Puma Defender Turbo Hose Recall Notice...Who's Received one?

[MuzzyDelta90]

My D90 is currently in for it's 2nd service - no dramas there, but the dealer said that there is a recall and they will be replacing the turbo hose. Haven't got my letter from Land Rover yet, so it must a fairly recent recall. I wonder if this is the turbo hose that falls off all the time - mine came off early in the piece and it was sent back to the Dealer to be fixed under warranty. Getting a tow bar installed as well - yes, I know that the Dealer isn't the cheapest around, but it's just so convenient to get it done whilst it is in the shop as I don't have the time to shop around and take it somewhere.
cheers

Andrew

[Leroy_Riding]

Ill have to ask Austral about this when I drop it of to them for its next service.

[Sheppie]

Bet its what happened to mine, The hose delaminates and blocks the airflow to the intercooler.
When you look at the engine it is the hose near the RH front headlight (or in that vicinity anyway, there is a post relating to this and my adventures that I put up pretty recently.

[NT5224]

Hey, I read something about this recall on Defender2.

So far had no probs with Hector's turbo hose but because we live remote would rather go for the replacement -before he spits the damn thing!

Could somebody post a copy of the recall notification letter? I'm overseas at present and my mail is being diverted to my inlaws.

Good on Land Rover for finally acknowledging the turbo hose issue and instigating a recall. We all love a good whinge about LR, but at the end of the day they seem to do better by us than Toynisswoo do for their customers. :arms:

Cheers

Alan

[jimr1]

Ill have to ask Austral about this when I drop it of to them for its next service.
Hi Leroy, makes me think could that have been your problem jimr1 ..

[Leroy_Riding]

Hi Leroy, makes me think could that have been your problem jimr1 ..
haha, I would hope this wasn't my issue, seeing as it took them 9 weeks. . . its already bad enough it took them that long to do what they did, little own to find out the turbo hose was at fault, so has anyone else got a recall letter yet? I haven't received one?

[ProjectDirector]

My D90 is currently in for it's 2nd service - no dramas there, but the dealer said that there is a recall and they will be replacing the turbo hose. Haven't got my letter from Land Rover yet, so it must a fairly recent recall. I wonder if this is the turbo hose that falls off all the time - mine came off early in the piece and it was sent back to the Dealer to be fixed under warranty. Getting a tow bar installed as well - yes, I know that the Dealer isn't the cheapest around, but it's just so convenient to get it done whilst it is in the shop as I don't have the time to shop around and take it somewhere.
cheers

Andrew

Hi, if you dont mind asking, what are they charging for the tow bar because I want to get them to put one on Def 110 too.

[Lagerfan]

Hi, if you dont mind asking, what are they charging for the tow bar because I want to get them to put one on Def 110 too.

Our dealer wanted an embarrassing amount to fit a tow bar to our 90 so I followed the advice in this thread: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/148633-my12-defender-90-towbar.html and got a genuine LR part from Melbourne City LR parts dept for $400. Got Opposite Lock to fit it for me for $180, which was a bit steep but I needed it doing and all in was still less than a third the price the dealer quoted!!!

[LoveB]

Might go down that route because the dealer quoted 2500 for a towbar with the electrics/elec brake!!!!

[MuzzyDelta90]

Well, I picked up my D90 yesterday afternoon and the service all went well - the usual stuff. Apparently the recall also included the radiator hose - haven't seen the letter either, but they replaced both the turbo and radiator hose. Don't know what the problem was and the guy in the Dealers didn't really say all that much. However, I was happy with everything and that is the main thing.

The tow-bar cost me $1200 fitted - yes, yes, I know that it's a lot dearer than buying it yourself and getting it fitted, but as I mentioned previously, I am paying for the convenience - I am really time poor at the moment and it was just so much easier to get it done then and there. However, it's all done now and I am happy with the result.
cheers
Andrew

[LoveB]

well 1200 is better than 2500! lol

could you PM me which dealer this was? I have mine booked in for friday to do the a/c,turbo hose and intake plate. might as well do the radiator if theres a recall on them. they said they only need a full day

[Loubrey]

I have never seen a recall letter from LRA in the 3 years I've had my 90...

The car goes in for a service and they will just tell me that there was a "no charge" recall repair done as well when I collect it. There's not been many, only 2 or 3 small ones, but I didn't know about them before I dropped the car off.

I keep my service records, so I know what the dealer has done, but LRA doesn't seem to communicate much with their customers (unless you need to "fight" with them!)

I'll have to have a look at my December service sheet and if it hasn't been done (mine's a 2010 2.4) and needs to be done it will be on the list for the final warranty service in April!

Cheers,

Lou

[Sheppie]

yeah do the melb city LR thing, bout $400 was what i paid as well plus a couple of hours (at most) fitting and electrical.
happy camper here :)

[holsd90]

I've had three hoses replaced on my MY12 90 - turbo at 700km, top radiator at 1,500km (both times taken away on the back of a lorry) and then the bottom radiator hose rubbed through at about 10,000km. No problems getting them done here in Perth and even organise loan car for the day if needed.

[Loubrey]

Southern Land Rover has always been very accommodating and they've look after both my car and myself in a very professional way over the past 3 years, so I'm comfortable and confident that they'll replace it if needed.

One of the better Land Rover dealers I've encountered over the years...

Cheers,

Lou

[Bill]

I noticed a few drops of oil appearing on the bottom of the transfer case, so I took it in to the dealers to get it seen to - it's under warranty. At the same time I asked them if there was a recall on the turbo hose as I had seen it on this forum and the UK version.

At the time of my inquiry the response was "I don't think so. I haven't heard anything but I'll check the system for you anyway". The subtext being don't tell me how to do my job.

But when I dropped the car off they told me that yes, there was a recall for the turbo hose and that they would replaced.

20 days later and on the way to work my Defender starts making a wooshing noise. I thought it was an obstruction in the snorkel. On the way home the noise got louder and it turned into a public servant car - 'sucks a lot of air, makes a lot of noise and took a lot of effort to convince it to do anything'. I was staggered at the loss of power and acceleration.

A photo of the offending part is attached for others' reference. The photo is taken from underneath looking up and a point of reference is the steering UJ at the bottom of the photo. You can clearly see where the hose has rubbed on the accessory belt pulley.

So the question is; Is this a good part installed poorly, or a poorly designed part? And do I now need to look at some home made hose restrainer/protect plate? What is going to stop it happening again? I really don't want it occurring again when I'm in the boonies running close to GVM.

[Loubrey]

Bill,

Just had a look under my car (2010 2.4) and unless Land Rover has changed it without telling me, the hoses are completely different on the 2.4 and 2.2.

Firstly, none of the wire wrap.:eek:

Secondly, the first 90 degree bend is further forward than the steering knuckle, which means the alternator pulley has no chance whatsoever to touch the hose.

My car is in for a service on Monday and I'll be asking about that, not that there is seemingly anything wrong with mine...

