Perentie compliance plates

[Phil B]

Gents,

Could you let me know if an ex army Perentie will (or should) have the ADR compliance plate the same as a civilian 110 and where they are located on the vehicle.
Could you also let me know where I would find the chassis number on a Perentie.

Thanks in advance.

Phil

[Blknight.aus]

compliance plate is on the firewall near the heater box or the center (refer to the pdf in http://www.aulro.com/afvb/1862599-post162.html)

chassis number is on the RHF forwards of the spring hanger.

[Phil B]

Thanks very much Dave.

[87County]

There are some being sold with the compliance plate missing - usually noted as such in the auction listing.

Chassis No is on the outside vertical face of the RHF chassis rail as Dave advises.

[rar110]

Are they being registered without a compliance plate?

[87County]

Are they being registered without a compliance plate?

good question rar110 -

I look forward to reading posts on the subject.

Vehicles manufactured earlier than these didn't have compliance (or VIN) plates.

The compliance (or VIN) plate is the only place where the date of manufacture is shown and this info is required on the application to register a vehicle in all states.

The key spot for the VIN is where it is stamped on the chassis so the plate is not required for that. The graysonline receipt would be sufficient to prove ownership and hopefully would show date of manufacture in the circumstances.

There may be alternative ways of establishing date of manufacture that can be acceptable to the various state registration authorities.

[rar110]

good question rar110 - I look forward to reading posts on the subject. Vehicles manufactured earlier than these didn't have compliance (or VIN) plates. The compliance (or VIN) plate is the only place where the date of manufacture is shown and this info is required on the application to register a vehicle in all states. The key spot for the VIN is where it is stamped on the chassis so the plate is not required for that. The graysonline receipt would be sufficient to prove ownership and hopefully would show date of manufacture in the circumstances. There may be alternative ways of establishing date of manufacture that can be acceptable to the various state registration authorities.

Mine has the manufacture date stamped next to the VIN. I think it's only done on the perenties.

[rathgar]

I think the vehicles at auction that don't have a compliance plate. Say that they have a letter/statement on compliance from the manufacturer. Whether that satisfies the authorities I don't know.
The plate needs to state that the vehicle meets the standards, etc.

Ian

[vgpacer70]

Aha, I think I am maybe one of the first to be a victim of the "VIN/Compliance" plate not being standard.
I purchased an FFR at the last Adelaide auctions a couple months back.
I had the vehicle sent to Regency for the ID inspection so can get registered in SA.
Short story - vehicle impounded on the spot and told will be collected by the police as part of a Forensic investigation - WHAT THA
tried for next 2 weeks to get an answer on what the hell was the problem. Nobody would say.
Finally someone at Elizabeth Police station indicated that it's something to do with the VIN number or compliance plate - possible tampering. This was what the numpties at Regency impounded the vehicle for.
So Police are required to investigate.
3 weeks later still no update from police!!!!!!!

I believe mine is one of the first to have this happen.

Now it's just a waiting fame.

Note: Both Grays and AFM have offered to assist where they can when/if they get a request from Police.

What a debacle.

[87County]

SA seems to be the state where people have had the most problems with rego inspections - is there a particular reason for this ?

I had always been led to believe that SA had fairly generous rego requirements.

[101RRS]

My E-type, 101 and Haflinger do not have compliance plates. When going through the registration process for the 101 I was told that commercial vehicles up to 1986 may not have had compliance plates but after 1986 all vehicles sold into Aust had to have a compliance plate.

I understand that Perenties are post 1986 so need a compliance plate. In another thread I asked how you go about getting a new compliance plate when one has been lost or is wrecked in a car accident - the general consensus was that it was not possible.

The bottom line is that your vehicle should have a plate hence the numptys at your registration authority referring this to the police as a possible rebirth - however logically common sense would have applied and registration rejected with advice on what is required to get it registered.

