitted to the 90 you have posted?

What does the bar weigh out of interest?

Thanks

Mick

[rijidij]

Murray, I would be keen to see your 'modified' mock up as well.

Do you have any profile shots of the bar fitted to the 90 you have posted?

What does the bar weigh out of interest?

Thanks

Mick

G'day Mick,
That's the only picture I have of a fitted bar at the moment, no profiles yet.

The standard bar weighs approx 37kgs without any extras.

In the picture below I've Photoshopped the side bars and raised the middle bar so the side bars are above the lights.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/361.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Super-Deluxe-90-Mock_zps3ff482f0.jpg.html)

[dullbird]

I actually quite like that......

I could see that on with a couple of head light guards on behind it....although Im not sure I would like it if the hoops were to much of a thinner bar than the rest

I just tried to incorporate the light guards on to your picture as if they were built in to the bar too but couldn't get a decent enough picture to photoshop on to see what it would look like

[DieselDan]

Yeah, it's certainly better than my efforts, eh Murray??? :cool:;)

[bemm52]

Here's the first picture I have of one of the bars, on a Puma 90.
It's great to finally see one fitted up to a Defender.

Cheers, Murray


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G day Murray recieved the standard version of this bar today via Mulgo Daniel has been a pleasure to deal with
looks heaps better than the Rovercraft I ordered...........now will have your gear front and back
I guess it will become obvious but where does front number plate go I will be installing a winch?

Cheers Paul

[rijidij]

......................I guess it will become obvious but where does front number plate go I will be installing a winch?

Cheers Paul

G'day Paul,
There is a 3mm thick bracket wrapped up in the smaller parts. It goes on the back of the front fairlead plate as you can see in this pic.

I haven't had time to write up some fitting instructions yet, so the first few customers with the bars have had to wing it :D

Cheers, Murray

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[Crocodile Dundee]

can't wait for it for my Defender will post photos once installed 7 days and counting

[Crocodile Dundee]

Very nice indeed. Is there a non winch version available?

Andy
G'day Murray, can't wait for mine
Cheers
Andrew

[rijidij]

G'day Murray, can't wait for mine
Cheers
Andrew

Hoping to pick the second batch up from the powder coaters tomorrow. I'm looking forward to seeing them on the front of Defenders, and one on my own County too :D

Cheers, Murray

[Cracka]

If anyone with these new bars fitted has any side on (profile) shots of the bar fitted, would you be able to post them :D please.

[rijidij]

If anyone with these new bars fitted has any side on (profile) shots of the bar fitted, would you be able to post them :D please.

I'll try and take a couple of pics tomorrow now I have my own bar fitted.

Cheers, Murray

[Cracka]

I'll try and take a couple of pics tomorrow now I have my own bar fitted.

Cheers, Murray

That'd be great, thanks Murray.

[weeds]

If anyone with these new bars fitted has any side on (profile) shots of the bar fitted, would you be able to post them :D please.

search for my thread where I fitted........pretty sure there is a side on pic. keep in mind I have a PTO winch so the cradle sits out more so just ignore that part.

[rijidij]

I'll most likely extend the next batch of bars forward a little to allow the fittment of a wider range of winches. Most common model winches will bolt straight in, but some have a wider body which means the grille would need to be cut, such as I did with mine (see below). My Warn winch is about 25 years old so it has a bigger diameter body than most of the recent models.

Here's a couple of side pics................

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1604.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/County%20Bull%20Bar/Tube-Bar-Side-1_zps0c07a34b.jpg.html)

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I finally got some time to fit my own bar to my County.............

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While I'm at it, I thought I'd try some Truck Lite LED headlights to see how good they are. Also, I've fitted 10w cornering lights which are great for more side vision in the bush, and LED driving lights. It's been hard to find any LED driving lights with a decent long distance spot beam, these ones are supposed to have a 8-10 degree beam pattern so I'm hoping they perform better than others I've tried.
I haven't had a chance to try the driving lights or Truck Lites yet as I've had winch wiring hanging everywhere.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1607.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/County%20Bull%20Bar/County-Tube-Bar-Lights_zps316486ef.jpg.html)


Cheers, Murray

[Tombie]

Looks fantastic Murray!

I'm hazarding a guess - and may be way off the mark - that the poster asking may have a slight interest in the profile because - it looks great! Or has heard of the ADR changes to forward protruding top bars...

If the later is the case, and considering the sleek design- I wonder what this bar would be subject to!?

[weeds]

Looks fantastic Murray!

I'm hazarding a guess - and may be way off the mark - that the poster asking may have a slight interest in the profile because - it looks great! Or has heard of the ADR changes to forward protruding top bars...

If the later is the case, and considering the sleek design- I wonder what this bar would be subject to!?

my thoughts are if the lights were not fitted than the bar overall slopes back i.e. the most forward part is the cradle and the hoop/higher part is behind or backwards.....dunno if that makes sense. well that is my reasoning if questioned

fit big spot lights to nearly any bar they protrude forward.

[Cracka]

Looks fantastic Murray!

I'm hazarding a guess - and may be way off the mark - that the poster asking may have a slight interest in the profile because - it looks great! Or has heard of the ADR changes to forward protruding top bars...

If the later is the case, and considering the sleek design- I wonder what this bar would be subject to!?

You won the prize Tombie, I have been waiting to see some profile shots for that exact reason. With all the **** going on at the moment I think it's something I need to think about.

It does look great Murray, just not real sure about the forward rake of the hoop. I guess the only way to get it to rake back would be for the horizontal bars to meet the winch cradle at the front not the rear, maybe! Which would get the bottom of the hoop further forward.

