Glowing a 4BDI

[mick88]

What's is the glowing procedure for a ex mil 110 (Isuzu engine)?
No glow light on the dash, an aftermarket ignition fitted, glo plugs fitted to the motor...confusing!
I assume it's an instant glo!




Cheers, Mick.

[Mick_Marsh]

I found that as well. Do they have glow plugs? Mine starts pretty much immediately.

[p38arover]

I found that as well. Do they have glow plugs? Mine starts pretty much immediately.

I think they do. When I wired in a new ignition lock switch recently http://www.aulro.com/afvb/coil-sprung-military-land-rovers/199311-fitting-steering-lock-perentie.html , I disconnected the glow plugs as there wasn't a position on the new switch for the glow plugs.

[Mick_Marsh]

The keyless switch mine came with has three positions.
Off, on and start. After operating start it spring returns to on. There does not seem to be a glow position.

[Phil B]

I believe the glow plugs on the 4BD1 are controlled by a relay that actuates in the "on" position on the ignition switch and switches off after a set time (5 seconds?)
Phil

[Bigbjorn]

You turn the key to the 4th. position and hold it for a few seconds. My glow plugs are not connected and so far (eight years) I have found no need for them. The 4BD1 just starts up immediately when cold.

[JDNSW]

There is no timer on the glow plugs, about twenty seconds is supposed to be about right - but as Brian suggests, I don't think there is anywhere in Australia cold enough to need them. If you need them to start, you need to either get a new battery or fix the starter/electrical problem.

John

[weeds]

On the army rigs you hold the ignition half way between on and start from memory and a light will come.

It has to be pretty cold before you get any real benefit.....if you battery is low than glowing can help start the motor.

[87County]

On the army rigs you hold the ignition half way between on and start from memory and a light will come.

It has to be pretty cold before you get any real benefit.....if you battery is low than glowing can help start the motor.

On these colder than -deg C mornings I generally give any of them (2 civ + 2 mil here) 12-15 secs just to save wear & tear on the starter - it may or may not be worthwhile.

In a mil 110 if your "glow " indicator (the "choke " symbol) isn't working you can tell that you have turned to the "glow" position when all the instruments turn off before the "start" position.

The other thing that seems to then assist an immediate start is to hold the accel down just a smidgen while starting - other experts have told me that it makes no difference but I'll rock the boat and say that IME it does.

[isuzurover]

The 4BD1(T) if in good condition with a good battery should start instantly at any temperature found on the Australian mainland.

[123rover50]

Likewise.
Mine are not wired up.
Never need them.

[Vern]

Needed mine for the initial start up of the engine as it hadn't been started in over 4 years, never needed them again:)

[Mick_Marsh]

The 4BD1(T) if in good condition with a good battery should start instantly at any temperature found on the Australian mainland.
Mine has been so far. Mind you, we get rather bland weather here.

[rar110]

Currently at Stanthorpe. Mine was at 12.4v and started ok this morning despite being about 0 degrees.

[Dougal]

4BD1T starting fine in - 10c without glow plugs. Needs some throttle to keep running at that temp though.

[Blknight.aus]

the glow plug position is halfway between accessories and start.

if everything is ok then the glow plugs are only there to fill the holes in the head that some idiot drilled in there to install the otherwise unrequired glow plugs.

Ive had them start with an effective temp of -35 without glow plugs (temperature after calculated wind chill)

Dont count on the heater being any good for you at those temps, the engine will be bloody lucky to warm up.

If you're doing prolonged operations in cold climate areas or short runs in cold cimates fit a cotton sheet over the radiator grill or a double layer of 80% shade cloth. Check your oil condition regularly it will sludge up faster with cold running.

[Dougal]

(temperature after calculated wind chill)

It's only silly moist warm things like humans that care about wind-chill. Engines don't give a damn.

[mick88]

On the army rigs you hold the ignition half way between on and start from memory and a light will come.

It has to be pretty cold before you get any real benefit.....if you battery is low than glowing can help start the motor.


Your on the money "Weeds"
I tried this today and the choke symbol lit up.
About 15 seconds then cranked it along with a touch of throttle as "87County" said, instant start, has to be much kinder on the starter motor and battery.


Thanks for the accurate information.


Cheers, Mick.

[debruiser]

Dredging up an old thread....

Just got my 110 from minto. Had trouble starting because of what looked like a flat battery, tow started easy as pie. Bought a new battery and got a couple nice starts then back to hard to start, thinking I'll try this glow proceedure and see.

What electrical issue are you referring to?

[123rover50]

I have two 4BD1,s and the GP,s are never needed let alone connected.
Now the 6.2 Chev in the camper is another story:(

[Bearman]

Dredging up an old thread....

Just got my 110 from minto. Had trouble starting because of what looked like a flat battery, tow started easy as pie. Bought a new battery and got a couple nice starts then back to hard to start, thinking I'll try this glow proceedure and see.

What electrical issue are you referring to?

I would be looking at a fuel or starter issue not glow plugs mate. 4BD1's don't need glow plugs even in sub zero temps. I never had them connected in my County