Tool ID question

[rover-56]

I have been exploring the dark corners of my shed, which has had several owners before me, and I found this.
Winds up like a bumper jack, but doesn't look like one to me.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks,
Terry

[JDNSW]

Fence Strainer??


John

[rover-56]

Hi John,
Yes maybe, but I think I would need 3 hands to work it:)

I was hoping it might be a star stake puller, but I can't figure out any way to make it work as one.

Terry

[mike123]

My first thought was star picket lifter. To use it I'd imagine that you loop some wire (eg #8 guage) and tie it at one of the holes in the star picket and then hook the hook end in that loop and start winding.

Then thinking about it again it would be pulling the post sideways to some degree which isn't ideal but may be enough to move the post and then finish lifting the post out manually.

Judging by the paint still on the underside of the foot I'd say that it wasn't used that much otherwise there would have been no paint left.

Another thought is that it may be missing a part. Do the bars pivot on the base?

[rover-56]

Yes both bars pivot on the base.
I thought it might drop over the stake, but the gap is too small.
Wishful thinking I guess because I need a stake lifter.

If it is a stake lifter there must be a bit missing - something to grip the stake.
I have been trying to use a Hi Lift jack in the past but the problem is always effectively gripping the stake. I have a bent 10mm D shackle which shows how tight a stake can be. :mad:

Terry

[JDNSW]

For a grip on the star picket, you need a piece of plate, at least 10mm, and I would say 12mm better, with a square notch cut in it that is a slightly loose fit on a steel post. This needs to be pivoted on one edge on whatever you use to lift it, so that when lifted by that edge it jambs on the post.

My one comprises a flat ground plate with a pair of posts about 30cm high, between which is pivoted a short lever, which has the gripper described above on one end, and has welded to it a piece of pipe about 30cm long that is a neat fit for a crowbar. Works quite well.

John

[rover-56]

Thanks John, yes there is a company near here who make something similar, but with a 3 lobed hole, and I think probably case hardened. Richmond Engineering in Maffra.

Might have to de-rust my supposed toolmaking skills and get into it.

Terry

[mike123]

Yes both bars pivot on the base.
I thought it might drop over the stake, but the gap is too small.
Wishful thinking I guess because I need a stake lifter.

If it is a stake lifter there must be a bit missing - something to grip the stake.
I have been trying to use a Hi Lift jack in the past but the problem is always effectively gripping the stake. I have a bent 10mm D shackle which shows how tight a stake can be. :mad:

Terry

Troubles me that both pivot as you rightly mention some of those star pickets can be a pain to remove. With both pivoting then you may not get the leverage as all that will happen is that the 'lifter' just leans more and more toward the post. If a 10mm D shakle bent then a couple of loops of #8 wire through the one of the holes on the post will definitely stretch but it but may still work.

The other thing this reminds me of is perhaps for straining ring-lock fences but it is missing the gripping part that sandwiches the ring-lock. That would be almost be a two man job to strain - one to strain and then one to tie the ring-lock to the wire runners.

Mike

[rover-56]

Hmmm.... all the suggestions so far are fence related. Mind you I can't think of anything better.
Need someone to see the post who says... "Ah yes I used to use one of those":D
Terry

[DeanoH]

Terry, should your tool look like this with the green being the chain wrapped around the tube acting as a windlass ?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/12.jpg (http://s540.photobucket.com/user/DeanoH/media/Land%20Rover/IMG_1007a_zps8afb51e8.jpg.html)

Is it some sort of tyre bead breaker where the 'beak' is pulled into a wheel between the two tubes ?


Deano :)

[rover-56]

Good one Deano, problem is the part where you have the chain wrapped doesn't turn - only raises and lowers.

Not obvious in the photo I realise, the whole thing from base to handle is about 700mm, and the handle folds down against the body.

Winding the handle lifts the outer sleeve and the chain attachment away from the base, and pulls the side beak part inwards.

Interesting that it is painted the same colour as a lot of earthmoving equipment. May be something to do with fitting dozer tracks?.

I won't chuck it - It might turn out to be a wonderous labour saving gadget.:D

Terry

[rover-56]

Unit falls into this configuration really easily - makes me think it is for lifting a heavy wheel or something similar.
It would be a 2 person job lifting a heavy wheel, It is a bit wobbly.

Terry

[JDNSW]

That suggests another possibility - set vertically,and with the hook in the centre of a truck wheel, to lift it onto the hub?

John

[rover-56]

Yes, possibly, although the base looks like it should be on the ground.
The whole design looks a bit shaky for something like a wheel, I would be happier using a plank of wood, which I have done with a tractor rear wheel.
Maybe that's why it was in a forgotten dark corner.:D

Cheers,
Terry

[JDNSW]

Yes, possibly, although the base looks like it should be on the ground.
The whole design looks a bit shaky for something like a wheel, I would be happier using a plank of wood, which I have done with a tractor rear wheel.
Maybe that's why it was in a forgotten dark corner.:D

Cheers,
Terry

How about base on the ground, hook on the top edge of the rim, particularly for the truck rims that mount on a spider?

John

[rover-56]

How about base on the ground, hook on the top edge of the rim, particularly for the truck rims that mount on a spider?

John

Well, the problem is that the arm with the hook doesn't raise or lower, I suppose the base could be made to slide on the ground and raise the hook that way?
I am grabbing at straws here:)

Terry

[Tank]

I have never seen anything that is used to lift a spider rim and tyre onto the hub.
Lifting a spider hub type rim onto a spider hub is easier than fitting a small car tyre and rim onto a small car.
Lay a tyre lever (iron) on the ground where the centre of the tyre will be with only a third of the lever under the tyre, roll the tyre and rim into place, grab the other end of lever lift a few inches and the rim falls into place. It is so easy I could not imagine someone designing a tool (pictured) to do such a simple and easy job, so I don't think it is for fitting truck rims, Regards Frank.
P.S. BTW can be used for any type/size rim and tyre.

[rover-56]

Agree, same as my plank under the tractor wheel method.
I think this thing will get nailed to the shed wall, some visitor might recognise it.
Terry

[Roverlord off road spares]

Terry, should your tool look like this with the green being the chain wrapped around the tube acting as a windlass ?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/12.jpg (http://s540.photobucket.com/user/DeanoH/media/Land%20Rover/IMG_1007a_zps8afb51e8.jpg.html)

Is it some sort of tyre bead breaker where the 'beak' is pulled into a wheel between the two tubes ?


Deano :)

Deano you are supposed to be away??????