Maybe you need to go through a compliance process such as imported cars go through and you get a new compliance plate. When I first registered my Jaguar in 1984 there was discussion on whether a compliance plate was required but was decided it was needed - however if it did, a letter from Jaguar Rover Australia stating the vehicle complied with Aussie requirements would have been required - JRA was not happy to put their name on such a document but ultimately it did not matter.

Garry

[rust]

Because I bought a Victorian Perentie (without Vic or NSW Blue Slip) I was super paranoid about getting it through Rego in NSW so I made a few calls before making the committment.

I finally got through to a decision maker/policy dude at NSW Roads and Maritime who made super clear that I shouldn't go near a Perentie without a fitted compliance plate unless I wanted the misery.

I then called AFM who said they might be able to help with a manufacturing certificate or something. After weighing up the options it was easier to just make 100% sure the plate was there in the first place.

Getting the blue slip and insurance in NSW wasn't quite as breezy as people made out. For whatever reason RMS dfidn't have a "code" for a 110 ute with 3.9l non-turbo diesel and neither did NRMA. In the end the process took 3 hours longer than it would for a normal car but they fixed it in the end. Roadworthiness wasn't the issue it was red tape.

Also: Being able to drive it unregistered from Vic to NSW was super easy. Just call Vic Roads with the Vin# and vehicle details and request an unregistered vehicle permit. $44 over the phone payment for a one way trip - origin to destination via the fastest route within a 4 day window.

[Xoanon]

I just registered mine in VIC after a bit of a hassle (even with a compliance plate). In spending a lot of time talking to Vicroads it seems that as it was a defence vehicle the VIN is deleted from the national database which requires the authority to reinstate the VIN on the database. This is apparently the process (according to the bloke from Vicroads) that is used for police and witness protection related vehicles to stop any link from the plate to the individual.

I had a Monty Python moment:

"your vehicle doesn't exist"
"yes, it does, it is parked outside"
"no it isn't, it doesn't exist"...

but after three visits to Vicroads they accepted that the vehicle existed and loaded it onto the VIN database.

Good luck!

[isuzurover]

Aha, I think I am maybe one of the first to be a victim of the "VIN/Compliance" plate not being standard.
I purchased an FFR at the last Adelaide auctions a couple months back.
I had the vehicle sent to Regency for the ID inspection so can get registered in SA.
Short story - vehicle impounded on the spot and told will be collected by the police as part of a Forensic investigation - WHAT THA
tried for next 2 weeks to get an answer on what the hell was the problem. Nobody would say.
Finally someone at Elizabeth Police station indicated that it's something to do with the VIN number or compliance plate - possible tampering. This was what the numpties at Regency impounded the vehicle for.
So Police are required to investigate.
3 weeks later still no update from police!!!!!!!

I believe mine is one of the first to have this happen.

Now it's just a waiting fame.

Note: Both Grays and AFM have offered to assist where they can when/if they get a request from Police.

What a debacle.

Any update on this???

[vgpacer70]

Sorry for delay
Was on a cruise in Caribbean last week and now in Moscow.

It was resolved the week before the cruise so took a while, but resolved okay it was.
The simple fix was a new "surrogate" chassis number was given and stamped onto the chassis and then went thru rego with a breeze.

:D

[isuzurover]

Sorry for delay
Was on a cruise in Caribbean last week and now in Moscow.

It was resolved the week before the cruise so took a while, but resolved okay it was.
The simple fix was a new "surrogate" chassis number was given and stamped onto the chassis and then went thru rego with a breeze.

:D

So was the problem the missing compliance plate or missing chassis numbber?

[Blknight.aus]

Aha, I think I am maybe one of the first to be a victim of the "VIN/Compliance" plate not being standard.
I purchased an FFR at the last Adelaide auctions a couple months back.
I had the vehicle sent to Regency for the ID inspection so can get registered in SA.
Short story - vehicle impounded on the spot and told will be collected by the police as part of a Forensic investigation - WHAT THA
tried for next 2 weeks to get an answer on what the hell was the problem. Nobody would say.
Finally someone at Elizabeth Police station indicated that it's something to do with the VIN number or compliance plate - possible tampering. This was what the numpties at Regency impounded the vehicle for.
So Police are required to investigate.
3 weeks later still no update from police!!!!!!!