Cheers,

Lou

[jimr1]

Ill have to ask Austral about this when I drop it of to them for its next service.
Hi Leroy , did you ever find out what your problem was , and is it OK now regards ijmr1

[fonfe]

The recall is to check a coolant hose "spring clip" position And to renew the turbo to intercooler hose with a new modified hose.

The coolant hose "spring clip" on some chassis variants has been found to have been in a position where it rubs on another hose. If it is in the incorrect position then the clip is just moved round, if it is in th incorrect position and has rubbed on the other hose, then the rubbed hose is then replaced.
The intercooler hose again on some chassis number variants does not sit correctly on the turbo outlet and so a modified hose has been brought out that sits much better. A plastic "nubbin" on the inner wheel arch is also removed as part of the process.
In regards to receiving letters I can not comment. The process that is meant to be carried out and is by myself and all the techs that I work with as its normal LR practice is that the vehicle is checked for any outstanding recalls when ever it is in the dealer for work. If the customer can go without the vehicle for the extra time when the vehicle is with us then the recall is carried out. If not then the vehicle is rebooked for the work to be carried out.

[Wallaby Ted]

I had that turbo hose split on my 2010 Defender on Good Friday on the way to Carnarvon Gorge for the Easter break. It took 2.25 years to rub through and it was a bolt protruding from the stearing column.

I did speak to Land Rover Customer Care and they said the only known issues was with the MY12 model as some of them had the Turbo hose installed back the front.

I have attached the photo of where it wore through, and we tried patching it with Rescue tape, but it wouldn't stop the leak.


Richard

[Bill]

Got the truck back with the new and improved repair on the turbo hose. I hope this one makes it past day 21.

Despite what most people say about dealers I have to hand it to the guys in the workshop - they are at least thinking about the problem and coming up with solutions.

Attached is a picture of the repair. They have restrained the hose in a few locations with cable ties to force it to bend out of the way of the alternator pulley. They have also fitted a protective cover.

Now that I know that it is an issue I'll keep an eye on it and see if it wears.

[Red dirt]

Just blew the hose on my new 2.2 defender 90. Following some of the forums from the UK indicate this is a problem with the Puma hoses. So far landrover aus has been great. We were 30ks east of Menzies on dirt when it happened with the nearest service agent 1000 ks away.
A quick look under the hood and the split was easy to find. Not so much fun driving 400ks to Esperance in safe mode.
Let you know how it turns out..

Red Dirt

[Tombie]

Just to clarify...


recalls in Aus are traditionally only done for life threatening faults...

What the hose one above is is referred to as a "Service action".

[Red dirt]

Red dirt back in sunny Gero.
Can't say enough about the boys and girls from landrover oz and the crew at Albany Landrover. Got the bus fixed and shiny clean, LR Oz kept checking we were ok and LR Albany did their utmost to ensure we were on our way despite the ANZAC public holiday. A bonus running into the Perth group on the track near Mundaring :cool: even the good wife seemed pleased.
Hope to see you all at the June run

Red Dirt

[JayBoRover]

Red dirt back in sunny Gero.
Can't say enough about the boys and girls from landrover oz and the crew at Albany Landrover. Got the bus fixed and shiny clean, LR Oz kept checking we were ok and LR Albany did their utmost to ensure we were on our way despite the ANZAC public holiday. A bonus running into the Perth group on the track near Mundaring :cool: even the good wife seemed pleased.
Hope to see you all at the June run

Red Dirt
My MY12 D90 is booked in at LR Albany on Thursday. I'll mention the turbo hose for them to check, but I haven't had any problems. If there's a "Service Action" note on them, I'm sure they'll check it especially as they've had recent exposure to the problem with yours.
Glad to hear everything turned out well and you were looked after wel:)l.
Ciao

[Loubrey]

Red dirt back in sunny Gero.
Can't say enough about the boys and girls from landrover oz and the crew at Albany Landrover. Got the bus fixed and shiny clean, LR Oz kept checking we were ok and LR Albany did their utmost to ensure we were on our way despite the ANZAC public holiday. A bonus running into the Perth group on the track near Mundaring :cool: even the good wife seemed pleased.
Hope to see you all at the June run

Red Dirt

Great meeting you and the wife and glad to hear you guys made it home safe and sound!

Be sure to check in with the WA crowd under the Special Interest Group section WA AULROians Group. There is quite a bit going on including the June anniversary run as well as our weekend event in September (W4 Challenge).

Cheers,

Lou ( The grey 90 with the black wheels!):D

[jimr1]

Ill have to ask Austral about this when I drop it of to them for its next service.
Leroy did you ever find out what your problem was (Townsville) ?..

[OffTrack]

My MY12 D90 is booked in at LR Albany on Thursday. I'll mention the turbo hose for them to check, but I haven't had any problems. If there's a "Service Action" note on them, I'm sure they'll check it especially as they've had recent exposure to the problem with yours.
Glad to hear everything turned out well and you were looked after wel:)l.
Ciao

Have a peek on Topix. There is a Service Action Bulletin that sounds like it might be what is being discussed:

Q205v3 ROW - Charge Air Cooler Hose and Coolant Hose Spring ( ROW )

[wally]

I had my 2.2 booked in next week. Today we had a call from the dealer informing us that there's a recall on a turbo hose. It was news just in apparently. She said if we re-schedule for next week we'll be able to get it done. I didn't take the call personally so I couldn't ask questions. Has anyone heard about this? Is there a redesigned hose? Don't tell me they've finally sorted it. That will be good news.

[Toxic_Avenger]

What year 2.2 do you have?
Would be interested to see if this applies to my vehicle. I haven't updated my ownership details with land rover Australia yet.

[oldyella 76]

Yep, you ate right. I have mine booked in next week and have been told that there are two updates to do ,one is a new turbo hose and the other is some sort of bracket to stop rubbing in the same area. Mine is a 2012 model.
Lindsay

[bemm52]

Yes what year are you talking ............my 2013/90 had issues with intercooler hose fouling a steering knuckle, no recall just fixed myself with cable tie................bit disapointed with dealer problem managment after their heater intake fix
Cheers

[Grappler]

My 2012 130 had a failed turbo hose during its first year. Flat bedded to Perth and the new hose installed had a wire coil around it. I wonder if this is the same solution as the recall.

My son has a 2012 110 and he has been advised of a recall on the turbo hose. Will be interested to see what the solution will be there.

Seat belts is the only recall I have been advised about by LR

[Summiitt]

I had a radiator hose rub thru on the left side of the motor... Was told initially that there were no recalls, drove it for 3 days while I waited for a booking and was told that there was actually a recall..maybe the same one??

[Rurover]

Had a call today from my local dealer (Mac Land Rover at Millicent SA) with the same message.
Apparently LR have re-designed the turbo hose so it's not so close to the steering shaft. Also includes different design for the hose clips to mount it at each end.
They've replaced two already...one which had failed and one just about to fail.

My Defender is late 2013.

