The carney photo

[olbod]

Saw the tod carney photo a while ago and I must say that thugby league players are a class act.
They should make him captain.

[Mick_Marsh]

Says a lot about their beer.

[Redback]

I bought tennis shoes today.

Baz.

[bob10]

For those who don't know, this is what it is about. It must be said, it hasn't been proved to be genuine. But, Andrew Johns is sticking up for him. Another class act from NSW. Bob


Andrew Johns defends Todd Carney in lewd photo scandal (http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/andrew-johns-defends-todd-carney-in-lewd-photo-scandal-20140629-zsq0a.html)

[BathurstTom]

I've seen the photo and he is one SICK puppy :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:. According to some Cronulla fans he has been out of control most of the year. Cronulla have sacked him. Apparently the NRL and a couple of the newspapers have had copies of the photo for the last couple of days prior to taking action. Rumours are that the photo has been checked by said organisations and they believe that it is real.


Tom.

[Ausfree]

Yawn!!!!! Yet another brainless rugby League player getting into trouble for something stupid. We'll get the usual apology and promises not to do it again, no doubt.

[weeds]

So they have a good win followed by a few beers.........haven't we all done silly things with a few beers under our belt.........Not that I have tried what Todd did though

Obviously would have been better if the pic wasn't posted on the net.

Look at Warnie, has a few beers after a game, sucks down a few cigs, pulls a root and it makes headlines.

It a tough gig being a modern day sportsman.......

[Ranga]

As some would say, the crime's in getting caught. He either is pretty stupid, or has a poor choice of friends who leaked (pun intended) that photo.

Not to mention he's got a pretty dodgy past. I thought part of the reason he gets paid ~$650k a year was to uphold the image of the club. Can't see any real problem with them sacking him, but I'm not going to sit here and judge him.

I think it says more about social media applications, and why they're so dangerous, than anything else.

[V8Ian]

Look at Warnie, has a few beers after a game, sucks down a few cigs, pulls a root and it makes headlines.

It a tough gig being a modern day sportsman.......

And that's the problem with some sportspeople, the bogans are happy to take the big bucks but not the responsibilities.

[RHS58]

Harsh penalty.. Only taking the **** out of himself.

[incisor]

And that's the problem with some sportspeople, the bogans are happy to take the big bucks but not the responsibilities.

you got it in one

these guys whether they want to be or not are role models...

as for the drug cheat defending him....


pretty much says it all, sadly

[bob10]

To put it mildly, he has a problem. Is it Cronullas' responsibility to see Carny gets appropriate help? Or do they kick him out the door, good riddance, don't come back? On the other side of the coin, how do people feel about this? ;


Scout Willis continues Free the Nipple campaign (http://www.dailylife.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/ls-celebrity-news/scout-willis-continues-free-the-nipple-campaign-20140603-zrvng.html)

[incisor]

On the other side of the coin, how do people feel about this? ;


Scout Willis continues Free the Nipple campaign (http://www.dailylife.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/ls-celebrity-news/scout-willis-continues-free-the-nipple-campaign-20140603-zrvng.html)
it's attention seeking ;)

[Ean Austral]

Personally I struggle with what all the fuss is about.

He gets a pic taking of him trying to **** in his mouth, the only person he has hurt is himself. I would be questioning the so called friends he has, and he will have to face all the **** jokes that will come with it for the rest of his life, but big deal.

Its not like he drove a car full as a boot and wiped someone out, or picked a fight with the cops and ended up in the clink.

I didnt read that the sharks had put him on a total alcohol ban and a curfew.

Sportsperson or not, he is entitled to his life, and if thats the stupid stuff he does then the only person he is hurting is himself and his family.

How much money he earns has nothing to do with, and personally I think its **** weak of the sharks to dump him.

Personally putting him on the field in front of a packed crowd and making him suffer the humiliation of listening to the jokes and jibes would be far more punishing than anything else.

The club knew he had issues when they signed him, what steps have they taken to help him prior to this happening. Thats what I would like to know.

just my 2c worth of course.

Cheers Ean

[bob10]

it's attention seeking ;)


And with Carney, as well, I think, Bob

[olbod]

I am glad girls have boobs, they wouldn't be the same without them.

[bob10]

Well, his agent would say that. The person/people who took the photo, & distributed it should be out the door with him, Bob


http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/todd-carneys-agent-says-lewd-image-of-his-client-is-set-up-and-he-has-paid-a-very-heavy-price/story-e6frf3uc-1226972010213

[weeds]

Can recall a few players doing far worse with little or no action.....bashing there wife/girlfriend, rape, drugs the list goes on

[davidsonsm]

Yep - was shown the picture earlier. Some things can't be unseen. Disgusting/disturbing. Wish I could erase the image.

