Batwing awning on their D3/4

[Redback]

OK I want to get a Rapid wing batwing awning for our D4, trouble is we fitted a cheapy to the left side of the car and the pole hits the rear door(plus ladder) when open, lifting it up off the ground, now looking at the design, it looks like if it is made to suit the drivers side that pole will miss the ladder, thus letting us buy and fit it.

Anyone have a batwing awning on their D3/4 that can show us how well they fit??

Baz.

[AnD3rew]

I have a Foxwing attached to my rhino platform on short legs and it is fine with the back door even when I reversed the brackets to make it sit lower.

[Redback]

I have a Foxwing attached to my rhino platform on short legs and it is fine with the back door even when I reversed the brackets to make it sit lower.

Hi Andrew, do you have your's driver side or passeger side and are you able to show us a pic with the rear door open, at your leasure of coarse.

This is the Rapid wing diagram pic, see the pole go across the rear door, that's were the ladder is, my sulotion is to have it come out the drivers side to avoid that pole.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[AnD3rew]

Hi Andrew, do you have your's driver side or passeger side and are you able to show us a pic with the rear door open, at your leasure of coarse.

This is the Rapid wing diagram pic, see the pole go across the rear door, that's were the ladder is, my sulotion is to have it come out the drivers side to avoid that pole.

http://www.supapeg.com.au//images/cms/rapidwing2400.jpg

Ah sorry I should have read your post more carefully, I don't have a ladder that might make it more tricky. The Foxwing appears to have exactly the same configuration as that. I will see if I can dig up a pic, but the Foxwing is off at the moment I I won't be home for a couple of weeks so can't take you one.

[AnD3rew]

This is the closest I can get to a pic that might be useful. I don't think you will have any issue with the main part of the ladder as there is enough give there to accommodate. It will be the top of the ladder which may cause grief. My bet is that with the Foxwing sitting up as it originally came it would probably clear but I would want to see it before I paid money.

[Redback]

That's brilliant, thanks for that, going on that pic, it should work putting it drivers side.

Baz.

[Redback]

OK fitted and I'm rapped, what a great piece of kit these awnings are, the quality is brilliant.

OK some pics of it set up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/Disco%204%20Amarok%20Mods/IMG_0919_zps5fa36f8f.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/Disco%204%20Amarok%20Mods/IMG_0919_zps5fa36f8f.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/Disco%204%20Amarok%20Mods/IMG_0913_zps3629840b.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/Disco%204%20Amarok%20Mods/IMG_0913_zps3629840b.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/Disco%204%20Amarok%20Mods/IMG_0912_zpsd77ae3b5.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/Disco%204%20Amarok%20Mods/IMG_0912_zpsd77ae3b5.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/Disco%204%20Amarok%20Mods/IMG_0911_zpsf4e427cd.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/Disco%204%20Amarok%20Mods/IMG_0911_zpsf4e427cd.jpg.html)

Baz.

[~Rich~]

Love the setup Baz, can 1 person put it up and down?

BTW - did your number plate fall off?

[jonesy63]

His number plate is on the jerry can holder - swung out of view. ;)

[Bytemrk]

Thanks Baz - what a brilliant looking bit of kit.

An awning is on my list ...some time after the roof rack..... looks like you just made the decision slightly more expensive :p

[LandyAndy]

Cheers Baz.
Any pics of it packed up????
What sort of coin are they going for,looks great.
Andrew

[Bytemrk]

Andy,

I found this: Rapid Wing (http://www.suparvaustralia.com.au/Rapid_Wing_s/46.htm)

I'd also like to see a picture of it packed up....

[Redback]

Love the setup Baz, can 1 person put it up and down?

BTW - did your number plate fall off?

Yes Rich one person can put it up, it's a breaze to put up.


Thanks Baz - what a brilliant looking bit of kit.

An awning is on my list ...some time after the roof rack..... looks like you just made the decision slightly more expensive :p

Yes they are pricey, but well worth it IMO.