I definitely don't want an insurance claim (if needed, hopefully not) knocked back because they claim the bar doesn't comply, its such a bloody minefield and not black and white.

Its all so confusing.................

Those headlights look good, let us know how them and the spotties go.

[DieselDan]

Not sure if this will help or confuse matters, but here's a pic of the mods I got Murray to do to the bar that I've fitted to my Deefer.

Basically, just as Cracka suggested, I asked him to move the main horizontal bars further forward (so that it didn't look like the winch cradle was poking so far out). We settled on 60mm, but this would also put the top of the main hoop forward by 60mm, potentially in front of the winch cradle, so I asked him to make the hoop a lot more vertical and the top is now slightly behind the front of the winch cradle.
The main tubes are swept back, so at each end they are only 30mm further forward than the bar that Murray has on his own County.

Not sure whether it is any more or less legal than Murray's original design, but the hoop is almost vertical and I like it :D

[Cracka]

Dan, you obviously had the same thoughts as I did. That's exactly how I was describing it.......It looks good too.

I think it would appear to be more 'legal' in that guise.

Murray, I hope you don't think I'm bagging your design at all, mate I'm not in any way. I'm just trying to nut this stuff out.

Thanks for chiming in Dan, I don't suppose you have any frontal pics, of the bar that is :D

[DieselDan]

If I'm honest, I was only driven purely by looks. It'll be a while before I get round to fitting a winch and I preferred the look of the main hoops moved forward so it isn't too obvious that there's a gaping space where a winch should go!!
I wasn't even aware of the potential ADR issues :o It's just luck I suppose that the hoop has ended up more vertical!

There's some more pics here:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/49826-show-us-your-deefers-221.html

[Cracka]

Thanks very much for that Dan......

I'm such an idiot, I saw that in the thread and thought it looked good, didn't even notice the changes then though :o

I'm the same, I want something that looks good and is functional. I like the changes you guys made :thumbsup:

[Bobsdog]

G'day Mick,
That's the only picture I have of a fitted bar at the moment, no profiles yet.

The standard bar weighs approx 37kgs without any extras.

In the picture below I've Photoshopped the side bars and raised the middle bar so the side bars are above the lights.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/361.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Super-Deluxe-90-Mock_zps3ff482f0.jpg.html)

Murray

Did you end up fabricating a bar with side hoops?

Andy

[rijidij]

Murray

Did you end up fabricating a bar with side hoops?

Andy

It's funny you should ask this question today, I literally just finished the prototype and will be taking it to the powder coaters tomorrow.
The centre tube is 60mm and the outer tubes are 50mm. I think it will look better than the photoshop pic once it's finished.

Here it is in it's raw state........

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/138.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Hybrid-Prototype_zps9506d281.jpg.html)

[dullbird]

That looks a lot better than I imagined, cant wait to see it powder coated.:cool:








Just an idea could accessorize it by making some light guards that screw in and out of the bar (option) obviously they wouldn't give as much protection than a guard that is directly over the light but would offer some stone protection from stuff being thrown up directly in front.

[rijidij]

That looks a lot better than I imagined, cant wait to see it powder coated.:cool:


Just an idea could accessorize it by making some light guards that screw in and out of the bar (option) obviously they wouldn't give as much protection than a guard that is directly over the light but would offer some stone protection from stuff being thrown up directly in front.

At first I wasn't sure the outer bars would suit this type of bull bar, but having done this one in the flesh I think it looks good, I'm keen to see it powder coated and fitted to a Defender. I'd refer to it as a 'Hybrid' bar as it combines the 'off road' bar and a 'touring' bar.

Regarding the light guards, anything is possible. It would probably only require some tabs welded onto the tubes and some polycarbonate sheet cut to fit.

Cheers, Murray

[dullbird]

I meant the light guards like nugget has just put on his.

I think the poly ones would be ok to but I would have thought they would break if a rock hit one at that size?? I don't know the polycarb ones I had on my Defender had a curvature to them in not sure if that was for strength or for deflection of rocks

[Bobsdog]

Looks very tidy Murray and I'm sure will look great when powder coated and fitted. How does the price compare with your standard tube bars?

Andy

[Tombie]

Poly carb reduces useable light by around 15% as well...

Mesh or 3M headlight film..

[YOLO110]

It's funny you should ask this question today, I literally just finished the prototype and will be taking it to the powder coaters tomorrow.
The centre tube is 60mm and the outer tubes are 50mm. I think it will look better than the photoshop pic once it's finished.

Here it is in it's raw state........

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/138.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Hybrid-Prototype_zps9506d281.jpg.html)

That looks GREAT!!

I think that will make the usability for "skippy strikes' spot on!

When can we order this version please mate! ;)

[rijidij]

That looks GREAT!!

I think that will make the usability for "skippy strikes' spot on!

When can we order this version please mate! ;)

I'm hoping to pick it up from powder coating today or tomorrow, so when I get a chance I'll mount it on my 130 to see what it looks like.

You are welcome to order this style bar now, but delivery wont be until well after Xmas due to my long list of jobs.

Price for this bar will be $1480 including DRLs.

I'll post picks of the finished bar as soon as I can.

Cheers, Murray

[YOLO110]

Looking forward to those pictures!!! :cool:

[rijidij]

Finally got some stuff back from the powder coaters. The hybrid bar came up quite nice.
Haven't had time to fit it to a Defender yet, but here it is looking all shiny and black.