Alan

[tact]

My 2013 model had a turbo hose fail and put me in limp home mode last week, just a year old and 17,000km

It wasn't the turbo hose I expected (the one above steering shaft). It was on the one on the other side after the inter cooler

[JayBoRover]

I haven't heard anything about a recall from the dealer yet but I did just this week book my MY12 D90 in at Southern Land Rover in Cannington, Perth for a 30k service. I'll be interested in finding out about it on Monday to make sure they include the fix at the same time as I can't afford the time to have to take it back again another day.

[FeatherWeightDriver]

I had my MY14 in last week and they didn't mention anything, but it may already have the upgraded spec part installed (must check when I get home)

[wally]

What year 2.2 do you have?
Would be interested to see if this applies to my vehicle. I haven't updated my ownership details with land rover Australia yet.

Mine's 2012. I had a failed turbo hose at about 16000km. It didn't rub through on anything - it just split. The dealer replaced it with one that looks like what's fitted to 2014 models. I'll be pleased if they've come up with a reliable design. I've never been entirely satisfied that it's properly fixed, and it's always at the back of my mind when I'm driving it.

[AndyG]

I wonder if mine, which is being built in 12 days will include the fix:o, probably too much to hope for.

And yes counting the days ............

[tact]

Bit the bullet and paid the money to subscribe to topix last night.

I saw that both intercooler hoses (hot and cold side) have replacement bulletins.

Mine was the cold side that just split and was replaced.

From the pics in the bulletin I see that the hot side hose (turbo to intercooler) hasn't been done on my vehicle so will be asking for that next service. (This is the one that rubs on the steering shaft). The replacement process includes fitting a bracket to the alternator mount bolts that holds the hose steady. Missing on my vehicle - thus how I know they haven't done the upgrade.

[tact]

AndyG - the bulletin instructs dealers that if not done, the improvements need to be done prior to vehicle delivery. Better check either way.

[AndyG]

I actually have a full set of silicone hoses waiting for it, just in case, and for a future alisport I/C.

But how would you know if it was done?

[AussieAub]

Can anyone put pics up of what was there before replacement, and what the new replacement part fitted looks like (and where), so us non mechanical types can have a quick look-see to determine if we need to get it looked at?

A kind of before and after thing?

Cheers,

[EastFreo]

Like AndyG mine is getting built in July. If anyone has a photo that would be great so I know what to look for when it is delivered.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Is there any bulletin number which could be quoted to the dealer to see if it is applicable to my vehicle?

[Psimpson7]

Ours has the latest hose from manufacture. It looks far better. (Jan 14 build)

I will try and get a pic tommorow

[rgty_kmj]

How topical. My turbo host that rubs on the steering column is being replaced tomorrow on my 2012 Model. There was a post about this 3 months ago (on this forum).
I checked mine and sure enough it was rubbing. I reported this to the dealer and they said that the replacement that had been designed to get around this problem was no good. Then let me know about a month ago that the second replacement design was now available. Photo attached of hose rubbing on steering column. I'll get a photo posted of the replacement as soon I can.

I have just tried to upload the photo of the rubbing pipe but I can't as I already posted it on this thread

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/196696-defender-2-2-intercooler-hoses.html so you'll have to take a look at it there.


Kerry

[Don 130]

Recall log

https://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/952880

Don.

[Grappler]

I just got under my 2012 130 to get a picture of the turbo hose with the coil that was replaced after the original failed.

I found the new hose wearing against to steering shaft yoke! The bad thing is the metal coil could catch on the male torx fastener and foul the steering

Will be onto Landrover in the morning.

[Grappler]

Just got the 130 back after the dealer did the recall upgrade. The warranty report had Recall Q205 and Q360 carriied out

The pic shows the new hose and bracket securing to the alternator. An improvement on the first replacement (see previous post)

[dullbird]

Thanks Grappler

I will stick my head under the bonnet of the new 130 next week hopefully these recalls would have been carried out before we pick up the car

[Cracka]

Yep, I got my recall notice in the mail yesterday. Just a shame it didn't arrive a few weeks ago whilst 'Ivy' was at the doctors having new axles, drive flanges, jackshaft and swivel seals done.

Oh well this one looks like a fine fix at last.

Mick

[JayBoRover]

My D90 got the recall kit fitted while I had it booked in for a service anyway on Thursday. I had forgotten to ask them about it earlier in the week, but when I dropped it off they mentioned they had a warranty job to do so would need the little 'fender all day. The look of disappointment on my face must have showed because they then texted me at 12:30 to say it'd be ready at 1pm. Awesome job Southern Land Rover, Cannington:cool:.

[FeatherWeightDriver]

Hmm

My Jan MY14 build has the older fix by the looks of things.

The spiral metal is uncovered, so seems like it's going to need an update.

[Pickles2]

An Aussie guy on the UK based Def 2 forum says He has received a turbo hose recall notice with respect to his late model Puma. I haven't,....Has anyone?
Pickles.

[PAT303]

Nope. Pat

[nugge t]

not me

[p38arover]

You blokes don't read your own areas: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/200295-puma-recall.html

[Pickles2]

I did read that. However, what I read there (Def2), was that there was a recall notice that had "just" been sent, so I was wondering if others had "just" received a notice,...I mean there's been various recalls for this hose, going back a few years, & there's been various "fixes", some just being a plastic "tie" around the hose, and there's also been supposedly "different" hoses etc, some which had the same issue as the replaced hose?.
So, I was wondering how many have "just" received a notice, and specifically what is the "fix" this time, 'cause there's been a few.
I guess if anyone had ref nos for this recall, it'd be handy, so I can quote them to my Dealer.
Pickles.

[DieselDan]

AndyG / EastFreo,

I just checked my April build 14MY and it has the fix as per Grappler's second post so your July builds should be good!

[JayBoRover]

I did read that. However, what I read there (Def2), was that there was a recall notice that had "just" been sent, so I was wondering if others had "just" received a notice,...I mean there's been various recalls for this hose, going back a few years, & there's been various "fixes", some just being a plastic "tie" around the hose, and there's also been supposedly "different" hoses etc, some which had the same issue as the replaced hose?.
So, I was wondering how many have "just" received a notice, and specifically what is the "fix" this time, 'cause there's been a few.
I guess if anyone had ref nos for this recall, it'd be handy, so I can quote them to my Dealer.
Pickles.
This is a recent recall notice. When I get home tonight, if no-one else has responded with the details for you, I'll let you know the numbers as they appeared on my service report. The dealer will know about it and I gather most dealers have been supplied with the kits ready to instal when vehicles come in for service. If you give the dealer your registration or VIN number they will be able to see if your vehicle is affected.

[Grappler]

There has been some discussion here and ive posted a pic of the hose arrangment done a few days ago

The recall is Q360 and Q205

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/200295-puma-recall-3.html

[wally]

80042

[Grappler]

Hmm

My Jan MY14 build has the older fix by the looks of things.

The spiral metal is uncovered, so seems like it's going to need an update.