Cheers Baz.
Any pics of it packed up????
What sort of coin are they going for,looks great.
Andrew

$849 + Postage Andy, $40, might be a bit more to WA though


Andy,

I found this: Rapid Wing (http://www.suparvaustralia.com.au/Rapid_Wing_s/46.htm)

I'd also like to see a picture of it packed up....

Here's a pic of one on another members car(Spence)packed up.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/886.jpg

Baz.

[connock]

Baz
What is it like in the wind? if you were swaging it under the wing and it came up windy and or rain , would you have to pack it up quickly?


connock

[scarry]

They are very difficult to put up or take down when it is windy,but rain is no problem.And once up,if it is windy,it has to be well secured.
In fact with my foxing,i will take it down if it is a windy night,as there needs to be someone keeping an eye on it during very windy weather.

[to76]

They are very difficult to put up or take down when it is windy,but rain is no problem.And once up,if it is windy,it has to be well secured.
In fact with my foxing,i will take it down if it is a windy night,as there needs to be someone keeping an eye on it during very windy weather.

I'd have to agree with that. Used to have a Foxwing and whilst it was easy to setup and pack away on nice days, it became a 3-person PITA job once the wind hit. I sold it for that reason.

[BMKal]

Thanks for the pics Baz. Exactly what I was looking for. The ladder on the back had me guessing too. ;)

[Redback]

Well from everyone I've spoken too on this subject, it's a 2 person job in windy conditions, but once up, not an issue, there are no ropes with the Rapid Wing, the awning is secured by pegs(2) in the bottom of each pole.

When I spoke to Supapeg, they said you can add ropes if it gets too extreme, but otherwise not really needed.

Any awning no matter what brand will be affected by strong wind, I have camped with various people of the years with different types of awnings, most have survived strong winds, apart from one incident with a mate and his Foxwing, but he still had those piddley standard ropes, the Foxwing does tend to flap alot in the wind and you do need to use more ropes to secure it, if it had poles that could be pegged into the ground at the base, I think that would help a lot.

Anyway I'm happy with the Rapid Wing.

Rapid wing Awning by SUPA-PEG - YouTube

Baz.

[AnD3rew]

I've had my Foxwing up in pretty windy weather and it does need two people to put it out or away safely in the wind, but it is as secure as any awning or tent in the wind and that means it is dependent on how well you have it pegged and tied down.

I love my Foxwing and have had not problems at all with it. I have heard of people who for whatever reason have had their a flip over in the wind and this breaks the knuckles on the spreaders, but apparently they are readily available and easy to replace.

[weeds]

if you are on the beach than you need ropes........sand pegs wont fit through the holes in the feet of the poles. ours launched over the car with two ropes and sand pegs.

no wind is a piece of cake with one person, two if its windy, we have the supa wing which is an extra pole and spreader bar

we pre-set the poles to the height required and attach the straps than roll out the wing

I looked at the fox but decided on canvas....on moreton the fox wing next to us did flap in the breeze, it could have been they way they set it up.

I now carry spare knuckles.....I away put one rope on regardless of ground surface, in saying that 90% of times its been but up is when we are on the beach for the day, have never set it up when back at the camper or lunch stops

I believe they have improved the design of the cover since mine, mine leaks water in so I have to unzip it at times to let it dry out so that mould does starts

its a big investment....but a worthwhile one

[Redback]

I've had my Foxwing up in pretty windy weather and it does need two people to put it out or away safely in the wind, but it is as secure as any awning or tent in the wind and that means it is dependent on how well you have it pegged and tied down.

I love my Foxwing and have had not problems at all with it. I have heard of people who for whatever reason have had their a flip over in the wind and this breaks the knuckles on the spreaders, but apparently they are readily available and easy to replace.

My friend with the Foxwing has had no dramas since that one incident(first proper set up) he uses a better quality guy rope now and also makes sure it is tied down properly, he was the reason I got interested in the Batwing awning in the first place, I'd never seen one before, the main reason we chose the Rapid-Wing was it was canvas, there are so many out there now and it wasn't until I started searching, that I realised how many there were:eek:

Baz.

