Brake upgrade on my Bloodbox

[Dinty]

I have had these parts for some months now, Series 3 6cyl front brakes, but only recently started to have them refurbished. The wheel cylinders are away at present having stainless steel liners fitted, meanwhile I have had the brake drums skimmed, grit blasted both sides of the backing plates
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2758_zpscd5ffde4.jpg
now just waiting for the wheel cylinders to arrive, then I can fit them up, just one of the many jobs on the go ATM, cheers Dennis

[Dinty]

Applied Gloss Black to the other side of the backing plates this morning
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2764_zps16f3b88f.jpg
now just need the LHS wheel cylinders and I can start on this job, cheers Dennis

[Dinty]

Damn n blast it all, while cleaning the 2 front 3" drums this morning, I found one of them had a hairline crack on the outer edge possibly starting at the drain hole
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2772_zps33d5b5c9.jpg
I'm a bit surprised that the problem was not seen when the drums were skimmed!, anyway lucky for me I had a spare, so I kept plugging away at them, cleaning/grit blasting, etch prime/paint
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2773_zpsbfce232a.jpg
I'm still waiting for the LHS wheel cylinders, yesterday I had to make 8 of these short bolts, as the hex/heads on the originals were a tad ordinary
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2769_zpsb6781262.jpg
anyway that has been part of my day, cheers Dennis

[muddy]

hey Dennis just done a bit of palm reading OMG:o:o

tells me those brakes are going to work mighty well !!!!!

keeping an eye on this when i do mine

[Dinty]

While multi-tasking over the past few days, I have managed to get all the items needed to put the front brakes on
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2822_zps6004bfb5.jpg
only issue I have is, I can't start the job (damn) as I have bought a rarther large compressor that I will have to fit in the garage in front of the Bloodbox, so I cannot start the job until I have taken possession of the compressor and got it into place, isn't it always the way, something else to slow you down, cheers Dennis

[Dinty]

Well I have finally taken possession of all the parts required to start the upgrade on the 109.
I had to charge the battery, I have been using my boom - box off the battery in the bloodbox, anyway, I started the engine and moved it out of the shed, cleared away a pile of Land Rover bits, moved my frame that holds the oil's needed for oil changes etc, and put my old compressor under it, with that job done, get the Land Rover in place, make sure I could move around and work in the area without being too cramped, jack it up place stands under the front axle
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2870_zps98b9c824.jpg
using this 3/8"UNF bolt that I had machined, undo the flexi-brake hose, and screw the bolt into the steel brake line, this effectively stops the loss of too much brake fluid.
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/new/IMG_0941.jpg
After removing the brake drum and hub assembly, a quick de-grease, and I changed the hub oil seal as well just for good measure
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2871_zps085dd3a0.jpg
then fit the LHS brake backing plate and bolt it up, re-assemble the hub
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2872_zps0c240f96.jpg
well that was as far as I got, the grandkids turned up and it was getting too cool n dark, anyway hopefully get more time on it again tomorrow, cheers Dennis

[Dinty]

Today (after lunch) I dismantled the RHS brake/hub assembly and refitted it with the Series 3 6cyl brakes
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2875_zps2070bb32.jpg
the bolt that I machined to stop fluid loss works like this
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2874_zps9cc132ab.jpg
once you have removed the flex line, the 3/8"UNF bolt screws into the female nut on the brake pipe, thus stopping an awful lot of fluid loss, anyway tomorrow hopefully I will have the rear end done, and can make a start on bleeding the system, cheers Dennis

[Dinty]

Well all my good intentions have gone south. Up early this morning moved the vehicle out of the shed
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2877_zps31bb84cd.jpg
with 'Charli' watching me & Lulu (15.5 years) having her morning ablutions, a little while later jack up n remove the RHS wheel/hub assemblies, then remove the brake shoes, I always use a tyre lever in this manner, saves your fingers getting pinched/cut (LHS shown)
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2879_zpsabff4a94.jpg
It didn't take long to complete the RHS, so release the brake hose clamp
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2880_zpsd1d7009a.jpg
then do the same for the LHS.
Now I knew the LHS wheel cylinder was the one with the stuck piston, that took almost a week to free up at the brake place on the Nth coast somewhere. The threads inside the casting are a bit of a headache, I always run a tap through them to make sure the thread is clean etc
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2878_zps5613477b.jpg
anyway while trying to line up the brake pipe nut with the cylinder, either I got it off square or it picked up on the thread, anyway the end result was the same, ?? the cylinder is buggered.
I took it back off, run a tap through it again and was able to freely screw in a 3/8"UNF bolt and a brake union nut with my fingers, buoyed by this I lined it up and got it to screw home n tight, but when I undid the brake hose clamp it started to drip brake fluid, so I clamped off the flexi-pipe again, fitted the wheel hub/road wheel, selected low range and moved it back into the shed.
I'm very annoyed at myself for buggering it up $66.00 down the drain, I'm not sure if it can be repaired by the brake service, so my good wife is going to take that cylinder down on Monday + the LHS old cylinder which I removed today, so if it can't be fixed at least I will have another by weeks end, damn bugger n blast it all.
I did have all fittings loose which helps to line up and ease the union nut into place, but something didn't work to plan today, win some lose some, cheers Dennis