If it looks like the first picture in post #22, there is a possibility the torx head pinch bolt on the steering uni., can hook up on the metal coil. I would be cautious about driving the vehicle if there is any chance the steering could foul

To their credit, LRA took this seriously, transporting the vehicle for safety reasons, to get the replacement done.

[BigBlueOne]

i received a latter last week

[T.Middo]

Just rang the local dealer to check if mine (late 2013 model) needed the update. Booked in for wednesday to get it done.

[Bundalene]

I eliminated turbo hose problems, be it through rubbing, delaminating or failing by having steel ones made and using decent turbo hose clamps with silicone ends. I could envisage problems with these due to their length.




original hoses alongside steel hoses
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/1008.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nflhabmj)




Clamps
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/1009.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nr6k3pj)




Lagged hose
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/1010.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/n12efjj)





Erich

[p38arover]

You blokes don't read your own areas: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/200295-puma-recall.html

Threads merged.

[p38arover]

I eliminated turbo hose problems, be it through rubbing, delaminating or failing by having steel ones made and using decent turbo hose clamps with silicone ends. I could envisage problems with these due to their length.

When are you marketing them, Erich? :)

[Cracka]

An Aussie guy on the UK based Def 2 forum says He has received a turbo hose recall notice with respect to his late model Puma. I haven't,....Has anyone?
Pickles.

Pickles that was me on Def2, look 3 posts above your one I have quoted ;)

[Pickles2]

Pickles that was me on Def2, look 3 posts above your one I have quoted ;)
No worries, it'll be interesting to see how many of us receive any "notice".
Pickles.

[Simon]

Mine was in the letterbox today for a late 2013 110.

It's the same letter as posted previously by wally

Oh well, an opportunity for the dealer to see to a couple of other things at the same time rather than waiting to next service

[Toxic_Avenger]

I eliminated turbo hose problems, be it through rubbing, delaminating or failing by having steel ones made and using decent turbo hose clamps with silicone ends. I could envisage problems with these due to their length.


Nice work Erich.
That's one heck of a turbo hose. No wonder it's flopping around and wearing through.
To confirm, is this the cold side turbo outlet (to intercooler?)

[JamesB71]

Ive received no notice for my 2013 90, but that doesnt surprise me. They have been completely hopeless on every single occasion that I have had the displeasure of dealing with them.

Love the vehicle, but the dealers are the worst Ive ever experienced.

[Larry]

Got my letter late last week.;)
Just need to decide which dealer to take it to as none are convenient to home or work! :mad:

[Lagerfan]

Ive received no notice for my 2013 90, but that doesnt surprise me. They have been completely hopeless on every single occasion that I have had the displeasure of dealing with them.

We haven't had anything either but I think some of us wont. I believe LR have had a couple of cracks at fixing the issue, and a few hose/clip variants are out there in circulation. We got told some time ago by a service guy that we had "one of the good ones", could of been BS too I guess, time will tell. Is it a specific VIN range?

Otherwise completely agree with your sentiments.

[gazcoonar]

Hey Pickles I just received my letter for my 90 yesterday. You will probably get one soon. Turbo6 hadn't received a letter but he called MLR yesterday and booked in for the recall work to be carried out on the 16th.

[colinlawlor]

hi there its not just in Australia England have the same problem to .had a chat to the social media executive so title said that there hasn't been a recall on this problem but I had already spoke to land rover lister big franchise and there told me that there a recall on this hose with out me asking him , I tried to order this part through lister but was told you cant buy this hose due to the recall .so who is lying .the man with ink on his hands or the one with oil

[Pickles2]

Thanks Gaz, I'll keep you posted.
Pickles.

[Grappler]

Just to clarify...


recalls in Aus are traditionally only done for life threatening faults...

What the hose one above is is referred to as a "Service action".

Had the upgrade done a few days ago. The Warranty report refers to Recall Q205 and Q360

The original upgrade with the coil around the hose has the potential to foul the steering when it wears through

See this similar post with a pic of the latest upgrade

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/2178355-post23.html

[Samblers]

Presume only those within the warranty period get recalls done for free?

Sam, 2010 110

[Grappler]

If the recall is in your VIN range, you should get the recall work done for no charge. especially from a safety aspect. There is potential for steering failure.

Give your local dealer a call

[bemm52]

Received a recall letter today for our 130 but not for the 90 (2 months difference in build date) at present 90 has a cable tie lifting hose away from steering knuckle and to be honest haven't had time to stick my head under 130
Rang stealers about letter and booked in 130 no problems when I mentioned 90 had the same problem they said it could only be fixed if within vin range and I would need another letter from Land Rover.
according to them (stealers) the letters are sent out in number batches and parts must come from Melbourne
From this I gather that I should get a letter in the future if not I'll get it addressed at service time.
the other interesting thing they said was if the fault had been rectified in the factory at build stage there would be a sticker on the windscreen stating Q360v2.............they didn't say if this was removable or not, actually I didn't ask
This must be costing LR a lot of $
Cheers

[dullbird]

both recall threads merged

[FeatherWeightDriver]

So does anyone know the actual vin range (s) this applies to?

[bemm52]

Got second recall notice for the 90 in mail today both vehicles booked for same day
Cheers

[JamesB71]

Who should i be asking? I dont have a local dealer and the one i bought it from is completely useless. I wouldnt trust them to be able to post a letter.

[Pickles2]

Like I said, there's been various fixes for the turbo hose,...I think.
As far as I'm aware there's been the "coiled spring" around the hose, then there's been a plastic "tie" around the hose, and I've heard that the latest is a "bracket" to hold whatever hose you have in place.
However, I've seen nothing from Landrover, so I can't confirm what the "final" fix is.
Pickles.

[bemm52]

Pickles


my 90 has coil spring you refer to around hose.... knuckle still wore at cloth cover beneath spring


I recon every 12/13 build will get the recall but it just takes time to notify everyone................I hope this is the case


Cheers

[Grappler]

If it looks like the first picture in post #22, there is a possibility the torx head pinch bolt on the steering uni., can hook up on the metal coil. I would be cautious about driving the vehicle if there is any chance the steering could foul

To their credit, LRA took this seriously, transporting the vehicle for safety reasons, to get the replacement done.

The pictures is now in post #50 and #51 after the threads were merged

[dawsey]

So does anyone know the actual vin range (s) this applies to?

I would like to know that as well ..2013 110 heard nothing

[JayBoRover]

I would like to know that as well ..2013 110 heard nothing
I never heard anything either ... but the recall work has been done:p. Just ring your dealer and discuss it with the service people. The work on mine got done while it was in for a routine service. I might never get "the letter" but the work got done. A simple phone call - make it happen.:)

[Pickles2]

I never heard anything either ... but the recall work has been done:p. Just ring your dealer and discuss it with the service people. The work on mine got done while it was in for a routine service. I might never get "the letter" but the work got done. A simple phone call - make it happen.:)
So, in your case, what was the fix?
Pickles.

[JayBoRover]

It is the steel bracket that supports the intercooler pipe away from the steering rod. No coily wire, no cable ties - looks good!