If there's any 'shiny' Defender owners in the Geelong area who would like to preview it on their car, please let me know as it would make better pictures than my beat up 130 Tdi. If you have the standard bumper it would only take about half an hour to fit and take off again. Otherwise, my beat up 130 will have to do.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/1082.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Hybrid-Front-Back-_zpsc8b71355.jpg.html)

[loneranger]

Looks good. Can't wait to see it mounted.

Where do you mount spotties on this one?

[rijidij]

Looks good. Can't wait to see it mounted.

Where do you mount spotties on this one?

Spotties can be mounted either on the top brackets, or attached to the slotted bracket under the middle top tube.

Cheers, Murray

[dullbird]

Looking good Murray looking forward to seeing it on a car

[loneranger]

Any updates?

[jimb]

Yeah. I'm checking this thread twice Day hoping for a pic.

Am sure Muz is too busy kicking back counting all his Christmas cash. ...

[YOLO110]

Well, if no one in Melbourne wants to mount this on their "shiny" Defender, I may well have to drive down from Sydney!!! :D

[Tombie]

Murrays bar work looks great fitted out...
88762

[parallax]

Any more photos?

Consider it a Christmas present to me! Haha

[Tombie]

Not yet, some coming in next few days...

[nedflanders]

The bar with the hoops looks great, can't wait to see it fitted. Couple of quck questions though, could small eyelets be added to the top corners of the side tubes for bushguards and as for the lights, could they be half day running lights and half indicators? Oh and final question how can I get this past the wife without her noticing?

[loneranger]

Finally got some stuff back from the powder coaters. The hybrid bar came up quite nice.
Haven't had time to fit it to a Defender yet, but here it is looking all shiny and black.

If there's any 'shiny' Defender owners in the Geelong area who would like to preview it on their car, please let me know as it would make better pictures than my beat up 130 Tdi. If you have the standard bumper it would only take about half an hour to fit and take off again. Otherwise, my beat up 130 will have to do.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/1082.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Hybrid-Front-Back-_zpsc8b71355.jpg.html)

Have we had any takers yet?

[rijidij]

Have we had any takers yet?

Yep, the bar is sold, but I wont be fitting it until early February. It's going on a nice shiny Puma so I'll post some pics as soon as it's done.

Cheers, Murray

[noyakfat]

Hi Murray,

This "hybrid" bar certainly looks the goods. Well done :)

I am another keen on-looker, eager to see the bar fitted to a new Puma.

Would there be any option for supply of the hybrid bar without DRL's and, more specifically, without the cutouts for DRL's?

In addition, I currently have the standard defender bumper with an APT steering guard fitted. Will the APT guard be compatible with your hybrid bar?

Cheers, and thanks again for another great product.

Nige

[rijidij]

Hi Murray,

This "hybrid" bar certainly looks the goods. Well done :)

I am another keen on-looker, eager to see the bar fitted to a new Puma.

Would there be any option for supply of the hybrid bar without DRL's and, more specifically, without the cutouts for DRL's?

In addition, I currently have the standard defender bumper with an APT steering guard fitted. Will the APT guard be compatible with your hybrid bar?

Cheers, and thanks again for another great product.

Nige

G'day Nige,
I make the bars to order, so it's no problem making them with specific requirements, within reason. The DRL cutouts can be omitted.
Customisation wouldn't be practical in a mass production situation, but due to a more personal service I'm happy to work with you to get what you want.
The DRLs have been very popular, but I have made a couple of bars without the DRL slots by request.

Cheers, Murray

[loneranger]

Yep, the bar is sold, but I wont be fitting it until early February. It's going on a nice shiny Puma so I'll post some pics as soon as it's done.

Cheers, Murray

Thanks, I'll wait on making a decision until then. If I like the look and ordered one what wait time would I have. If possible I'd like to be able to fit it over the Easter long weekend. :)

[rijidij]

Thanks, I'll wait on making a decision until then. If I like the look and ordered one what wait time would I have. If possible I'd like to be able to fit it over the Easter long weekend. :)

I don't see pre Easter delivery as a problem at this stage. Basically how I work (as a one man operation) is, when I get an order I put it on my job list in order and build it when I get to it. Sometimes things get built sooner if I have other orders for the same thing as it saves me time to build things in multiples or batches.
I have quite a list of jobs at the moment due to the silly season, but I'm back at it now, so I'm hoping to catch up on things ASAP.

Cheers, Murray

[House Mountain]

Hi Murray,
Keen to see some pics of your new b bar all mounted up. From what I hear there will be a rush of orders coming your way. Keep up the quality work & you will have customers for life.

[rijidij]

Well, after a long wait, I finally fitted the first Hybrid bar to a customer's Defender on the weekend, and I'm quite happy with the result.

I must pre warn anyone who might be interested in ordering one, it will be several weeks before I could build them due to a long list of jobs I have at the moment (still trying to catch up with things after Christmas)

Anyway, here's some pictures. There's still some wiring in need of a tidy and the DRLs aren't hooked up yet. Also, the number plate is fitted over where a winch fairlead would go because this one wont be fitted with a winch. You can see the number plate bracket in the bottom picture...............

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/674.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Defender-Hybrid-Bull-Bar_zps6e7b4f26.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/675.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Hybrid-Front_zpsb9725d33.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/676.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Hybrid-Side-Top_zps9df65ae4.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/677.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Hybrid-Side_zpsdd61b0ea.jpg.html)

We fitted some Light Force LED driving lights while we were at it. The picture doesn't do them justice, but they are the brightest LED lights I've seen in the flesh, it was hard to look at them even in bright daylight, very intense.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/678.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Hybrid-Lights_zps2ccef2c0.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/679.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Defender-Hybrid-Bull-Bar-1_zps43dcf9dd.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/680.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Defender-Hybrid-Bull-Bar-Re_zpsaf60bee2.jpg.html)

Cheers, Murray

[dullbird]

Looks good Murray!