[Dinty]

I rang the after hours number listed for the brake service this morning, my wife will be down there @ 0730hrs (Mon 23/6) to drop off the damaged cylinder + the one that was being replaced, that way I will have 2 irons in the fire.
The service manager said they may be able to remediate the damage, it is down where the double flare seats ? maybe you can see it in this image
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2883_zpsa28c70e4.jpg
I made a dead end fitting for the brake pipe, so I could release the clamp on the flexi-hose, a short piece of hex brass drill & tap 3/8"UNF, a 5/32 steel ball
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2885_zps672a26f3.jpg
drop the ball into the hex brass, offer up to the brake pipe, nip it up, release clamp, and no more drips (except me LOL)
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2886_zpsc3018627.jpg
so that's about it on this job until later in the week, at least I will be able to utilize some time on my Series 1, cheers Dennis

[Lionelgee]

Hello Dinty,

Did you hear back from the brake liner people if your slight threading error was redeemable or not?

Kind Regards
Lionel

[Dinty]

Yes I have, it is ready to be picked up, but unfortunately for me, work has got in the way, and besides I'm waiting on the other wheel cylinder to come back from up the Nth Coast, so to kill 2 birds with the one stone so to speak, cheers Dennis
ps I will post an image/description of what has taken place when I have it,,.

[Dinty]

Here is an image of the said adaptor, it is I believe a standard brake fitting metric<>imperial
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2891_zpsb96473cc.jpg
the male end of the brass fitting is metric 10 x 1.0 & the female end is 3/8"UNF.
I have bled most of the air out (I hope) and adjusted the shoes so they are dragging, either tomorrow or Sunday I will have another go at it, cheers Dennis

[Dinty]

After taking 3 of the 'Poodle Patrol' for a work home visit as the residents love dogs and are always asking about them and ??WHEN?? am I going to visit with them, so I knocked that over this morning, that was the end of the morning.
After lunch, I run my compressor up until the safety valve lifted then shut it down, rigged an air line, and with the good wife helping and the Vacuum brake bleeder in action, I'm happy ATM with the brakes.
The vehicle is going to the 'All British Day' in Newcastle late July, so I checked over a few items, connected the rotating beacon and give the system a quick run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGv02Txf0Wc

it still works, I'm happy about that, the only faults I found were that the heater fan & blower didn't work, I'm suspecting it's just the fuse that will need to touched/moved and away they will go, anyway that's been my day cheers Dennis

[Dinty]

Here are my brake tools mate
first the 'Rigid' flaring tool
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2905_zps73fd59c1.jpg
and the 'Record' tubing bender
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_2906_zpsb1d72c07.jpg
hope that's of some help, cheers Dennis.

[Lionelgee]

Here are my brake tools mate
first the 'Rigid' flaring tool

and the 'Record' tubing bender

hope that's of some help, cheers Dennis.


G'day Dennis,

Thanks for the photographs and the confirmation of the model numbers. I had the Record pipe bender correct and did not know which of the Rigid's flaring tools was the one you had. :) Rigid make quite a few different models.

Now to file this information in my Word document under Series 3 Brakes & Clutch. :)

Kind Regards
Lionel

[Seriestwo]

I am currently re-doing the brakes on my series 2. I picked up a firewall with a late series 3 pedal box with the factory booster attached. So I sent it off to be re-built and purchased a duel line master to suit. I also purchased an adjustable brake proportioning valve to get the bias correct. I had a the backing plates, shoes and springs for the front 6 cyl brakes, so I installed these and picked up some new wheel cylinders. Its a bit of a learning exercise as I am just following posts like yours and information from the manual and the parts catalogue.

I am yet to finish the system as I only received the front wheel cylinders yesterday but hopefully when I get them installed and run a few more brake lines it will make the landy stop quickly, when its on the road.

Chris