[Pickles2]

It is the steel bracket that supports the intercooler pipe away from the steering rod. No coily wire, no cable ties - looks good!
Thanks, obviously more permanent than previous items.
Pickles.

[Bavo]

Hi All,
Recall letter received a few days ago (attached).
Bit late though as the turbo air hose (runs between the turbo and intercooler) had burst about 2 months ago. Got it replaced by the lovely folks at Romsey for no cost as a warranty claim.
Now I get it replaced again.
80272

[dawsey]

well there you go.LRA must read aulro I got my letter today plus a email from the dealer letting my service was due soon and told me about the recall......


I would like to know that as well ..2013 110 heard nothing

[tact]

All,

From topix the attached screen grab shows the VIN range that some were asking about. This is the fix that adds a support bracket for the host, the support bracket fits under the alternator mount bolts

[Grappler]

....LRA must read aulro ......

They do.
I was enquiring with the LR dealer about high engine coolant temps on Puma 2.2 Was amused they quoted AULRO to tell me it is normal.

[Pickles2]

I have discovered that when fixing the new "Bracket/Hose" or whatever, the airbox has to be removed to gain access,....which is apparently a very nasty task, with the risk of damaging/breaking the air box mounting brackets (because it is difficult to separate it from its mounting).
So, my advice would be, check your airbox & see if it's back like it should be, or alternatively ask you dealer was there any difficulty.
If there's one thing I don't like, it's things being damaged, "covered up", and not being put back the way they should be.
Pickles.

[Avago]

Hi Andrew,

I have recently received a letter from Land Rover in regards to the recall to replace the mid intercooler hose, the letter states that the hose from the turbo to the intercooler can become detached!!!
I actually had my vehicle at the dealer prior to receiving this letter for a leaking windscreen and the service personnel told me that the recall was due to the hose rubbing on the engine causing it wear a hole in the hose!!!

It appears that the hose has been changed and a support bracket in the centre of the hose has been added.

The recall is for 2012 - 2013 model Defenders (Programme Number Q360).

Hope this helps.

Regards

Jeff

[Grappler]

I have discovered that when fixing the new "Bracket/Hose" or whatever, the airbox has to be removed to gain access,....which is apparently a very nasty task, with the risk of damaging/breaking the air box mounting brackets (because it is difficult to separate it from its mounting).
So, my advice would be, check your airbox & see if it's back like it should be, or alternatively ask you dealer was there any difficulty.
If there's one thing I don't like, it's things being damaged, "covered up", and not being put back the way they should be.
Pickles.

Thanks Pickles2 - Good advice. I did notice MAF cable and a few other wires were not replaced in their clips after the recall work. Today, as you suggest, I checked the air filter box, and sure enough its damaged. I dont think its a show stopper but the top edge has been levered with something and bartled the plastic. It seals OK- but poor workmanship.
I suspect they have forced it past the AC line. The WS manual method to remove the lower half of the filter box requires draining the AC and disconnecting the AC pipe/hose

Evertime these clowns work on my vehicle they create another issue!

[Lagerfan]

I suspect they have forced it past the AC line. The WS manual method to remove the lower half of the filter box requires draining the AC and disconnecting the AC pipe/hose

That AC line over the top design seems completely clueless doesn't it, even for just changing the filter, makes a simple job a hassle and difficult to re-sit the lid.

Anyway, my theory turned out to be BS after all, got our recall notice in the post Friday. Had no problems with 28k on the clock but I will get it done next service I suppose.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Looked at my 2012 on Sunday.
Visible wear marks on the turbo hose (dust rubbed off by steering arm).
The distance between hose and arm with engine off looks to be large though... does the engine torque to the drivers or passenger's side under load?

[IBN]

Notice received last week and job done. Did have a look under the car and sure enough the hose was rubbing against the steering shaft.
Interesting the comments about collateral damage caused by the repair ;). Looks like I should stick my head under the bonnet to see what's going on.

[Pickles2]

Notice received last week and job done. Did have a look under the car and sure enough the hose was rubbing against the steering shaft.
Interesting the comments about collateral damage caused by the repair ;). Looks like I should stick my head under the bonnet to see what's going on.
I'd be interested to find out, & also which dealer did your recall.
Apparently the Airbox is difficult to remove & A/C pipes have to be disconnected etc to do the job, ,so yes, it is quite involved.
Our '13 90 does appear to be in the Vin range, but I've received no "notification" etc yet?
Pickles.

[JamesB71]

Ive got a 2013 90 as well and rang LRA last week to ask about any recalls and the call centre guy said there was nothing on my file about a recall. Either he didnt know what he was doing, or mines not eligible. Given that he couldnt work out how to look at my service records to tell me if the mechanic had entered the additional service I had done at 30k kms I wasnt inspired to confidence...

[IBN]

I'd be interested to find out, & also which dealer did your recall.
Apparently the Airbox is difficult to remove & A/C pipes have to be disconnected etc to do the job, ,so yes, it is quite involved.
Our '13 90 does appear to be in the Vin range, but I've received no "notification" etc yet?
Pickles.
Melbourne Land Rover did the job. The notice quoted 1.5 hours for the job. Whether this is enough to do the task properly, I'll leave to the more knowledgeable here to decide. Still haven't stuck my head under the bonnet.
Ivars

[Pickles2]

G'Day Ivars.
Have you looked under the bonnet yet?
I'm RRREEAALLLYYY particular about stuff like that, I wish I wasn't 'cause I get a few grey hairs (well I haven't got any black ones left!) worrying about stuff like this, so I'd be interested to know what you can see.
Pickles.

[IBN]

G'Day Ivars.
Have you looked under the bonnet yet?
I'm RRREEAALLLYYY particular about stuff like that, I wish I wasn't 'cause I get a few grey hairs (well I haven't got any black ones left!) worrying about stuff like this, so I'd be interested to know what you can see.
Pickles.

Hi Pickles,
Well I had a look and all seems well. The air filter looks undamaged and appears to be securely mounted. Shame that I was not aware of possible issues before the fix so a before/after comparison could be made. At the moment I have no reason for my dealer service cynicism gland to kick in.
Ivars

[Pickles2]

Hi Pickles,
Well I had a look and all seems well. The air filter looks undamaged and appears to be securely mounted. Shame that I was not aware of possible issues before the fix so a before/after comparison could be made. At the moment I have no reason for my dealer service cynicism gland to kick in.
Ivars
I'm very happy for you, glad it all worked out, you've got Sniegy there, who know's what He's doing, & I've got Bernie at ULR,.........but I ain't received any "notice" yet?!
Thanks, Pickles.

[dawsey]

just had mine fitted..very fussy myself no damage done..never thought there would be.more important things in life to worry about than this;) you'll be right pickles



G'Day Ivars.
Have you looked under the bonnet yet?
I'm RRREEAALLLYYY particular about stuff like that, I wish I wasn't 'cause I get a few grey hairs (well I haven't got any black ones left!) worrying about stuff like this, so I'd be interested to know what you can see.
Pickles.