[loneranger]

I'm surprised there haven't been more responses given the earlier interest in this bar.

I've sent an email with some questions but it looks a lot better than any of the other options IMHO. At least we know the quality workmanship will exceed any of the big brands. :D

[barney1978]

Looks great.

[noyakfat]

Yep, two thumbs up for that one Murray :D

:BigThumb: :BigThumb:

[rijidij]

Just posting some pics of a bar we fitted last week, including a winch.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/759.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Std%20Tube%20Bar/DSC_0096_zpskte6rq70.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/760.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Std%20Tube%20Bar/DSC_0108_zps3nwiq8gf.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/761.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Std%20Tube%20Bar/DSC_0101_zpsutmlece9.jpg.html)

[Tombie]

Murray, see the bracket holding the control box to the winch...

Need one of them :)

[Tombie]

Oh yes, and here's a couple of Rijidij bars :)
92791

[DieselDan]

Hi Murray,

Are they stainless circlips on the swivel recovery eyes?

Sent using AULRO mobile app

[loneranger]

Here's a picture of ours.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1177.jpg

More details on our build thread.

[rijidij]

Here's a picture of ours.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1177.jpg

More details on our build thread.

Looking good Mark, I love Keswick Green, and the bar looks awesome against the silver grill (If I do say so myself :D )

Cheers, Murray

[nedflanders]

Whats your current lead time with delivery costs to Perth please?

[Tombie]

Here's a picture of ours.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/loneranger-albums-defender+builds-picture5292-after-4days-work-over-easter.jpg

More details on our build thread.


Very nice!!! Great colour..

Bit too long and the roof seems a bit light though :)

[rijidij]

Whats your current lead time with delivery costs to Perth please?

G'day,
There are a few options for freight..........unfortunately you WA guys really cop it for freight cost:mad:.

Hybrid bar
Delivery to your door $410
Pick up from a depot in Welshpool $345

Standard or deluxe bar
Delivery to your door $311
Delivery to your door with permission to leave it at your door $306
Pick up from a depot in Welshpool $345

These prices could change depending on how far out of the CBD you are.

The reason for the variation in prices is, I use a different courier to Welshpool than 'to your door' deliveries.

Regarding lead time, I'll be starting a batch of bars in about a week, so approx 2-4 weeks delivery depending on powder coating times etc etc.
These will only be bars for current orders, not stock. Any orders in the next week or so can be included in this batch.

Cheers, Murray

[loneranger]

G'day,
There are a few options for freight..........unfortunately you WA guys really cop it for freight cost:mad:.

Hybrid bar
Delivery to your door $410
Pick up from a depot in Welshpool $345

Standard or deluxe bar
Delivery to your door $311
Delivery to your door with permission to leave it at your door $306
Pick up from a depot in Welshpool $345

These prices could change depending on how far out of the CBD you are.

The reason for the variation in prices is, I use a different courier to Welshpool than 'to your door' deliveries.

Regarding lead time, I'll be starting a batch of bars in about a week, so approx 2-4 weeks delivery depending on powder coating times etc etc.
These will only be bars for current orders, not stock. Any orders in the next week or so can be included in this batch.

Cheers, Murray

For those in WA considering pickup both our packages from Rijidij were picked up from Pep transport on Fargo Way Welshpool. Its quite close to Roe Hwy so is quite accessible.

They loaded my bar straight into the trailer.

[nedflanders]

Can pickups be arranged for a Saturday?

[rijidij]

Can pickups be arranged for a Saturday?

Operating hours vary from one depot to another, so you might have to contact them directly to check.

Pep Transport
Courier Service
3 Fargo Way, Welshpool WA 6106
Phone:(08) 6254 0700

Cheers, Murray

[nedflanders]

Sorry to be a pain but what would the ends of this bar look like on the hybrid bar?
Anyone good with photoshop?

http://www.snakeracing.com.au/rigid-led-lights/light-bar-on-defender_3456.jpg

[loneranger]

Sorry to be a pain but what would the ends of this bar look like on the hybrid bar?
Anyone good with photoshop?

http://www.snakeracing.com.au/rigid-led-lights/light-bar-on-defender_3456.jpg

Is your question about Rijidij's bar or are you asking about the one in the link because that appears to be an advert for a light bar?

[Tombie]

Sorry to be a pain but what would the ends of this bar look like on the hybrid bar?
Anyone good with photoshop?

http://www.snakeracing.com.au/rigid-led-lights/light-bar-on-defender_3456.jpg

Less protection for starters (the curve on Rijidij provides a wrap inline with the flare)

And I would say you'll find the line just wouldnt look right, chopped off below a hoop

[nedflanders]

Sorry. that is a question about Rijidij's bar, the link shows a tube bull bar and the ends are tapered rather than bend round, could the hybrid bar ends be finished with the ends like the picture in the link?

[RVR110]

LOL. The car in the photo was my 2011 Defender. The bar in the photo is a Rovacraft bar, so even after photoshopping it may not give you a good representation.

[Pocket Rocket]

Sorry. that is a question about Rijidij's bar, the link shows a tube bull bar and the ends are tapered rather than bend round, could the hybrid bar ends be finished with the ends like the picture in the link?

Probably best to PM Murray directly to see if it can actually be done.

[loneranger]

Sorry. that is a question about Rijidij's bar, the link shows a tube bull bar and the ends are tapered rather than bend round, could the hybrid bar ends be finished with the ends like the picture in the link?