[V8Ian]

it's attention seeking ;)

She has mine. ;):D
But I think there's a time and place for everything. Free access should be G rated.

[Bigbjorn]

50 years ago young sportsmen did stupid things but the media only cared about their performances on the sporting field or their injuries. The press were not constantly on the lookout for behaviour that could be made into a scandal and a salacious story. It is not just the young sportspeople that act up like this, but a considerable proportion of their peers also. Too much money, little life experience, near all night drinking and dance clubs all play a part.

[bob10]

50 years ago, or yesterday, condoning these incidents is wrong. If it were your son, doing it, or daughter putting up with it, would you turn a blind eye? 50 years ago, retribution could be taken, & was. That wasn't reported either. Try it now. Bob

[Jeff]

I hope he doesn't take the usual footballer's way of the teary apology, he should stand up and tell everyone to get stuffed, if you want monkeys, occasionally they throw their poo. Won't happen, he will sook and apologise in the hope he will get another $650,000 a year contract.

Might regret getting those neck tattoos, now he will have to get a real job:eek:

Like the RMC Skype scandal, the problem is not footballers, the problem is the media. Perhaps such technology should only be in the hands of nerds, as they wouldn't have mates who photograph them urinating, or film them having sex with officer cadets.

Jeff

:rocket:

[PAT303]

He is representing a club,his employer,also Rugby League.If he worked for any other company and acted like that he would be sacked no questions asked.He was paid a lot of money and whether he likes it or not he has responsibilities to his employer even though he might not be at work,companies employ staff to watch facetube and twater and all those other stupid you need a life type of sites to keep an eye on their employee's,you can be sacked without comeback for posts made about your employer,if your wearing work cloths or in any way discredit your employer.I don't feel sorry for him,he's just another dumb tool out for publicity. Pat

[Ausfree]

The thing is, this idiot is 28 years old, not 8 years old. He is a man ( not mentally apparently) so at what stage does he grow up. He has now been sacked by three clubs and he still doesn't get it.

[Ean Austral]

He is representing a club,his employer,also Rugby League.If he worked for any other company and acted like that he would be sacked no questions asked.He was paid a lot of money and whether he likes it or not he has responsibilities to his employer even though he might not be at work,companies employ staff to watch facetube and twater and all those other stupid you need a life type of sites to keep an eye on their employee's,you can be sacked without comeback for posts made about your employer,if your wearing work cloths or in any way discredit your employer.I don't feel sorry for him,he's just another dumb tool out for publicity. Pat


Under what rule Pat ?. If the company I work for tried to sack me for a photo taken of me doing something to myself, wearing clothes that don't have the company displayed on them and im my time, they would be in court faster than Bolt runs the 100mtrs


He done this act to himself, he didn't violate anyones privacy by filming them without their knowledge and display it to all and sundry.


Personally I think people caught drink driving is a far worse crime, but don't see many getting sacked for that.


I don't like Carney or what he did , but its nothing that has hurt anyone but himself.


Cheers Ean

[Debacle]

Urine therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lots of people do this every day (most put it in a glass first though)

I remember quite a few years ago on jjj, I think it was Steve Cannane tried it on national radio and no one raised an eyebrow.

Carney needs to look at who he hangs round with. Anyone who posts that on social media is not a mate.

[Jeff]

Are you saying he should just take it on the chin? :angel:

Jeff

:rocket:

[Ean Austral]

Urine therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine_therapy)

Lots of people do this every day (most put it in a glass first though)

I remember quite a few years ago on jjj, I think it was Steve Cannane tried it on national radio and no one raised an eyebrow.

Carney needs to look at who he hangs round with. Anyone who posts that on social media is not a mate.


Jim Steins from Melbourne footy club ( I think , appologies if I have the wrong club) did it on the AFL footy show as a remedy to try and beat his cancer, didn't see the show get pulled from TV either.


Cheers Ean

[davidsonsm]

What happened to "what goes on tour stays on tour". How did the picture get leaked? It's an idiotic act. But why does the world need to see it.

Not surprised he got sacked given his track record. As a high profile professional sports person, he has a responsibility to act as a role model. Fat chance.