[JamesB71]

I had a look under mine and it appears that I have the hose with the wire coiled around it. It misses the steering column by the tiniest of margins.... Do I leave it or take it up with the dealer?

[Pickles2]

I had a look under mine and it appears that I have the hose with the wire coiled around it. It misses the steering column by the tiniest of margins.... Do I leave it or take it up with the dealer?
That is what I have (wire coil), our Defender was manufactured 9/13, it appears to be in the VIN range, but I ain't heard nothing yet.
Pickles.

[Grappler]

I had a look under mine and it appears that I have the hose with the wire coiled around it. It misses the steering column by the tiniest of margins.... Do I leave it or take it up with the dealer?

Have a look at the pics on this thread posts 50 and 51.

The latest fix has a bracket on the alternator as shown in #51

If yours dont have the bracket upgrade, I would definitely get it done.
Ive had two trips to Perth on a truck, due to hose failures - very inconvenient

Its also dangerous as the the steering has the the potential to get wrapped up in the coil

[JamesB71]

Turns out there was in fact a recall on mine. Letter turned up a few weeks after they told me there wasnt any recall on my vin.... Ffs. Im dreading dealing with the dealer again.

[cooperrat]

I picked up my 90 from a tamworth dealer,a few hours from home..so i am taking it to artarmon on thursday for the hose job, won't go near my nearest dealer, bad meeting with the service manager there over another issue. I guess I'm saying take yours somewhere else if you can James..

[Cracka]

Had mine fitted yesterday, all good :D

[LR V8]

Mine went in today. Also to check out a spot of engine oil at the bottom of the bell housing.... rear main seal as it turns out... not bad for 12k easy km's :mad:

[JamesB71]

Im trying the one in Narellan. At least the bloke on the phone booking it in seemed to give a ****. Havent gotten that feeling from anyone at LR thus far. Fingers crossed.

[Witchdoctor]

Yep, getting my third this week

David

[noyakfat]

Had my truck in at the dealers today for a bit of a check-over service (at my own request as a new vehicle, I just wanted a post-delivery shake-down to ensure all was still tightened etc as it should be).

Anyway, I asked them to check out the turbo hose. Turns out my vehicle (2014 110 wagon, delivered in April this year) has had the appropriate bracket(s) fitted.
Apparently they expected mine would be recalled, but they said it appears the fix was fitted on the production line.

Happy days :)

[LR V8]

Mine went in today. Also to check out a spot of engine oil at the bottom of the bell housing.... rear main seal as it turns out... not bad for 12k easy km's :mad:

I'm back on the road :)

I thought I'd clarify, it turned out not to be the rear main seal that was leaking. It was some other little thingie internal to the bell housing. They did say what it was, but I've had a long day and am about to hit the hay...

Pete

[bemm52]

As I mentioned in an erlier post my vehicles were both fixed under recall but one of them had the new hose bracket fail after 750kms:twisted:

this allows new hose to be damaged by steering knuckle and also impedes steering.:twisted:

I think regular checks should be made as damage to hose is significant, off to dealer today.

have a look at "puma steering issues post"

Cheers

[Pickles2]

Bemm, I read your other thread.
That is most concerning,...that you've supposedly had the "fix", but you've still got the issue. Read my comment with respect to a missing part of the fix?
Haven't had mine done yet, so updates from you would be good, as well as info as to whether they have been able to remove & replace your airbox without damage,...you might ask them how they did it?
Pickles.

[bemm52]

Failed bracket and hose replaced willingly by dealer today


Cheers

[n plus one]

In case anyone wants to know - the issue is easily addressed with a single large zip tie. Just pull your IC hose up towards your air ducting - done!

[JamesB71]

Had my first decent experience with a LR dealer. The job at Narellan Land Rover (done in the Ford place a few doors up) went perfectly smoothly and the bloke I dealt with was excellent.

[Summiitt]

After giving the canberra dealer 4 days to get the hose in, I arrived at 8am last Monday as booked, to wait for the hose to be fitted..at 10am they came and told me that in fact the hose had not arrived and they would call when it had come in...crap service from a dealer that I had previously had a great run with..they don't seem to get the fact that this vehicle is a massive part of my business and to be stuffed around like this really peeved me off..they finally rang today to say the new hose has come in..Lennock land rover, you have dropped the ball.

[Cracka]

G'day Summitt, I must have been lucky then mate. After having our quick chat there in the morning I picked mine up in the afternoon all done, luckily, with nearly 3 hours to drive each way.

I've had a really good run with them there, hopefully its only a 1 off for you (and all of us).

Mick

[Summiitt]

G'day mick,
Yep they had one hose in stock and put it on yours as you had the further east to go..was your lucky day!

[Cracka]

Damn, I was lucky. I feel sorry for you though :D

Imagine if we were be able to bill them (service provider) for our time, and in your case loss of work when we get dicked around, I bet there wouldn't be simple stuff ups then.......

[Toxic_Avenger]

Damn, I was lucky. I feel sorry for you though :D

Imagine if we were be able to bill them (service provider) for our time, and in your case loss of work when we get dicked around, I bet there wouldn't be simple stuff ups then.......

There would be nothing stopping you.
You might not get paid though :p

I get quite a few random invoices come across my desk. Usually a 'what's this for' and 'why isn't my purchase order number on it', and the matter is dropped.

[BilboBoggles]

Got mine done today. Seems OK - But most amazingly they did not dent the crap out of it like the last dealer did - so I call that a win. I'm not sure if they got the air box in correctly - I can wobble it a bit - but I can't remember if that is how they are?

[gouldier]

Hi I had my hose fail and it was done by austral land rover , on my 130 single cab with 40000 km , the dealer pulled my air intake out off the back of the air box and didn't seal the joins back up again ( sickaflex ) 2 months later still trying to get them to seal it back up again . It been back 2 times and they tell me that the mechanic has done it . But they haven't. Thanks gouldier.

[gingz]

I got mine done last week and there is a different noise coming for the turbo....more sooking noise than there was before.

Anyone else notice this?

[Dopey]

My turbo hose got replaced last week by Concord Land rover.....
I took my 90 in for a service (which they didn't do properly, but that's another story), when I picked the 90 up they told me that they did the recall notice for the turbo hose.....

The latest turbo hose had previously been installed (with all the latest brackets by Alto @ St Leonard's, who did it properly).

Driving home from the Concord Land Rover dealership (about a ten minute drive) the 90 started to make very loud hissing noises under throttle, I pulled over and had a look at the hoses.....
The hoses were hardly on at all, hose clips were loose....

While looking underneath, I could see oil coming from the oil filter housing as well.
Anyways, to cut a long story short, I walked the rest of the way home, borrowed a mates car trailer and towed the 90 home with one of my other 90's.
I spent a few hours fixing what concord land rover stuffed up on the Landy, including fixing the turbo hose properly.

Mike.