If you want to look at a Murray's hybrid bar in standard form in the flesh send me a PM and we'll see if we can work something out.

[nedflanders]

Thanks for the offer, will PM you.

[Landi]

Thinking of getting one of these rijidij bars on my puma. How does the weight compare to say an ARB or TJM bar? Standard suspension set up on my 110 so wondering if it would sag at the front like the heavier bars would

[rijidij]

Sorry. that is a question about Rijidij's bar, the link shows a tube bull bar and the ends are tapered rather than bend round, could the hybrid bar ends be finished with the ends like the picture in the link?

Hi Mark,
As I make all the bars myself anything can be done, within reason.
The Hybrid bar could have the tapered ends, but in my opinion it would look better with the curved ends as they follow the shape of the guard.

It would be good if you can arrange to have a look at Loneranger's bar, I think they look better in the flesh than in pictures.

Cheers, Murray

[rijidij]

Thinking of getting one of these rijidij bars on my puma. How does the weight compare to say an ARB or TJM bar? Standard suspension set up on my 110 so wondering if it would sag at the front like the heavier bars would

Hi,
The standard Rijidij bar weighs approx 37kg and the Hybrid approx 42kg, no winch.
Looking at other threads it seems an ARB bar weighs approx 45kg.

With a standard bar I guess you would be ok with stock suspension, but if you're thinking of attaching a winch at all it would be wise to upgrade as there's a lot of extra weight forward of the front axle.

Cheers, Murray

[Pocket Rocket]

Thinking of getting one of these rijidij bars on my puma. How does the weight compare to say an ARB or TJM bar? Standard suspension set up on my 110 so wondering if it would sag at the front like the heavier bars would

As I recall ours was about 45kg. Haven't noticed any difference on the suspension on our 110. It was easy to lift and bolt on. The hardest bit was undoing all the padding and tape. That took about 3 times longer than what it did to install it because it was wrapped up so well.

Got a couple of pics of the installation process on our build thread (loneranger's 110 and pocket rocket's 90)

[rijidij]

.....................Got a couple of pics of the installation process on our build thread (loneranger's 110 and pocket rocket's 90)

If anyone wants to see the fitting instructions for the tube bull bars you can view them online here......... Rijidij Bull Bar Fitting Instructions (https://app.box.com/s/e63n5oi4i2vngutm8c6gbi2i3gy5m48j)

Cheers, Murray

[loneranger]

It would be good if you can arrange to have a look at Loneranger's bar, I think they look better in the flesh than in pictures.

Cheers, Murray

Totally agree, I was a bit iffy based on the pictures initially but now its fitted I wouldn't have anything else. If we ever put a bar on the 90 it'll be another one the same. :D

[nedflanders]

If anyone wants to see the fitting instructions for the tube bull bars you can view them online here......... Rijidij Bull Bar Fitting Instructions (https://app.box.com/s/e63n5oi4i2vngutm8c6gbi2i3gy5m48j)

Cheers, Murray

Is there any difference fitting to a TD5 90?

[rijidij]

Is there any difference fitting to a TD5 90?

No, no difference. The bull bars will fit everything from the County to the Puma, 110 or 90, including the extended A/C grilles and SVX type front lights (I know one other brand bar has to be cut, modified, re welded and re powder coated to clear the SVX lights)

Cheers, Murray

[nedflanders]

Cheers Murray, Bar looks better than I imagined :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/658.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/map8789/media/20150712_164345_zpstfoykqsu.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/674.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/map8789/media/20150712_164419_zpsemwqs2mz.jpg.html)

[rijidij]

Cheers Murray, Bar looks better than I imagined :D

Looking good mate, I've often said the bars look better in the flesh than in pictures, I'm happy to hear you like it.

I had another customer recently who painted his Boost Alloys black. For a wheel that's been around so long they come up pretty good, I'd probably do the same except they're not the right offset for the 255's I run.

I've also been looking at the Factor55 winch hooks, I like how they pull in flat on the fairlead.

Cheers, Murray

[rijidij]

I have had to review the pricing of all Rijidij Off Road products with the new financial year upon us. It's not something I wanted to do, but it's part of surviving in business unfortunately.

I have updated the prices for the bull bars in the first post (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/verandah/197860-rijidij-tube-bull-bar-defender-county.html) of this thread.

Cheers, Murray

[rijidij]

I had a customer in the workshop yesterday with a very nice looking, very Black 90.
This 90 is not going to see much (if any?) off road, so we built a non winch bar with the main bumper running the full width for more of a 'street look'.

We fitted some JW Speaker Evo 2 LED Headlights while we were at it.

I'm pretty happy with the result.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/698.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Non%20Winch%20Bars/Defender-Non-Winch-Bar-1_zps7velaj3j.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/699.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Non%20Winch%20Bars/Defender-Non-Winch-Bar-2_zps9sqrixfr.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/700.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Non%20Winch%20Bars/Defender-Non-Winch-Bar-3_zpsihbxnlcb.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/701.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Non%20Winch%20Bars/Defender-Non-Winch-Bar-4_zpsesah6xt9.jpg.html)

[Tombie]

Very clean!!! Looks good.

[YOLO110]

Very clean!!! Looks good.

Agreed!

Murray, PM sent!

Pete :)

[noyakfat]

Now I really like the concept of that last non-winch bar, but would prefer one with the full loops as per the regular winch bar.

My budget for the bar will have to wait, yet again. I'm spending the $ on child seat anchor points for the 110 in about a week.

Looking great though, Murray. Some day :)

[rijidij]

Now I really like the concept of that last non-winch bar, but would prefer one with the full loops as per the regular winch bar.