I believe mine is one of the first to have this happen.

Now it's just a waiting fame.

Note: Both Grays and AFM have offered to assist where they can when/if they get a request from Police.

What a debacle.

yours might have had a chassis replacement as part of a refurb.

[Mick_Marsh]

I just registered mine in VIC after a bit of a hassle (even with a compliance plate). In spending a lot of time talking to Vicroads it seems that as it was a defence vehicle the VIN is deleted from the national database which requires the authority to reinstate the VIN on the database. This is apparently the process (according to the bloke from Vicroads) that is used for police and witness protection related vehicles to stop any link from the plate to the individual.

I had a Monty Python moment:

"your vehicle doesn't exist"
"yes, it does, it is parked outside"
"no it isn't, it doesn't exist"...

but after three visits to Vicroads they accepted that the vehicle existed and loaded it onto the VIN database.

Good luck!
I had a very pleasant experience registering my 6x6.
The roadworthy was issued no problems. A few broken and worn bits had to be replaced.
The only issue Vicroads had was what to register as. The tandem axles suggested "heavy rigid" but the GVM suggested "light rigid". When I advised them that, because the axles were less than a metre apart centre to centre, it is considered to be one axle for registration purposes, they confirmed this with the manager and accepted any further information I gave as fact.
It was a breeze. The Vicroads people I dealt with were excellent.

[UncleHo]

These registration dept. problems are similar to what I went through to correct the incorrect rego details for my Series 3 Lightweight, it was regoed in Qld as a 1984 model 4cylinder Diesel (LWB):) but it was in fact a 1980 model SWB 2.25ltre Petrol, when presented to Transport Dept,they couldn't find the Chassis No under the pommie tar like chassis protectorant,so refused,they called one of their Inspectors,he came out looked and then spotted the Nomenclature plate riveted to the dash/firewall and stated "just put all that down it is Military and will be correct" :D

So I now have a correctly registered 1980 Petrol Landrover Series 3 SWB Air Portable ;)

[vgpacer70]

For mine it was the chassis number. I had the VIN plate there. You might be correct as mine did have a Tenix Refurb where it appears everything was replaced. Any it's registered. :)

[Banjo57]

I bought my Perentie in Darwin with no compliance plate.
Flew over from Nhulunbuy, gave it the once over, filled it with diesel and drove it back (1000ks - 700 on dirt through Arnhemland) Love it!
Got some grief for my Green slip and more grief from the compliance inspector.
I did have a letter of compiliance from JRA but the issue is still not fully resolved.
Made some enquiries with Graysonline and a had a very helpful call from COlin in Sydney.
He explained that some vehicles where special to some people/units and the plate was souvenired, much like a dog tag!

[Phil B]

Not sure about the rules in NT but I have an S3 fully registered in NSW without a compliance plate due to a replaced fire wall. All they needed was the chassis number for rego
Not sure if that helps!
Enjoy it
Phil

[JDNSW]

Not sure about the rules in NT but I have an S3 fully registered in NSW without a compliance plate due to a replaced fire wall. All they needed was the chassis number for rego
Not sure if that helps!
Enjoy it
Phil

Compliance plates were only introduced during S3 production, so this may have helped, especially as plating of vehicles in the early days was a bit haphazard. And it had probably been previously registered. None of the above applies to Perneties, so I am not sure that experience with an S3 helps!

John

[gromit]

You could get Compliance Plates re-manufactured, just need one to scan. Probably not legit but who would know ?

I know a company that would do it but, as always, it's cost vs quantity.

Mind you, if it saves the registration hassle how much is it worth ?


Colin

[Phil B]

Agree with your points John.
My S3 is 1978 and therefore after the 1974 introduction of plates.
However, my point is that vehicles can be registered under some circumstances without a compliance plate
Regards
Phil