[JamesB71]

Im assuming each dealership has an idiot apprentice in charge of turbo hose clamps. Mine blew shortly after they did the recall and my 90 got its first ride on a flatbed...

[bemm52]

Im assuming each dealership has an idiot apprentice in charge of turbo hose clamps. Mine blew shortly after they did the recall and my 90 got its first ride on a flatbed...


Bought a Ford Ranger new six years ago first service free.................
every other service done thru my local mechanic guy ............six years of trouble free motoring albeit on bitumen.


Bought a MY13 90 first service around $800 and this is ongoing:eek:


Second service my Guy about $400


Third Service my guy $200


Even though its a Defender oil and filters are not the rocket science dealers charge for.


Turbo hose recall ................job on 90 was OK (touch wood)....130 two goes to get it right :eek:


I'm self employed I need Customer satisfaction and to give fair deals to survive


This thread does my head in.......... its only hose clamps, a hose and a bracket


Rant over.

[JamesB71]

Im looking forward to its warranty finishing so I can just get my local trusted mechanic to look after it. Seven years maintaining my hilux and it never had a spanner on it other than servicing, and i do 50k kms a year.

[scarry]

Spoke to a foreman at the local LR dealer this week,he said the 2.2l is causing ****loads of issues,unlike the 2.4.

[JamesB71]

... and yet when the turbo hose on mine the service guy told me that it was the first he had heard of such a thing happening....

[scarry]

... and yet when the turbo hose on mine the service guy told me that it was the first he had heard of such a thing happening....

That is a familiar line.The guy i spoke to was probably saying more than he should.

I remember years ago we had issues with bursting disks on York centrifugal chillers.
Nah,never have any issues with them.
But York spare parts were always out of stock of them,because they were failing everywhere.

[Pickles2]

2.2 V 2.4,...I don't believe there is any "issue" there, particularly with respect to"issues".
If there were any such "issues", they would have been the subject of discussion on the UK Def 11 forum, which they haven't.
Pickles.
NB: Not saying that this "turbo hose" isn't a real pain though, 'cause it is.

[gouldier]

I have had all three of my inner coolers hoses replaced now, two of them failed with 20 mm holes in them with less than 50000 km on the clock does anyone have any suggestions on silicone hose upgrades for the puma 2.2 motor ?
Thanks gouldier.

[Longtimer]

I'm getting a "sports" intercooler sent over from Bells Auto's in the UK, and they supply the silicone hoses. They have them available online. They should be available here in Oz, but getting the part numbers is the hard part.... So I said stuff it and ordered the hoses from them.


The remap will be going on after the first service...... :-) (how do you get a smirking smilie face?)
I am certainly not ashamed of being a 40 something yearold rev' head.... :-)


Cheers,

Phill.

[Pickles2]

"Gracie" is visiting our Dealer tomorrow for her "turbo hose recall' mod. Also has a cracked brake fluid reservoir which is to be replaced. She will also have her first service.
I hope there are no "complications"?
Pickles.

[iClick]

Has anyone dealt with a dud turbo hose out of warranty? Mine was replaced exactly 12mths ago in Albury when I was driving from Sydney to Melbourne. They scavanged one from a another vehicle to get me going but I don't know if any other mods were done (new/altered bracket) It's now gone again after only 17,000 km. I dropped into ULR in Melbourne and they're going to speak to LR to see what they'll do about it.

This is what it looks like now - you can see clearly where a bolt from the steering has rubbed through.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/930.jpg

[Dopey]

The bracket that holds the hose away from the steering shaft is missing, see post no: 51 (on this thread) for a picture that Grappler posted of the bracket from the alternator to the hose.

Regards,
Mike.

[iClick]

The bracket that holds the hose away from the steering shaft is missing, see post no: 51 (on this thread) for a picture that Grappler posted of the bracket from the alternator to the hose.

Regards,
Mike.

Thanks Mike, that's really useful. Interesting that was never picked up during any of my frequent visits to my local dealer. ( also, I should've read all the posts in this thread 1st :angel: )

[AndyG]

I have had all three of my inner coolers hoses replaced now, two of them failed with 20 mm holes in them with less than 50000 km on the clock does anyone have any suggestions on silicone hose upgrades for the puma 2.2 motor ?
Thanks gouldier.

Allisport have the Silicone hoses, be aware there are two types for the 2.2, if you want I can email my discussion with Allisport, or I can show you the later edition, I will be in Bald Hills in 2 weeks or at Caboolture day on the 15th. Mine are not yet fitted

[jackdef90]

I replaced my IC hoses with silicone type ones and better quality hose clamps, they are 'SEMCO' brand i believe, ordered from UK about $100 au they were a really good fit, and after putting them on the hose from the turbo supplying IC sits much further away from steering shaft, so no more worrying about it.

[iClick]

Just doing some research before I contact Land Rover assist. From what I can gather the recall was only for vehicles from 2012 onwards:


Service Action, Charge Air Hose Turbo to Intercooler

Publication No.: Q360v2
Model: Defender (LD)
Model Years: 2012 - 2013
Vin Range: LD412051 - LD445881
Date of Issue: 25/06/2014
Expiry Date: 30/04/2016


Where does that leave the older models which obviously are having the same issue, namely a design issue where the hose rubs against the steering shaft causing a failure which then make the vehicle effectively undriveable. Why should I have to pony up for repairs to fix an obvious design fault! :censored:

[Loubrey]

2.4's (at least up to 2010) used different hoses and don't have the same issue (I checked on mine).

Your's a 2011 from your signature, so not sure whether they broke the first rule of mechanics (if its not broken...) and installed that hose to yours. If not and yours is a 2.4 there shouldn't be an issue?

Cheers,

Lou

[iClick]

Thanks Lou,
My original turbo hose failed 12mths/17,000km ago when I was travelling between Syd and Melb. The dealership in Albury didn't have a spare on hand so they 'borrowed' one from another vehicle and got me going again. It may be possible that they used a hose from a newer 2.2 engine which perhaps was too short and still rubbed? But thats just speculation on my part. I'm taking it to ULR in Melbourne again for them to have a mechanic look at it for me and they'll report to LRA

[DiscoMick]

So, just to confirm, is it only the 2.2 that has this hose issue or should I get my 2.4 checked as well? Bit confused from what's been posted.

[iClick]

So, just to confirm, is it only the 2.2 that has this hose issue or should I get my 2.4 checked as well? Bit confused from what's been posted.

I can't speak for others but I've gone through two hoses on my 2011 2.4
First hose lasted 51,000km and the second only 17,000

[Loubrey]

My 2.4 (2010) has 68,000km and the hose is fine from new. I live in WA and high ambient temperatures gives the hoses a pretty serious workout.

They can still blow, but its just material failure and not the same steering column rubbing the early 2.2's suffered from.

So Mick, check by all means, but it would not have survived till now if it did rub.