My budget for the bar will have to wait, yet again. I'm spending the $ on child seat anchor points for the 110 in about a week.

Looking great though, Murray. Some day :)

I did a non-winch bar with the loops for a customer recently. I don't have pics of it fitted yet.
We did it in gal because it's going on a Heritage 90.

I can customise the bars to your requirements.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/12/623.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Gal%20Bars/Gal-Defender-Bull-Bar_zpsekfe7lwh.jpg.html)

[noyakfat]

Yep, that's pretty much what I'd be after, except without the running lights, in black.

Looks like my hand will be going up for plenty of overtime :)

[noyakfat]

Hi Murray,

Any pics of that last gal bar fitted?

Cheers,

[rijidij]

Hi Murray,

Any pics of that last gal bar fitted?

Cheers,

Not yet mate. I'll contact the owner and see if he can send some.

Cheers, Murray

[GypsySamuraiAnt]

Very nice, I was after a non winch myself soon. What's the thickness of the material you use mate? 5mm?

Cheers,
Ant.

[rijidij]

Very nice, I was after a non winch myself soon. What's the thickness of the material you use mate? 5mm?

Cheers,
Ant.

Chassis mounting brackets are 6mm, bracing tubes 4mm and flat braces 6mm.
The main tubes are 3mm, 5mm would be a bit of overkill here.
So, there's various thicknesses of material.

Cheers, Murray

[GypsySamuraiAnt]

Thanks Murry. Will one fit with a Apt steering guard with recovery eyes?

[rijidij]

Thanks Murry. Will one fit with a Apt steering guard with recovery eyes?

I've fitted tubular bars to other customer's cars with the APT steering guard and they go together no problem. In fact, if anyone asks about steering guards, the APT is the one I recommend because Ben makes good stuff.

Cheers, Murray

[rijidij]

Here's some pics of the galvanised non-winch Hybrid Bar fitted to a Heritage 90.
The bar was galvanised to stick to the Heritage theme, and it can easily be changed back to the original bar if required.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/368.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Gal%20Bars/Gal-Defender-Bull-Bar-3_zpsfncbvhem.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/369.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Gal%20Bars/Gal-Defender-Bull-Bar-4_zpsw5hlcar2.jpg.html)

We also did a galvanised wheel carrier and Mulgo Bumperettes.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/370.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Wheel%20Carriers/Puma%20Wheel%20Carrier/Gal%20Wheel%20Carrier/Galvanised-wheel-carrier_zps03ovjwrs.jpg.html)

[justinc]

Good job there Murray!! Galv is just right for these vehicles especially those with cappings ie series and early county. Can't believe the heritage hasn't got galv capping and the rear plates like a series.... big oversight IMO.

JC

[SG1 Bones]

Those rear bumperettes look great how much would they and the bull bar set me back in gal for a 109" SIII and for postage to Morayfield (just north of Brisbane)?

Thanks
Nathan.

[rijidij]

Those rear bumperettes look great how much would they and the bull bar set me back in gal for a 109" SIII and for postage to Morayfield (just north of Brisbane)?

Thanks
Nathan.

The bumperettes are only made to fit Defenders. It's possible they could be fitted to a SIII, but it might mean drilling new holes through the chassis.

The bull bar is also designed for the Defender / County. It might be possible to fit the bar to a SIII, but I'd have to check the chassis dimensions, I've never checked to see if the chassis spacing etc is the same between Defenders and older Series models.

As for galvanising, it's a bit tricky to quote as the galvanisers have a minimum charge even for a small job. It works out best if I have a batch of stuff to do at the same time to bring the cost down. Also, they are not close to me so I have to courier the parts to and from them.

As a rough guide, the cost would be as follows.............

Hybrid non winch bar $1630 (Customising extra)
Mulgo Bumperettes $390 + freight
Galvanising Minimum $180
Freight to and from gal Approx $160
Freight to Morayfield ~$432
Total ~$2792+

Cheers, Murray

[SG1 Bones]

Thanks that gives me an idea how many pennies I need to save.

Nathan.

[noyakfat]

Thanks Murray for posting the photos of the gal bar. I'm putting the pennies away now, because that bar (in black without running lights) is the bar for me.

I will be in touch.

Cheers,

[rijidij]

Just posting a pic of the Hybrid bar, without DRLs

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/105.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Defender-90-Bull-Bar_zpsebprjrdk.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/106.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Hybrid%20Tube%20Bar/Defender-90-Bull-Bar-_zps2p07dqpq.jpg.html)

[rijidij]

I came across this great video review of Mark's Defender 90 in WA, featuring the Hybrid bar with the works.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYDJFeZU9Ys

[noyakfat]

I saw that video a while back and greedily forgot to share it :)

[loneranger]

For those with winches and spotlights on the Rijidij bar what winch will fit?
I have fyrlyts hanging down on my bar and am considering putting a winch on. from my measurements it looks like I have about 200mm in height available to the bottom of the lights. Most winch measurements for height are to the highest point which is not necessarily the height of the whole winch.

I've never had a winch before so am not familiar with the general dimensions and what may fit. I'm also not looking to spend a heap of $$$ as I only want to put on a cheapie to see how much I use it.

[rijidij]

You'll find most winches will fit straight in to the bar, and it's usually pretty easy to find the actual dimensions online to make sure............