[connock]

It was the light weight design that turned me away , I decided to get the Hannibal awning , no poles and no ropes, led lights in the stays and you can move your car with it up so its down wind. Mind you I have had it up in some fierce wind no drama . Packs up and sets up by myself under 1 min even in the wind. I love it
Smaller than the others but you can fit walls that come out on the angle so the footprint is quite large. I've had 4 single swags under mine .
connock

[to76]

I decided to get the Hannibal awning

How do you find it in the rain, given that you can't lower a leg to create and angle for the water to run off?

[Redback]

It was the light weight design that turned me away , I decided to get the Hannibal awning , no poles and no ropes, led lights in the stays and you can move your car with it up so its down wind. Mind you I have had it up in some fierce wind no drama . Packs up and sets up by myself under 1 min even in the wind. I love it
Smaller than the others but you can fit walls that come out on the angle so the footprint is quite large. I've had 4 single swags under mine .
connock

Hannibal make a batwing awning:confused: and this thread is not about a normal awning, this is about finding info on a batwing awning to fit the D4, as it has an upward opening door, which I have now solved.

Aside from that we also have a Bob Burrage side awning, it's 2.5m x 5.0m, made in Australia as well as the Rapid-Wing by Supa-Peg, nothing lightweight about either awning.

I've seen the Hannibal awning, it's small, especially the rear awning, $900 for a 1.3m x 1.4m awning:eek: and I didn't see anything special about it when comparing it to other awnings of it's type.

Yes the free standing is a good idea, and yes they are well built, but with that you lose area for weight and bulk and IMO way over priced.

4 single swags under 2.0m x 2.4m awning, must have been good friends;)

Our double swag 1400mm x 1100mm under our 2.4m x 5.0m awning
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/IMG_5998.jpg.html)

Baz.

[connock]

Hannibal make a batwing awning:confused: and this thread is not about a normal awning, this is about finding info on a batwing awning to fit the D4, as it has an upward opening door, which I have now solved.

Aside from that we also have a Bob Burrage side awning, it's 2.5m x 5.0m, made in Australia as well as the Rapid-Wing by Supa-Peg, nothing lightweight about either awning.

I've seen the Hannibal awning, it's small, especially the rear awning, $900 for a 1.3m x 1.4m awning:eek: and I didn't see anything special about it when comparing it to other awnings of it's type.

Yes the free standing is a good idea, and yes they are well built, but with that you lose area for weight and bulk and IMO way over priced.

4 single swags under 2.0m x 2.4m awning, must have been good friends;)

Our double swag 1400mm x 1100mm under our 2.4m x 5.0m awning
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/IMG_5998.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/IMG_5998.jpg.html)

Baz.

WOW Baz sorry I spoke It was only my opinion and if you call my wife and two kids good friends you would be right. If you also read the bit about the walls coming out on angle the area on the ground is quite large. not sure why you have so many awnings or you just trying to get it right???


connock

[connock]

How do you find it in the rain, given that you can't lower a leg to create and angle for the water to run off?



The water does tend to pond a bit in one corner or the other ( outside cnr,s) but just spills off . If the walls are on as they fit just inside of the edges the water then runs down the outside of the walls.


connock

[Redback]

WOW Baz sorry I spoke It was only my opinion and if you call my wife and two kids good friends you would be right. If you also read the bit about the walls coming out on angle the area on the ground is quite large. not sure why you have so many awnings or you just trying to get it right???


connock

Sorry If it sounded like I was having a go, cause I wasn't and yes you are entitled to your opinion, my point was, it isn't about who's awning is better, it's about trying to get info on whether a Batwing awning would fit the D4.

We have no trouble with our side awning, we have had this awning on 3 vehicles, it is 10yrs old and we have only had the bag replaced in that time, the design is similar to the Batwing awning, in that there is no pooling of water, and a major reason we chose both awnings, nearly 3yrs went into deciding which Batwing awning to get, unfortunately Hannibal don't make a Batwing awning.

But you did open the door to an opinion on your comment of our awning:p

Baz.