Cheers,

Lou

[alleycan1]

Hi , I have had 2 turbo hoses blown first was in 2013 30 ks out from Tamworth on my way back from Tasmania ( thank goodness I was near Tamworth as I came from Casterton in Victoria to Ballarat going bush to Tamworth ) Land Rover in Tamworth looked after me , the hose was beside the radiator passenger side ( Land Rover hired a car for me to come back to Gold Coast then trucked my defender back to Bruce Lytton no charge to me ,) Second time I was away been to Carnavon Gorge Roma where coming into Roma another hose this one drivers side ahose which rubbed against an object , they replaced that one with a reinforced part I was trucked back to Toowoomba Land Rover ( I am in RACQ ultimate they trucked and towed my van to Toowoomba and paid for caravan park for 4 days while they tried to fix the problem they didn't had to limp to Gold Coast , Bruce Lytton fixed it informed they replaced all hoses , ) hope so going to Longreach next month I don't want to break down again , Land Rover might get a bit of a blast , Allen :

[one_iota]

So, just to confirm, is it only the 2.2 that has this hose issue or should I get my 2.4 checked as well? Bit confused from what's been posted.


This has been an on going issue that LR and its dealers have been applying "nelson's eye" to since the puma-year-dot:


http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/86482-puma-intercooler-hose-steering-linkage.html


I have just checked mine (it was replaced under warranty after much argy bargy) and the same old problem is there so the cable ties are now in place again. The silicon hoses will go on shortly!

[Loubrey]

I replaced mine with Samco Sport silicone hoses when I installed the Alive Intercooler and they have been great so far.

I did however find that on my car specifically (2010), it would have been impossible for the original hoses to rub anywhere. Driver side the steering knuckle that caused a lot of the 2.2 issues were at least 30mm clear of the hose and that it didn't actually touch anything else. Passenger side the hose did run along side the radiator water hoses and the aircon hoses, but where they touched the intercooler hose had a woven fabric cover that looked like new after 5 years.

My old hoses are now in my spares tub as they are still perfect and would most probably have remained so if I left them in place.

Cheers,

Lou

[malsgoing130]

I'm kind of late in this discussion, but my 2011 2.4 blew a hose on the drivers side. 300km from civilization:mad: went to my "servicing" dealer and screamed very loudly! I also asked for a replacement hose and roll of rescue tape that I used. Got the hose, no tape..... so while the "mechanic" was busy I stuck my nose in and asked what the drama was, he said there was a bulletin to nip off a piece of plastic on the plastic mud guard inner. Mine had not been done due to their pathetic disregard for Defender owners. If you spend $80+ they seem to be more willing to help.

I've just put in Terrafirma hoses, performance increased and hopefully no more holes.

cheers
Mal

[DiscoMick]

I had a look and mine seems to have some kind of sleeve on it, so that's good (I think).
I also went to the official vehicle recalls site and downloaded and printed all the recalls notices which could possibly relate to my Defender.
Its due for its 60,000k service, so I'll ask more questions then.

[alleycan1]

I have had two go on mine one is behind the passenger side head light , the other is down beside the engine drivers side. This one has been modified with a bracket to stop it rubbing against something . Both time I was away travelling Land Rover looked after me very well , hired a car for me to get home from Tamworth then trucked the Defender to Gold Coast , the other time at Roma it was trucked to Toowoomba & hired a car for me no cost . A hint be in the top cover like RACQ , if towing a van or trailer

[LR V8]

Hi guys. Just one to check.... I had the recall done on the intercooler hose earlier this year. I gave it a visual check last week and the hose was rubbing up against the fan shroud, causing a wear hole in the hoses outer sheath. I spoke to the tech about it and it appears to be an installation error. There should have been a slight twist to the pipe to give it 'bias' away from the shroud.

Best place to inspect is from underneath, front, drivers side and look up before the diff... have a torch handy and feal the pipe for wear if it is up against the fan shroud.

Cheers.

[JamesB71]

Mine has blown three times since the recall requiring a flat bed each time. They still havent got a handle on this problem.

[one_iota]

Silicon hoses are the Defender's best friend! ;)

[JayBoRover]

Mine has blown three times since the recall requiring a flat bed each time. They still havent got a handle on this problem.
The problem is really the clamps, not the hoses themselves - although the silicon hoses are faaar superior. The big issue is the clamps are crimped to the end of the hoses. The flare in the aluminium tube is further back so the clamp isn't clamping against the flare. When the boost pressure expands the hose (and this is where the silicon hoses start to shine) it releases the grip pressure of the hose at the flare, leaving the clamp alone at the end of the hose to try and hold it all together. Any slight residue film left from the last "blow off" makes this grip tenuous at best and voila - the hose bursts off again.
The silicon hoses are longer, thicker and stiffer. Use them with Tee-bar clamps (ie not worm drive clamps) set right up near the flare and it'll be good ... so far for me anyway, after three times of blowing of the standard hose.

[oldyella 76]

My 2.2 had the hose replaced under the recall, but they fitted it incorrectly and it pushed the fan shroud in to where,under power the fan rubbed on the shroud and after it wore a hole in it the hose then pushed through the fan shroud and then the fan had a go at the hose wearing a hole in it putting It in limp mode and me having to complete the 1500 km trip in a hire vehicle. So if it is rubbing against the shroud it will give y.ou grief . It has been fitted incorrectly.
Lindsay

[justinc]

Had a hissing 90 in the other week and traced the noise to the drivers side join onto the intercooler behind the grille where it had already started spraying oil mist out through it. The tech had installed it too far on and it was over the plastic 'stop right here' lug on the intercooler inlet pipe.

Jc

[Mictom64]

First time poster. Recently bought 2012 110 wagon for work. Had rangies for years and never a problem. Defender has had immobilizer issue, output shaft let go at 42000k, now blown turbo/intercooler hose at 45000k. Limp home mode! Are things like this going to keep happening, losing faith in my favourite marque of vehicle. In fairness land rover did cover the gearbox even though technically it was just out of warranty.
Thanks.
Michael.

[Marty90]

There was a recall on the hose. The previous owner should've known about it.Check with the local LR dealer.They should know if it was done from the VIN.

[Crampeye]

Hey is this issue still floating around and pestering other owners?

I recently had to replace three intercooler hoses and a bracket in my 2014MY 110. Apparently not the same cause as the recall...but mysteriously the same parts. I've been assured that its not related to the Q360v2 recall, oh and damn...just out of warranty too.

[tact]

Hey is this issue still floating around and pestering other owners?

I recently had to replace three intercooler hoses and a bracket in my 2014MY 110. Apparently not the same cause as the recall...but mysteriously the same parts. I've been assured that its not related to the Q360v2 recall, oh and damn...just out of warranty too.

Some of the members here have bought access to Topix.... (LR online service/support site)... PM your VIN to a member with access that you trust and they can see if the recall is outstanding or done.

[filcar]

Some of the members here have bought access to Topix.... (LR online service/support site)... PM your VIN to a member with access that you trust and they can see if the recall is outstanding or done.

Access to Topix is free to check outstanding actions for your vehicle, you have to pay for some documents.

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