Warn Winch Dimensions (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=warn+winch+dimensions&newwindow=1&espv=2&rlz=1C1GIGM_enAU507AU507&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiauMqQndXLAhULpZQKHc34BQYQ_AUIBygB&biw=1920&bih=997)

Ironman Winch Dimensions (https://www.google.com.au/search?newwindow=1&espv=2&rlz=1C1GIGM_enAU507AU507&biw=1920&bih=997&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=ironman+winch+dimensions&oq=ironman+winch+dimensions&gs_l=img.3...12012.13837.0.14134.7.7.0.0.0.0.311.1 339.0j4j1j1.6.0....0...1c.1.64.img..1.0.0.wi4BGJ1I TfA)

Runva Winch Dimensions (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=runva+winch+dimensions&newwindow=1&espv=2&rlz=1C1GIGM_enAU507AU507&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizxP-AndXLAhUMGJQKHdKLDpkQsAQIIQ&biw=1920&bih=997)

There are some winches that wont fit without modification, like the Warn 12xe which has a cooling air pump at one end making it quite long, or super HD winches which have a larger diameter body and would require the grille to be cut.
Any winch that wont fit is likely to be more than required on your average Defender, but most 'standard' winches will fit.
There are various locations for the control boxes between brands, so it does pay to check dimensions, pictures etc online if you want to fit other items in the same space.

Cheers, Murray

[rijidij]

Just shipped this non-winch Hybrid bar, looking forward to seeing pics of it fitted.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Non%20Winch%20Bars/Defender-Non-Winch-Hybrid-B_zpsfzsbowu3.jpg.html)

It has custom made mounts to suit the Lightforce LED180 driving lights.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/03/279.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Non%20Winch%20Bars/Lightforce-180-Mount_zpshxfjqqhr.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/03/280.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Lights/Lightforce%20LED%20180SD_zpsawtyq2u6.jpg.html)

Cheers, Murray

[loneranger]

You'll find most winches will fit straight in to the bar, and it's usually pretty easy to find the actual dimensions online to make sure............

Warn Winch Dimensions (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=warn+winch+dimensions&newwindow=1&espv=2&rlz=1C1GIGM_enAU507AU507&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiauMqQndXLAhULpZQKHc34BQYQ_AUIBygB&biw=1920&bih=997)

Ironman Winch Dimensions (https://www.google.com.au/search?newwindow=1&espv=2&rlz=1C1GIGM_enAU507AU507&biw=1920&bih=997&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=ironman+winch+dimensions&oq=ironman+winch+dimensions&gs_l=img.3...12012.13837.0.14134.7.7.0.0.0.0.311.1 339.0j4j1j1.6.0....0...1c.1.64.img..1.0.0.wi4BGJ1I TfA)

Runva Winch Dimensions (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=runva+winch+dimensions&newwindow=1&espv=2&rlz=1C1GIGM_enAU507AU507&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizxP-AndXLAhUMGJQKHdKLDpkQsAQIIQ&biw=1920&bih=997)

There are some winches that wont fit without modification, like the Warn 12xe which has a cooling air pump at one end making it quite long, or super HD winches which have a larger diameter body and would require the grille to be cut.
Any winch that wont fit is likely to be more than required on your average Defender, but most 'standard' winches will fit.
There are various locations for the control boxes between brands, so it does pay to check dimensions, pictures etc online if you want to fit other items in the same space.

Cheers, Murray

Thanks Murray,

Those detailed dimension drawings help a lot.

[noyakfat]

Just shipped this non-winch Hybrid bar, looking forward to seeing pics of it fitted.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb102/rijidij/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Non%20Winch%20Bars/Defender-Non-Winch-Hybrid-B_zpsfzsbowu3.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Defender%20Tube%20Bull%20Bar/Non%20Winch%20Bars/Defender-Non-Winch-Hybrid-B_zpsfzsbowu3.jpg.html)

It has custom made mounts to suit the Lightforce LED180 driving lights.

Cheers, Murray

Hi Murray and everyone else,

Yep I am very stoked with this bar Murray made for me.

I should have the driving lights fitted on Wednesday sometime. Will post pics on this thread when finished.

I have pics of the bar fitted (sans lights) in my thread on Members Rides forum.

Thanks again Murray.

[noyakfat]

As promised, here is a quick pic of the LED180 driving lights in place, via the mounts Murray incorporated into my hybrid tube bar at my request.

I rushed it a bit as light was fading, so don't have a full width shot of the bar. However, a "full frontal" type shot is included on my Members Rides thread.

Thanks again Murray. I love the bar.

Cheers,

[loneranger]

Couple of pics from today's fittings of some of Murray's products :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/321.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/321.jpg

Lightbars are still to be fitted.

[rijidij]

Couple of pics from today's fittings of some of Murray's products :D.

Good to see everything arrived.

Nice looking fleet of Defenders there Mark.

Cheers, Murray

[Col 110]

Hi

I went to Geelong area this last week - to meet up with a few friends but also to get my front bar fitted by Murray.

Thanks to Murray - a great customer experience.

I asked for a Non Winch Hybrid Bar with special Lightforce LED light fittings. Murray was great to deal with and I really appreciate the attention to detail and willingness to customise.

Here are a couple of photo's once I got back and cleaned of the bugs from the trip :)


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/262.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/263.jpg

[tailslide]

The bar looks good.

I would be concerned that the vehicle is no longer ADR compliant as the hoop blocks the indicator lamp within the required viewing arc. This is why the ARB bull bars etc have the extra lamp set in the bar.

[Col 110]

I would be concerned that the vehicle is no longer ADR compliant as the hoop blocks the indicator lamp within the required viewing arc. This is why the ARB bull bars etc have the extra lamp set in the bar.
Not sure I agree - the NSW Bull Bar Tolerances does not discuss a viewing arc for the indicators - only that the 'constituent members' need to fit around the light clusters - which is does. The drawings just show that the lights need to be visible from the front. There is also the indicator on the fender which whould help.

