2.4L PUMA - 250,000kms.....

[mike_beecham]

Hi All
07 2.4 130 with 250,000kms.

Is this too many to be reliable ..... is this a gearbox waiting to explode type situation? It is a country vehicle. Had a new clutch at 230,000kms.

Is this a risky buy? I am looking to setup for remote area touring with a slide on camper.


Thanks,
Mike

[Drover]

I guess the K's are getting up there, but it's good to hear of PUMA's with big K's.

I don't think there will be issues with the motor, but the box ..... Maybe.

A friends Transit did 5th gear at 350,000 but is a roofers truck and is made work hard every day.

How many $$$$$ would be the thing.....you could always pre- empt the gear box issues and recondition before it goes Boom !

[chook73]

It is always hard to know as there are not that many around with big KM on them so who knows how long they are going to last but hopefully a while....

You never know when things are going to happen, my head gasket went with only 94,000km on it but that is no indication that one with 250,000km will have any issues with the head gasket at all.

I guess if the price is right then get it checked out by a mechanic and if it checks out then you should hopefully be ok.

[mike_beecham]

Thanks for the replies. It is priced around $22,000.
I will ask for a report on what was done under LR Warranty. There were a lot of little things with the first run of PUMAs. It is a one-owner.

Mike

[TonyC]

Hi All
07 2.4 130 with 250,000kms.

Is this too many to be reliable ..... is this a gearbox waiting to explode type situation? It is a country vehicle. Had a new clutch at 230,000kms.

Is this a risky buy? I am looking to setup for remote area touring with a slide on camper.


Thanks,
Mike

If it's a country vehicle why did it need a clutch at 230K km?

Tony

[weeds]

If it's a country vehicle why did it need a clutch at 230K km?

Tony

230k, how long should one last??

Owner might have rode the clutch a lot, rested foot on clutch pedal, a lot of off road work.....plus I have read plenty of clutch failures on here with pumas......

[noyakfat]

I would take it to a LR specialist mechanic and pay for an inspection with a full report…. provided you are seriously considering purchasing the vehicle and are pretty much set on this one.

If you have any other doubts then I would pass it up, but if this is your only concern and you're sure it's the vehicle for you if it proves to be sound, then surely it's worth the moola to have it properly checked.

Cheers,

[mike_beecham]

My mate has hat clutches in his 2 PUMAs go under 40,000kms. So l think if it has managed 230,000kms on one clutch them that sits well with me.

Thanks for advice........

[MLD]

My first defender had high mileage. It was a TD5. My thoughts on the puma engine. There are transit vans running around with taxi odo figures. The transfer case will be fine provided it was serviced. I agree that the gearbox may be questionable but negotiate on price for that risk.

To my point, I found on a high mileage truck it was the little things that needed constant attention. Bearings, bushes, shocks, coils, radiator hoses, intercooler hoses etc etc. They systematically were failing on a regular basis so for a while it was constantly with the mechanic. You should budget for an overhaul of the items that would have worn over 250k. Do it off the bat as a post purchase overhaul or as they wear out.

As for 230k for a clutch, I'd be happy with that mileage in a 4wd. It's a consumable part.

MLD

[Brid]

My puma didn't wear the clutch out, but spat a spring out at 240,000 km. It still seems to be reliable at 250 now, and am happy to do extended trips, so could be lucky. The gear box oil was still relatively clean, with no sign of wear debris, or synchro brass in it, so nothing is wearing abnormally. Can't rule out sudden catastrophic failure happening though.

[Drover]

$22,000 sounds like a very reasonable price, I would think....

There are plenty of 2000/01 Td5's around with more K's for similar amounts of cash !

[TonyC]

230k, how long should one last??

Owner might have rode the clutch a lot, rested foot on clutch pedal, a lot of off road work.....plus I have read plenty of clutch failures on here with pumas......

The claim that the 250,000, km are "country Ks" implies that they are relatively easy Ks.
My County had the original clutch in it when it was written off at 500,000Ks
and it was less than half worn.
I know of several other vehicles that have had that sort of "country Ks" and not had anything touched.


Tony

[BilboBoggles]

A Puma clutch is very different to a county. It's very very common for a pre 2012 model PUMA to have gone through 3-4 clutch friction plates during it's warranty period. The usual failure was the springs broke or rattled. Often you'd start getting a death rattle as you turn it off. My 2009 model had 4 clutches, before the last one which ironically I got in the last week of the warranty, and a few months before I sold it.

Probably not worth reading anything into a failed puma clutch most 2007 have had a few.

As with any defender - go look for rust in the bulkhead and chassis. The PUMA models had no rust preventitive underneath from the factory, so a rusted chassis is possible - especially if it's done beach work. Also the bulk head - under the floor mats, not the ones that are easy to lift, the ones that are on the more angled parts of the firewall, but of a PITA to lift - but you might find some serious rust there.

At 250,000 you'll probably hit a round of maintenance, such as radiator, viscous fan, perhaps swivel housings/bearings etc. But that's just normal maintenance.


For 22k it would be a bargain (as long as it's not rusted) - and I'd buy it in an instant if I had the cash... ;-)

[PAT303]

I would not think twice about the K's,big K's mean lots of driving at operating temps which is better than small stop start driving heating up and down ten times a day.The clutch problem was faulty springs,they have been updated. Pat

[slug_burner]

I would find it pretty hard to shell out 22 big ones on a vehicle that has done over 200k. If every component that was due to be changed at the particular service had been done then it would look a little more attractive, still it is a lot of money fora well used vehicle.

[LoveB]

PM me vin number if you want. I'll see what warranty history its had.

[Durham]

For anyone reading in 2015, just had my Puma clutch and slave cylinder changed at 23,000 for clunking and leak but under warranty so quickly sorted but not a good omen for the future.

[Pickles2]

What is the body, interior, & underbody like on this vehicle?
Pickles.

[cripesamighty]

Pickles, I am pretty sure that he ended up buying a GU Patrol or 200 Series Cruiser instead late last year. Will need to check.


Edit. Yep, he bought a GU Patrol, but still wants a weekend Defender to play with!

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/210022-gone-nissan.html