[PAT303]

Under what rule Pat ?. If the company I work for tried to sack me for a photo taken of me doing something to myself, wearing clothes that don't have the company displayed on them and im my time, they would be in court faster than Bolt runs the 100mtrs


He done this act to himself, he didn't violate anyones privacy by filming them without their knowledge and display it to all and sundry.


Personally I think people caught drink driving is a far worse crime, but don't see many getting sacked for that.


I don't like Carney or what he did , but its nothing that has hurt anyone but himself.


Cheers Ean

He brought his club and League into disrepute,can be sacked,was sacked on the spot. Pat

[V8Ian]

His mate snapped it (allegedly unknown) on his phone, then lost the phone at the races. :angel:

[Ausfree]

His mate snapped it (allegedly unknown) on his phone, then lost the phone at the races. :angel:

What a load of crock,lost his phone at the races,eh. With friends like him, who needs enemies.!!! I guess you can tell what a person is like by the company he keeps.

[Ean Austral]

He brought his club and League into disrepute,can be sacked,was sacked on the spot. Pat


I high lighted the line where you said if he worked for any other company he would be sacked no questions asked, hence my question under what rule.


I personally fail to see how rugby league has been bought into disrepute. The club, sure , they can ask as many questions as they like, and by his lack of legal action his contract must be very specific on his behaviour.


From my simple mind, the only person he has harmed is himself, people are still going to turn up to games, so the game hasn't been affected 1 bit.


From his club point of view, put it to the members, if they say they will abandon the club if he stays then fair call.


As I said earlier, I don't follow league , so couldn't care less, but personally someone driving drunk is far more serious in my eyes, but haven't seen any contracts torn up over that.


Cheers Ean

[ramblingboy42]

how many young children have smartphones and can access that material?

it's not a parental controlled locked site.

at what age do you think it's appropriate...if at all....for children to see images like that?

Carney has **** in his own nest as well as ****ed in his own mouth.

I wouldn't be surprised to see reprimands go further

[Ean Austral]

how many young children have smartphones and can access that material?

it's not a parental controlled locked site.

at what age do you think it's appropriate...if at all....for children to see images like that?

Carney has **** in his own nest as well as ****ed in his own mouth.

I wouldn't be surprised to see reprimands go further

Kids can go onto google and type in Sex with Animals and see far worse pictures than Carney's.. I seen them doing it on a bus and passing the phone around.

Google has far more accessable stuff for kids that isnt restricted or as restricted as you think.

Cheers Ean

[bob10]

We live in a sick World. Not being a nightclub person, I had no idea about the latest night club phase, " the bubbler". From Chris Garry, Courier Mail, Monday, 30 June. ;


" The Bubbler first gained popularity after a Melbourne man was photographed performing the act in a mosh pit of a heavy metal concert this year. The photo went viral on the Worlds most popular news forum, Reddit, with readers around the globe shocked by the " bubbler ". Just one week ago, popular on line news site Vice, which specialises in revealing the Worlds bizarre practises, wrote a piece on the " bubblers increasing popularity in Australia.


" This is real. I have friends who have done this, mostly while drunk for a laugh. In Brisbane we call it the human bubbler, commentator K... C .... wrote in response to the Vice article. " The origins of the bubbler are unknown, but it has been a staple of footy tours for the past year......... Carney is far from the first man to bubble. It is an increasing popular way to show off among young males. Yes, urinating in your own mouth is a thing, and Australia invented it. "


It goes on to say about Carney " An ex-alcoholic who once urinated on a team mates friend and ran away from an RBT van, Carney has done far worse than this. He has escaped punishment for acts that have severely effected the lives of others. There are NRL players who will star for their clubs this weekend who weren't sacked despite repeated court appearances. " As for Carney, he says " Sacking him is too high a price to pay. Yes, even for Carney. When does the photographer suffer consequences for publishing offending material? . Your son's friend or mate's younger brother has probably tried the bubbler, which is typically performed in front of friends, and elicits a cheer if the stream reaches the persons lips. "


I struggle to understand the attraction of the " bubbler". It's a mad, mad, World. Bob

[olbod]

When we were kids at Horsley Park we used to have pee contests.
Idea was to see who could pee the highest up a wall or a tree for accuracy.
The girls always beat us.

[PAT303]

I high lighted the line where you said if he worked for any other company he would be sacked no questions asked, hence my question under what rule.


I personally fail to see how rugby league has been bought into disrepute. The club, sure , they can ask as many questions as they like, and by his lack of legal action his contract must be very specific on his behaviour.