[Dervish]

G'day Murray,

Have you had call to make a bar to suit a Perentie yet? I remember there was some talk of it a while back.

[tailslide]

Not sure I agree - the NSW Bull Bar Tolerances does not discuss a viewing arc for the indicators - only that the 'constituent members' need to fit around the light clusters - which is does. The drawings just show that the lights need to be visible from the front. There is also the indicator on the fender which whould help.

Hi Col 110

The viewing arc is defined in the ADR for the direction indicator lamps (Australian Design Rule 13/00 Installation of Lighting and Light Signalling Devices on other than L-Group Vehicles, Appendix A ? UNECE R48/02) and is stated as 45deg either side of the front if side lamps are fitted.

This arc must be free of obstructions to be compliant. "To be considered visible, the lamp must provide an unobstructed view of the apparent surface of at least 12.5 square centimetres..."

Under the Supplementary General Requirements section they state:

"Where the installation of equipment or accessories for operational reasons invalidates the compliance of lamps originally fitted in accordance with this vehicle standard, additional lamps must be fitted to maintain compliance." I believe that this is why ARB have the repeater lamps set in their bars.

I was keen on buying the same bar as Lonerangers in the previous post, however I'm swayed towards the ARB bar as I can't see how this bar complies with the lighting requirement.

My concerns are more around insurance clauses in case of an accident. I wouldn't want my vehicle to be deemed non road worthy. On the over hand I wouldn't expect to get pulled over on the road side.

I don't really like the ARB bar as it eats into your approach angle, on my old D2 I called it the plough...

Maybe ARB are just being cautious. Anyway, I'll have to decide one way or the other soon...

Cheers
Ron

[loneranger]

Hi Col 110

The viewing arc is defined in the ADR for the direction indicator lamps (Australian Design Rule 13/00 Installation of Lighting and Light Signalling Devices on other than L-Group Vehicles, Appendix A ? UNECE R48/02) and is stated as 45deg either side of the front if side lamps are fitted.

This arc must be free of obstructions to be compliant. "To be considered visible, the lamp must provide an unobstructed view of the apparent surface of at least 12.5 square centimetres..."

Under the Supplementary General Requirements section they state:

"Where the installation of equipment or accessories for operational reasons invalidates the compliance of lamps originally fitted in accordance with this vehicle standard, additional lamps must be fitted to maintain compliance." I believe that this is why ARB have the repeater lamps set in their bars.

I was keen on buying the same bar as Lonerangers in the previous post, however I'm swayed towards the ARB bar as I can't see how this bar complies with the lighting requirement.

My concerns are more around insurance clauses in case of an accident. I wouldn't want my vehicle to be deemed non road worthy. On the over hand I wouldn't expect to get pulled over on the road side.

I don't really like the ARB bar as it eats into your approach angle, on my old D2 I called it the plough...

Maybe ARB are just being cautious. Anyway, I'll have to decide one way or the other soon...

Cheers
Ron

Hi Ron,

Our bars come with driving lights in the bar. It would probably be easy enough to pull them out and insert indicators. If they are available you could probably drop in dual park/indicator lights and the wiring shouldn't be too hard. If you have Drivesafe's relay kit they would just connect straight to the relay.

When I bought the first one I had concerns about the ADR compliance and Murray had made modifications as a result of one of the bars going over the pits here in WA not sure if they checked the lights though.

Cheers

[Col 110]

Hi Col 110

The viewing arc is defined in the ADR for the direction indicator lamps (Australian Design Rule 13/00 Installation of Lighting and Light Signalling Devices on other than L-Group Vehicles, Appendix A ? UNECE R48/02) and is stated as 45deg either side of the front if side lamps are fitted.

This arc must be free of obstructions to be compliant. "To be considered visible, the lamp must provide an unobstructed view of the apparent surface of at least 12.5 square centimetres..."

Under the Supplementary General Requirements section they state:

"Where the installation of equipment or accessories for operational reasons invalidates the compliance of lamps originally fitted in accordance with this vehicle standard, additional lamps must be fitted to maintain compliance." I believe that this is why ARB have the repeater lamps set in their bars.

I was keen on buying the same bar as Lonerangers in the previous post, however I'm swayed towards the ARB bar as I can't see how this bar complies with the lighting requirement.

My concerns are more around insurance clauses in case of an accident. I wouldn't want my vehicle to be deemed non road worthy. On the over hand I wouldn't expect to get pulled over on the road side.

I don't really like the ARB bar as it eats into your approach angle, on my old D2 I called it the plough...

Maybe ARB are just being cautious. Anyway, I'll have to decide one way or the other soon...

Cheers
Ron

I am just going off this document - http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/downloads/bull-bar-tolerances.pdf - and the bar would tick off all the boxes in that check list.

However - I do appreciate your point that there might be other regulations it needs to adhere to so I'll leave it that.

I looked at the ARB bar and I couldn't buy it - I think your description of it being a plough is spot on :-)

If the only reason to buy the ARB bar is because it has 'built in indicators' then I would ask Murray to fit indicators into the bar :-)

I appreciate your replies.

Cheers,
Col.

[rijidij]

G'day Murray,

Have you had call to make a bar to suit a Perentie yet? I remember there was some talk of it a while back.

I have had discussions about fitting the bars to Perenties, but haven't actually gone ahead with anything yet.
Given the front chassis is the standard width, it shouldn't be too difficult to modify the bar mounts to fit the Perentie chassis mounting points.

Cheers, Murray