From my simple mind, the only person he has harmed is himself, people are still going to turn up to games, so the game hasn't been affected 1 bit.


From his club point of view, put it to the members, if they say they will abandon the club if he stays then fair call.


As I said earlier, I don't follow league , so couldn't care less, but personally someone driving drunk is far more serious in my eyes, but haven't seen any contracts torn up over that.


Cheers Ean

Have you seen the news,the club and league have been brought into it,it's not just about the bloke,it's about all parties involved.He has no comeback on this. Pat

[incisor]

When we were kids at Horsley Park we used to have pee contests.
Idea was to see who could pee the highest up a wall or a tree for accuracy.
The girls always beat us.

like the old joke

the nuns always hit the roof :p

[Redback]

I high lighted the line where you said if he worked for any other company he would be sacked no questions asked, hence my question under what rule.


I personally fail to see how rugby league has been bought into disrepute. The club, sure , they can ask as many questions as they like, and by his lack of legal action his contract must be very specific on his behaviour.


From my simple mind, the only person he has harmed is himself, people are still going to turn up to games, so the game hasn't been affected 1 bit.


From his club point of view, put it to the members, if they say they will abandon the club if he stays then fair call.


As I said earlier, I don't follow league , so couldn't care less, but personally someone driving drunk is far more serious in my eyes, but haven't seen any contracts torn up over that.


Cheers Ean

Yep and one of the reasons he was sacked by one of the previous clubs he was in, so any slip ups again and he was out, he's been given numerous chances and still he does stupid things, was this minor, yes, but, he was warned, I guess they have had enough of his stupidity.

Personally I couldn't care less, just another stupid League player.

Baz.

[davidsonsm]

Its a good job social media wasn't around when we were lads playing team sports.

Even so, I only ever played amateur team sport, so any indiscretions on my part weren't that newsworthy (it was all fish and chip paper the next day anyway). Whereas, professional sports people are expected to uphold completely different standards - and rightly so - their livelihood depends on it and they set the example to kids. They have a brand to manage, for themselves, for their employer and for the sport.

Wonder how Carney will sustain his lifestyle now.

[RHS58]

Well he won't go thirsty:wasntme:

[davidsonsm]

He could join the circus that specialises in "puppetry of the penis".

[AndyG]

Confirms my opinion about rugby and all who make these clowns heros.
And don't call them sportsmen, they are professional entertainers.

[korg20000bc]

What must Steve Rogers think...

[ramblingboy42]

who is Steve Rogers? did he do something "lewd" as well?

now what would Roy Rogers think?.....there's a clean cut image.

[BathurstTom]

Well, I guess if you were to follow Carneys example, you wouldn't need to get out of bed on a cold night....


Tom.

[korg20000bc]

who is Steve Rogers? did he do something "lewd" as well?

now what would Roy Rogers think?.....there's a clean cut image.
Steve Rogers (rugby league) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/1200.jpg

[bob10]

Confirms my opinion about rugby and all who make these clowns heros.
And don't call them sportsmen, they are professional entertainers.


That's a big call. An uninformed one as well. The point you seem to have missed is, this craze was started by some one unknown, in a night club in Melbourne. And now , young people from all walks of life are doing the " bubbler". Yes Carney is a loose cannon, but he would be a loose cannon , no matter what profession he was in. Do you know what your children/ grand children are up to, when out on the town? [ I'm assuming you have children/ grand children, apologies if not so] Bob

[bob10]

Steve rogers was a great player, and a nice bloke to go with it. He was a member of a NSW Police rugby side in the 70's [ even though he played rugby league] along with Bill Hamilton, and the fullback for Penrith,[ can't remember his name] at the time who played our side in a warm up game before going to NZ to play the NZ Police rugby side. We won't talk about the result, I've never seen any one so quick off the mark. Bob

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Steve Rogers (rugby league) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Rogers_%28rugby_league%29)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/1200.jpg

I was lucky enough to have seen nearly all of his games for Cronulla. :TakeABow:
Rogers and Fulton were unbeatable for the kangaroos

[bob10]

I was lucky enough to have seen nearly all of his games for Cronulla. :TakeABow:
Rogers and Fulton were unbeatable for the kangaroos


Pedro, he was a gentleman. In the truest sense of the word. Bob

[bob10]

Talking about Bob Fulton, when he & some mates did National Service, it was the best team Combined Services had. From wiki. ;


National Service

Fulton was conscripted into the Army in 1968 and allotted to artillery. He was effectively exempted from active service by being posted to Sydney-based 5RAR, which had recently returned from Vietnam, thereby enabling him to pursue his professional football career while technically fulfilling his national service obligation.


A short history of ASRU.


http://www.servicesrugby.asn.au/sites/default/files/sample_gallery.png
Australian Services Rugby Union - Early Years

On the 25th July 1829, some six years after William Webb Ellis's epoch making feat, the Sydney Monitor recorded that: "The soldiers of the Sydney Barracks amused themselves with a game of football." That was the advent of Rugby Union in the forefather of the Australian Defence Force (ADF).

Speculation exists that rugby was first played by the military as a diversion from other erstwhile and less healthy pastimes. Services teams emerged during the World Wars, perhaps none more so than the 1st AIF team which, in 1919, won 12 of its 16 encounters, including wins over the NSW, Queensland and Australian teams. Representative rugby union in the ADF did not take on any great significance until the 1950s. Throughout the 1950s, Combined Services played a number of touring teams, including the Fijians in 1950 and the All Blacks in 1951. However, it was not until 1963 that a formal Australian Services Rugby Union came into being.

Gradually progress was made, and in 1968 ASRU was honoured with a match against the touring All Blacks team. In this particular match, one Lance Bombardier Bob Fulton took the field for ASRU…only two days after he played for the Kangaroos in the Rugby League World Cup Final! This match was a true indication that ASRU had come of age as a representative Union.
Throughout the late 1960s and 1970s, National Service had a great impact on Services Rugby, ending in 1972 with victories against strong Sydney and Queensland sides. 1980 saw ASRU’s strongest side since 1972, and was the inaugural year of what is now an annual event – the Australian Services Rugby Championship, which is contested between Navy, Army and Air Force. The 1980 ASRU team recorded an 18-7 victory over an ACT side in which a young fellow named David Campese made his senior debut.

During the 1980s, ASRU met with mixed fortunes and could not repeat their achievements of 1972 and 1980. The turning point came in 1992, when what was arguably the best side ASRU had fielded in 20 years, recorded a 21-9 win over the Sydney representative team. Following that win, ASRU ventured to the USA and swept all before them.
Highlights across the past 20 years include making the final of the 1993 Southern States Carnival, the exceptional 1994 tour of the UK, which saw ASRU defeat Royal Navy, British Army, and Royal Air Force, and lose a very close encounter with UK Combined Services, winning the Healthway International Cup in Perth in 1995, victories over NSW Country in 1994 and 1997, victory at the Arafura Games in 1999, and making the final of the inaugural International Defence Rugby Competition in 2011.

An important development in recent years has been the emergence of an ASRU Women's team. Annually, the ASRU Women’s team competes in the Australian Rugby Union Women’s National Championship and has had players selected in the Australian Wallaroos team. Kate Porter is ASRU’s most capped Wallaroos player. In 2010, Kate and Caroline Vakalahi competed at the IRB Women’s Rugby World Cup as members of the Wallaroos team. The ASRU Women’s team highest and proudest achievement to date was their grand slam tour of the UK in 2012. On that tour, they were victorious against Royal Navy, British Army, Royal Air Force, and UK Combined Services.

Rugby continues to enjoy patronage as the prestige sport within the ADF. Service men and women have reached the highest levels of representative rugby, including all states and Australia. At the modern provincial level, the ADF's highest profile serving player was Captain Murray Harley who was a member of the founding ACT Brumbies team in the mid 1990s.


Former Army Sapper, Jim Williams is the most recent Australian Wallaby representative. A former Chairman of ASRU, Brigadier Bob Brown, was also a Wallaby.

[korg20000bc]

I was lucky enough to have seen nearly all of his games for Cronulla. :TakeABow:
Rogers and Fulton were unbeatable for the kangaroos
Good ol' Sludge!

Cronulla SUTHERLAND, as most seem to forget. My old stomping ground.
:)

[Ean Austral]

Have you seen the news,the club and league have been brought into it,it's not just about the bloke,it's about all parties involved.He has no comeback on this. Pat


So what was different when the news reports Paul Gallon questions whether the coach is suitable for the club. If every person who made the news that involved their club and Rugby League, there would be hardly anyone left to play.

all the news I seen mention Carney, not his club or the league and when the league boss was asked he said it was a decision the club should make.

If that was the league bosses response how has the game been bought into disrepute.

These are just my thoughts, and I believe that far to much has been made of what is really just a stupid act performed on himself which has hurt no-one but himself.

He is obviously going to be far poorer for it.

Cheers Ean